There are smaller and pre-fab designs anon
Most important thing I feel are:
* basement
* east-west facing
* insulation
* you're comfortable with the size, it's right for what you want to do
if the land is out in the woods and middle of nowhere - in the North East, Great Lakes, Appalachia, Pacific Northwest - how expensive can that be?
What is the permit costs?
People fail to realize it all depends on the land. Prime hunting land with good sets of logging trees is expensive as frick even in the middle of nowhere. Now if you get you some of that swampland that is more swamp than land you can get that shit cheap even in the best of spots. Put a little cabin on some 8x8's and line it with some fencing foam that b***h will stick around even in the up and down weather of places like Minnesota or North Dakota.
My parents just gave me 5 acres in the mountains of Arizona. I have no idea what I’ll do with it prob keep it and eventually sell it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
look at mister fricking money bags here choking on his silver spoon
gets kino land in this sort of environment and figures he'll just sell it
1 year ago
Anonymous
Get an appraiser of some kind out there just to know what you're working with; if they haven't done that yet. Forgot the official name for them, but the one we had come to our property did soil samples and checked the ground water and all that jazz. Found out the spot we wanted to build had the ground water too close to the surface so we couldn't legally put a septic in. Also said something about an area that had unnatural pockets of granite as if someone way back in the day mined for it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
could you dig the granit up and use it for building your place?
>Power and running water are optional.
how hard would it be to rig up some sort of generator type system from that pickup, one that doesn't permanently unmake it a car? I know nothing about electrical engineering, anon, be kind. Is it just a question of hooking up some jumper cables to the battery and attaching them to some sort of similar device inside the shed?
>Power and running water are optional.
how hard would it be to rig up some sort of generator type system from that pickup, one that doesn't permanently unmake it a car? I know nothing about electrical engineering, anon, be kind. Is it just a question of hooking up some jumper cables to the battery and attaching them to some sort of similar device inside the shed?
just get a Honda 1000 or 2000 watt generator. You'll waste tons of gas using a car, and burn up alternators.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Or just don't bother with a generator. A little generator isn't going to do much on the grand scheme of things. Gas turns bad quicker than people think. Should rather set up means to charge stuff and keep a light on from other sources.
1 year ago
Anonymous
wood gasifier
>Power and running water are optional.
how hard would it be to rig up some sort of generator type system from that pickup, one that doesn't permanently unmake it a car? I know nothing about electrical engineering, anon, be kind. Is it just a question of hooking up some jumper cables to the battery and attaching them to some sort of similar device inside the shed?
you can get a wood gasifier for a car that can also double as an electrical generator
That's someones luxury mountain retreat.
Shacks inna woods be are typically more humble and remote. Power and running water are optional.
https://i.imgur.com/fk6mDM9.jpg
There are smaller and pre-fab designs anon
Most important thing I feel are:
* basement
* east-west facing
* insulation
* you're comfortable with the size, it's right for what you want to do
>5 acres of land in a remote area
$30,000 >Prefab cabin
$50,000 >Septic Tank and well and solar setup
$20,000
That’s $100,000. Even low wage Americans can afford a $100,000 mortgage. It would likely be cheaper than your rent.
>might as well get an RV or camper to stay in temporarily while you build something proper
Not that anon but that is what I did.
Bought 50 acres in the woods, bought a travel trailer and been in it for a year. Doing site prep this spring/summer and doing the build next year.
Why not? Rural properties and homes are far less pricey than urban houses and apartments. Unless you are looking to build a massive castle, rural homes are cheap.
Yeah natural barriers like bushes, roses, poison ivy could be handy to close off areas
By picketing at a distance. If you're found you're fricked. Basic stealth shit like dogs (multiples) because no one gets past dogs without killing them.
Don't fortify the house, use it as bait and fortify positions to kill whoever tries the house. The house is bait. If SHTF leave it as storage. Most people are stupid and you can claymore the entrance areas.
Fantasies are a weakness. Plan for real war.
But when people notice that guard dogs are out in the middle of the woods and are well looked after and aren't starving or feral wont that raise suspicions?
Also it was common in Rome and medieval times to not only have guard dogs but also guard geese too. Very territorial and will honk at strangers alerting you, and even attack strangers.
>Also it was common in Rome and medieval times to not only have guard dogs but also guard geese too. Very territorial and will honk at strangers alerting you, and even attack strangers.
yes, but geese are motherfrickers and impossible to get along with. who would stand for that nonsense
When I was 3, the geese that lived on our property with us, in the pond in our back yard, attacked me. Our collie came to the rescue. Doggos for the win
blackberries are invasive in some areas, provide nutritional food, and can grow thick with thorns
Its obviously not going to dissuade anybody determined, but it is a reasonable deterrent
It will tell them that someone is in the area, which if they were heading to a house in the woods they already assumed. Then they have to reconsider, make a plan, abort, or assault the bait position after giving you early warning (thus giving you the initiative).
>Barking/tripwire alert/other early warning happens in certain sector >get cheap drone in the air and perform reconnaissance from concealed position >assess threat and conduct hasty ambush on your terms utilizing effective concealment methods or leave if the threat is too great
Versus:
>threat sneaks up on house from literally any direction >dog starts barking when the threat is at the door >limits your options to fortification only which is a weak position because you can be shot, burned, or smoked out from anywhere nearby without having the ability to respond
By picketing at a distance. If you're found you're fricked. Basic stealth shit like dogs (multiples) because no one gets past dogs without killing them.
Don't fortify the house, use it as bait and fortify positions to kill whoever tries the house. The house is bait. If SHTF leave it as storage. Most people are stupid and you can claymore the entrance areas.
From your pic? Keep the log walls, but add external stone walls, then add another two layers both inside and outside made of this stuff >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub
unironically. Extra thick of course. Rifle bullets go through logs like a knife through butter, while in Afghanistan thick walls made of straw, clay, sand, and manure, were often unharmed by .50 cal and required heavier calibers or rockets to be breached. Yes your walls will end up being 3 feet thick but that's what you need to be really protected against a hail of bullets from small arms. And from fire too. No windows either, rather arrow slits or loopholes. However protecting the roof the same way may become a headache quite fast.
This reminds me of Henry Fords chief of security/head strike breaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bennett
He had a "cabin" made to look like it was made of logs which were actually reinforced concrete, it had an escape tunnel, and snipers nest
Holy based >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bennett#Bennett's_lodge >The lodge has many custom features. Hidden behind a hinged bookcase in the study is a secret passageway which leads to the dock. Every step of the staircase in the passageway is a different height from the others to make tripping more likely. Bennett would practice running down the steps to memorize their spacing in order to give him an advantage if pursued. One hidden room had access to a central point in the ventilation system, where conversations from multiple rooms could be clearly overheard. >The roof of the building featured a guard station parapet at one end, complete with a fireplace to keep Bennett's men warm while on 24-hour armed watch when Bennett was at the lodge in colder months. Bennett had a private airfield with an airplane at the other end of Lost Lake. In the event of an attack, Bennett could take the secret passageway, emerge by the dock, take a boat across the lake, and escape by airplane. An attack never came. >The lodge and property were purchased in 1964 by the Boy Scouts of America, Clinton Valley Council. The property was developed for the Lost Lake Scout Reservation. The lodge was abandoned after the reservation was closed. Much of the furniture remains, but the pool has fallen into disrepair. Trees have been planted on the airfield. >Harry Bennett had a similar outpost on the north side of Geddes Road west of Prospect Road about 3,000 feet (910 m) from his estate near Ypsilanti. It was a concrete cabin constructed to look like a log cabin. A hidden door disguised as a book shelf rotated to reveal access to an upper level hide designed to be a look out. This was behind the fireplace and lead to a place with gun ports for defense. Near this cabin was an underground bunker, including a separate building with a Ford flathead V8 engine acting as a generator to make the property self sustaining.
I've thought about going full schizo and someday getting a house with steel inserts in between the walls with the exception of some portholes behind conveniently place pictures
>Earthquake...die.
ICF construction is extremely resilient to earthquakes if built to the right codes. >Get shot at...die.
Not unless they're shooting at me with a .50 cal. The concrete core for my house is 8''.
It did way back then when it was built you dumb Black person. Of course it doesn't look like logs after nearly 80+ years of wear and having no maintenance you dumb homosexual.
Frick yee even after all these years it's still there. That is the glory of a good ditch. Yall have no hope if you're not digging good ditches. Good ditches and some fence is all you need.
If you want it to be essentially a normal house with a little extra security >Reinforced doors, doorframe, and locks >Shatter-proof security film on the windows >CCTV cameras (hard-wired) >dogs
>How?
Door Devil or some other reinforced strike plate system is the simplest. Beyond that you've got to work on the construction surrounding the door. >What is this film?
Google security film bro. I've got the 3m stuff but I assume there's other companies that make it too.
Just remember to have it installed properly, the film has to be securely fixed to the window frame or else the perp can just pull the whole pane free once they've shattered the glass. >Would double or triple glaze do the same?
No.
Bouncing Betty mines in the tree line surrounding the property, mortars pre sighted in a killzone, mercs on standby, qrf ready to fast rope in, goons hold up at all breach points, sensitive data ready to be downloaded but my zetabites of anime porn make the download very slow so that more mercs can swarm the area and gas the intruders. More explosives as they try to make their escape. I've also got friends in the upper echelons of SOCOM. My guy on the inside will blast whoever survives my onslaught. I'll be on the others side of the globe doing.... stuff....
There’s gonna be starving Black folk crawling around the woods with guns if SHTF I would just dig a hole and hide with some food until they all died, not be tied down to one location
NOTES ON TACTICAL RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE
by Jeff Cooper
It is easy to deplore the degeneration of our social order, difficult as it may be to explain it. But it is not impossible to do something about it. Before doing so, however, one must admit that it exists. The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent; but, as with death, these facts are hard to accept.
Since most people respond to hypothetical peril with the assumption that it will not come to them, the first step in adjusting to our present social situation is the hard, clear, unflinching understanding that it can indeed come to us—personally. It is amazing to read of people who did not choose to believe this until after they had been victimized. They all knew that burglary, robbery, assault, and murder were not only possible but frequent, but they took no precautions because they simply would not admit that they, themselves, could be the victims.
Once you accept the fact that you actually may be the next target—today—you have taken the first great step toward your own physical security. Having made this simple, if difficult, admission, you can never afterward be surprised, and surprise is the greatest single element in tactics—offensive or defensive.
Defense of your person is your first concern, and it is a very elaborate study to which we have given a great deal of professional attention over the years, but let us turn for the moment to the defense of your home. Street crime is certainly horrific, and it is our national shame that we cannot maintain safe streets in our big cities, but more shocking yet is the thought that we cannot even go home, shut out the street, and relax. The goblins follow us even there. Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
Defense of your home may probably be stated better as defense in your home, for saving your life is the main concern, whether on the street or home in bed. There are things that can be done to avert burglary in your absence, but they are only effective if they are incorporated into the house as it is being built, and they are dauntingly expensive. To build a house that cannot be broken into is to build a fort, and even then it can be defeated if the intruder has the time and the wit. (The pyramids were designed to be burglar-proof, by kings who commanded unlimited wealth and labor. The tomb robbers broke into them almost as soon as the funeral flowers wilted.)
But we can make certain arrangements to insure that our homes are a good deal more secure when we are in them, and I think we should.
In a recent visit to Southern California we were depressed to note the efforts made by householders to harden their homes; first because this was necessary, and second because the systems employed did not seem very effective.
To see iron bars and barbed wire around the houses in which we grew up without even door locks is sadder than to see a city smashed by war, but still worse is to see good people relying on completely passive structures which can never succeed against an evil will. We saw great, electrically operated gates which could be climbed by any active schoolboy. We saw heavy locks on doors which could be burst open at the hinges. We saw guard dogs which could be bribed with doped hamburger. We saw nothing that was specifically designed to enable the homeowner to counterattack. Evidently the doctrine is that one covers up, keeps his head down, and calls the police.
Let us agree on one major point right here. The police cannot protect you in your home. If goblins break in upon you the police should be called—as soon as you get around to it—in order to write our reports and clean up the mess. But the goblins are your problem. Bear that always in mind.
Several features in a house can help you defend it. Some must be built in as the house goes up, but others may be added to structures already completed. In most cases they need be neither unsightly nor inconvenient.
Point One:
When you are asleep you are helpless. Few things can be more nightmarish than to open a drowsy eye to see a shadowy figure standing over you in the gloom. This need never happen.
Bedroom windows must be ironed, obviously in such a way as to permit their opening from the inside in case of fire.
(A prominent United States senator must live out his life with the memory of his adolescent daughter who was murdered in her bedroom by a monster who simply kicked open the French windows—because he, the senator, had not protected his own child.)
But just the windows are not enough. There must be a strong barrier between the sleeping quarters and the rest of the house. A bolted door will do (dead bolt, not a pickable latch), but an iron grill is better because you can see through it—and shoot through it.
No barrier is impenetrable, but if it causes a racket if attacked it will awaken you, and that is all you need. If you are awake, armed, and aware, you cannot be defeated by any predator, human or otherwise. Clearly the iron grill must be fastened in such a way that it cannot be unfastened by stealth. Use your imagination here.
Point Two:
Sleeping quarter protection can usually be installed in a ready-made house, but door arrangement is another matter. You must be able to see who is at the door without exposing yourself. Peep holes are better than nothing, but essentially all doors—front, back, and side—should be recessed in such a way that anyone seeking entrance may be viewed in full, from the side or preferably from behind. When a visitor knocks on your door he should be, in effect, surrounded by your house, aware that he is in view of the people inside from several angles. Even if he intends a coup-de-main he will be at such a tactical disadvantage that he may well chicken out.
Observation must include the capability to fire, so the observation ports must be unscreened, narrow, and openable with one motion. Several sorts of slit windows made for trailers serve this purpose very well if set vertically.
A proof door is an expensive luxury but it does promote sound sleep. Our lower-deck door, which is farthest from our bedroom and therefore hardest for us to hear, is a plywood sandwich with an armored filling, and fastened from the inside with cross-bars rather than a latch. It would be quieter to come through the grouted block wall.
Point Three:
Any house which is properly designed for the Age of Aquarius must permit its perimeter to be visible from inside it. This is the "Vauban Principle," and you must start from scratch to achieve it completely, but even if stuck with a blind rectangle, a single added bastion on one corner will give you coverage of two of four walls, and two diagonally placed bastions will cover all but their own backsides.
Clearly nothing is perfect. Existing structures may be all but impossible to harden, and terrain will often render specific protective features unnecessary, but this is where architectural ingenuity becomes important. (Remember Castle Dracula, protected by frowning battlements on three sides but light and airy on the fourth, which overlooked a thousand-foot precipice?)
Point Four:
Roman patricians, when in town, dwelt in houses designed for an urban jungle no less savage than our own. Outside walls, right on the property line and generally rectangular in plan, were proof against anything but a ram and pierced by very narrow doors. The open living space was inside. This plan was borrowed by the Spaniards and exported to the New World as the patio. This design has much to offer today, where building codes permit. With one side of the quadrangle serving as a garage, and bastions at the four corners, it offers a hard carapace to the outside while providing as large an interior garden as space permits.
Point Five:
No inanimate structure or device can provide physical security in and of itself. Furthermore, no fortress nor sconce can withstand intelligent attack by determined besiegers. What tomorrow's house can offer, however, is comfortable living space which is hard enough to daunt the casual savage and, in addition, will permit the inhabitants to sleep secure in the knowledge that any prospective intruders must (1) make enough noise to alert the defense, and (2) be placed at a serious tactical disadvantage.
Naturally it is desirable for all walls to be relatively proof against small arms fire—especially those which include observation ports. This is not as critical as might first appear, however, since the criminal cannot undertake a siege and must count upon surprise to gain his objectives. You can prevent this by correct observation techniques coupled with a manifest willing- ness to use lethal force against him. Passive defense can succeed only if the cops are within earshot—and not always then.
For those who wish to build a strongpoint in the boon- docks—as opposed to a house in which to spend extended periods in comfort—the Army Department has a nifty field manual on the subject. This is FM 5-15, Field Fortifications. It is not classified.
It should be unnecessary to point out that the shield is useless without the sword, and that neither is of value with- out the brain. Lincoln and Trotsky and Castillo and Sharon Tate and the LaBiancas and General Dozier and the victims of the Boston Strangler could not have been helped by architecture. Their killers were allowed inside. A stranger at your door must be considered a possible target until proven otherwise. And this is not fear, much less the popularly misused term "paranoia." This is intelligent caution. The great leopard of Rudraprayag had no "fear" of people. He was able to terrorize his district for eight years because he was very, very careful. In today's savage world we need not be afraid, but we do need to be careful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anyone fortifying their home like an actual bunker is planning on making a stand against criminals wearing uniforms.
>degeneration of our social order
What does this mean >The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent
Does this refer to petty crime or corporate greed poisoning communities with untreated runoff and leaking pipelines and poorly maintained freight trains, injuring workers with unsafe workplaces, collapsing banks with risking lending? >Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
lolwut
When was this written
>on /k/ >doesn’t know who Jeff Cooper is >gay leftist >posts despite all this
The quality of this board has never been lower. Never post again, have a nice day, etc etc
>if you're concerned about banks making risky investments and then running to the government for protection, environmental catastrophes, and workplace safety you're a gay leftist
>degeneration of our social order
What does this mean >The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent
Does this refer to petty crime or corporate greed poisoning communities with untreated runoff and leaking pipelines and poorly maintained freight trains, injuring workers with unsafe workplaces, collapsing banks with risking lending? >Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
lolwut
When was this written
Easy way to prove you belong here just post your gun.
Defense of your home may probably be stated better as defense in your home, for saving your life is the main concern, whether on the street or home in bed. There are things that can be done to avert burglary in your absence, but they are only effective if they are incorporated into the house as it is being built, and they are dauntingly expensive. To build a house that cannot be broken into is to build a fort, and even then it can be defeated if the intruder has the time and the wit. (The pyramids were designed to be burglar-proof, by kings who commanded unlimited wealth and labor. The tomb robbers broke into them almost as soon as the funeral flowers wilted.)
But we can make certain arrangements to insure that our homes are a good deal more secure when we are in them, and I think we should.
In a recent visit to Southern California we were depressed to note the efforts made by householders to harden their homes; first because this was necessary, and second because the systems employed did not seem very effective.
To see iron bars and barbed wire around the houses in which we grew up without even door locks is sadder than to see a city smashed by war, but still worse is to see good people relying on completely passive structures which can never succeed against an evil will. We saw great, electrically operated gates which could be climbed by any active schoolboy. We saw heavy locks on doors which could be burst open at the hinges. We saw guard dogs which could be bribed with doped hamburger. We saw nothing that was specifically designed to enable the homeowner to counterattack. Evidently the doctrine is that one covers up, keeps his head down, and calls the police.
Let us agree on one major point right here. The police cannot protect you in your home. If goblins break in upon you the police should be called—as soon as you get around to it—in order to write our reports and clean up the mess. But the goblins are your problem. Bear that always in mind.
Several features in a house can help you defend it. Some must be built in as the house goes up, but others may be added to structures already completed. In most cases they need be neither unsightly nor inconvenient.
Point One:
When you are asleep you are helpless. Few things can be more nightmarish than to open a drowsy eye to see a shadowy figure standing over you in the gloom. This need never happen.
Bedroom windows must be ironed, obviously in such a way as to permit their opening from the inside in case of fire.
(A prominent United States senator must live out his life with the memory of his adolescent daughter who was murdered in her bedroom by a monster who simply kicked open the French windows—because he, the senator, had not protected his own child.)
But just the windows are not enough. There must be a strong barrier between the sleeping quarters and the rest of the house. A bolted door will do (dead bolt, not a pickable latch), but an iron grill is better because you can see through it—and shoot through it.
No barrier is impenetrable, but if it causes a racket if attacked it will awaken you, and that is all you need. If you are awake, armed, and aware, you cannot be defeated by any predator, human or otherwise. Clearly the iron grill must be fastened in such a way that it cannot be unfastened by stealth. Use your imagination here.
>degeneration of our social order
What does this mean >The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent
Does this refer to petty crime or corporate greed poisoning communities with untreated runoff and leaking pipelines and poorly maintained freight trains, injuring workers with unsafe workplaces, collapsing banks with risking lending? >Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
lolwut
When was this written
https://i.imgur.com/20ms3au.jpg
Point Two:
Sleeping quarter protection can usually be installed in a ready-made house, but door arrangement is another matter. You must be able to see who is at the door without exposing yourself. Peep holes are better than nothing, but essentially all doors—front, back, and side—should be recessed in such a way that anyone seeking entrance may be viewed in full, from the side or preferably from behind. When a visitor knocks on your door he should be, in effect, surrounded by your house, aware that he is in view of the people inside from several angles. Even if he intends a coup-de-main he will be at such a tactical disadvantage that he may well chicken out.
Observation must include the capability to fire, so the observation ports must be unscreened, narrow, and openable with one motion. Several sorts of slit windows made for trailers serve this purpose very well if set vertically.
A proof door is an expensive luxury but it does promote sound sleep. Our lower-deck door, which is farthest from our bedroom and therefore hardest for us to hear, is a plywood sandwich with an armored filling, and fastened from the inside with cross-bars rather than a latch. It would be quieter to come through the grouted block wall.
Point Three:
Any house which is properly designed for the Age of Aquarius must permit its perimeter to be visible from inside it. This is the "Vauban Principle," and you must start from scratch to achieve it completely, but even if stuck with a blind rectangle, a single added bastion on one corner will give you coverage of two of four walls, and two diagonally placed bastions will cover all but their own backsides.
https://i.imgur.com/PRpuJx8.jpg
Clearly nothing is perfect. Existing structures may be all but impossible to harden, and terrain will often render specific protective features unnecessary, but this is where architectural ingenuity becomes important. (Remember Castle Dracula, protected by frowning battlements on three sides but light and airy on the fourth, which overlooked a thousand-foot precipice?)
Point Four:
Roman patricians, when in town, dwelt in houses designed for an urban jungle no less savage than our own. Outside walls, right on the property line and generally rectangular in plan, were proof against anything but a ram and pierced by very narrow doors. The open living space was inside. This plan was borrowed by the Spaniards and exported to the New World as the patio. This design has much to offer today, where building codes permit. With one side of the quadrangle serving as a garage, and bastions at the four corners, it offers a hard carapace to the outside while providing as large an interior garden as space permits.
Point Five:
No inanimate structure or device can provide physical security in and of itself. Furthermore, no fortress nor sconce can withstand intelligent attack by determined besiegers. What tomorrow's house can offer, however, is comfortable living space which is hard enough to daunt the casual savage and, in addition, will permit the inhabitants to sleep secure in the knowledge that any prospective intruders must (1) make enough noise to alert the defense, and (2) be placed at a serious tactical disadvantage.
>TLDR: dont live in the city or if you do, be wealthy enough to afford your own kevlar walled mansion with autistic gunports, bedroom blast doors and crew of bucellarii to stand on watch with crossed pila, when youre busy jerking off to Les Baer`s Custom 1911 ads in Soldier of Fortune magazine.
Don't.
Fortification is obvious, and tells the passerby something valuable must be inside.
All it does is invite trouble.
The best defense is inconspicuousness. If it looks like a shithole, no one will care to investigate it. That is safer than anything you could do to affordably fortify a structure.
>curtains
So snipers can't kill your wife while she's holding your babby. >chicken wire or rebar over window
So grenades, molotovs and flashbangs can't be tossed in. >barred doors and windows on the ground floor
So it can't be kicked in like a crackhead's apartment. >Sprinkler on outskirts of house
Distracts people trying to kill you and morons fires. >security cameras
Easily disabled, but gives you a decent warning. >myriad of mislabeled chemicals
Makes them call in the bombsquad or CBRN guys to discern whether it is safe to continue. >dig a basement and escape tunnel 200 yards away from house
There's no greater motivator than a chance at survival.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I'll take a compliment if it is given. Honestly haven't been paying attention to the Ukraine meta, I imagine tossed grenades and flashbangs are blocked by simple kinetic means, but a rocket, artillery shell or noob tube would easily defeat it.
cameras. the most important thing is reliable cameras with motion detection, which warn you of any intruders. the best defense is seeing them coming.
This.
motion detection innawoods seems like you'd be getting false alarms every time an animal walked by
My wife gets false alarms every day, because alley cats love to shit in my yard. She gets to fawn over the cute creatures and as a result will also immediately alert me when they're not 4 legged creatures.
If a squad is fighting a BMP or other vehicle they will save their RPGs or tubes. I assume a bug in cabin isn't vs some military force cause you'd be fricked in any scenario then.
Sandbags and sheet metal around the windows, leaving gun slots, clear scrub occluding line of sight, set up trail cameras in the surrounding area, and keep fire buckets of sand and extinguishers.
Anyone suggesting mines, traps, and ditches are idiots. There's a reason they stopped using that shit around spec ops camps in Vietnam. Wildlife triggering mines, the traps making it difficult for maintenance crews (imagine getting your foot stuck because you forgot about it when out to get some firewood), and ditches provided cover for attackers. Not to mention actually having to spend time checking the mines, traps, ditches, and doing maintenance on them. Every second wasted on that is another second out in the open.
>high ground >dig >build >fill holes
The cabin will be entirely underground inside a hill covered in trees. Entrances will have camouflaged wooden doors, with steel security doors behind them. The upper floor will have loopholes strategically cut into boulders on the hillside, giving a clear shot at the surrounding area. Exhaust pipes for burners and generators will be hidden in coppices, and each one will have internal grating so you can't just drop a grenade down them.
The hidden exhaust pipes allow air to circulate. On a really damp day you can even light the burners at one end and leave the other cold, so the convection gets a through-draft going. It's built into high ground, so water won't accumulate around it. In a worst case scenario you could use your generator to power a dehumidifier, but that shouldn't be needed too often.
There are whole books out there about living partially or wholly underground in sunk dwellings. This isn't hard to read up on. Indeed, everyone should.
Not that anon but..
https://undergroundhousing.com/
The advantages (especially for off grid self sufficient types) are numerous.
Think about going from needing 6 cord firewood to make it through the winter vs 1 cord.
Who the frick needs six cord unless you live above the Arctic Circle? I got by until the end of February with two, and only ordered a third because of the crazy weather, and I expect to have most of it left over for next year.
1 year ago
Anonymous
People in poorly insulated or large houses.
I know several people in Michigan who go through more than 5 cord a winter, one guy up in Newberry went through 8.
>will have internal grating so you can't just drop a grenade down them.
Nothing an AN-M14 down ventilation shafts or pumping phosgene into them can't take care of.
Heat is for nigs. If you don't live somewhere you can die of cold, you're not human.
Based northerner. Others merely adopted the cold. We were born into it, molded by it.
Good point, they should have a steel funnel at the top so grenades bounce back up. There's not much you can do about gas except keep a mask and a good stock of filters in the cabin.
This looks so damn comfy. I need a hobbit hole with a nice fireplace inside.
If you don't go underground, you can still keep your house MUCH warmer in the winter by building into the southern slope of a hill or mountainside. For us northern hemisphere people that is.
>cameras. the most important thing is reliable cameras with motion detection, which warn you of any intruders. the best defense is seeing them coming.
An alternative to cameras if you can't use them for some reason (say if you don't have power) are those spring-loaded tripwires that fit 12g shells. I've got a few that I plan to run along the fence line if shtf, or around approaches to my camp site if I'm forced to go innatent.
Obviously cameras are the better option if you can.
I'm on the top of a mountain, and there is only one road that comes up here. I could take the small bridges out that cross over the drainage to keep vehicles from coming up. If anyone wants to make the climb, so be it. Its grueling and rocky. By the time they get to the top, the dogs will be on them, and my trusty lever action in 45-70 will do the rest
I have a garden, a greenhouse, fruit trees, and a coop for my chickens. There is also a spring that I get water from, and a small pond further down the mountain that has fish in it. If I'm staying put for a long time, I'll probably bring some food too >What sort of dogs?
I have two Australian shepherds.
I have a garden, a greenhouse, fruit trees, and a coop for my chickens. There is also a spring that I get water from, and a small pond further down the mountain that has fish in it. If I'm staying put for a long time, I'll probably bring some food too >What sort of dogs?
I have two Australian shepherds.
>What is your plan for food and water once you take out the bridges?
Given that he knows the drainage ditches are there he could easily store materials to improvise a bridge should he need to whereas outsiders won't know to bring such materials with them unless they've scouted the area in advance.
I have a garden, a greenhouse, fruit trees, and a coop for my chickens. There is also a spring that I get water from, and a small pond further down the mountain that has fish in it. If I'm staying put for a long time, I'll probably bring some food too >What sort of dogs?
I have two Australian shepherds.
Loss of visibility is really a double-edged sword though. Sure, no one can snipe you while you're tending the chickens but on the other hand you can't see people on the approach.
Can americans really build these cabins and just leave them in the woods? Nobody will come and rob it, no hobo will break into it and live there, no teens wanting to find a place to party?
Yes. Its private property and property rights are a staple of the United States. Trying to break into a rural American cabin/house is a dangerous thing to do. Of course it can happen but it’s unusual and one should expect to get shot.
>Record cabin for a few days >No lights, no cars, no movement >Everything inside is free and there is no way to track you down
Literally the only thing that protects from this in eu is to know locals well (and be a perfect cake baking, snow shoveling neighbourgh) or having someone checking out the cabin every few days + live camera feed on mobile
Yeah here in the US you just stick an alarm on your cabin and if someone breaks in your neighbor comes over and kills them.
Shoot, shovel, and shut up.
>bomb knocks out house >debris piled on top of the entrance/exit hatch >3,000lbs of rubble weighing down on it >can't open hatch >survive bomb strike >only to become prisoners of your own making >eventually resort to eating your own family before starving to death
I will never be able to afford a cabin like this.
There are smaller and pre-fab designs anon
Most important thing I feel are:
* basement
* east-west facing
* insulation
* you're comfortable with the size, it's right for what you want to do
It's not the cabin.
It's the land required. And the permit to build. The actual cabin is the least expensive thing of the project
if the land is out in the woods and middle of nowhere - in the North East, Great Lakes, Appalachia, Pacific Northwest - how expensive can that be?
What is the permit costs?
People fail to realize it all depends on the land. Prime hunting land with good sets of logging trees is expensive as frick even in the middle of nowhere. Now if you get you some of that swampland that is more swamp than land you can get that shit cheap even in the best of spots. Put a little cabin on some 8x8's and line it with some fencing foam that b***h will stick around even in the up and down weather of places like Minnesota or North Dakota.
My parents just gave me 5 acres in the mountains of Arizona. I have no idea what I’ll do with it prob keep it and eventually sell it.
look at mister fricking money bags here choking on his silver spoon
gets kino land in this sort of environment and figures he'll just sell it
Get an appraiser of some kind out there just to know what you're working with; if they haven't done that yet. Forgot the official name for them, but the one we had come to our property did soil samples and checked the ground water and all that jazz. Found out the spot we wanted to build had the ground water too close to the surface so we couldn't legally put a septic in. Also said something about an area that had unnatural pockets of granite as if someone way back in the day mined for it.
could you dig the granit up and use it for building your place?
Wait, why east-west facing, anon?
Catch maximum sunlight during winter to help light and warm, and block it in summer
That's someones luxury mountain retreat.
Shacks inna woods be are typically more humble and remote. Power and running water are optional.
>Power and running water are optional.
how hard would it be to rig up some sort of generator type system from that pickup, one that doesn't permanently unmake it a car? I know nothing about electrical engineering, anon, be kind. Is it just a question of hooking up some jumper cables to the battery and attaching them to some sort of similar device inside the shed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
interesting. I would be concerned about carbon monoxide though.
put it outside
just get a Honda 1000 or 2000 watt generator. You'll waste tons of gas using a car, and burn up alternators.
Or just don't bother with a generator. A little generator isn't going to do much on the grand scheme of things. Gas turns bad quicker than people think. Should rather set up means to charge stuff and keep a light on from other sources.
wood gasifier
you can get a wood gasifier for a car that can also double as an electrical generator
no one will bother you if they think you're gonna skin them and eat their flesh, also junkyard dogs and trail cams
That cost 5k at most to build
>5 acres of land in a remote area
$30,000
>Prefab cabin
$50,000
>Septic Tank and well and solar setup
$20,000
That’s $100,000. Even low wage Americans can afford a $100,000 mortgage. It would likely be cheaper than your rent.
>prefab
no basement and thin walls with no insulation
might as well get an RV or camper to stay in temporarily while you build something proper
>might as well get an RV or camper to stay in temporarily while you build something proper
Not that anon but that is what I did.
Bought 50 acres in the woods, bought a travel trailer and been in it for a year. Doing site prep this spring/summer and doing the build next year.
Never say never.
Work.
Save.
Cabins are cheap you moron unless you want some 6k square ft monstrosity
Why not? Rural properties and homes are far less pricey than urban houses and apartments. Unless you are looking to build a massive castle, rural homes are cheap.
for me it's 2. and thorny bushes around the building.
Yeah natural barriers like bushes, roses, poison ivy could be handy to close off areas
But when people notice that guard dogs are out in the middle of the woods and are well looked after and aren't starving or feral wont that raise suspicions?
Also it was common in Rome and medieval times to not only have guard dogs but also guard geese too. Very territorial and will honk at strangers alerting you, and even attack strangers.
>Also it was common in Rome and medieval times to not only have guard dogs but also guard geese too. Very territorial and will honk at strangers alerting you, and even attack strangers.
yes, but geese are motherfrickers and impossible to get along with. who would stand for that nonsense
get them when they are goslings so they imprint on you
When I was 3, the geese that lived on our property with us, in the pond in our back yard, attacked me. Our collie came to the rescue. Doggos for the win
blackberries are invasive in some areas, provide nutritional food, and can grow thick with thorns
Its obviously not going to dissuade anybody determined, but it is a reasonable deterrent
>raise suspicions
It will tell them that someone is in the area, which if they were heading to a house in the woods they already assumed. Then they have to reconsider, make a plan, abort, or assault the bait position after giving you early warning (thus giving you the initiative).
>Barking/tripwire alert/other early warning happens in certain sector
>get cheap drone in the air and perform reconnaissance from concealed position
>assess threat and conduct hasty ambush on your terms utilizing effective concealment methods or leave if the threat is too great
Versus:
>threat sneaks up on house from literally any direction
>dog starts barking when the threat is at the door
>limits your options to fortification only which is a weak position because you can be shot, burned, or smoked out from anywhere nearby without having the ability to respond
How is barely talking to you a downside? Winter cabin is 3 positives
It's bad because she's not a sweaty brown catgirl
Heat is for nigs. If you don't live somewhere you can die of cold, you're not human.
>most preferred gun is webley
>most preferred location is winter cabin
>most preferred girl design is the catgirl
fug
By picketing at a distance. If you're found you're fricked. Basic stealth shit like dogs (multiples) because no one gets past dogs without killing them.
Don't fortify the house, use it as bait and fortify positions to kill whoever tries the house. The house is bait. If SHTF leave it as storage. Most people are stupid and you can claymore the entrance areas.
Fantasies are a weakness. Plan for real war.
slap some ERA on the logs and call it good
Thicc fences and good ditches. The same thing that has worked for thousands of years.
From your pic? Keep the log walls, but add external stone walls, then add another two layers both inside and outside made of this stuff
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub
unironically. Extra thick of course. Rifle bullets go through logs like a knife through butter, while in Afghanistan thick walls made of straw, clay, sand, and manure, were often unharmed by .50 cal and required heavier calibers or rockets to be breached. Yes your walls will end up being 3 feet thick but that's what you need to be really protected against a hail of bullets from small arms. And from fire too. No windows either, rather arrow slits or loopholes. However protecting the roof the same way may become a headache quite fast.
This reminds me of Henry Fords chief of security/head strike breaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bennett
He had a "cabin" made to look like it was made of logs which were actually reinforced concrete, it had an escape tunnel, and snipers nest
Holy based
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bennett#Bennett's_lodge
>The lodge has many custom features. Hidden behind a hinged bookcase in the study is a secret passageway which leads to the dock. Every step of the staircase in the passageway is a different height from the others to make tripping more likely. Bennett would practice running down the steps to memorize their spacing in order to give him an advantage if pursued. One hidden room had access to a central point in the ventilation system, where conversations from multiple rooms could be clearly overheard.
>The roof of the building featured a guard station parapet at one end, complete with a fireplace to keep Bennett's men warm while on 24-hour armed watch when Bennett was at the lodge in colder months. Bennett had a private airfield with an airplane at the other end of Lost Lake. In the event of an attack, Bennett could take the secret passageway, emerge by the dock, take a boat across the lake, and escape by airplane. An attack never came.
>The lodge and property were purchased in 1964 by the Boy Scouts of America, Clinton Valley Council. The property was developed for the Lost Lake Scout Reservation. The lodge was abandoned after the reservation was closed. Much of the furniture remains, but the pool has fallen into disrepair. Trees have been planted on the airfield.
>Harry Bennett had a similar outpost on the north side of Geddes Road west of Prospect Road about 3,000 feet (910 m) from his estate near Ypsilanti. It was a concrete cabin constructed to look like a log cabin. A hidden door disguised as a book shelf rotated to reveal access to an upper level hide designed to be a look out. This was behind the fireplace and lead to a place with gun ports for defense. Near this cabin was an underground bunker, including a separate building with a Ford flathead V8 engine acting as a generator to make the property self sustaining.
I've thought about going full schizo and someday getting a house with steel inserts in between the walls with the exception of some portholes behind conveniently place pictures
Just build your house out of concrete bro
Earthquake...die.
Get shot at...die.
>Earthquake...die.
ICF construction is extremely resilient to earthquakes if built to the right codes.
>Get shot at...die.
Not unless they're shooting at me with a .50 cal. The concrete core for my house is 8''.
ummm... yeeah... that totally looks like logs, anon...
It did way back then when it was built you dumb Black person. Of course it doesn't look like logs after nearly 80+ years of wear and having no maintenance you dumb homosexual.
Build on hill top
then excavate out
Yee those are some good ditches.
Frick yee even after all these years it's still there. That is the glory of a good ditch. Yall have no hope if you're not digging good ditches. Good ditches and some fence is all you need.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offa%27s_Dyke
dem ditches.
hmmmmmmmmmm
>not having a tunnel network and live underground
The israelites fear the underground dweller
If you want it to be essentially a normal house with a little extra security
>Reinforced doors, doorframe, and locks
>Shatter-proof security film on the windows
>CCTV cameras (hard-wired)
>dogs
doors, doorframe, and locks
How?
-proof security film on the windows
What is this film?
Would double or triple glaze do the same?
>How?
Door Devil or some other reinforced strike plate system is the simplest. Beyond that you've got to work on the construction surrounding the door.
>What is this film?
Google security film bro. I've got the 3m stuff but I assume there's other companies that make it too.
Just remember to have it installed properly, the film has to be securely fixed to the window frame or else the perp can just pull the whole pane free once they've shattered the glass.
>Would double or triple glaze do the same?
No.
It’s a polycarbonate. Been in use in military buildings in N. Ireland for decades, it works.
Bouncing Betty mines in the tree line surrounding the property, mortars pre sighted in a killzone, mercs on standby, qrf ready to fast rope in, goons hold up at all breach points, sensitive data ready to be downloaded but my zetabites of anime porn make the download very slow so that more mercs can swarm the area and gas the intruders. More explosives as they try to make their escape. I've also got friends in the upper echelons of SOCOM. My guy on the inside will blast whoever survives my onslaught. I'll be on the others side of the globe doing.... stuff....
build/dig around the woods all the shit from the Vietnam War
There’s gonna be starving Black folk crawling around the woods with guns if SHTF I would just dig a hole and hide with some food until they all died, not be tied down to one location
on the other hand they'll be shooting like this
so it all evens out
>some food
you'll need weeks
and why not be comfy
NOTES ON TACTICAL RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE
by Jeff Cooper
It is easy to deplore the degeneration of our social order, difficult as it may be to explain it. But it is not impossible to do something about it. Before doing so, however, one must admit that it exists. The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent; but, as with death, these facts are hard to accept.
Since most people respond to hypothetical peril with the assumption that it will not come to them, the first step in adjusting to our present social situation is the hard, clear, unflinching understanding that it can indeed come to us—personally. It is amazing to read of people who did not choose to believe this until after they had been victimized. They all knew that burglary, robbery, assault, and murder were not only possible but frequent, but they took no precautions because they simply would not admit that they, themselves, could be the victims.
Once you accept the fact that you actually may be the next target—today—you have taken the first great step toward your own physical security. Having made this simple, if difficult, admission, you can never afterward be surprised, and surprise is the greatest single element in tactics—offensive or defensive.
Defense of your person is your first concern, and it is a very elaborate study to which we have given a great deal of professional attention over the years, but let us turn for the moment to the defense of your home. Street crime is certainly horrific, and it is our national shame that we cannot maintain safe streets in our big cities, but more shocking yet is the thought that we cannot even go home, shut out the street, and relax. The goblins follow us even there. Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
Defense of your home may probably be stated better as defense in your home, for saving your life is the main concern, whether on the street or home in bed. There are things that can be done to avert burglary in your absence, but they are only effective if they are incorporated into the house as it is being built, and they are dauntingly expensive. To build a house that cannot be broken into is to build a fort, and even then it can be defeated if the intruder has the time and the wit. (The pyramids were designed to be burglar-proof, by kings who commanded unlimited wealth and labor. The tomb robbers broke into them almost as soon as the funeral flowers wilted.)
But we can make certain arrangements to insure that our homes are a good deal more secure when we are in them, and I think we should.
In a recent visit to Southern California we were depressed to note the efforts made by householders to harden their homes; first because this was necessary, and second because the systems employed did not seem very effective.
To see iron bars and barbed wire around the houses in which we grew up without even door locks is sadder than to see a city smashed by war, but still worse is to see good people relying on completely passive structures which can never succeed against an evil will. We saw great, electrically operated gates which could be climbed by any active schoolboy. We saw heavy locks on doors which could be burst open at the hinges. We saw guard dogs which could be bribed with doped hamburger. We saw nothing that was specifically designed to enable the homeowner to counterattack. Evidently the doctrine is that one covers up, keeps his head down, and calls the police.
Let us agree on one major point right here. The police cannot protect you in your home. If goblins break in upon you the police should be called—as soon as you get around to it—in order to write our reports and clean up the mess. But the goblins are your problem. Bear that always in mind.
Several features in a house can help you defend it. Some must be built in as the house goes up, but others may be added to structures already completed. In most cases they need be neither unsightly nor inconvenient.
Point One:
When you are asleep you are helpless. Few things can be more nightmarish than to open a drowsy eye to see a shadowy figure standing over you in the gloom. This need never happen.
Bedroom windows must be ironed, obviously in such a way as to permit their opening from the inside in case of fire.
(A prominent United States senator must live out his life with the memory of his adolescent daughter who was murdered in her bedroom by a monster who simply kicked open the French windows—because he, the senator, had not protected his own child.)
But just the windows are not enough. There must be a strong barrier between the sleeping quarters and the rest of the house. A bolted door will do (dead bolt, not a pickable latch), but an iron grill is better because you can see through it—and shoot through it.
No barrier is impenetrable, but if it causes a racket if attacked it will awaken you, and that is all you need. If you are awake, armed, and aware, you cannot be defeated by any predator, human or otherwise. Clearly the iron grill must be fastened in such a way that it cannot be unfastened by stealth. Use your imagination here.
Point Two:
Sleeping quarter protection can usually be installed in a ready-made house, but door arrangement is another matter. You must be able to see who is at the door without exposing yourself. Peep holes are better than nothing, but essentially all doors—front, back, and side—should be recessed in such a way that anyone seeking entrance may be viewed in full, from the side or preferably from behind. When a visitor knocks on your door he should be, in effect, surrounded by your house, aware that he is in view of the people inside from several angles. Even if he intends a coup-de-main he will be at such a tactical disadvantage that he may well chicken out.
Observation must include the capability to fire, so the observation ports must be unscreened, narrow, and openable with one motion. Several sorts of slit windows made for trailers serve this purpose very well if set vertically.
A proof door is an expensive luxury but it does promote sound sleep. Our lower-deck door, which is farthest from our bedroom and therefore hardest for us to hear, is a plywood sandwich with an armored filling, and fastened from the inside with cross-bars rather than a latch. It would be quieter to come through the grouted block wall.
Point Three:
Any house which is properly designed for the Age of Aquarius must permit its perimeter to be visible from inside it. This is the "Vauban Principle," and you must start from scratch to achieve it completely, but even if stuck with a blind rectangle, a single added bastion on one corner will give you coverage of two of four walls, and two diagonally placed bastions will cover all but their own backsides.
Clearly nothing is perfect. Existing structures may be all but impossible to harden, and terrain will often render specific protective features unnecessary, but this is where architectural ingenuity becomes important. (Remember Castle Dracula, protected by frowning battlements on three sides but light and airy on the fourth, which overlooked a thousand-foot precipice?)
Point Four:
Roman patricians, when in town, dwelt in houses designed for an urban jungle no less savage than our own. Outside walls, right on the property line and generally rectangular in plan, were proof against anything but a ram and pierced by very narrow doors. The open living space was inside. This plan was borrowed by the Spaniards and exported to the New World as the patio. This design has much to offer today, where building codes permit. With one side of the quadrangle serving as a garage, and bastions at the four corners, it offers a hard carapace to the outside while providing as large an interior garden as space permits.
Point Five:
No inanimate structure or device can provide physical security in and of itself. Furthermore, no fortress nor sconce can withstand intelligent attack by determined besiegers. What tomorrow's house can offer, however, is comfortable living space which is hard enough to daunt the casual savage and, in addition, will permit the inhabitants to sleep secure in the knowledge that any prospective intruders must (1) make enough noise to alert the defense, and (2) be placed at a serious tactical disadvantage.
Naturally it is desirable for all walls to be relatively proof against small arms fire—especially those which include observation ports. This is not as critical as might first appear, however, since the criminal cannot undertake a siege and must count upon surprise to gain his objectives. You can prevent this by correct observation techniques coupled with a manifest willing- ness to use lethal force against him. Passive defense can succeed only if the cops are within earshot—and not always then.
For those who wish to build a strongpoint in the boon- docks—as opposed to a house in which to spend extended periods in comfort—the Army Department has a nifty field manual on the subject. This is FM 5-15, Field Fortifications. It is not classified.
It should be unnecessary to point out that the shield is useless without the sword, and that neither is of value with- out the brain. Lincoln and Trotsky and Castillo and Sharon Tate and the LaBiancas and General Dozier and the victims of the Boston Strangler could not have been helped by architecture. Their killers were allowed inside. A stranger at your door must be considered a possible target until proven otherwise. And this is not fear, much less the popularly misused term "paranoia." This is intelligent caution. The great leopard of Rudraprayag had no "fear" of people. He was able to terrorize his district for eight years because he was very, very careful. In today's savage world we need not be afraid, but we do need to be careful.
Anyone fortifying their home like an actual bunker is planning on making a stand against criminals wearing uniforms.
>install an iron grate in your bedroom doorway
>degeneration of our social order
What does this mean
>The news tells us that we live in a savage society in which subhumans prey with relative impunity upon the innocent and the decent
Does this refer to petty crime or corporate greed poisoning communities with untreated runoff and leaking pipelines and poorly maintained freight trains, injuring workers with unsafe workplaces, collapsing banks with risking lending?
>Consider the Manson atrocities as only the most notorious on a long and horrible list.
lolwut
When was this written
>on /k/
>doesn’t know who Jeff Cooper is
>gay leftist
>posts despite all this
The quality of this board has never been lower. Never post again, have a nice day, etc etc
>if you're concerned about banks making risky investments and then running to the government for protection, environmental catastrophes, and workplace safety you're a gay leftist
Easy way to prove you belong here just post your gun.
>TLDR: dont live in the city or if you do, be wealthy enough to afford your own kevlar walled mansion with autistic gunports, bedroom blast doors and crew of bucellarii to stand on watch with crossed pila, when youre busy jerking off to Les Baer`s Custom 1911 ads in Soldier of Fortune magazine.
Don't.
Fortification is obvious, and tells the passerby something valuable must be inside.
All it does is invite trouble.
The best defense is inconspicuousness. If it looks like a shithole, no one will care to investigate it. That is safer than anything you could do to affordably fortify a structure.
well if you're on a couple miles of land they wont be casually strolling by in the first place
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-102/Ch6.htm
>obstacles other than minefields
What the frick is that chimney? All the heat going to waste.
I dunno mate its a stock photo I didn't build it or live in it 🙁
>What the frick is that chimney? All the heat going to waste.
Yeah but the upside is all the carbon monoxide is also going out the same hole
I think the stone work is decorative, see how it matches the other side of the stairs
Just because it doesn't look like shit doesn't mean it's not functional. Not all builders browse /k/.
If it's designed as a summerhouse, that could be deliberate. You can use the stove for cooking without making the house hotter than it is already is.
get Medieval
Pic related.
there's only enough room in that to squat
>get in your cuck squat
>curtains
So snipers can't kill your wife while she's holding your babby.
>chicken wire or rebar over window
So grenades, molotovs and flashbangs can't be tossed in.
>barred doors and windows on the ground floor
So it can't be kicked in like a crackhead's apartment.
>Sprinkler on outskirts of house
Distracts people trying to kill you and morons fires.
>security cameras
Easily disabled, but gives you a decent warning.
>myriad of mislabeled chemicals
Makes them call in the bombsquad or CBRN guys to discern whether it is safe to continue.
>dig a basement and escape tunnel 200 yards away from house
There's no greater motivator than a chance at survival.
>myriad of mislabeled chemicals
Just put vats of haphazardly placed everywhere full of vinegar and label it as battery acid.
That is some scary schizo defence right there. Chicken wire over windows works great in Ukraine atm.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I'll take a compliment if it is given. Honestly haven't been paying attention to the Ukraine meta, I imagine tossed grenades and flashbangs are blocked by simple kinetic means, but a rocket, artillery shell or noob tube would easily defeat it.
This.
My wife gets false alarms every day, because alley cats love to shit in my yard. She gets to fawn over the cute creatures and as a result will also immediately alert me when they're not 4 legged creatures.
If a squad is fighting a BMP or other vehicle they will save their RPGs or tubes. I assume a bug in cabin isn't vs some military force cause you'd be fricked in any scenario then.
Sandbags and sheet metal around the windows, leaving gun slots, clear scrub occluding line of sight, set up trail cameras in the surrounding area, and keep fire buckets of sand and extinguishers.
Anyone suggesting mines, traps, and ditches are idiots. There's a reason they stopped using that shit around spec ops camps in Vietnam. Wildlife triggering mines, the traps making it difficult for maintenance crews (imagine getting your foot stuck because you forgot about it when out to get some firewood), and ditches provided cover for attackers. Not to mention actually having to spend time checking the mines, traps, ditches, and doing maintenance on them. Every second wasted on that is another second out in the open.
Against gnomes and fairies? Not a chance.
Mountain of the Moleman, duh. The cabin is just bait and storage/sleeping.
>high ground
>dig
>build
>fill holes
The cabin will be entirely underground inside a hill covered in trees. Entrances will have camouflaged wooden doors, with steel security doors behind them. The upper floor will have loopholes strategically cut into boulders on the hillside, giving a clear shot at the surrounding area. Exhaust pipes for burners and generators will be hidden in coppices, and each one will have internal grating so you can't just drop a grenade down them.
How do you deal with humidity
The hidden exhaust pipes allow air to circulate. On a really damp day you can even light the burners at one end and leave the other cold, so the convection gets a through-draft going. It's built into high ground, so water won't accumulate around it. In a worst case scenario you could use your generator to power a dehumidifier, but that shouldn't be needed too often.
There are whole books out there about living partially or wholly underground in sunk dwellings. This isn't hard to read up on. Indeed, everyone should.
Any recommendations?
Dig slowly and wing it
Not that anon but..
https://undergroundhousing.com/
The advantages (especially for off grid self sufficient types) are numerous.
Think about going from needing 6 cord firewood to make it through the winter vs 1 cord.
Who the frick needs six cord unless you live above the Arctic Circle? I got by until the end of February with two, and only ordered a third because of the crazy weather, and I expect to have most of it left over for next year.
People in poorly insulated or large houses.
I know several people in Michigan who go through more than 5 cord a winter, one guy up in Newberry went through 8.
Vapor barrier and an open window.
>will have internal grating so you can't just drop a grenade down them.
Nothing an AN-M14 down ventilation shafts or pumping phosgene into them can't take care of.
Based northerner. Others merely adopted the cold. We were born into it, molded by it.
Good point, they should have a steel funnel at the top so grenades bounce back up. There's not much you can do about gas except keep a mask and a good stock of filters in the cabin.
This looks so damn comfy. I need a hobbit hole with a nice fireplace inside.
If you don't go underground, you can still keep your house MUCH warmer in the winter by building into the southern slope of a hill or mountainside. For us northern hemisphere people that is.
Don't these suck for drainage?
>fireplace on the outer wall
I really hope you guys don't actually do this
Did someone say they need help fortifying a log cabin? I might have a few tips.
Landmines
cameras. the most important thing is reliable cameras with motion detection, which warn you of any intruders. the best defense is seeing them coming.
motion detection innawoods seems like you'd be getting false alarms every time an animal walked by
Motion sensors for home alarms are designed not to pick up small animals, so that people's pets don't set them off while they're at work.
>small animals
so only deer, cougars, and bears will be waking you up all night long
Every security option has trade-offs.
>cameras. the most important thing is reliable cameras with motion detection, which warn you of any intruders. the best defense is seeing them coming.
An alternative to cameras if you can't use them for some reason (say if you don't have power) are those spring-loaded tripwires that fit 12g shells. I've got a few that I plan to run along the fence line if shtf, or around approaches to my camp site if I'm forced to go innatent.
Obviously cameras are the better option if you can.
I wouldn't. I would however dig an escape tunnel that I could use to vanish into that treeline behind the house.
I'm on the top of a mountain, and there is only one road that comes up here. I could take the small bridges out that cross over the drainage to keep vehicles from coming up. If anyone wants to make the climb, so be it. Its grueling and rocky. By the time they get to the top, the dogs will be on them, and my trusty lever action in 45-70 will do the rest
What is your plan for food and water once you take out the bridges?
What sort of dogs?
I have a garden, a greenhouse, fruit trees, and a coop for my chickens. There is also a spring that I get water from, and a small pond further down the mountain that has fish in it. If I'm staying put for a long time, I'll probably bring some food too
>What sort of dogs?
I have two Australian shepherds.
>What is your plan for food and water once you take out the bridges?
Given that he knows the drainage ditches are there he could easily store materials to improvise a bridge should he need to whereas outsiders won't know to bring such materials with them unless they've scouted the area in advance.
Better keep dem chickens in the coop pardner!
Turtling never works.
Thorny hedgerows, once set up it's a self growing perimeter wall. Bonus points if you hide a chainlink fence inside
Loss of visibility is really a double-edged sword though. Sure, no one can snipe you while you're tending the chickens but on the other hand you can't see people on the approach.
Hedgerows will always help the defender especially combined with dense lush hilly woods you can spot and shoot through.
Can americans really build these cabins and just leave them in the woods? Nobody will come and rob it, no hobo will break into it and live there, no teens wanting to find a place to party?
Yes. Its private property and property rights are a staple of the United States. Trying to break into a rural American cabin/house is a dangerous thing to do. Of course it can happen but it’s unusual and one should expect to get shot.
>but it’s unusual
Not really. Cabins getting broken into is actually a relatively common occurrence.
>Record cabin for a few days
>No lights, no cars, no movement
>Everything inside is free and there is no way to track you down
Literally the only thing that protects from this in eu is to know locals well (and be a perfect cake baking, snow shoveling neighbourgh) or having someone checking out the cabin every few days + live camera feed on mobile
Yeah here in the US you just stick an alarm on your cabin and if someone breaks in your neighbor comes over and kills them.
Shoot, shovel, and shut up.
they dont have home alarms in the rest of the world?
I would just make underground bunker and the cabin is just the entrance to it.
>bomb knocks out house
>debris piled on top of the entrance/exit hatch
>3,000lbs of rubble weighing down on it
>can't open hatch
>survive bomb strike
>only to become prisoners of your own making
>eventually resort to eating your own family before starving to death
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Sign outside that says "condemned due to dangerous mold infestation" and a hidden bomb shelter I can chill in.