Well he's not wrong. Russia squandered the opportunity to pull off shock and awe in the first days of the war because they thought this would be like the USSR in czechoslovakia and tried to win the hearts and minds of the population. Now that they know it's a real war they are launching everything they have, to little effect since the ukies are ready for it
Vatnik, the Russians were launching unguided munitions the entire war and launching cruise missiles at apartments days in. Once they realized the only people in Ukraine who wanted their corruption were in Crimea and the bydlo republics, they resorted to what they did in Chechnya and Syria. Also, I'm not sure how the U.S. supposedly spams missiles for 4 weeks when Baghdad fell in 3 weeks from the start of the war.
this is accurate though, in Russian surgery the operating doctor begins by getting drunk and randomly stabbing the patient all over the body before the very special operation can commence.
it's crazy cause vatnik twitter shills how the UA "volksturm" keep getting captured and then they cant take the fucking village that they've erased with TOS and 152 the entire time.
Pisky offensive was just a fient , the village has been given back to Ukraine as a gesture of good will. The real goal was the village's Eastern outhouse, so the Russians could start shitting in private.
>how will Russians take Kiev >how will Russians take Odessa >how will Russians take Kharkov
I'm not saying Russians won't capture Pisky, but you have gone from capturing the enemy capital in a week to fighting for a month over an irrelevant village that nobody lives in and is on the border of Donetsk
>Russians would rather tell themselves that NATO is intervening directly in Ukraine and Monke can do nothing about it than admit that the strong Russian bear has been reduced to WW1 warfare by a country they consider beneath them.
>seeing a pattern yet?
Each one took an exponentially longer time to take while also being smaller than the previous place?
So, in two months or so after capturing Pisky, they're gonna spend the rest of the year capturing some dude's back yard?
1. Spend thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment to take a small town.
2. Realise that there's a 100 more of those to take.
3. Realise you just wasted 3 month on a 3km advance.
The thing is they have over a million soldiers, more equipment than all of NATO combined and give a fuck about mass casulaties so can take Ukraine a piecemeal. Remember that USA is so scared of Russian nuclear might tha they still refuse to provide ATACMS.
LMAO, suuure. If you count all the rusted-out wrecks in the ass-end of Siberia perhaps.
Well, guess what? At the current rate? No, they won't take Ukraine piecemeal. Becuase at the current rate, the Ukrainians will have exterminated every single last military-age male Russian alive before then. And good fucking luck trying to "not give a fuck about mass casualties" when it's literally your entire army and every able-bodied conscript avaiable to you that's become mass casualties.
Remember that outside delusional vatmoron propaganda the USA are so "scared" that they've literally written into law that they will provide effectively infinite weapons and funding to the Ukrainians for the duration of this war, no matter if it will take months or decades to end it.
>keeps the absurd amounts prototype shit
Unlike USA, they usualy finish their prototypes sooner or later like this one
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-is-working-on-a-new-anti-ship-ballistic-missile-report
LMAO. Just like their vapourware Armata, their vapourware SU-57, their dozens upon dozens of vapourware warships, all their vapourware superweapons etc.
The only thing Russia ususally finishes when it comes to miltiary prototypes is their propaganda campaigns to hype them up.
>Becuase at the current rate, the Ukrainians will have exterminated every single last military-age male Russian alive before then.
More like Russians will exterminate all Ukrainian fighting age males because they have much bigger population, stronger firepower and Ukrainian demographics are even shitter than Russian with the majority of population being old people.
>. Just like their vapourware Armata, their vapourware SU-57
Not vaporware. They will produce them when the time is right now they have more pressing expenditures.
You are joking right? I’m assuming you are a troll and not a vatnog but if you are…
The best time to build wunderwaffles was a decade ago, the other best time would be now, when you are at war. But you won’t because Russians fail at everything save the suffering they cause themselves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They prioritize nuclear wunderwaffes. They already produce Su-57 and Armata is too expensive to waste it in Ukraine. It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Russia has virtually endless artillery and shells. They can do it for decades to come and produce more.
>Literally how, do you honestly think it is 1914 and you can just draft a million men into the front?
Russia can do it but they are winning anyway so no reason to do it for now.
those dead paratroopers really jogging your nogging eh mr.shitskin? or was it the bridge massacre? or still mourning planes in crimea? or dugin's whore? damn. it's getting harder and harder to guess what vatmorons cry over these days. i miss simple times when it was clear the tears were about moskva or pontoons. now so much awful shit is happening to rusgays it's impossible to know what the shilling is all about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They prioritize nuclear wunderwaffes
They have enough of those already built. Focussing on making more nukes or nuke delivery vehicles over making things like modern jets and modern tanks would betray an absolute brainlet level of priority allocation
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They already produce Su-57 and Armata is too expensive to waste it in Ukraine.
To waste? Not a lot of confidence in your army. >It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe.
You just said it couldn't survive Ukraine but it'll take on F-22;'s and F-35's. lol
>The thing is they have over a million soldiers
The thing is they don't. They're offering prisoners shortened sentences by sending them straight to the front.
Russia has mobilized its reserves in full, which ammounts to a little over 2 million personnel, at least officially.
Also officially, less than 500k of that is "soldiers".
During peacetime, Russia has roughly 1 million armed forces personnel. And again, only ~300k of that is "soldiers".
>how will Russians take Mariupol (population: 400k) >how will Russians take Severodonetsk (population: 100k) >how will Russians take Popasna ( population: 10k) >how will Russians take Pisky (population: 0) >seeing a pattern yet?
Huh, I wonder what this pattern must be?
>Ukraine can easily replace tens of thousands killed and maimed
Literally how, do you honestly think it is 1914 and you can just draft a million men into the front?
>Literally how, do you honestly think it is 1914 and you can just draft a million men into the front?
Russia can do it but they are winning anyway so no reason to do it for now.
In two months Russia will have to do another "tactical pause" and bleed manpower and vehicles like crazy? If Russia keeps winning victories like this, there won't be a Russia left at the end of this war.
I never saw anyone saying this, I saw people mocking how long it was taking (Even British intelligence thought it was days from collapse in April), but nobody seriously suggesting they wouldn’t take Mariupol.
Yea because washing machines are a strategically important asset, so Babuschka at home can instead spend her time waiting in line and buying Troja toilet cleaner for her sons to get drunk.
Thing is, back in March the general consensus was that Kramatorsk/Sloviansk line would end up being the Ukies primary line of defence in Donbass and the Russians would push them there by the end of the month, mid April at the latest. It is now the end of August...
Guess that's why they're hammering not losing kherson and desperately trying to make it into a propaganda victory, it's their main operation right now.
Speaking of.... Did the TOS-1 prove to be another useless wunderwaffe? The only reports I've seen of them being in the war was when they were abandooned during the first few weeks. I suppose it's short range and tank chassis makes it incompatible with Russian "logistics"
it proved to be great propaganda tool to inflate Russian kill count >lob in general direction of enemy >declare several hundred dead because TOS killed everyone that "was" there
>The TOS is what they pretend HIMARS is like.
TOS is completely different. It's a short-range mass destruction weapon. for destroying cities and trenches
GMLRS can be used for those purposes, far more effectively and at longer ranges. If you're willing to spare the cases that is
1 year ago
Anonymous
>5 of 6 craters evenly spaced and perfectly targeted on a trench line >1 of 6 just sort of chilling off to the side
1 year ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure thats just them hitting the corner.
God i fucking love the western MIC and its products.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I will never shittalk the US MIC again.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thats fucking outrageous.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Made it back to port under its own power!
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/ynp2Nee.jpg
Pretty sure thats just them hitting the corner.
God i fucking love the western MIC and its products.
Christ
1 year ago
Anonymous
>GMLRS can be used for those purposes, far more effectively and at longer ranges. If you're willing to spare the cases that is
HIMARS can makes a few small craters, TOS kills everything in a few hundred meters.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>TOS kills everything in a few hundred meters.
Hilarious joke. Unironically the TOS-1 is ultimately a wunderwaffe that finds more use in media than in actual combat.
You wouldn't be saying that when a few cases of GMLRS AW hit your trench with pinpoint accuracy. The tens of thousands of tungsten projectiles in each warhead turning its inhabitants into red mist.
The TOS-1 is unguided (also inaccurate), short ranged, and highly vulnerable to counter battery fire. Its basically a glorified, factory made, thermobaric IRAM.
Isn't the whole point of TOS-1 to be a terror weapon for sieges anyway? Based on what I've read about it it was designed to flatten disobedient cities rather than fulfilling a battlefield purpose and would be useless in a shooting war with NATO.
>Slow, heavy steel can stuffed full of incredibly powerful bombs >Short range so has to get close to the front lines >In a war famous for ambushes >Against an enemy armed with tens of thousands of the most advanced AA systems
I would desert faster than you could say "20% of Russia's population doesn't have indoor plumbing"
>I would desert faster than you could say "20% of Russia's population doesn't have indoor plumbing"
This dude gets it
The guys that served on similar shit basically told me they would ABANDOOON the first sign of shit getting dicey
No, it's a useful weapon. Short range massive HE rocket barrages are a successful weapon dating back to WW2, despite being re-forgotten after each war because they're unglamorous and simplistic.
It's simply that the short range and psychological effects make it an easy to hit priority target so few survived the initial months.
Thermobarics are massively overhyped like every other Russian wunderwaffe.
They serve a niche of killing infantry holed up in residential buildings without having to siege them.
This was mostly a response to Chechnya and the follow up wave of terrorist cells popping up.
Making rocket artillery but WOW THERMOBARIC no longer fills that niche, and is actually inferior in almost all relevant metrics to regular rocket artillery.
So yes, it's a meme weapon.
But when the US Air Force did it obviously it was fucking perfect in every regard with no counter whatsoever.
These posts proliferate on this board like mould. >I thought Russian weapons were made of pure magic
Then you're an idiot >but now I realize that that they're completely harmless and don't do anything at all
And you still are.
>Soviet union produces absurd amounts of prototype shit on top of its serial production >Russian federation loses the capability to produce meaningful amounts of armor or aircraft >keeps the absurd amounts prototype shit
It fucks me up how this was enough to convince half the world that they're still a global military power.
Then again, some people still think that six months into their blyatzkrieg into a neighboring country with the GDP of fucking Kuwait.
>keeps the absurd amounts prototype shit
Unlike USA, they usualy finish their prototypes sooner or later like this one
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-is-working-on-a-new-anti-ship-ballistic-missile-report
>Unlike the USA
Anon stop making me laugh
Pic unrelated
1 year ago
Anonymous
USA cancels majority of its research programs. Russians eventually finish their shit even if sometimes they have to suspend programs due to lack of money.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol holy shit you fuckers are beyond saving, i feel sorry for your parents if you're an actual westerner
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Su-57 >introduced 2020 >16 built (10 prototypes, 6 serial, of which one ate shit) >F-35 >introduced 2015 >825+ built
>Speaking of.... Did the TOS-1 prove to be another useless wunderwaffe? The only reports I've seen of them being in the war was when they were abandooned during the first few weeks. I suppose it's short range and tank chassis makes it incompatible with Russian "logistics"
It's wiping cities and soldiers in trenches just fine.
Sometimes you just gotta take a step back and think about how insanely inadequate the forces at play are. Donetsk is the capital of one of the two separatist republics, has been for 8 years, and they have the full backing of the Russian Army. Yet we're half a year into this war and they still haven't taken a village sitting on the plains, less than 10 kms from Donetsk city proper. If the UA political leadership wasn't completely retarded even Lyschansk may still be Ukrainian, amazing.
It's 10km to the city centre. But Pisky borders Donetsk, it's right there.
In 2014 they couldn't take the Donetsk airport for 5 month, and only did it by the way of levelling it to the ground. And back then we didn't even have a real army.
>If the UA political leadership wasn't completely retarded even Lyschansk may still be Ukrainian, amazing
Ukraine didn't have HIMARS then so Russian artillery worked 60000 shells a day, even if Ukraine didn't hold Severodonetsk(which Russians paid in blood for every inch), they'd have to abandon Lysychansk anyway but with lower Russian losses
Severo was a mistake and no, the Russian casualties don't make up for it. Any casualties the Russians suffered at Severo they would've suffered the same and more at Lysychansk with Ukraine also holding onto Luhansk longer with the option to withdraw more efficiently when the time inevitably comes.
>would've suffered the same and more at Lysychansk
there would be no fighting in Lysychansk anyway, if they just took troops in Severodonetsk and send them to Popasna they'd use them to go around Lysychansk, not fighting in Lysychansk
There are American towns that sound like stupid vulgar shit in English.
And some people have lists lists of towns that sound funny in other languages:
https://matadornetwork.com/read/us-cities-translate-hilariously/
I assume most of these places are on the same level as Pisky, because Cape Cod (Cape Norwegian Penis) is the only one I've ever heard of.
>Are you saying the Russians are now bombing a village they supposedly captured weeks ago and killing their own forces?
tbh that sounds like something Russia would do
then why does Russia keep saying they're attacking it and making progress and showing videos of them attacking it? See [...]
Are they just attacking it because they can't attack anything else and need to show they are doing something?
then why does Russia keep saying they're attacking it and making progress and showing videos of them attacking it? See
https://i.imgur.com/FfAveqs.jpg
it's crazy cause vatnik twitter shills how the UA "volksturm" keep getting captured and then they cant take the fucking village that they've erased with TOS and 152 the entire time.
Are they just attacking it because they can't attack anything else and need to show they are doing something?
I didn't say anything about Avdeevka being taken just asking if OP is confusing them since its a heavily fortified place like Peski
They claimed to take Pisky like two weeks ago and boasted how it was a turning point in the whole Donbass area for some reason. It turns out Ukies are still entrenched in the northen part to this day.
I would like to also remind everyone that it's a village literally on the suburbs of the Donetsk city just 1 (one) km from away from the infamous Donetsk airport and Donbabweans were unable to take it for 6 (six) months so far.
No matter how fortified these places are its embarrassing that the Russians still allow Ukrainians to shell innocent civilians in Donetsk from these places.
Especially because a place like Peski has no civilians anymore and its only military personnel and equipment. What's stopping them from carpet bombing this village besides incompetence?
What's wrong with me? What do you mean? All targets hit by AFU in the Donetsk were military ones. Same as when Russians bombed those schools, shopping malls, thaters and hospitals. All valid military targets full of soldiers, remeber?
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah they are bombing military targets by shelling residential buildings and throwing dozens of mines on every street
1 year ago
Anonymous
Those residental buildings are packed with Russian soldiers. So they are valid targets.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you are mentally ill
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why? You can't prove there weren't Russian soldiers there when those building were hit. And generally Ukraine is conducting methodical and surgical approach in this special military operation so there's no need to worry about civilians.
1 year ago
Anonymous
see
you are mentally ill
also i like how you ignored the mines thing
1 year ago
Anonymous
But that would mean Russian military leadership is also mentally ill.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Well of course they are mentally ill since they allow civilians in Dotensk to be shelled by the Ukrainians
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, they are mentally ill becasue they deliberately shell Ukrianian civilans and then use bullshit stupid excuses like I did in my previous posts.
Now fuck off vatnik.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>For 8 years Russia, Luganda, and Dombabwe have claimed that they Ukrainians have been committing atrocities against them >For 8 years the UN has offered to send observers to document these atrocites >For 8 years Russia, Luganda, and Dombabwe have said no
Really makes you think.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why are you lying? Foreign observers were allowed and they documented that 15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years.
Also lets not forget that they literally burned people alive in a building in Odessa
No, they are mentally ill becasue they deliberately shell Ukrianian civilans and then use bullshit stupid excuses like I did in my previous posts.
Now fuck off vatnik.
you are a piece of work aren't you lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
>muh genocide in the Donbass!
Press ganging every male above 16 in a region isn't a genocide?
1 year ago
Anonymous
who said anything about genocide?
>Foreign observers were allowed and they documented that 15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years.
>During the entire conflict period, from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021, OHCHR (UN) recorded a total of 3,106 conflict-related civilian deaths (not including MH17, 298)
Vatniks lie through their fucking teeth
>mining areas occupied by enemy military forces is Le Bad
Vatnik whining truly knows no bounds.
Why are you lying, vatmoron? UN observers were denied at every turn. Not a single independent and objective observer documented any of your mythical 15k civilian deaths.
Literally have a nice day, vatmoron.
Lies, lies, lies and even more lies on top of other lies. I see you are learning from Big Monke.
damn you people are insane
1 year ago
Anonymous
>lie >get called on >huh, you are all insane
Just fuck off already.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>muh Russian systematic ordered rape
Ukraine fired their human rights chief for spreading that and other bullshit back at the start of June you absolute chump.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Foreign observers were allowed and they documented that 15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years.
>During the entire conflict period, from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021, OHCHR (UN) recorded a total of 3,106 conflict-related civilian deaths (not including MH17, 298)
Vatniks lie through their fucking teeth
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why are you lying, vatmoron? UN observers were denied at every turn. Not a single independent and objective observer documented any of your mythical 15k civilian deaths.
Literally have a nice day, vatmoron.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lies, lies, lies and even more lies on top of other lies. I see you are learning from Big Monke.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years
Where did you get such numbers could I get a source?
Here is mine https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293409/civilian-deaths-related-to-russia-ukraine-conflict/
1 year ago
Anonymous
>statista
also >source?!!?
said like a true you know what
>lie >get called on >huh, you are all insane
Just fuck off already.
calm down
1 year ago
Anonymous
So source is: believe me bro
Much obliged
1 year ago
Anonymous
If the most American organization (the UN) admits that 5k civilians were killed by Ukrainian shelling before 2022, you automatically know that those numbers are at least 3 times higher.
Btw answer me this with yes or no >Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>American organization (the UN)
LMAO
>Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
Yes
But didn't those people startet throwing molotovs at said "nazis" first? And then baricaded themself inside said building?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>But didn't those people startet throwing molotovs at said "nazis" first?
No.
They were trying to save their lives from the nazi mob that rules with Ukraine
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Russia did nothing wrong
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27275383
1 year ago
Anonymous
you are not even trying at this point lmao
cmon you can do better i believe in you
1 year ago
Anonymous
>initiate violence by shooting guns at peaceful demonstrations >declare yourself a victim trying to save yourself after you barricade yourself in building and accidentally set it on fire because you're retard who can't handle molotov
1 year ago
Anonymous
See, that's why people despise you. Even in such an easy task as having just a normal discussion about things you brought up, you start in this same moment act like a literal degenerate. But I guess that's what you get when you are indoctrinated for a hundred years .
its literally an article from the BBC why the fuck would you post that shit and act as if its relevant
i guess an article from whatever the most popular russian media outlet is where it says that the US funded biolabs with corona and monkeypox in Ukraine should be taken as an undeniable fact because well there's an article about it
https://i.imgur.com/Un2ZbJK.jpg
Mercenary subhumans? Come on. You should not talk like that about close friends of Big Monke.
when i was posting monke images on /int/ you didn't even know that there was a conflict in Donbass
1 year ago
Anonymous
so to you BBC is as reliable as Russia Today?
1 year ago
Anonymous
as reliable as in don't trust either
why is this surprising to you?
1 year ago
Anonymous
then who do we trust? what your dreams said? what your feelings feel?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>what your feelings feel?
why wouldn't you trust this
btw you and
BBC was one of the only western media outlets to post Ukrainian war crime articles, so yes? I trust them more than I trust RT lol.
cant be serious with this BBC thing lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
Answer the question, who do we trust. Or listen to. As the other guy said, the BBC did articles on Ukrainian war crimes, meaning they weren't being biased. That is infinitely more trustworthy than RT or whatever.
If your answer is >TRUST NOBODY!
Then why do I trust you to tell me what I should trust? You've not given me any 'legit' sources which totally don't hide the truth.
1 year ago
Anonymous
it doesn't matter what i say because you have already made up your mind and won't accept anything i say
the fact that you even tried to defend the BBC says enough about your mental capacity
1 year ago
Anonymous
I am very demoralized now bros... this very smart and informed anon has given up on us...
1 year ago
Anonymous
how did you even come to this conclusion after reading the post? just how dumb are you lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
k archive Donbas until 1.1.2022 results 415
k archive Ukraine until 1.1.2022 results 42867
Really unknown subject on k
1 year ago
Anonymous
exactly
no wonder there are newfags here who unironically post BBC articles lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/ukraine/end/2022-1-1/page/15/
Maybey I didn't express myself correctly it's before 1.1.2022
1 year ago
Anonymous
I did say Donbass specifically, 415 mentions is nothing.
Ukraine is a broader subject. You have Crimea, Maidan, discussion about their army and equipment power level, overall politics and shit like that on top of the war in Donbass
1 year ago
Anonymous
So is 3800 mentions since 1.1 compared to 119249
1 year ago
Anonymous
BBC was one of the only western media outlets to post Ukrainian war crime articles, so yes? I trust them more than I trust RT lol.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Maybe because everyone called it the Clankening (and other variations) you utter newfag
1 year ago
Anonymous
>just name every single variation you know about dondbabwe
Utterly retarded
1 year ago
Anonymous
You have there literally videos from that day. Retard.
1 year ago
Anonymous
See, that's why people despise you. Even in such an easy task as having just a normal discussion about things you brought up, you start in this same moment act like a literal degenerate. But I guess that's what you get when you are indoctrinated for a hundred years .
1 year ago
Anonymous
Imagine crying about nazis on PrepHole
You are in the wrong place, and i recommend that you leave.
1 year ago
Anonymous
clicked on the thread because it was on the frontpage, idk what kind of place its since i don't browse it, weapons and wars are for retards
but i was under the impression that this is a board for trannies that love guns, didn't know you were nazi lovers as well kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hating Russia doesn't make one a nazi.
1 year ago
Anonymous
but having nazi tattoos, forming paramilitary groups with nazi slogans and emblems, burning innocent people alive, etc, does make you a nazi
1 year ago
Anonymous
So DNR army are nazis? Wagner group are nazis? Good to know.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>DNR army are nazis?
wtf are you talking about? seriously get help >Wagner group are nazis?
mercenary subhumans
1 year ago
Anonymous
Mercenary subhumans? Come on. You should not talk like that about close friends of Big Monke.
1 year ago
Anonymous
DNR has a lot of neo nazi groups, which made the fight over mariupol so fucking hilarious.
1 year ago
Anonymous
russia has far more nazi like characteristics than ukeaine. it's like ukraine put 1 skill point in nazism and russia put 15 skill points in nazism.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>bydlo >innocent
Good joke.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Clearly the DPR is in on the conspiracy to cover up the 20,000 deaths in the Donbas region, because their own reports show only a handful of deaths per year. The efforts by the State Department to cover up the 30,000 ethnic Russian children killed goes deep indeed!
https://ombudsman-dnr.ru/doklad-upolnomochennogo-po-pravam-cheloveka-v-donetskoy-narodnoy-respublike/
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
And again, that's truly awful, but those are rookie numbers m8 - bucha is up around 500 civillians killed by Russians, many tortured prior to being shot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>people
vatmorons
1 year ago
Anonymous
Come back when your handlers teach you some better tricks.
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/mhGcalE.png
Clearly the DPR is in on the conspiracy to cover up the 20,000 deaths in the Donbas region, because their own reports show only a handful of deaths per year. The efforts by the State Department to cover up the 30,000 ethnic Russian children killed goes deep indeed!
https://ombudsman-dnr.ru/doklad-upolnomochennogo-po-pravam-cheloveka-v-donetskoy-narodnoy-respublike/
Even the separatists think vatniks are full of shit.
tl;dr for those who can't read Russian and are too lazy to machine translate" >guy is unhappy with Russian support since 2014 >feels betrayed by Minsk agreement being "imposed" on them >says he's going to gather the boys and storm Kremlin if there is another truce >says "intensified shelling" of Donbass is a lie, it didn't happen neither in February, nor for the first two months of the war due to hohols "lacking strength"
No wonder so many separatist military leaders fall victim to "friendly fire" or "hohol terror acts".
1 year ago
Anonymous
Separatists are fucking retarded holy shit, Monke send them lifeline by Minsk agreement and Russian real army but this moron pretends separatists were HELD BACK?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>15k civillians
Over how many years was that, 7 ? Russia killed way over 10 000 in Mariupol alone in a couple of months.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Russia killed way over 10 000 in Mariupol alone in a couple of months.
In a state of war and full on invasion.
Also I'm not sure the people from Mariupol would agree with you that it was Russia that killed their relatives and neighbors when 95% of them voted to join Donbass back in 2014.
And every interview you see with a citizen from Mariupol they shit on the ukrainians for using them as a human shield
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
Does anyone have the original source for this?
1 year ago
Anonymous
In upper left corner is logo of radio free europe so I guess it's them
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And every interview you see with a citizen from Mariupol
is there any telegram channel for good stuff western media tries to bury?
1 year ago
Anonymous
i don't use telegram idk just youtube
1 year ago
Anonymous
>youtube
lmao, youtube has guys saying this war is all going to plan for Russia and has hundreds of comments from people agreeing with it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah and it also has videos of apparent 2k russian tanks destroyed and that ukraine is doing a counter offense on Kherson...
there are also flat earthers and vaccine supporters, you can find any kind of freaks
1 year ago
Anonymous
Some more recent numbers point towards 68 000 people dead. Based on the amount of burial requests.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>mining areas occupied by enemy military forces is Le Bad
They claimed to take Pisky like two weeks ago and boasted how it was a turning point in the whole Donbass area for some reason. It turns out Ukies are still entrenched in the northen part to this day.
I would like to also remind everyone that it's a village literally on the suburbs of the Donetsk city just 1 (one) km from away from the infamous Donetsk airport and Donbabweans were unable to take it for 6 (six) months so far.
They’re going to do EXACTLY what they’re been doing for the last 4 months: arty the shit out of it until the defenders can’t take it any more and leave. They’ll take the village and move on to the next while you trash cope with memes and the echo chamber as usual. Aren’t you tired of it?
Have you noticed that the settlements Russia "arty the shit out of" have been getting progressively smaller? Every one else has. It's almost as if their capacity for sustained indiscriminate bombardments is getting rather thin. I wonder why that could be?
Yes, but after watching the hohol idiots get slaughtered, the US made them break up. They can't be massacred en masse now, but the glorious Kherson offensive will have to wait, 'til 2045 or so.
>Russia is so strong it will hold a small Ukrainian city for perhaps even 20 years!
These new expectations the Russians have adapted to are great. Six months and they already agree they're about even with or maybe slightly weaker than the poorest country in Europe. Putin's new world order is going great.
What kind of military genius ordered them to form this kind of column and stand still in the open field? They really want to get rektd by HIMARS or some other long range weapon it seems.
not that anon, but my impression about russia's military changed a lot since this war. I was actually a fan of their stuff, and thought they were better than the west stuff. I was so fucking wrong and I felt bad about being aretard for years
They are probably very far away from actual frontline. Preparing for another URAAAAAAAAA charge into minefields and losing 90% of tanks and crews like their attacks in Donbass
i really hope we eventually get to see some of the fortifications that were built there. considering how much the russians have thrown at that place for so little gain it must look like the fucking Maginot.
unless of course all this talk of pisky being some kind of superfortress is bullshit, in which case that would mean the russians are just retarded, but theres no way thats possible right?
What's even left in there at this point?
Well he's not wrong. Russia squandered the opportunity to pull off shock and awe in the first days of the war because they thought this would be like the USSR in czechoslovakia and tried to win the hearts and minds of the population. Now that they know it's a real war they are launching everything they have, to little effect since the ukies are ready for it
Man good old Wargame. It felt preddy good when you actually managed to pull off the VDV move
crush the communists
Vatnik, the Russians were launching unguided munitions the entire war and launching cruise missiles at apartments days in. Once they realized the only people in Ukraine who wanted their corruption were in Crimea and the bydlo republics, they resorted to what they did in Chechnya and Syria. Also, I'm not sure how the U.S. supposedly spams missiles for 4 weeks when Baghdad fell in 3 weeks from the start of the war.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-26/frightening-moment-a-missile-hit-a-residential-building-in-kyiv/100864932
this is accurate though, in Russian surgery the operating doctor begins by getting drunk and randomly stabbing the patient all over the body before the very special operation can commence.
Delay fuses. They need more penetration.
Tac nuke.
Tiktac nukes
>muh NOOOOOKS
use one and even your pimp Xi will help the West turn your country into an irradiated crater
but anon Pesky is 4 miles from Donetsk, wouldn't that also destroy most of...
oh right no yeah I agree, nuke that bitch
Looking at how those people are treated and equiped by the ruskies, I wouldn't even be surprised if that was acceptable collateral damage to them.
it's crazy cause vatnik twitter shills how the UA "volksturm" keep getting captured and then they cant take the fucking village that they've erased with TOS and 152 the entire time.
Pisky offensive was just a fient , the village has been given back to Ukraine as a gesture of good will. The real goal was the village's Eastern outhouse, so the Russians could start shitting in private.
>how will Russians take Mariupol
>how will Russians take Popasna
>how will Russians take Severodonetsk
seeing a pattern yet?
That cities bleed russia dry i dont think they have manpower to take another mid size city
So what you’re saying is two more months and mighty russia will take the metropolis that is the rubbles of the village Pisky?
>how will Russians take Kiev
>how will Russians take Odessa
>how will Russians take Kharkov
I'm not saying Russians won't capture Pisky, but you have gone from capturing the enemy capital in a week to fighting for a month over an irrelevant village that nobody lives in and is on the border of Donetsk
That’s because Russia went from fighting Ukraine to fighting NATO American special forces
>Russians would rather tell themselves that NATO is intervening directly in Ukraine and Monke can do nothing about it than admit that the strong Russian bear has been reduced to WW1 warfare by a country they consider beneath them.
NATO troops are actually in your house right now. But if anyone asks you didn't hear that from me...
I want to cuddle with my own nato SoF tonight :3
same 🙂
And they Russia has yet to kill a single NATO soldier lmao
Where is the evidence
>Russian casualties: over 40k
>NATO: Has not arrived yet
Notice how the cities get progressively smaller and it takes longer for Russia to capture them?
The vatnik fears the fish village (population 6)
I've seen conflicting figures about that, from 9 people to 0
There were 9 people in 2019 year population census, but they moved on once all this started
>seeing a pattern yet?
Each one took an exponentially longer time to take while also being smaller than the previous place?
So, in two months or so after capturing Pisky, they're gonna spend the rest of the year capturing some dude's back yard?
It's over, hohols
The protein is folding
The electron is spinning
>seeing a pattern yet?
Yeah.
1. Spend thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment to take a small town.
2. Realise that there's a 100 more of those to take.
3. Realise you just wasted 3 month on a 3km advance.
The thing is they have over a million soldiers, more equipment than all of NATO combined and give a fuck about mass casulaties so can take Ukraine a piecemeal. Remember that USA is so scared of Russian nuclear might tha they still refuse to provide ATACMS.
>more equipment than all of NATO combined
LMAO, suuure. If you count all the rusted-out wrecks in the ass-end of Siberia perhaps.
Well, guess what? At the current rate? No, they won't take Ukraine piecemeal. Becuase at the current rate, the Ukrainians will have exterminated every single last military-age male Russian alive before then. And good fucking luck trying to "not give a fuck about mass casualties" when it's literally your entire army and every able-bodied conscript avaiable to you that's become mass casualties.
Remember that outside delusional vatmoron propaganda the USA are so "scared" that they've literally written into law that they will provide effectively infinite weapons and funding to the Ukrainians for the duration of this war, no matter if it will take months or decades to end it.
LMAO. Just like their vapourware Armata, their vapourware SU-57, their dozens upon dozens of vapourware warships, all their vapourware superweapons etc.
The only thing Russia ususally finishes when it comes to miltiary prototypes is their propaganda campaigns to hype them up.
>Becuase at the current rate, the Ukrainians will have exterminated every single last military-age male Russian alive before then.
More like Russians will exterminate all Ukrainian fighting age males because they have much bigger population, stronger firepower and Ukrainian demographics are even shitter than Russian with the majority of population being old people.
Well, they couldn't be reasoned with, so now they get plan B.
cool story bro
>. Just like their vapourware Armata, their vapourware SU-57
Not vaporware. They will produce them when the time is right now they have more pressing expenditures.
You are joking right? I’m assuming you are a troll and not a vatnog but if you are…
The best time to build wunderwaffles was a decade ago, the other best time would be now, when you are at war. But you won’t because Russians fail at everything save the suffering they cause themselves.
They prioritize nuclear wunderwaffes. They already produce Su-57 and Armata is too expensive to waste it in Ukraine. It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe.
those dead paratroopers really jogging your nogging eh mr.shitskin? or was it the bridge massacre? or still mourning planes in crimea? or dugin's whore? damn. it's getting harder and harder to guess what vatmorons cry over these days. i miss simple times when it was clear the tears were about moskva or pontoons. now so much awful shit is happening to rusgays it's impossible to know what the shilling is all about.
>They prioritize nuclear wunderwaffes
They have enough of those already built. Focussing on making more nukes or nuke delivery vehicles over making things like modern jets and modern tanks would betray an absolute brainlet level of priority allocation
>It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe
>They already produce Su-57 and Armata is too expensive to waste it in Ukraine.
To waste? Not a lot of confidence in your army.
>It will be ready when Russia is prepared to destroy NATO conquer Europe.
You just said it couldn't survive Ukraine but it'll take on F-22;'s and F-35's. lol
>The thing is they have over a million soldiers
The thing is they don't. They're offering prisoners shortened sentences by sending them straight to the front.
>The thing is they have over a million soldiers
And what fine soldiers they are!
they look like a bunch of homeless bums of the streets of Moscow
Russia has mobilized its reserves in full, which ammounts to a little over 2 million personnel, at least officially.
Also officially, less than 500k of that is "soldiers".
During peacetime, Russia has roughly 1 million armed forces personnel. And again, only ~300k of that is "soldiers".
I love how the Russians have somehow resorted to WWI tactics and strategy in the Year of Our Lord 2022.
So close yet so far.
>spend months bleeding themselves dry only to finally take ruins after Ukies pull out
Yup
>how will Russians take Popasna
>how will Russians take Severodonetsk
I barely remember those being mentioned at all actually?
wow fucking awesome, 6 months you took Pospana (where the fuck is this shit) and Severcuntwhatthefuck, you must be so proud of yourself, Russian army
So another month or so for 1 village?
>how will Russians take Mariupol (population: 400k)
>how will Russians take Severodonetsk (population: 100k)
>how will Russians take Popasna ( population: 10k)
>how will Russians take Pisky (population: 0)
>seeing a pattern yet?
Huh, I wonder what this pattern must be?
Yes, Russians will take Piskpopsivichol (population: -10,000), and will be annihilated by anti-slavs.
The other pattern is that 90% of the population and buildings were gone by the time they took those.
The new pattern will be killing their own "russian" civilians in occupied areas and claiming victory
At what cost?
>Ukraine can easily replace tens of thousands killed and maimed
Literally how, do you honestly think it is 1914 and you can just draft a million men into the front?
>Literally how, do you honestly think it is 1914 and you can just draft a million men into the front?
Russia can do it but they are winning anyway so no reason to do it for now.
You forgot about Kiev.
In two months Russia will have to do another "tactical pause" and bleed manpower and vehicles like crazy? If Russia keeps winning victories like this, there won't be a Russia left at the end of this war.
>how will Russians take Mariupol?
I never saw anyone saying this, I saw people mocking how long it was taking (Even British intelligence thought it was days from collapse in April), but nobody seriously suggesting they wouldn’t take Mariupol.
Congratulations, they might have taken 5 houses and some chicken sheds to plunder. They shan‘t forget the washing machines
/k/ope
Zeethe
It’s a pity the R in HARM is radiation and not retardation because if it was you wouldn’t be around to post.
Post toilet seats
>Pisky is confirmed 100% in Russian control.
Forgive my skepticism but they’ve said that before
It's been confirmed to be 100% taken 8 times already. You must forgive my scepticism.
800% TAKEN, THE GLORY OF RUSSIA IS UNHEARD OF!!!
>village of 8 people
Next they will spend half a year to capture a playhouse right next to border
It will soon fall, just like Siversk, which the anti-fascists of the DPR confirmed to be liberated in early July.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50501241
How will Pootin manage Mother Russias’ toilet seat shortage ?
They will just steal more from Ukraine.
Didn’t Georgians report that Russians were stealing washing machines during their war?
Yea because washing machines are a strategically important asset, so Babuschka at home can instead spend her time waiting in line and buying Troja toilet cleaner for her sons to get drunk.
At worst, Russia will reach Slavyansk-Kramatorsk, and that is an entirely different beast compared to Pisky or Bakhmut.
Thing is, back in March the general consensus was that Kramatorsk/Sloviansk line would end up being the Ukies primary line of defence in Donbass and the Russians would push them there by the end of the month, mid April at the latest. It is now the end of August...
Even the biggest NATO shills like ISW thought the Russians would be fighting over Slavyansk-Kramatorsk by mid July.
Nobody expected Russians to be this depleted AND send all their capable troops to fight off a nonexistent counteroffensive.
Guess that's why they're hammering not losing kherson and desperately trying to make it into a propaganda victory, it's their main operation right now.
>Kiev was a feint
>100% losses of VDV battalions was feint
>Kherson non-counteroffensive was not a feint
DPA reported they already did, they hit it with the TOS-1 and walked in.
>and walked in
may I see it?
No
Speaking of.... Did the TOS-1 prove to be another useless wunderwaffe? The only reports I've seen of them being in the war was when they were abandooned during the first few weeks. I suppose it's short range and tank chassis makes it incompatible with Russian "logistics"
it proved to be great propaganda tool to inflate Russian kill count
>lob in general direction of enemy
>declare several hundred dead because TOS killed everyone that "was" there
The TOS is what they pretend HIMARS is like.
>The TOS is what they pretend HIMARS is like.
TOS is completely different. It's a short-range mass destruction weapon. for destroying cities and trenches
GMLRS can be used for those purposes, far more effectively and at longer ranges. If you're willing to spare the cases that is
>5 of 6 craters evenly spaced and perfectly targeted on a trench line
>1 of 6 just sort of chilling off to the side
Pretty sure thats just them hitting the corner.
God i fucking love the western MIC and its products.
I will never shittalk the US MIC again.
Thats fucking outrageous.
Made it back to port under its own power!
Christ
>GMLRS can be used for those purposes, far more effectively and at longer ranges. If you're willing to spare the cases that is
HIMARS can makes a few small craters, TOS kills everything in a few hundred meters.
>TOS kills everything in a few hundred meters.
Hilarious joke. Unironically the TOS-1 is ultimately a wunderwaffe that finds more use in media than in actual combat.
You wouldn't be saying that when a few cases of GMLRS AW hit your trench with pinpoint accuracy. The tens of thousands of tungsten projectiles in each warhead turning its inhabitants into red mist.
The TOS-1 is unguided (also inaccurate), short ranged, and highly vulnerable to counter battery fire. Its basically a glorified, factory made, thermobaric IRAM.
>smartest russian
Isn't the whole point of TOS-1 to be a terror weapon for sieges anyway? Based on what I've read about it it was designed to flatten disobedient cities rather than fulfilling a battlefield purpose and would be useless in a shooting war with NATO.
>Slow, heavy steel can stuffed full of incredibly powerful bombs
>Short range so has to get close to the front lines
>In a war famous for ambushes
>Against an enemy armed with tens of thousands of the most advanced AA systems
I would desert faster than you could say "20% of Russia's population doesn't have indoor plumbing"
>the most advanced AA systems
I meant AT systems*
Should definitely be turned into a UGV
>I would desert faster than you could say "20% of Russia's population doesn't have indoor plumbing"
This dude gets it
The guys that served on similar shit basically told me they would ABANDOOON the first sign of shit getting dicey
No, it's a useful weapon. Short range massive HE rocket barrages are a successful weapon dating back to WW2, despite being re-forgotten after each war because they're unglamorous and simplistic.
It's simply that the short range and psychological effects make it an easy to hit priority target so few survived the initial months.
Thermobarics are massively overhyped like every other Russian wunderwaffe.
They serve a niche of killing infantry holed up in residential buildings without having to siege them.
This was mostly a response to Chechnya and the follow up wave of terrorist cells popping up.
Making rocket artillery but WOW THERMOBARIC no longer fills that niche, and is actually inferior in almost all relevant metrics to regular rocket artillery.
So yes, it's a meme weapon.
But when the US Air Force did it obviously it was fucking perfect in every regard with no counter whatsoever.
These posts proliferate on this board like mould.
>I thought Russian weapons were made of pure magic
Then you're an idiot
>but now I realize that that they're completely harmless and don't do anything at all
And you still are.
ENTER!
Is the range still 6km?
>Soviet union produces absurd amounts of prototype shit on top of its serial production
>Russian federation loses the capability to produce meaningful amounts of armor or aircraft
>keeps the absurd amounts prototype shit
It fucks me up how this was enough to convince half the world that they're still a global military power.
Then again, some people still think that six months into their blyatzkrieg into a neighboring country with the GDP of fucking Kuwait.
>keeps the absurd amounts prototype shit
Unlike USA, they usualy finish their prototypes sooner or later like this one
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-is-working-on-a-new-anti-ship-ballistic-missile-report
>Unlike the USA
Anon stop making me laugh
Pic unrelated
USA cancels majority of its research programs. Russians eventually finish their shit even if sometimes they have to suspend programs due to lack of money.
lol holy shit you fuckers are beyond saving, i feel sorry for your parents if you're an actual westerner
>Su-57
>introduced 2020
>16 built (10 prototypes, 6 serial, of which one ate shit)
>F-35
>introduced 2015
>825+ built
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
When are they finishing this guy? Or is this the end product?
It makes sense when you realize the projects have the primary function of embezzling money.
>Speaking of.... Did the TOS-1 prove to be another useless wunderwaffe?
Maybe you should ask the mounds of burnt okrainian corpses.
>wunderwaffe
useful for destroying civilian apartment buildings and shopping centers
>Speaking of.... Did the TOS-1 prove to be another useless wunderwaffe? The only reports I've seen of them being in the war was when they were abandooned during the first few weeks. I suppose it's short range and tank chassis makes it incompatible with Russian "logistics"
It's wiping cities and soldiers in trenches just fine.
Why don't you go to Ukraine and tell us all what it's like to be on the receiving end of one?
Based. HIMARS have actually proven to be wunderwaffe just like the M777 and shitty US suicide drones. TOS1 are unironically superior in every way.
Neither HIMARS nor TOS are wunderwaffe.
/k/ope
since they are still holding Pisky...it's nothing scary
iirc that wasnt a TOS-1, it was a de-mining vehicle being used like a sturmtiger.
It doesn’t not have a turret, so it is not capable of tactical turret ejecting, therefore it’s useless.
I've got it...
The Piss Key...
I mean, this is truly ripe for
>we don't NEED Pisky
Sometimes you just gotta take a step back and think about how insanely inadequate the forces at play are. Donetsk is the capital of one of the two separatist republics, has been for 8 years, and they have the full backing of the Russian Army. Yet we're half a year into this war and they still haven't taken a village sitting on the plains, less than 10 kms from Donetsk city proper. If the UA political leadership wasn't completely retarded even Lyschansk may still be Ukrainian, amazing.
It's 10km to the city centre. But Pisky borders Donetsk, it's right there.
In 2014 they couldn't take the Donetsk airport for 5 month, and only did it by the way of levelling it to the ground. And back then we didn't even have a real army.
>If the UA political leadership wasn't completely retarded even Lyschansk may still be Ukrainian, amazing
Ukraine didn't have HIMARS then so Russian artillery worked 60000 shells a day, even if Ukraine didn't hold Severodonetsk(which Russians paid in blood for every inch), they'd have to abandon Lysychansk anyway but with lower Russian losses
Severo was a mistake and no, the Russian casualties don't make up for it. Any casualties the Russians suffered at Severo they would've suffered the same and more at Lysychansk with Ukraine also holding onto Luhansk longer with the option to withdraw more efficiently when the time inevitably comes.
>would've suffered the same and more at Lysychansk
there would be no fighting in Lysychansk anyway, if they just took troops in Severodonetsk and send them to Popasna they'd use them to go around Lysychansk, not fighting in Lysychansk
Pisky is a great citadel from the time of Olga of kiev, if it falls all ukraine will be wide open for steiner's counter attack.
"Kirov Reporting"
>piss key
makes me wonder if there are american towns or cities which sound like stupid vulgar shit in other languages.
There are American towns that sound like stupid vulgar shit in English.
And some people have lists lists of towns that sound funny in other languages:
https://matadornetwork.com/read/us-cities-translate-hilariously/
I assume most of these places are on the same level as Pisky, because Cape Cod (Cape Norwegian Penis) is the only one I've ever heard of.
does ukraine still pretend they did not lose than place weeks ago and lost like 500 people while at it?
Apparently yes.
Except even Russia keeps saying they're trying to take it despite supposedly taking it weeks ago.
Are you saying the Russians are now bombing a village they supposedly captured weeks ago and killing their own forces?
>Are you saying the Russians are now bombing a village they supposedly captured weeks ago and killing their own forces?
tbh that sounds like something Russia would do
Where are they saying they're attacking it?
then why does Russia keep saying they're attacking it and making progress and showing videos of them attacking it? See
Are they just attacking it because they can't attack anything else and need to show they are doing something?
Haven't been following the war for a week or two but didn't they take Pesky in early August?
Are you maybe confusing it with Avdeevka?
>but didn't they take Pesky in early August?
>Are you maybe confusing it with Avdeevka?
they didn't took either
I didn't say anything about Avdeevka being taken just asking if OP is confusing them since its a heavily fortified place like Peski
No matter how fortified these places are its embarrassing that the Russians still allow Ukrainians to shell innocent civilians in Donetsk from these places.
Especially because a place like Peski has no civilians anymore and its only military personnel and equipment. What's stopping them from carpet bombing this village besides incompetence?
>What's stopping them from carpet bombing this village
But they did that some time ago. Still were unable to advance.
>innocent civilians in Donetsk
Haha. Good one.
>Haha. Good one.
wtf is wrong with you???
What's wrong with me? What do you mean? All targets hit by AFU in the Donetsk were military ones. Same as when Russians bombed those schools, shopping malls, thaters and hospitals. All valid military targets full of soldiers, remeber?
yeah they are bombing military targets by shelling residential buildings and throwing dozens of mines on every street
Those residental buildings are packed with Russian soldiers. So they are valid targets.
you are mentally ill
Why? You can't prove there weren't Russian soldiers there when those building were hit. And generally Ukraine is conducting methodical and surgical approach in this special military operation so there's no need to worry about civilians.
see
also i like how you ignored the mines thing
But that would mean Russian military leadership is also mentally ill.
Well of course they are mentally ill since they allow civilians in Dotensk to be shelled by the Ukrainians
No, they are mentally ill becasue they deliberately shell Ukrianian civilans and then use bullshit stupid excuses like I did in my previous posts.
Now fuck off vatnik.
>For 8 years Russia, Luganda, and Dombabwe have claimed that they Ukrainians have been committing atrocities against them
>For 8 years the UN has offered to send observers to document these atrocites
>For 8 years Russia, Luganda, and Dombabwe have said no
Really makes you think.
Why are you lying? Foreign observers were allowed and they documented that 15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years.
Also lets not forget that they literally burned people alive in a building in Odessa
you are a piece of work aren't you lol
>muh genocide in the Donbass!
Press ganging every male above 16 in a region isn't a genocide?
who said anything about genocide?
damn you people are insane
>lie
>get called on
>huh, you are all insane
Just fuck off already.
>muh Russian systematic ordered rape
Ukraine fired their human rights chief for spreading that and other bullshit back at the start of June you absolute chump.
>Foreign observers were allowed and they documented that 15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years.
>During the entire conflict period, from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021, OHCHR (UN) recorded a total of 3,106 conflict-related civilian deaths (not including MH17, 298)
Vatniks lie through their fucking teeth
Why are you lying, vatmoron? UN observers were denied at every turn. Not a single independent and objective observer documented any of your mythical 15k civilian deaths.
Literally have a nice day, vatmoron.
Lies, lies, lies and even more lies on top of other lies. I see you are learning from Big Monke.
>15k civilians died as a result of Ukrainian aggression in Donbass over the years
Where did you get such numbers could I get a source?
Here is mine https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293409/civilian-deaths-related-to-russia-ukraine-conflict/
>statista
also
>source?!!?
said like a true you know what
calm down
So source is: believe me bro
Much obliged
If the most American organization (the UN) admits that 5k civilians were killed by Ukrainian shelling before 2022, you automatically know that those numbers are at least 3 times higher.
Btw answer me this with yes or no
>Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
>American organization (the UN)
LMAO
>Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
Yes
But didn't those people startet throwing molotovs at said "nazis" first? And then baricaded themself inside said building?
>But didn't those people startet throwing molotovs at said "nazis" first?
No.
They were trying to save their lives from the nazi mob that rules with Ukraine
>Russia did nothing wrong
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27275383
you are not even trying at this point lmao
cmon you can do better i believe in you
>initiate violence by shooting guns at peaceful demonstrations
>declare yourself a victim trying to save yourself after you barricade yourself in building and accidentally set it on fire because you're retard who can't handle molotov
its literally an article from the BBC why the fuck would you post that shit and act as if its relevant
i guess an article from whatever the most popular russian media outlet is where it says that the US funded biolabs with corona and monkeypox in Ukraine should be taken as an undeniable fact because well there's an article about it
when i was posting monke images on /int/ you didn't even know that there was a conflict in Donbass
so to you BBC is as reliable as Russia Today?
as reliable as in don't trust either
why is this surprising to you?
then who do we trust? what your dreams said? what your feelings feel?
>what your feelings feel?
why wouldn't you trust this
btw you and
cant be serious with this BBC thing lol
Answer the question, who do we trust. Or listen to. As the other guy said, the BBC did articles on Ukrainian war crimes, meaning they weren't being biased. That is infinitely more trustworthy than RT or whatever.
If your answer is
>TRUST NOBODY!
Then why do I trust you to tell me what I should trust? You've not given me any 'legit' sources which totally don't hide the truth.
it doesn't matter what i say because you have already made up your mind and won't accept anything i say
the fact that you even tried to defend the BBC says enough about your mental capacity
I am very demoralized now bros... this very smart and informed anon has given up on us...
how did you even come to this conclusion after reading the post? just how dumb are you lmao
k archive Donbas until 1.1.2022 results 415
k archive Ukraine until 1.1.2022 results 42867
Really unknown subject on k
exactly
no wonder there are newfags here who unironically post BBC articles lmao
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/ukraine/end/2022-1-1/page/15/
Maybey I didn't express myself correctly it's before 1.1.2022
I did say Donbass specifically, 415 mentions is nothing.
Ukraine is a broader subject. You have Crimea, Maidan, discussion about their army and equipment power level, overall politics and shit like that on top of the war in Donbass
So is 3800 mentions since 1.1 compared to 119249
BBC was one of the only western media outlets to post Ukrainian war crime articles, so yes? I trust them more than I trust RT lol.
Maybe because everyone called it the Clankening (and other variations) you utter newfag
>just name every single variation you know about dondbabwe
Utterly retarded
You have there literally videos from that day. Retard.
See, that's why people despise you. Even in such an easy task as having just a normal discussion about things you brought up, you start in this same moment act like a literal degenerate. But I guess that's what you get when you are indoctrinated for a hundred years .
Imagine crying about nazis on PrepHole
You are in the wrong place, and i recommend that you leave.
clicked on the thread because it was on the frontpage, idk what kind of place its since i don't browse it, weapons and wars are for retards
but i was under the impression that this is a board for trannies that love guns, didn't know you were nazi lovers as well kek
Hating Russia doesn't make one a nazi.
but having nazi tattoos, forming paramilitary groups with nazi slogans and emblems, burning innocent people alive, etc, does make you a nazi
So DNR army are nazis? Wagner group are nazis? Good to know.
>DNR army are nazis?
wtf are you talking about? seriously get help
>Wagner group are nazis?
mercenary subhumans
Mercenary subhumans? Come on. You should not talk like that about close friends of Big Monke.
DNR has a lot of neo nazi groups, which made the fight over mariupol so fucking hilarious.
russia has far more nazi like characteristics than ukeaine. it's like ukraine put 1 skill point in nazism and russia put 15 skill points in nazism.
>bydlo
>innocent
Good joke.
Clearly the DPR is in on the conspiracy to cover up the 20,000 deaths in the Donbas region, because their own reports show only a handful of deaths per year. The efforts by the State Department to cover up the 30,000 ethnic Russian children killed goes deep indeed!
https://ombudsman-dnr.ru/doklad-upolnomochennogo-po-pravam-cheloveka-v-donetskoy-narodnoy-respublike/
>Did the nazis in Odessa burn a dozen people alive in 2014?
And again, that's truly awful, but those are rookie numbers m8 - bucha is up around 500 civillians killed by Russians, many tortured prior to being shot.
>people
vatmorons
Come back when your handlers teach you some better tricks.
Even the separatists think vatniks are full of shit.
tl;dr for those who can't read Russian and are too lazy to machine translate"
>guy is unhappy with Russian support since 2014
>feels betrayed by Minsk agreement being "imposed" on them
>says he's going to gather the boys and storm Kremlin if there is another truce
>says "intensified shelling" of Donbass is a lie, it didn't happen neither in February, nor for the first two months of the war due to hohols "lacking strength"
No wonder so many separatist military leaders fall victim to "friendly fire" or "hohol terror acts".
Separatists are fucking retarded holy shit, Monke send them lifeline by Minsk agreement and Russian real army but this moron pretends separatists were HELD BACK?
>15k civillians
Over how many years was that, 7 ? Russia killed way over 10 000 in Mariupol alone in a couple of months.
>Russia killed way over 10 000 in Mariupol alone in a couple of months.
In a state of war and full on invasion.
Also I'm not sure the people from Mariupol would agree with you that it was Russia that killed their relatives and neighbors when 95% of them voted to join Donbass back in 2014.
And every interview you see with a citizen from Mariupol they shit on the ukrainians for using them as a human shield
Does anyone have the original source for this?
In upper left corner is logo of radio free europe so I guess it's them
>And every interview you see with a citizen from Mariupol
is there any telegram channel for good stuff western media tries to bury?
i don't use telegram idk just youtube
>youtube
lmao, youtube has guys saying this war is all going to plan for Russia and has hundreds of comments from people agreeing with it.
yeah and it also has videos of apparent 2k russian tanks destroyed and that ukraine is doing a counter offense on Kherson...
there are also flat earthers and vaccine supporters, you can find any kind of freaks
Some more recent numbers point towards 68 000 people dead. Based on the amount of burial requests.
>mining areas occupied by enemy military forces is Le Bad
Vatnik whining truly knows no bounds.
They claimed to take Pisky like two weeks ago and boasted how it was a turning point in the whole Donbass area for some reason. It turns out Ukies are still entrenched in the northen part to this day.
I would like to also remind everyone that it's a village literally on the suburbs of the Donetsk city just 1 (one) km from away from the infamous Donetsk airport and Donbabweans were unable to take it for 6 (six) months so far.
>/Ukraine General/
>>
They’re going to do EXACTLY what they’re been doing for the last 4 months: arty the shit out of it until the defenders can’t take it any more and leave. They’ll take the village and move on to the next while you trash cope with memes and the echo chamber as usual. Aren’t you tired of it?
Have you noticed that the settlements Russia "arty the shit out of" have been getting progressively smaller? Every one else has. It's almost as if their capacity for sustained indiscriminate bombardments is getting rather thin. I wonder why that could be?
Russia has virtually endless artillery and shells. They can do it for decades to come and produce more.
Yes, but after watching the hohol idiots get slaughtered, the US made them break up. They can't be massacred en masse now, but the glorious Kherson offensive will have to wait, 'til 2045 or so.
>Russia is so strong it will hold a small Ukrainian city for perhaps even 20 years!
These new expectations the Russians have adapted to are great. Six months and they already agree they're about even with or maybe slightly weaker than the poorest country in Europe. Putin's new world order is going great.
>last four months
Pisky is in visual range of Donetsk Airport. They've been fighting over it for eight years.
So how's the glorious Kherson offensive coming, bros?
Being prepared it looks like.
What kind of military genius ordered them to form this kind of column and stand still in the open field? They really want to get rektd by HIMARS or some other long range weapon it seems.
Maybe the okrainian capacity to strike is overestimated. Shilling here would give you that impression.
not that anon, but my impression about russia's military changed a lot since this war. I was actually a fan of their stuff, and thought they were better than the west stuff. I was so fucking wrong and I felt bad about being aretard for years
Well, nobody's fault but your own if you fall for shilling.
I have an airbase in Crimea? Cool!
Overestimated? Not long ago they erased your airbase in the fucking Crimmea. 150 km from the front.
They are probably very far away from actual frontline. Preparing for another URAAAAAAAAA charge into minefields and losing 90% of tanks and crews like their attacks in Donbass
i really hope we eventually get to see some of the fortifications that were built there. considering how much the russians have thrown at that place for so little gain it must look like the fucking Maginot.
unless of course all this talk of pisky being some kind of superfortress is bullshit, in which case that would mean the russians are just retarded, but theres no way thats possible right?
right?
No
Rest assured, Bidwell, in 20 years or so, the ravages of old age will deal with the bear far more cruelly than we ever could have.