How the FUCK do I move water? I have a 1000 gallon tank and a source 1500ft away and 70ft up.

How the FRICK do I move water?
I have a 1000 gallon tank and a source 1500ft away and 70ft up.
Say even if the pressure is zero at the source which it isn't, how can I calculate gpm per ID?

I have found all the information for gpm per id and gpm per id at a specific pressure, but can't find shit on frictional losses of such a pipe length. I know at 1500ft it is going to be a significant consideration at smaller pipe sizes but idk how much.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand any of this shit but does this help?
    https://www.pumpfundamentals.com/Pump%20and%20piping%20sizing.pdf

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is your mom's hourly rate too much?

    Based on your experience it'll be easier to hire this job out.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you get 10 five gallon buckets and fill them up and drive them over with a tractor or something you'll only need to make 20 trips

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I figured it out, even if I used 1/2 pvc, my pressure loss from 1500ft would be 1psi and my gain from altitude is 30.3psi
    So the 1/2 will do roughly 10gpm
    I should probably do more gpm but I am not sure what the pump does. I guess I could measure that first.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can work it out beforehand but for that diameter and run length you're not going to get the any where near the expected value out due to unknowable losses. I'll give you the same advice I gave to your mom, it's just a case of suck it and see

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This reads like a Physics question the Prof wrote up in the middle of a week long bender.
    If pipe is too complicated you could try cupping your hands and moving it that way.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    why move the water, when you can move to the water. every major civilization built its cities on rivers and shores for a reason.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are aqueducts?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aqueducts don't go uphill

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the problem with water is that it moves where ever it wants to

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >source is higher than tank
    Run a pipe from the source to the tank. Why does it need to be more complicated than that?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the source is a well
      it only runs at certain intervals and times. I lied somewhat because the source is actually pretty much level with it but it goes up a hill to some small tanks.
      I have not decided if I will come off one of those tanks or just take whatever water is left after those tanks get full.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >source 1500ft away and 70ft up

        >source is actually pretty much level
        >but it goes up a hill
        Is your water source at a higher altitude than your tank? It's a simple yes or no question.
        If yes you can siphon it. If no you'll have to pump it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          the water is 200-700ft below in the well, the ground around the well is nearly even with my tank. the well pumps up to some tanks 70 feet above my tank.
          I have been doing calculations based on that since I am unsure yet if I will just feed off the tank or off the well. it depends on how i want to prioritize it.
          I am not sure what kinda pressure I get there so I am assuming the worst.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you feed off the tank you can still get water in the case of a pump outage.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have not decided if I will come off one of those tanks or just take whatever water is left after those tanks get full.
        Pump from well to tank.
        Use gravity to get from tank to house.
        You are autistically overthinking this.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    so let me get this straight
    you're literally having trouble running water downhill?

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP you are trying to calculate the head loss of a pipe. Google that instead and you'll find the information you're looking for more easily

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Put the tank on a utility trailer and move it closer to the source

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You seem incapable of simple engineering, but there's an easy answer. Call your fire department. Offer them $500 or $1000 to pump it for you. It's not an emergency so they can run it as a training exercise and get hours for it.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Open the tank; it will move

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >source is higher that the destination
    how is this even an issue? go buy a few 500ft spools of poly pipe and let gravity do the work?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Water is super cheap. Just drain it and refill it

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