How well would've Finland fared against Russia had it been the target of the 2022 invasion?

How well would've Finland fared against Russia had it been the target of the 2022 invasion? After all Finland has one tenth of the Ukrainian population but higher GDP and more technologically advanced armed forces.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, entire Finnish military doctrine is focused on stopping russian invasion.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's focused on making a Russian invasion too costly to maintain because of the monetary and humanitarian costs
      In light of the Russian public's absolute disregard for their losses that plan was doomed from the start

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What said.
        Finland always functioned on the idea of a credible deterrence. If Russia was dedicated (or apathetic) they could just bleed on Finland until Finland ran out of ways to kill.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What said.
        Finland always functioned on the idea of a credible deterrence. If Russia was dedicated (or apathetic) they could just bleed on Finland until Finland ran out of ways to kill.

        I never really understood why Finland didn't seek to join NATO soon after the Soviet Union fell and they were obviously in no position to invade anyone
        This very fatalistic strategy is nowhere near as compelling as just being impossible to attack without bringing the strongest alliance in history into the fight

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Finland kinda hoped that the new Russian Federation would grow to be a real country with reasonable foreign policies.
          They have to live next to Russia anyways, so it doesn't harm to have friendly (or at least decent) diplomatic relations to your neighbour.

          When Russia started the Ukrainian war, the last shreds of any illusions that Russia might still one day be a reasonable adult-like country flew out of the window. It was a stright up orkish invasion for destruction of neighbouring country and their culture. You can not expect reasonable diplomacy from such nations.

          your neighbour might be an butthole, but you still try to be civil about it. But if you realize that he actually IS an axe-murdering psychopath, you get yourself some protection. And preferrably some reliable allies.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This very fatalistic strategy is nowhere near as compelling as just being impossible to attack without bringing the strongest alliance in history into the fight

          "fatalistic resignation" is what Russia wishes countries around it assumed because if they really found out how a war would turn out you'd get Ukraine ie a clusterfrick so catastrophic no one would take them seriously from there on out. They're always doing that wizard of Oz shit trying to to come off as too strong to fail or going "WELL YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'RE CRAZY AND WILLING TO DIE".

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          because its not 1930s anymore. this country is inhabited by idiots and cowards

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Long political legacy of Finlandization that lives to this day and naivety

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think it was the wrong call to make because deterrence worked fine for Finland. Plus there was a 25-30 year period of trade that got cut short only because of sanctions, not because of Russian aggression on Finland.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nato was created for the USSR and it no longer was an entity

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because there was every indication that the Bear was dead and ready to become a responsible world partner.

          It was almost considered inevitable that the Russians would stay committed to democracy and the PRC would democratize. That's what Bush meant when he gave the New World Order speech. We had a shot at world peace and the 90s was full of that optimism.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Communist moles in the social democratic party made sure no anti-russian policy went through in the government.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because we've still got zero real issues with them. Joining NATO just because is like the French joining the Brits before 1939, and then surrendering and being cool with the armistice because they really didnt have any real beef with Germany.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because we've still got zero real issues with them

            Masks are off as Niinistö said

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        On the other hand it would be impossible to hide the war from "real" Russians due to proximity of St. Petersburg. All the barriertroops would hang around the city commiting crimes and the harbour would burn.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Ukraine has been preparing for a Russian invasion for about 5 years. Finland has been preparing for 50. They would have stacked bodies all the way to Hellsinki.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually a good point. Same with Sweden (in concept), they assume that the enemy isn't moronic and insane. Maybe we should spend some more money on intel about Russia before we start planing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which turns out to have been a mistake, since it leaves everything after they push the russians back to the border as a matter of improvisation.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon that called a victory

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to say poorly - Ukraine showed some reluctance to accept the facts on the ground, and paid for it in the early stages of the war, but at least the eastern parts were already fortified. Finland is so full of people hooked on Russian money and moronic peaceniks, they could have invaded in February and we would still only probably have adequate preparations by March

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not true, Ivanovich.
      We Finns have been itching to BTFO Ruskie fricks once more since 1945, and Ukrainians crotch-blasted Zoombies already day-1. Partially THANKS TO the Finnish training.

      Unlike Ukraine, Finland's terrain is very uneven, there's tons of woodland and masses of water everywhere, and no road is straight as an arrow for more than a km at best.
      Every bridge would've been blown up, every road boobytrapped the very minute the habbening would've started. There'd be insane amounts of arty and mortar fire in the air, globbering the Eastern front.

      Not to mention neither the Scandinavians nor the Baltics / Estonians would've stood still and silent had Pootin's tanks started rolling across the border, Finland's been part of the JEF for a while now, and EU itself has poor but still present defensive pacts.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        When I had to suffer in Rovajärvi for 2 weeks in winter, every single day was cloudy with total of 30 minutes of sunlight during those 2 weeks. Not a single time did I get to see aurora. I felt scammed.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's based on the "weather" on the Sun. Some times it is more stormy, sometimes not. I only saw the northern lights a few times dimly a few years ago in North Sweden.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whether or not Finland happens to be in NATO or has treaties with its neighbors or whatever, Western support would be immediate and drastic compared to what Ukraine got early in the conflict. The story of fierce Finnish resistance against the soviets is the kind of underdog story that fans the flames of righteous indignation of the Western mind.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ruining perfect independent defence force for sake of giving money useless immigration. Nato is pure cope and continues to globalize finland. Say hello to your new temmates named jamal, ahmed, pojeet, john and abdumillah

          Even the chinese like this underdog story

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >temmates named jamal, ahmed, pojeet, john and abdumillah

            Hello, pidor.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              where did all of those black dudes come from?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good day, Boris

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im urjo from helsinki oblast and i support this claim

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Finland is so full of people hooked on Russian money and moronic peaceniks
      have you met a native Finn? half of their identity is hating Russia so much they'd go to war with them

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Many of us have to travel to Ukraine to finally start enjoying life.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Finnish terrain is significantly more challenging than the Ukrainian one and readiness would have likely been higher on day 1.
    The amount of east-west roads crossing the border is tiny, and east-west infrastructure north of the isthmus is basically nonexistent. Imagine how well Russia's logistics would do in such an environment when they are already road- and rail-bound in Ukraine, but this time if a road is destroyed you can't just go around because it's just endless forest next to it.
    >Russia takes Joensuu, Lappeenranta and Utsjoki
    >offensive totally stalls along the Kouvola-Kotka axis

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lappeenranta
      How tf would they take utsjoki

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians wouldn't be able to reach even Hamina, the new highway would give finnish tanks like 5km of open range, where russian armor would have no cover from anything. Everything east of Hamina is a killzone, 20km long killzone.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland has only a tiny fraction of Ukraine's population. Russia would have taken much higher casualty ratios but with only Finnish manpower they wouldn't last a full year. The lack of a cold winter also would have been a huge issue if they made it that far.
    Ukraine is simply too large for Russia to defeat with the "we have more men" strategy. Works well in Georgia and Chechnya but not Ukraine.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i want a finnish twink bf to larp in the woods with

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry but that's a girl (female).

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        🙁 i want a girl(boy)friend

        Why are the manliest boards the gayest on the site

        idk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are the manliest boards the gayest on the site

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Once you reach a certain amount of manliness your Overton window shifts and women become too homosexual.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing more manly than fricking another man.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          okay sergei

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >manliest boards
        The only manly boards are PrepHole and PrepHole

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          PrepHole is manly but only because it's boomer personified

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          PrepHole is full of fricking idiots that wouldnt know how to use a hammer. Seriously they make daily threads asking how to do the make the dumbest shit that a 3rd worlder does in an hour.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >shit that a 3rd worlder does in an hour
            Usually because they had to learn how to do the stuff themselves. How many city-dwelling 1st-worlders do DIY stuff?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              1st worlders just buy nice shit to begin with. You have to be 3rd worlder levels of poor to actually do DIY stuff. The only cool diy threads are the anons that post their fricked up projects for a laugh.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You have to be 3rd worlder levels of poor to actually do DIY stuff.
                Nah, I like DIY as it's fun to make stuff yourself. Buying something when you can make it yourself is usually never the best choice, be it food or furniture

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, but /lgbt/ is pretty manly (whether they like it or not)

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          /lgbt/ is arguably the most homophobic board on the site, they take pride in being straight trannies. When they post pictures they’re all waifish little creatures rather than the chads in dresses you’d expect.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            And these same waifish little creatures complain about how they "are ugly and will never pass"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        once you hit level 2147483647 of manliness the counter goes back to 0 and thus gay.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just like Pac(k dat twink bussy)-Man!

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >still using a 32 bit gay system

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's (hopefully) sarcasm you autist
        This shits been on the Chan's for a decade.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's (hopefully) sarcasm you autist
          you wish

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dunno man, just kinda happens.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well I'm here and I regularly browse /lgbt/, so fair

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jews

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        they aren’t. most of the homosexuals on here are skinnyfat larpers, same reason there’s a ton of homos and trannies on PrepHole

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How dare these homosexuals jokingly play gay chicken
        >In my country you get fricked in the ass by straight men more powerful than you and you keep shut about it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why are men who are attracted to men attracted to manly things?
        I 'unno

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          fricking tom from Finland is the greatest

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            His clothed pinups are iconic but his porn is the least sexy thing I've seen in my life

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can thank the mulldog for keeping me informed about this depravity

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

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      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tons of gays migrated February of last year.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Endless convoys stuck on highways inside forests, if the initial zerg rush and naval landings fail then it would have bogged down like in Ukraine, except the terrain is even less traversable (woodlands). Logistics would be interesting since NATO supplies to finland would have to flow through Turku or Vaasa ports, or by road through northern Sweden which is a much worse route. On the Russian side the railroad hub in St. Petersburg is well within strike range as well.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alone? Lost in 3 days unironically.

    With NATO intervention? Russians stuck for 400 days on the highway to hell.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would there be NATO intervention in 2022?

      >Since Sweden and Finland got some sort of defense pact, F-18s and Gripens flying together.
      We don't, not sure why people think this

      Probably misrepresenting some statements about Sweden and Åland

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Would there be NATO intervention in 2022?
        Finland is not part of the NATO, so there is uncertainty with intervention but most probably NATO would.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Finland is now part of NATO.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Would there be NATO intervention in 2022?
      Finland is not part of the NATO, so there is uncertainty with intervention but most probably NATO would.

      You're forgetting Finland has had European Union security article for ages, which is worded:
      >[Article 42.7 of the Treaty on European Union:]
      >"If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. This shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States."

      Finland is in the EU and they have a common defense pact. It might take a few days of realization this shit is really happening before you have troops from the rest of the countries in Finland, and this is excluding the material aid they'd receive that would make Ukraine look like a joke.

      Finally someone says it. I mean, even without the actual EU common defense treaty, it would be quite a fricking big deal that a member state (which has shared supranational foreign policy, a shared currency, open internal borders, supranational agencies spread across all member states, common legislation and regulation, etc. etc. ad nauseam) would be attacked. A far bigger deal than Ukraine, and look where that comparative little has bought them! A country in continental periphery, with no direct bonds to the Union whatsoever!

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        (me)
        >look where
        look what*

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    We have to assume that they get the same time to prepare as Ukraine so at least a year of CIA glow worms telling everyone exactly when and what is going to happen, in greater detail than even the monke of kreml knew.
    Given the limited numbers of suitable points to cross the border, we would most likely see the same type of 40km traffic jam except this time there would be ample of GLMRS and ATACMs in place to spice things up.
    Probably vatnik casualties in the thousands during the first 24hrs.

    Since Sweden and Finland got some sort of defense pact, F-18s and Gripens flying together.
    The fighter jet shitposting would be off the charts as a result.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Since Sweden and Finland got some sort of defense pact, F-18s and Gripens flying together.
      We don't, not sure why people think this

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        A Swedish general literally blurted out couple months ago how Finland and Sweden have secret plans for Swedish mechanized forces being sent to Finland to aid in case of invasion

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Really?
        >Several Nordic countries have moved to deepen cooperation among their respective air forces to bolster the region’s defenses.
        >The primary aim of the joint declaration is to strengthen air force cooperation between the four Nordic states, precipitating concrete joint initiatives to develop a strong regional air defense.
        >“There is obvious interest in a regional initiative for a joint air command on NATO’s northern flank. We know the conditions in the High North well, and we have a lot to learn from each other. With a total of almost 250 modern combat aircraft, this will be a large combat force that must be coordinated,”
        https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/03/24/nordic-countries-move-toward-linking-their-air-forces-250-planes/

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is not a defensive pact.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Large, coordinated combat force
            >Concrete joint initiatives
            >Strong regional air defence
            >Joint air command
            >Among Nordic countries that are all either current or imminent NATO members covered by article 5
            And you think this won't mean Gripens flying with F-35s because...?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              hnnnngggg I know we have left the EU but please let us help remove borscht

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sweden and Finland cooperate on many levels militarily:
        SigInt
        This includes local and orbit
        Air defence
        Joint exercises
        Joint mine-laying strategy and exchange program
        Archipelago and naval robot collaboration.

        That's just some of it that the public are allowed to know about.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland's entire history has been the slaves of Swedechads. They didn't even escape prehistory until the 1300s.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And Finns are still forced to learn Swedish.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        taisin päästä ekalla yrityksellä läpi arvosanalla 2 kandin tokana vuonna, oli aika kauheeta mut enemmän siin mieles et se oli pakko tehdä kuin sisällön vaikeudesta

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tein etänä toisella näytöllä Google translate auki 100% ajasta
          [Pellenaama]

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Korona-aika? Ite tein sen just koronan alkamista edeltävänä syksynä, muistaakseni oli läsnäolopakko niin kuin kaikilla kielikursseilla.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tein etänä toisella näytöllä Google translate auki 100% ajasta
              [Pellenaama]

              taisin päästä ekalla yrityksellä läpi arvosanalla 2 kandin tokana vuonna, oli aika kauheeta mut enemmän siin mieles et se oli pakko tehdä kuin sisällön vaikeudesta

              Is there a more charming yet completely autistic looking language?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm fascinated by it. This is probably because I don't know the language, but I find it pleasing how well it seems to flow when spoken.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        6 years of learning and rest of my life forgetting, and i have a swedish surname

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not anymore.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      huge misrepresentation
      finns weren't segregated or maltreated, finland was just sweden with a funny language. swedish was the language of high culture. its like calling the bretons slaves to the french or some shit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just like britards were first slaves of anglosaxons, then the french, fintards were slaves of swedes, then the russians.

        Now both belong to the same braindead union of söy

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, invading third-world tier Ukraine turned into a complete circus so you can only imagine how funny things would get as Russians try their luck in a country riddled with swamps and lakes and a somewhat competent military. And the winter is way colder. Suffice to say, with the implications modern warfare in mind, it would make their previous two attempts look like a walk in the park.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      We would see a lot more mobik popsicles that's for sure

      I wonder what are the operational implications of literally freezing your dick off by taking it out to rape a conscript

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    About as well as in Winter War.
    Overwhelming military performance but buried under the sheer size of russian army. It's been mostly ignored through this war, but one reason why russia wasn't been able to quickly knock out Ukraine is because Ukraine is actually a really big country that been able to simply soak up a lot of damage from all the shit russia threw at them.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would dare say it would have had gone worse than winter war, for Russians.
      During winter war, Finland had virtually nothing on the tank side and most planes were some pre-war biplanes and shit.
      Compare that to modern Leopard 2 A4s and F/A-18 Hornets, Russian army would have melted in a matter of months and China probably would have invaded Russia, seeing it as weak as frick.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Leopard 2 A4s
        A4's are in reserve, active leos are A6's. Not that it would change the outcome.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They would've won just like in the Winter War.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Finland lost both wars anon. In the winter war it was the threat of foreign intervention that forced Stalin to seek peace. In the continuation it was the overwhelming American sympathy towards the Finnish cause despite them fighting alongside the Germans. A lot of misguided Finns give shit to the anglos but in reality they had far more to do with Finnish independence than Germany or Hitler

      t. Finn

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finnish military has more capable navy and airforce than Ukraine, but the land assets are not that good really. Less mechanized troops, no long range AA and most infantry relying on sosialized civilian vehicles. Most finnish brigades are formed on the infantry brigade 1980 standard wich means infantry troops towed by tractors, AA consisting of ZU-23-2 and anti tank armed with old heavy recoilles rifles and M72s. Most of the modern force is light infantry on machine gun armed APC’s. There is only 200 IFVs and 200 leopards in finnish army.

    There is lot of airtillery, but it is mostly old soviet with low ranges. There is good amount of MLRS but not good set of ammunition types.

    The lack of mechanized troops is hedged by the heavily forrested and sparsely roaded territory with large bodies of water limiting the possible routes for attack. On the other hand Finland is like an island for foreigen supply so reveiving help would be harder than it is for Ukraine.

    Finland could stand max 1.5 years of russian agression. The attack could only be done among the coast towards Helsinki which would limit Russian possibilities for bad planning. Defenses would eventualy collapse under consentrated mechanized attacks and Russians would eventualy reach Helsinki with very high casualities.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only things necessary to limiting Russian success in Finland is the ability to deny them their current missile spam, which can easily be handled with donated AA. Then just a few of the superior western MLRS or SPAGs would both outrange and outprecision Russian equipment, and since the forested roads would mean you need precision to hit anything important whilst limiting the amount of shit fielded the Russian artillery spam would be even less succesful than in Ukraine.
      Then drop in the cruise missiles and gripens w/ meteors and Russia can't really do much. Russia is lucky Finland doesn't already have F35s to decapitate their inland railway and AA.
      If the Russians ever push too far, just motti, clog up the road to sweep them and then sweep in before they can launch a counterassault in tandem.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And then sweep in with a counterassault in tandem*
        Or tldr concentrated quality>quantity is very important in Finland and Russia straight up is not geared for a fight like that because their equipment sucks

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mostly agree with these points but they do require some elaboration. The Finnish artillery situation has long been recognized having a lot of obsolete stuff so there is a push to buy more and more stuff like K9 thunders and highly mobile mortar platforms because the dense foliage offsets the range disadvantage to a surprisingly large degree. The Finnish AA is slowly being upgraded with systems like NASAMS and David's sling but the reality is that if Russia really was all in they could overwhelm the defenses albeit at great cost. The Finnish SHORAD from systems like ASRAD-R and Crotale are sufficient against attack helicopters and low flying multirole fighters. The level of mechanization for offensive elements is somewhat lacking but it is also a necessity due to priorities. Mechanized forces are severely limited in Finland as to the routes they can take and light infantry can cause disproportionate losses with mines and AT weaponry simply because mechnized forces can't really chase after them if they just retreat into the dense woods after an ambush. You wouldn't get many chances for the kind of attritional warfare that you see in Ukraine. Unlike in Ukraine as well just about all key facilities are either underground or hardened with concrete so taking out stuff like ammo dumps and C2 sites would be exceptionally difficult for Russia.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'd probably turn into Sweden/Finland vs Russia. Both can receive much more aid than Ukraine due to compatibility with NATO shit and trustworthyness
    The environment sucks ass to fight in too, so what it ends up with is that Russia ends up clogged in some forested road with their railway and depos constantly missiled to shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Possibly.

      Also, if the russian baltic fleet is crambled for an invasion, NATO nations are likely to make things annoying for them, considering how thin the corridoors can be.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lets see...

    >very limited number of roads in the east west direction
    >army geared to a full intensity conflict, AT weapons out of the ass, second largest artillery in Yurop after the Russians
    >doctrine geared specifically to exploit Russian weaknesses and to deny their advantages

    You would have to advance around 300 km tied to a single road, every bridge on the way is blown, chock full of mines, trees toppled on to the roads. All your supplies will also come through this. All this while being harassed trough the whole lenght of your advance by fricking battalion sized dispersed jager elements armed to the teeth, with ridiculous amounts of arty support. You don't have air superiority as the Finns actually have a techincally superior airforce and even if you did it would do you no good because the entire country is covered in trees, everything is dispersed to an autistic degree and behind every tree top is a Stinger or a ZU-23-2. And finally after fighting your way through the countryside and not getting any supplies through you'll be engaged by the mechanized forces with Leopard 2A6s and CV90s. The first moment that you get out of the deep Karelian forest your tanks get annihilated with Spikes, TOWns, NLAWS, BONUS-155mm smart rounds and all the light at-rockets that infrantry carries.

    Oh, and your headquaters, fuel&ammunition depots, railway bridges and supply centers got hit with newest US cruise missiles that Finland has. And even if you manage take some ground, you literally have to deal with Vietnam 2.0, Deep Forest-edition. IEDs, high-calibre scoped rifles and well motivated troops.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Anyone who says Russia could win if they just kept going regardless of casualties is moronic.
      A year in they would have no fricking vehicles left and their airforce would be even more fricked than it is over Ukrainian skies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like modern Russia could just bring down 400x400km of forest tbh, also it's not as advantageous as it one was thanks to thermals if they theoretically invested in them

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon have you followed the fricking war they have been fighting for the last year or so?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ywn see enraged Finns who just want to sauna and drink vodka in peace commit mass murder of vatBlack person subhumans
      Ukraine has been fun but I can't help but feel slightly cheated.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, to be honest, Russia would like start a massive high alt bombing campaign that Finland would not be able to do much about. The only reason this is not part of their strategy for Ukraine is because they don't want to admit they are at war.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know that FAF F/A-18s with AMRAAMs exist? And nordic air command? If puccia were to attack against finns, they would invent new names for st petersburg right now

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          St. Persereikä shall be called Nevanlinna, like it was way way back ago.
          https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevanlinna

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia would lose. Badly.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland is in the EU and they have a common defense pact. It might take a few days of realization this shit is really happening before you have troops from the rest of the countries in Finland, and this is excluding the material aid they'd receive that would make Ukraine look like a joke.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. This shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The greatest problem for Finland would be the relatively small amount of manpower and lack of depth, but on the other hand the terrain is a b***h to attack through and if Russians ended up clooging up in a clownvoy like they did in Ukraine, they’d get obliterated there. Also, because Finland is closer to west politically than Ukraine, the aid in case of invasion would be on completely other level, and while Finland is a ”island” logistically, good luck stopping supplies coming from Swedish border.

    Can’t imagine that it would end well for Russians.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, most of Ukrainian aid has been shipped through baltic sea to Poland and from there forward anyway.
      Shipping directly to Finland should be even easier than that unless Russia can commit to sinking american boats in Baltic Sea.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    based poster.

    And Finns are still forced to learn Swedish.

    Sain vitosen. En osaa sanaakaan.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There would be a machine gun nest there. Good job trying to cross the lake, vatnik. Its not a potato field.

    Nevertheless, NATO was big mistake. The people who most eagerest wanted into NATO was responsible for the downgrade of Finnish independent defense system.

    We cant even buy cheap russian military gear anymore. They sold it to us, why not. There was nothing between us.

    Nato is more evil than russia.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine being finish and buying Russian gear
      Forget monkey models, you better check if that shit is rigged to explode.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It never did. Its like it just works and is built to last.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          have a nice day vatBlack person

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he hasnt shot with 12.7 itkk 96

            Kys zoomer

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oli kyllä hauskaa hommaa.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its like the halo warthog with a finnish twist

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was nothing between Finland and the Soviet Union because the Soviet Union straight up bought politicians and influenced political decisions. Finlandization ran pretty fricking deep. Today is one of the few moments in our history that we are actually independent and free. Traitors to the country like Tuomioja, Halonen, Lipponen and so on are just Russian fifth columnists. Frick Russia and most of all frick the traitors who want to sell us out to the east.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There was nothing between Finland and the Soviet Union
        Except a fricking world war and years of finlandization and a huge cuck(konen) president.

        The era with NO FINLANDIZATION was 1991-1999 with presidental russia. The too much leaning on west with EU and NATO was a mistake.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do agree that Kekkonen was definitely just a Russian puppet hungry for power. Finland without EU or NATO just gets pushed around by Russia. Finland isn't like Switzerland that has infinite money and mountains and relatively rational neighbors. If Finland has no allies and is weak Finland ceases to exist because the Russian Tsar decides that the border ought to stretch out to Sweden regardless of how many people need to die. The EU and NATO have their issues but there is no other alternative for a country like Finland.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Finland without EU or NATO just gets pushed around by Russia

            This is what the EU high salary WEF politicians want you to believe (Niinistö, Halla-aho, Marin...)

            Its wondorous that you have to be pushed by NATO&EU in order to not to be pushed by Russia. Its like our politicians and people lack the willpower to be not pushed around.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nice try Pjotr!

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well, I guess we could build nukes and be our own little north korea of the north to not get pushed around then

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              kirjotas toi seuraavaks suomeks ja sit vielä toiseen kertaan vaikka stadin slangilla koska translate ei sitä hallitse

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ngl, I'd frick a big fat Finnish girl senseless. Like, a fatness that Brosnan could never hope to achieve. I'd frick that behemoth blond Finngolian knowing full well Russia's inevitable return to Congo-tier dilapidation could be viewed online in real-time, all while I was getting my porpoise pumped.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      go back to russia

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We cant even buy cheap russian military gear anymore
      It's cheap because it's a cold war remnant that barely work. Russian didn't even make most of their weapons, Ukraine did.
      Meanwhile the "T-14 Armata" is using an old German design they looted during WWII.

      >Nato is more evil than russia.
      How can "Defending your friends, if you can" be more evil than "Invading and pillaging a sovereign country"?
      Reminder Nato is just a defense agreement which is win-win for everyone except the idiot who planned to invade another country.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy mover here, y'all are missing the point. Russia doesn't have adequate infrastructure to concentrate a superior force onto the border, if they tried putting a breakthrough force into the area, they'd run headfirst into the limit of the region's logistics capacity. And that's before the finns start striking bridges in the area.

    Depending on how you count them, there are 4-6 rail lines the russians can use to roll supplies to the area. Turnaround would be a headache by itself, but not insurmountable. Facilities for offloading supplies are limited and would create a bottleneck, however, that's not their main problem. You can't risk rolling trains into a zone of active hostilities, so the railhead has to be located somewhere sufficiently far behind the lines. From there onwards, it's road traffic only - trucks of varying sizes.

    And there's a limit to how much road traffic a roadway can support. When you begin to approach the limit, you'll see a phenomenon called congestion - the speed at which traffic can flow through drops rapidly. Additionally small disruptions (such as vehicles breaking down, blown tires, etc.) happen all the time in the real world, and these have ripple effects on the flow of traffic.

    If you asked me, could I sustain an invasion force of 200-250k men in the area, I'd say yeah, in ideal conditions I could. However, they'd have to be evenly spread according to capacity of the logistical nodes in the area, within relatively short (low tens of miles) distances from the railheads. This is obviously not okay from a strategic POV as the force needs to be concentrated for breakthrough on the half dozen usable roads in the south.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then, the actual hostilities begin and the enemy now starts launching missile strikes at my bridges, railroads, crossovers. My ability to move ammunition, fuel and food is being constrained at inconvenient, unpredictable times and places. This throws my scheduling out the window, and causes congestion in places where I don't expect it. The enemy further disrupts my efforts to reorganize by striking at the vehicles stuck waiting in line where these new chokepoints have formed.

      Redundancy is an essential component of logistics. There's always some percentage lost to attrition, misrouting, butter bars failing land nav. The limited infrastructure in the border region doesn't leave enough room to maneuver around blockages.

      In a couple of weeks, units in the front will run out of fuel, then ammo, then literally begin to starve.

      If you asked me, how would a sane nation with a competent military approach this problem? I'd tell you, build more roads. Send in the engineers and put down 2000-3000 miles of new dirt road, crossing between the old roads as well as running in parallel. Build temporary bridges, prep sites for pontoon brigdges, even good old fashioned fords that larger vehicles can navigate. But all of this will take time, and the enemy will take notice.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        My problems don't stop at the border, of course. If by some miracle the invasion force achieves a breakthrough and reaches the denser road network further southwest, I am still limited by the chokepoints outlined in the previous posts. And now I have the heavily dispersed enemy troops gunning for my vulnerable transports.

        Remember my point about building roads? The number of roads on the other side of the border is also too low for my needs. I will need to somehow expand the road network on the enemy side of the border to create sufficient redundancy to maneuver around blockages created by enemy action. And of course, the enemy will be looking to disrupt my efforts at every turn. There won't be many engineers around to do the work either, as they'll be urgently needed closer to the front to keep the vanguard from being bogged down by obstacles and minefields.

        Restoring the railroad connections across the border could alleviate the pain somewhat, but only if I can by some miracle keep them operational with missiles raining down and enemy specops slipping demolition charges between the rails. I'd sooner expect cows to fly.

        If I fail, the force I'm supporting will run out of ammo. They might be able to loot fuel from stations and storage in captured areas, but it's a drop in an ocean. They can likely do the same with food long enough to run out of everything else, so at least they'll be well fed when they get overrun.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since Finland is part of EU, how much more assistance would Finland have received than Ukraine assuming that they didn't get steamrolled in few weeks or months.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is failing to supply its army in a region made of railways.
    How do you think they would do in a country made of snowy forêts, swamps and lakes ?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How do you think they would do in a country made of snowy forêts, swamps and lakes ?
      If this game is any indication, they'll use a full tanker just crossing 1km.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are Finnish women attractive.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're okay. I'm sure you could find better looking women elsewhere but they are mostly passable.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about Icelandic gals?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are better

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women are the biggest bawds and men are the biggest autists. Both scientifically proven facts.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland has a lot of modern US made equipment.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why Finland didn't seek to join NATO
    Many politicians had, and still have, deep relations with Russians. For example, our former PM was just like Gerhard Schröder in Germany, he was lobbing for Nord Stream pipes and getting all that nice Russian money while doing it. Our former president Halonen has also most likely been compromised by her connections to the former Communist Block and Soviet Union/Russia.

    Lustration was never carried out in Finland like it was carried out in other Eastern European countries. I can't fricking wait to for those collaborationist b***hes to be flushed out and shamed. Now there's definitely a need and an opportunity to do just that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't fricking wait to for those collaborationist b***hes to be flushed out and shamed.

      That already happened last spring, and it was incredibly satisfying. My favorite was watching Väyrynen spout his inane and outdated bullshit and become even more irrelevant than before.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >That already happened last spring
        A proper lustration would be much bigger than Väyrynen. We're talking about Halonen, Supo (Finnish CIA), Tiitinen list, etc. Every stone must be turned and every connection must be investigated to truly understand some of the choices our politicians have made in the past when it comes Russia, Nato and so on.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean just arrest the past Fortum CEO's and you've got a good portion of them already.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Corruption, especially simping for foreign interests, is an inherent systemic fault in a democracy because democracy is a form of committee rule, and committees are for separating power and responsibility. The very same people who simped for soviets will simp for NATO because that is where they get their post career money from.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What I've seen in the Ukraine war, the only thing russians have been even slightly successful at is their missile and drone spamming. Their problem is that they only seem to target civilian structures. Finland would never cave to terror attacks like that. They tried it with Helsinki in the cold war and it didn't break the morals. The biggest threat Russia would come against is the terrain. It would completely frick over any kind of quick mechanized assault. We may not have the capabilities for offense, but our defense is pretty solid. Though I hope they don't try because I'd rather have a cozy life than be forced to shit in the forest for a year.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It'd be miserable for the finns since they only have a few cities unlike ukraine who has a population of like 40 million. Now imagine all those missiles russia lobs at ukraine but concentrated at helsinki and turku.
    Frick that shit, just thinking about it makes me angry i hate russia so god damn much, it is horrible with war but living UNDER russia is far worse.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How many bomb shelters does Ukraine have? Because we have lots. The fricking public pool is underground and designated as a bomb shelter.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland does not exist

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddit meme

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How well would've Finland fared against Russia had it been the target of the 2022 invasion?
    When the Soviet Union invaded Finland, they had literally every advantage over Finland. Men? Experience? Tanks? Planes? Yep. They even had some fifth columnist commie vermin. They lost over a half a million men and they lost the war. (Yes they did - the Soviet goal was always going to be either de jure or de facto annexation, and the corridor of land they demanded was a pretext they were forced to accept after a crushing defeat.)

    Modern Finland has the largest artillery collection in Europe, all of it better and newer than Russian Black person shit. Russian Black folk can no longer hide behind Belorussians and Ukrainians to do all the hard work. Their planes are dog shit and their pilots (what few they have) are even worse. Meanwhile, Finland operates modern western kit. To include the F-35, meaning Finland could easily count on allies flying under 'false flag' units to further bolster their numbers without Russia being able to prove it. Finnish terrain has gotten harder to invade, not easier, because they have learned from the decades they have spent preparing for Russian Black folk to show their fundamental genetic character once again. So yes, Russia loses - badly, and quickly. Ironically they might end up losing less Russian Black folk than they have in Ukraine, because the idea of them being able to make serious gains into Finland is literally laughable.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and the corridor of land they demanded was a pretext they were forced to accept after a crushing defeat.)
      Haha and now as punishment you will be forced to take this strip of land!

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My buddy that served in the first jäger company said they'd be in Moscow in a few months. If the Ukrainians can stop the Russians and humiliate them then a proper first world nation with a professional military would destroy Russia.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing that should be going to Moscow is several nuclear missiles.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Moderates like you make me sick.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >entire country is basically one massive pre-sighted artillery grid
    >second largest artillery force in Europe
    >terrain that is the exact opposite of the kind that russian doctrine depends on
    >terrain is thick forest, lakes, rivers, bogs and MORE FRICKING LAKES
    >every road and bridge will be mined
    >Professional and highly trained army backed up by a relatively large conscript base
    >modern airforce
    >entire purpose of the military for the last 80 years is to specifically frick over any attempt at russian invasion
    >Every major city is basically one massive bunker complex
    >west would flip it's shit and flood the country with weapons the second Russia looks at them funny
    Gee, how do you think it would go?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      is thick forest, lakes, rivers, bogs and MORE FRICKING LAKES
      That's an understatement.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This looks like hell to navigate
        Imagine having to command a mechanized until through all those fricking lakes

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This looks like hell to navigate
        Imagine having to command a mechanized until through all those fricking lakes

        many of the lakes are connected so it's pretty cool if you have a boat. you can reach a lot of places by sailing, like our family would sometimes opt to take off from our pier and sail directly to our grandparents some 60km away, stopping at a lakeside pizza joint on the way over. its like one piece

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That does sound absolutely based as frick and I would love to visit Finland one of these days as a filthy american just to hike through the wilderness over there
          But yeah, who the frick would want to invade shit like this when it's nothing but lakes down south

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just imagine all the VDV you could drown in that bad boy

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        dog bless the ice age

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now you imagine the Russian gigaconvoy getting stuck along the only highway leading from the border to inland, with only forest around it, the way forward mined to hell and back, and the rear of the convoy got wrecked by GMLRS.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, and this time the opposition actually had modern artillery systems, an actual airforce and actual PGMs. And a doctrine based almost entirely on ambushing mass formations of russian troops.
        I'm getting hard just thinking about it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Be careful or you'll get locked up with the A-10 pilots who just never quite recovered from seeing that convoy.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention FDF went for a massive shopping spree last year. Finland becomes the 2nd largest GMLRS user in the world.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >tuvat täysimääräsisinä
          Finnish is not a real language, you cannot convince me otherwise.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wow idiot. Thats because we have to scrap/sent to israelitekraine all non NATO standarded things.

          Eventually including fricking Rk62/95
          At least it wont be the 5.56 troonyammo but 6.8. Cope seethe dilate, but you wont see any AR15 variants. They cant even shoot thru bush. LMAO

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >modernize and improve your army
            >maximum seething from vatniks

            Turpa kii, ryssä.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Natonize=/=modernize

              Can you move to USA, traitor

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                NATO countries make the best shit ergo NATOnizing your gear is modernizing it. Only absolute mouthbreathers still look at Russian gear with awe and reverence. The only thing Russia ever did well was small arms rocketry during the cold war.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >outmanouvers with mach 2.2 your "stealth" mach 1.6 plane

                Its invisible! How did you see me, vatnigge-ACK

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize missiles are faster than mach 2 and you aren't outmanouvering shit?

                >flies to 50km of your flying coffin
                >fire missile
                >watch you get blown to shit before you can shout "oy blyat"
                >fly away
                Nothin' personnel vatnik

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he fell for the magic missile meme
                You were the ones wanting saab gripen as you deemed f35 is shit. Now you must cope woth magic missiles, as the plane is a fiasco

                The problem is that the Su57 has all the same radars and missiles and it just outmanouvers and outruns.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not to mention FDF went for a massive shopping spree last year. Finland becomes the 2nd largest GMLRS user in the world.

          (G)MLRS is literally rent-a-rocket, the rockets expire after 10 years, so you need to replenish 100% of your inventory over 10 years.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The collective West cannot allow landgrabs in or near the civilised world. Finland cannot lose, just like Ukraine could not lose once it was obvious they weren't going to just roll over. Western support would simply be dialled to level needed

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    With the allies against them they managed to hold off a much more competent and better armed Russia in the past, with the allies on side I'm going with decisive Finish victory.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nato's a fricking bad deal for the reservists and conscripts but you are SIMPS. Holy hell, you think now with nato you are LE NAVY SEALS. You are NOT. YOU ARE THE LEAST PERSON NATO WILL GIVE AIR SUPPORT. They will prioritize the miniscule professional troops they have on the battlefield.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you think NATO works? Why do you think major powers are willing to let minor powers in?
      The whole point is if you get 20 minor powers to join and design their armed forces around interoperability those 20 minor powers now have the combined punch of a single major power.
      The only way NATO ever prioritizes which member to defend is when several have collapsing fronts at once and in that case you are still more fricked as a non-member because your occupied nation becomes a geopolitical trading peice instead of land NATO is obligated to reclaim.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice 322 get my russian friend

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland would have protected itself for 2 weeks and done fairly decent damage to Russians. Finland has limited manpower and can field one million men at most which is like 20% of their population. After two weeks the nation would collapse and get occupied by Russia.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Da pjotr or whatever fricking nato simp. Unlike ukraine, we actually had working reserve and armed forces.

      What would have happened in two weeks? Rudsian colonny eould have been devasted at the border. It would have been inpenetrable. Our massive artillery would have NUKED anything

      But thats with that. Now with nato we must scrap every eastern caliber gun

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Welcome to globohomo. Should have protested against it instead of supporting israelitekraine against Russia.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          sorry youre losing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The vatnik repeats the phrase over and over again: "Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks."

      The uninformed take this as meaning a literal time period; a statement of how something is expected to happen within that timeframe. This is a mistake. "Two weeks" holds not a practical meaning, but a religious one. It's a declaration of faith, of belief. "Two more weeks, trust the plan" is another form used. They believe, against all evidence to the contrary, that if they just destroy enough, sacrifice enough, suffer enough, they will somehow, magically, prevail.

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    far better than moronic sub 90 iq ukrainian subhumans do

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    she looks like she fricks shotas

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Impossible comparison. Everything is way too different. Only thing that's sure is that border cities works be wrecked like mariupol and Helsinki would be bombed to hell because we lack high altitude interception and russians could do it from their own garrisons.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because of the sheer difference in manpower, city fighting would be tricky. We'd have to rely on them losing popular support through sheer battlefield humiliation quickly as I think occupying all of Moscow would be an unreasonable ask.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    One big disadvantage for Russia would be that they would not be to spread their troops along the border because russian side has seen barely any development after the war. There are only couple roads to Finland and the rest of the border is woods and gravel roads for forest industry.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I believe they don't have nearly the number of SAM complexes Ukraine had, so I'm afraid russia would've got air superiority quite fast

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    very bad. no nato country has the industrial capacity like russia. even if the finnish leadership wouldnt be as moronic as the holos it would still end very bad lmao

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unlike hohols, Finland would have had 64 kpl autistic, 1 nanosecond reaction time hornet pilots. Russia would have had to use Su-57, with major risks. Basically they would have been downed which would have been so devastating blow to russian reputation it would have actually destroyed russia from inside change of power.

      So, the only option was to go after ukraine. They are easy targets

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno, what am I like the oracle of cumae?

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    First you should ask “why would Russia invade Finland?” to figure out how much Russia would commit to the attack, what international support Finland would have, how willing Finland would be to retaliate, e.g. by bombing SpB, and how willing both sides would be to negotiate to end the war.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that a boy or a girl in OP's pic?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can jerk off to it regardless

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finland in terms of skilled manpower has 230.000 first line of well trained and frequently practised reserve, and another 700.000 men also with conscript training and reserve practises. More than 50.000 reservists have AK or AR rifles at home and gear good to go:

    Add to prepardness 700.000 gun owners/hunters with 1.500.000 guns. Some 200.000 hunters with target rifles complete hunting marksmanship test every 3 years, most belonging to locally well organized hunting clubs with communications equipment and usually many members being also reservists.

    One needs to understand that when every other country in Europe started to dismantle their military forces after end of Soviet Union, Finland maintained its conscript - reserve army model and kept on modernizing its armament on all levels, Army, Navy/Coastal defence and Air Force.

    Finland with small fast anti ship missile boats which hide well within the vast archipelago of the Gulf of Finland (at narrovest only ca 70km across and mosty very shallow) and mobile land based anti naval missiles and coastal artillery, together with Europes largest stockpile of naval mines can close all sea traffic from russians from and to St. Petersburg. Together with Swedish navy missile boats and submarines and their coastal missiles, most of the Baltic Sea is off-limits to russians too, locking them also to Kaliningrad.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      FYI you can go by boat from the Baltic to Kuopio (see top middle of map) but you need to pass trough russian captured territory since the canal from the lake to the sea ends in Vyborg.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Strongly this. Even IF the russians could break the Finnish main defence forces (that they obvioysly cant do, not even before the war) the vast amount of weapons and people willing and able to use them would cause another Afganistan. Huge forests, hudreds of thousands hi-calibre hunting rifles, AK/AR rifles, marksamn-level training and all FDF kit that would be given to the population... Good luck.

      I dont have any problem to take my gun and kit, disappear to innawoods and conducting guerrilla war from there. Against r*ssians there is no surrender. Ever.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    a better question is how well will glow Black folk fare against muh russians and muh chinese. glow Black folk always trying to talk tough, when we will get to see them become cannon fodder

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I get a cute Finnish gf bros?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Buy her coffee for five years until she finally speaks her first word to you

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Finnish, Swedish, Danish and Norvegian Air Forces have a total of some 250 modern fighter planes (fully working ones vs Russian ???), with already years of mutual practises and joint command capability. These can also carry US made cruise missiles, such as JASSM´s, which also Finland has recently purchased.

    https://ilmavoimat.fi/en/-/jassm-rynnakkoohjuksen-onnistunut-koeammunta-yhdysvalloissa

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you stop her?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No Oddjob!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You cant. She is the queen khalisi. The princess amidala. The wonder woman. She is fighting with the Lannisters . She challenges the dark force and thanos.

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please watch this film, that oddly fits in Ukraine but was produced before war...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The old one is better

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        TUO KAAKAO!!

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