Why do these rocket organizations use a bow and arrow symbol?
For the American's it was the early symbol used by the USAF for space, the shape became popularized by Star Trek which actually copied it from the USAF.
>anon doesn't know about the great galactic ghoul
The truth is that outer space has always been militarized and always will be. Almost every first in space except the Apollo Program were done by militaries.
Space is currently very weaponized. Lots of satellites are dedicated to military functions. All long-range ballistic missiles, the backbone of everyone’s nuclear force, travel through space. If you mean putting weapon systems on satellites you probably don’t need to worry about that. The huge increase in cost to boost such mass into orbit isn’t worth it when deterrence via ballistic missile is so viable.
And another thing. Combat in space will be super gay and boring. It’s all going to be a fight determined 100% by thrust and mathematics. Meaning, if you know the enemy’s variables you can calculate the outcome of any engagement with almost perfect certainty. That means there’s not going to be a fight to begin with. It’s going to be a soulless, gay exercise of putting more and bigger stuff into orbit with the winner being whoever can put the most stuff up.
>not a single person at risk of dying >superiority determined by how much intel you can acquire and how smart your engineers are >more shit being sent to space means lower costs of getting to orbit and rapidly improving space tech
Really depends on how much mass you have to work with. Current era space shuttles? Yeah that's a no go. Melting a nickel iron asteroid into a 3 trillion ton orbital fortress of doom? Might be interesting.
"It was quite small for what it could do -- small enough to fit into an average-sized living room -- but it was moving at 92 percent of light speed when it touched Earth's atmosphere. A spear point of light appeared, so intense that the air below snapped away from it, creating a low-density tunnel through which the object descended. The walls of the tunnel were a plasma boundary layer, six and a half kilometers wide and more than 160 deep -- the flaming spear that Virginia's eyes began to register -- with every square foot of its surface radiating a trillion watts, and still its destructive potential was but fractionally spent.
Thirty-three kilometers above the Indian Ocean, the point began to encounter too much air. It tunneled down only eight kilometers more, then stalled and detonated, less than two-thousandths of a second after crossing the orbits of Earth's nearest artificial satellites.
Virginia was more than three hundred kilometers away when the light burst toward her. Every nerve ending in her body began to record a strange, prickling sensation -- the sheer pressure of photons trying to push her backward. No shadows were cast anywhere in the tower, so bright was the glare. It pierced walls, ceramic beams, notepads, and people -- four hundred thousand people. The maglev terminal connecting Sri Lanka Tower to London and Sydney, the waste treatment centers that sustained the lakes and farms, all the shops, theaters, and apartments liquefied instantly. The structure began to slip and crash like a giant waterfall, but gravity could not yank it down fast enough. The Tower became vapor before it could fall half a meter. At the vanished city's feet, the trees of the forest were no longer able to cast shadows; they had themselves become long shadows of carbonized dust on the ground."
Well let me save you the time with this one, I've read The Killing Star and it is not a good book. It has a problem shared by the majority of hard sci-fi, which is that good stories are always about characters and The Killing Star contains zero interesting characters. It's technological fetishism with no substance, values, lessons, ideology, or anything else like that. Charles Pellegrino knows the exact specific impulse of his physically accurate antimatter-powered torchship, but not how to make you feel something.
I need to read more sci-fi. That's pretty cool writing.
"Candle in a cosmic wind" is a pretty good scifi story - benevolent aliens come and visit earth to teach us all their wisdom and share their tecchnology, but when they arrive earth is a radiocative wasteland. Some bits of their anti-meteorite shield they used for traveling interstellar space detached during their braking meanivre and hit earth's atmosphere at 99% light speed, and the resulting gigantic fireworks and explosions convinced all nuclear powers on earth that they were being attacked by one of the other powers... and so they "retaliated", everybody against everybody else.
Honestly I'm a bit worried about this. If we don't do it first someone worse will. Then we hit a point it's no longer possible. We go extinct, the planet is and always has been doomed to become not habitable. Our species can escape it and evolve or continue to be a species. Or it dies on this planet. We're at a point where demonic bastards are trying to destroy humanity as a hole.
Why put weapons up? That just gives other nations opportunities to Kessler Effect your spy satellites. Especially since all the fighting's done on Earth, you don't need much more than communications and observation.
>US weapon
The weapon's primary objective would probably be the deployment of tactical face diapers via mass parachutes and laserbeam clotshots from above. Perhaps some sort of rainbow beam that makes the targeted area turn gay.
will be weaponized by sending out hordes of crazed violent space-apes which hijack incoming space ships and destroy everything with their wild uncontrolable feral ape rage
I don't understand why its always rods, wouldn't the kinetic force of a sphere or hollowpoint-style projectile be greater than a rod that just goes straight into the ground?
Rod shapes minimize air resistance, that being said most people who talk up "rods from god" have a poor understanding of orbital mechanics (you cannot just throw a rod from a satellite at the Earth) and a poorer understanding of how powerful they are not.
Space can only be weaponized as a unified Earth fleet. Any other options would result in either exorbitant costs or the short-lived dominance of one side, which would be punished.
But the idea of militarizing space is flawed in principle. Anyone who substantively contemplates seizing supremacy over the only thing that can bind humans to the surrounding universe deserves to be executed as a diseased element of humanity.
Space is already weaponized and has been since the days of Sputnik.
Modern militaries are incredibly reliant on intel taken from spy satellites, GPS and communications dependent on communications satellites.
Satellites are both the greatest weapons of the modern military as well as it's achilles heel. If any enemy military or rogue state were able to destroy or disable those satellites it could greatly cripple the military's effectiveness.
Any modern global conflict between superpowers is going to involve first strikes against satellite infrastructure.
Beyond that we could also see a modern take on the Strategic Defense Initiative with modern reusable heavy launch platforms like Falcon heavy and Starship it would be far more realistic to achieve.
>How will Space be weaponized?
Spy satellites, missiles and jammers to disable other satellites. Attacking the ground from space doesn't really make sense. Either you need to place some sort of explosive or kinetic weapon in space which is less efficient and less convenient than an ICBM, or you could dream up some sort of energy weapon like in Akira but it wouldn't physically work. The amount of power a laser would need to damage the ground from space would be inconceivable, and not only would you need to harvest all that power from somewhere, you'd also need to dissipate ridiculous amounts of heat. Oh, and it's still inconvenient as frick, you can only attack very close to where the satellite happens to be
Hey /k/, I've been hearing weird things coming from station 13, anyone know anything? Just a little worried since my friend has been doing gigs in outer stations as a clown and last I heard he's been chilling there waiting for the next interplanetary flight out. Just wanna make sure he's doing alright.
>how will space be weaponized
it wont
>should I be concerned
yes
I'm not quite sure how your latter answer follows the first.
Nobody will admit they put weapons in space until tungsten rods start falling
Pretty sure three nations have explicitly admitted they have/will be putting weapons in space.
Can someone explain this arrowhead meme to me?
Why do these rocket organizations use a bow and arrow symbol?
It looks dope and anyone into space liked star trek at some point.
rocket ship goes up
Rockets ships don’t go up, they move opposite to the direction of their propulsion.
There is no up when it comes to rockets
you know what i mean
what part of "rocket ship goes up" do you not understand
For the American's it was the early symbol used by the USAF for space, the shape became popularized by Star Trek which actually copied it from the USAF.
All three repeated the in the same language damn it Jim I'm a doctor not a marketing agent.
>anon doesn't know about the great galactic ghoul
The truth is that outer space has always been militarized and always will be. Almost every first in space except the Apollo Program were done by militaries.
>it won't
It already is
Brilliant pebbles attached to starlink v3
a LAZER will BLIND me and it is shot out of space! horrible
someone will revive the Brilliant Pebbles concept to ensure ICBMs ar rendered impotent. After that its showtime.
What about the ASAT lasers?
Space is currently very weaponized. Lots of satellites are dedicated to military functions. All long-range ballistic missiles, the backbone of everyone’s nuclear force, travel through space. If you mean putting weapon systems on satellites you probably don’t need to worry about that. The huge increase in cost to boost such mass into orbit isn’t worth it when deterrence via ballistic missile is so viable.
>The huge increase in cost to boost such mass into orbit isn’t worth it
Starship might change that
all there is currently are a few flying high resolution cameras.
that is all.
And those cameras are the most dangerous weapons of all
And another thing. Combat in space will be super gay and boring. It’s all going to be a fight determined 100% by thrust and mathematics. Meaning, if you know the enemy’s variables you can calculate the outcome of any engagement with almost perfect certainty. That means there’s not going to be a fight to begin with. It’s going to be a soulless, gay exercise of putting more and bigger stuff into orbit with the winner being whoever can put the most stuff up.
>not a single person at risk of dying
>superiority determined by how much intel you can acquire and how smart your engineers are
>more shit being sent to space means lower costs of getting to orbit and rapidly improving space tech
Sounds based
Really depends on how much mass you have to work with. Current era space shuttles? Yeah that's a no go. Melting a nickel iron asteroid into a 3 trillion ton orbital fortress of doom? Might be interesting.
>Melting a nickel iron asteroid into a 3 trillion ton orbital fortress of doom? Might be interesting.
Bros, are we going to have real death stars?
Hope so.
"It was quite small for what it could do -- small enough to fit into an average-sized living room -- but it was moving at 92 percent of light speed when it touched Earth's atmosphere. A spear point of light appeared, so intense that the air below snapped away from it, creating a low-density tunnel through which the object descended. The walls of the tunnel were a plasma boundary layer, six and a half kilometers wide and more than 160 deep -- the flaming spear that Virginia's eyes began to register -- with every square foot of its surface radiating a trillion watts, and still its destructive potential was but fractionally spent.
Thirty-three kilometers above the Indian Ocean, the point began to encounter too much air. It tunneled down only eight kilometers more, then stalled and detonated, less than two-thousandths of a second after crossing the orbits of Earth's nearest artificial satellites.
Virginia was more than three hundred kilometers away when the light burst toward her. Every nerve ending in her body began to record a strange, prickling sensation -- the sheer pressure of photons trying to push her backward. No shadows were cast anywhere in the tower, so bright was the glare. It pierced walls, ceramic beams, notepads, and people -- four hundred thousand people. The maglev terminal connecting Sri Lanka Tower to London and Sydney, the waste treatment centers that sustained the lakes and farms, all the shops, theaters, and apartments liquefied instantly. The structure began to slip and crash like a giant waterfall, but gravity could not yank it down fast enough. The Tower became vapor before it could fall half a meter. At the vanished city's feet, the trees of the forest were no longer able to cast shadows; they had themselves become long shadows of carbonized dust on the ground."
I need to read more sci-fi. That's pretty cool writing.
Well let me save you the time with this one, I've read The Killing Star and it is not a good book. It has a problem shared by the majority of hard sci-fi, which is that good stories are always about characters and The Killing Star contains zero interesting characters. It's technological fetishism with no substance, values, lessons, ideology, or anything else like that. Charles Pellegrino knows the exact specific impulse of his physically accurate antimatter-powered torchship, but not how to make you feel something.
"Candle in a cosmic wind" is a pretty good scifi story - benevolent aliens come and visit earth to teach us all their wisdom and share their tecchnology, but when they arrive earth is a radiocative wasteland. Some bits of their anti-meteorite shield they used for traveling interstellar space detached during their braking meanivre and hit earth's atmosphere at 99% light speed, and the resulting gigantic fireworks and explosions convinced all nuclear powers on earth that they were being attacked by one of the other powers... and so they "retaliated", everybody against everybody else.
Orbital ring and just drop trash on your enemies.
What is Project Marauder.
An experimental plasma weapon concept explored by the USAF back in the 90s. Went classified a long time ago.
Honestly I'm a bit worried about this. If we don't do it first someone worse will. Then we hit a point it's no longer possible. We go extinct, the planet is and always has been doomed to become not habitable. Our species can escape it and evolve or continue to be a species. Or it dies on this planet. We're at a point where demonic bastards are trying to destroy humanity as a hole.
Why put weapons up? That just gives other nations opportunities to Kessler Effect your spy satellites. Especially since all the fighting's done on Earth, you don't need much more than communications and observation.
Frickin laser beams.
>US weapon
The weapon's primary objective would probably be the deployment of tactical face diapers via mass parachutes and laserbeam clotshots from above. Perhaps some sort of rainbow beam that makes the targeted area turn gay.
will be weaponized by sending out hordes of crazed violent space-apes which hijack incoming space ships and destroy everything with their wild uncontrolable feral ape rage
we will call them humans!
>How will Space be weaponized?
Space will not be weaponized, we will conquer the galaxy using love and empathy.
Yeah maybe you can shill to replace the flag on the moon with the gay-rag
The constitution protects your right to have rods of god. No need to worry.
Brilliant pebbles leading to the breakdown of MAD and first strikes against Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel when?
WHEN?
Humans can't even live in Antarctica or Africa. Space isnt coming any time soon.
There are humans living in Antarctica and Africa right now
Why does one need to live in antarctica in order to weaponize a space craft?
What kind of weird prerequisite is that?
NETS
i was promised cool lasers and spaceships
would be hilarious to take down multi billion dollar satellite networks with nets tho
That's just a cucked version of pic.
I don't understand why its always rods, wouldn't the kinetic force of a sphere or hollowpoint-style projectile be greater than a rod that just goes straight into the ground?
It can be a cube if they want anon, the reentry speed it's to fast that dont matter the shape.
Im pretty sure USA has some rods on orbit and Russia has some space laser and stuff, just see Polyus
Anything but a rod will either burn up or slow down too much to cause an explosion on the ground.
Rod shapes minimize air resistance, that being said most people who talk up "rods from god" have a poor understanding of orbital mechanics (you cannot just throw a rod from a satellite at the Earth) and a poorer understanding of how powerful they are not.
I'm assuming going into the ground is a feature, not a bug, since they'd be able to quickly take out silos.
Destruction of the atmosphere leading to dome cities where you're not allowed in unless you're ready to obey
Space can only be weaponized as a unified Earth fleet. Any other options would result in either exorbitant costs or the short-lived dominance of one side, which would be punished.
But the idea of militarizing space is flawed in principle. Anyone who substantively contemplates seizing supremacy over the only thing that can bind humans to the surrounding universe deserves to be executed as a diseased element of humanity.
Such a good photo
>tfw born too early to nuke aliens
Yeah but why the furry porn
Because it’s 2022, chud
It would probably start as ICBM defense, countries would then put their nukes in space to counter the defense
Space is already weaponized and has been since the days of Sputnik.
Modern militaries are incredibly reliant on intel taken from spy satellites, GPS and communications dependent on communications satellites.
Satellites are both the greatest weapons of the modern military as well as it's achilles heel. If any enemy military or rogue state were able to destroy or disable those satellites it could greatly cripple the military's effectiveness.
Any modern global conflict between superpowers is going to involve first strikes against satellite infrastructure.
Beyond that we could also see a modern take on the Strategic Defense Initiative with modern reusable heavy launch platforms like Falcon heavy and Starship it would be far more realistic to achieve.
Just imagine US orbital supremacy once Starship Cargo is operational.
>How will Space be weaponized?
Spy satellites, missiles and jammers to disable other satellites. Attacking the ground from space doesn't really make sense. Either you need to place some sort of explosive or kinetic weapon in space which is less efficient and less convenient than an ICBM, or you could dream up some sort of energy weapon like in Akira but it wouldn't physically work. The amount of power a laser would need to damage the ground from space would be inconceivable, and not only would you need to harvest all that power from somewhere, you'd also need to dissipate ridiculous amounts of heat. Oh, and it's still inconvenient as frick, you can only attack very close to where the satellite happens to be
Hey /k/, I've been hearing weird things coming from station 13, anyone know anything? Just a little worried since my friend has been doing gigs in outer stations as a clown and last I heard he's been chilling there waiting for the next interplanetary flight out. Just wanna make sure he's doing alright.
Yeah
Yes. Fear the Age of War. If the enemy is in range, you must assume they will strike.
You play "COD: Ghosts" ? Basically that.
What about Infinite Warfare?