How viable would be to strap one of those RPG-76s to dem FPV drones?
The launcher weights more or less the same as an RPG-7 round, and they use the warhead of those rounds for FPV drones already
One possible problem is the recoil blowing the drone off course, tough i dont know how effective automatic stabilization is for overcoming this
>One possible problem is the recoil blowing the drone off course
these things are supposed to be recoilless
Lol, lmao
Well all "recoiless" weapons have a degree of recoil, and the rpg-76 is particular is, well...
A normal RPG-7 has a booster charge that pushes the round out of the tube, that round then engages its rocket propulsion
The RPG-76 doesnt have this, the rocket propulsion is engaged immediately, but the thrusters are angled 45 degrees away from the user to protect them, the thing still blows you away, there are videos of the thing firing, looks uncomfortable
this is a rocket - nozzles are angled but still will be felt - but this is not a problem - problem is hitting anything from a distance - same reason there are no drones with attached pistols or rifles (yet in mass service)
Why? fpv are plenty, cheap and 'accurate'.
Your suggestion is harder to aim and decrease range by quite a lot.
Well it increases the range at which a target can be engaged, makes the drone reusable and possibly could decrease the probability of it being shot down or colliding with something
Nope, the range drone is far more important than the 50 meters of any small rpg. Losing 5 minues of flight time is like 3 km of range or loitering time.
Ok, but the RPG-76 already weights more or less the same as a normal RPG-7 round, which is the warhead these drones use already
How would the range be decreased?
Besides, carrying reloads is probably easier than carrying a bunch of extra mavics
Also, depending on the intensity of EW countermeansures, a ranged option could make certain attacks feasible
The RPG-76 supposedly has a 400m range, so lets say at 200m you have a decent hit chance
>How would the range be decreased?
Because you have to come back...
You're losing like 20-30% of battery life to get back you're lighter drone. Actually more because a drone able to aim is far more complex/heavy, fpv are trash, but trash that works as kamikaze
your ligther drone*
>How would the range be decreased?
because if you want to reuse the drone it must return to you cutting the range in half basically
Ok i see your point now, still returning is optional, like with bomber drones
>still returning is optional
Ok retard.
I wasnt insulting you
>because if you want to reuse the drone it must return to you cutting the range in half basically
Yeah, this is the main issue, many of those videos have "battery low" warning right before the impact.
a reusable drone is better than one use
you can make better drones that way too
doesn't look that bad
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Drones are disposable because the EW and high failure rate (crashes). Making something that works thanks to being so simple is stupid.
And your "better drone" is less accurate than the suicide fpv
> Making something
Making complex and expensive something that works*
Thats not OP btw
It would make sense logistically if you already have access to these or them stockpiled or laying around.
That IDF tank was taken out by the Hamas small drone IED despite the trophy system. Not sure if that was a conventional or improvised munition. That is a real threat, I believe it is the same system on the M1 Abrams.
As for the FPV kamikaze drones, the highest power explosive you can access by weight will ensure maximum firepower for the payload. Plastic explosive is perfect for this. Easy to improvise from common materials, can be shaped in a container or on the drone for aerodynamics.
Any explosive works really, but an plastic explosive like in TM 31-210 would be perfect. It's a simple recipe. The components are commonplace, and if not, can be made with bleach, or even batteries and salt. Then there are improvised munitions like with fertilizer, gunpowder, tannerite, gun cotton, C4, napalm, molotovs, all the classics. With a deep forensic trail like the IRA.
The big idea is to deliver a munition by a small drone and detonate it, by impact, by remote detonation, dropping or crashing into the target. There are many ways to do this, professionally in a factory or guerrilla style with a repurposed commercial camera drone.
One special thing about guerrilla warfare are these little factories. Like the mortar factors in Syria, the little quadcopter drone factories in Ukraine. In Syria, the fellas they had making the IEDs were artists and musicians before joining the war effort. Their whole job as guerrillas is to just sit in a room and make bombs.
Munitions necessitate manufacture and safe storage, even though they can be captured and salvaged.
The Syrian rebels have to make do with steel milling and homemade mortars to fight ISIS. Not unlike how Ukrainians make their drone weapons from repurposed small commercial drones. A guerrilla tactic that originated in Syria.
>If only you knew how bad things really are
These are not super accurate, but they can be calibrated. Indiscriminate attacks on urban areas can cause serious casualties as well.
To maintain public support, that is, to actually win the war, the guerilla must hold themselves to a higher moral standard. Not attacking civilians, making precise legal attacks on legal combatants, their positions and fortifications. War crimes hurt civilians and hurt public support.
Most of all, such recklesness hurts innocent people that did not sign up to fight and die in an armed conflict, regardless of how it is viewed strategically. The guerrilla is the champion and protector the people. This is ISIS-American tactics. ISIS is an insane slaving cult with zero moral scruples, Syrians are forced to go up against that and fight that. It's a living nightmare, but it is the business and cutting edge of men of war.
How viable would be to strap one of those RPG-76s to dem [...] drones?
Oh, you mean like they already presented in September?
t. Pole who checks from time to time for the new announcements for the new versions of this thing
Noice
Did they send some to the ukis to test em?
No info.
They do stick these to FPV drones. They modify the fuses to arm without firing the rocket motor and just fly the drone into the target. Its a quick and dirty field expedient solution. A purpose made warhead would be better but this is pretty effective in a pinch. All Russian AFVs are vulnerable to an RPG-7 warhead attacking the roof if it avoids ERA.
Ok but im talking about FIRING the round then returning home
what benefit do you think there'd be?
The option to reuse the drone, maybe the ability to operate just outside of EW interference, carrying around RPG-76 reloads also seems easier than carrying several FPV drones
And MAYBE the possibility of mouting 2 or more rounds in a single drone
RPG suicide drones are cheap and effective. No need to save them. If there is a drone thats big and expensive enough to warrant returning home there will be better munitions for it than an RPG-76.
If there was an improvement to make to the suicide drones IMO it would be a self destruct. There is that video of the drone chasing the helicopter and the copter outruns it. If they had the option to self destruct, there were several moments in the video where they would have likely killed the helicopter by hitting it with the jet from the shaped charge. It does seem like extra effort for field expedient one use items, though, with a very small chance of needing to use it. The other downside is that they likely wouldn't have confirmation of a kill, and we woudn't have kino.
>RPG suicide drones are cheap and effective. No need to save them
why do bomber drones exist then? reusable drones clearly have some value to the ukis
>If there is a drone thats big and expensive enough to warrant returning home there will be better munitions for it than an RPG-76.
such as? i struggle to imagine a lighter AT rocket