This is you damned if you do you damned if you don't. War ing about gas can breach opsec and warn terrorists.
But yeah Russian emergency medicine demonstrated themselves hilariously bad, unfortunately. Just placing people into recovery position would save many lives.
Let alone using nasopharyngeal airway. But Russians were light years behind in medicine. All this should be done by default without any knowledge about casualties agent. "Difficulty breathing - secure airways", it's just emergency medicine reflex.
People don't understand thst most hostages died because they suffocated on their saliva and tongue. There were many photos from the hostages recovery and evacuation and this is hundreds unconscious people lying on the back on the streets and then sitting reclined in the buses similarly with heads thrown back on the chairs headrest. Terrible images , very dangerous pose for people in coma.
>uvalde
The fault of the police department, but there are other police/federal agencies that does a better job than them. The FBI HRT team seems to be fit for the job since they are authorized to be deployed outside of the United states.
>Alpha team troops said that "this is our first successful operation [in] years".[40] Moskovskij Komsomolets cited a Russian special forces operative saying that "if it were a usual storming, we'd have had 150 casualties among our men, added to the hostages."[41]
pfffft
>Alpha team troops said that "this is our first successful operation [in] years". Moskovskij Komsomolets cited a Russian special forces operative saying that "if it were a usual storming, we'd have had 150 casualties among our men, added to the hostages."
Weird quote. Alpha had freed the captured plane in Georgia in 1983, participated in the assault on Amin mansion, successefully freed hostages in Saratov in 1989 (a gang took a family in a residential building), then a bus with korean hostages in Moscow in 1995, captured Raduev in 2000, there were some other operations in the 80s and 90s too.
>Alpha team troops said that "this is our first successful operation [in] years". Moskovskij Komsomolets cited a Russian special forces operative saying that "if it were a usual storming, we'd have had 150 casualties among our men, added to the hostages."
Also from there. >Money and other valuables belonging to the victims vanished; official reports stated that the valuables were stolen by an FSB officer who was later killed in a car crash
>gassing a theatre of hostages and not treating them somehow managed half the dead of beslan
https://i.imgur.com/8kGGnvo.jpg
>uvalde
The fault of the police department, but there are other police/federal agencies that does a better job than them. The FBI HRT team seems to be fit for the job since they are authorized to be deployed outside of the United states.
I don't know what's worse: the level of larping local police do under the petty fiefdoms of rural governments or that they're actually dealing with these situations with predictably inconsistent results.
Put people they brought out into the recovery position so they don't suffocate. Many of the fatalities were are a result of failing to do this. Also naloxone by the truckload. Paramedics should have been informed what was used.
>Put people they brought out into the recovery position
This is so elementary I'm shocked that they didn't do this
We learned that in junior high for fucks sake
The assault itself was alright, it's the treatment of the gassed hostages where Russians fucked up royally. IMO Beslan school takeover is more interesting to think about.
They should have nuked Moscow.
Do all the same but this time notify the ambulance workers about the kind of gas they used to prevent casualties among freed hostages.
This is you damned if you do you damned if you don't. War ing about gas can breach opsec and warn terrorists.
But yeah Russian emergency medicine demonstrated themselves hilariously bad, unfortunately. Just placing people into recovery position would save many lives.
Let alone using nasopharyngeal airway. But Russians were light years behind in medicine. All this should be done by default without any knowledge about casualties agent. "Difficulty breathing - secure airways", it's just emergency medicine reflex.
Most ESL post I've ever read.
ESL or no I think the content of the post is sound (unlike yours)
People don't understand thst most hostages died because they suffocated on their saliva and tongue. There were many photos from the hostages recovery and evacuation and this is hundreds unconscious people lying on the back on the streets and then sitting reclined in the buses similarly with heads thrown back on the chairs headrest. Terrible images , very dangerous pose for people in coma.
absolutely NOT. mass tranquilization is incredibly dangerous. there is a REASON why anesthesiologists have the most expensive malpractice insurance.
pumping fentanyl through the AC was a hliariously stupid idea and is indicative of slavs' low value of human life.
Asked the United States for help
Ye, they seemed useful in Uvalde.
Better call the French.
My guess is we would send feds/CIA not members of a local police department.
as if the CIA weren't already there
>Better call the French.
Gendarmerie would have done a better job than whatever Uvalde cops did
Ye, it's like having a specialized team training full time for those situations could be better ?
Who could have known ?
>uvalde
The fault of the police department, but there are other police/federal agencies that does a better job than them. The FBI HRT team seems to be fit for the job since they are authorized to be deployed outside of the United states.
>The fault of the police department
But it's emblematic of all local police departments.
They're all operative larpers.
Send in the VDV!
Without air support? Are you NUTS?
I would person not pump deadly gas into an environment filled with hostages
Just bomb the whole shit and said that the terrorists did it
Force Daddy Kadyrov to come and negotiate.
Brilliant
>Alpha team troops said that "this is our first successful operation [in] years".[40] Moskovskij Komsomolets cited a Russian special forces operative saying that "if it were a usual storming, we'd have had 150 casualties among our men, added to the hostages."[41]
pfffft
Weird quote. Alpha had freed the captured plane in Georgia in 1983, participated in the assault on Amin mansion, successefully freed hostages in Saratov in 1989 (a gang took a family in a residential building), then a bus with korean hostages in Moscow in 1995, captured Raduev in 2000, there were some other operations in the 80s and 90s too.
Should've used sarin.
Disclose the chemical components to doctors, alpha team and other policemen to properly handle incapacitated hostages
They had to otherwise entire threater would be blown to hell
lmao this gem from wikipedia
>Alpha team troops said that "this is our first successful operation [in] years". Moskovskij Komsomolets cited a Russian special forces operative saying that "if it were a usual storming, we'd have had 150 casualties among our men, added to the hostages."
Also from there.
>Money and other valuables belonging to the victims vanished; official reports stated that the valuables were stolen by an FSB officer who was later killed in a car crash
>valuables were stolen by an FSB officer
>who was later killed in a car crash
How awfully convenient.
fire shmel and 125mm he-frag into every window
this worked pretty well in beslan
>gassing a theatre of hostages and not treating them somehow managed half the dead of beslan
I don't know what's worse: the level of larping local police do under the petty fiefdoms of rural governments or that they're actually dealing with these situations with predictably inconsistent results.
They released the perpetrators and had FSB handlers deliver them to Moscow, it was very much intentional, anon.
by not starting the kidnapping
try shelling it with artillery.
Put people they brought out into the recovery position so they don't suffocate. Many of the fatalities were are a result of failing to do this. Also naloxone by the truckload. Paramedics should have been informed what was used.
>Put people they brought out into the recovery position
This is so elementary I'm shocked that they didn't do this
We learned that in junior high for fucks sake
Use PVO to bring down an airliner ontop of the building
The assault itself was alright, it's the treatment of the gassed hostages where Russians fucked up royally. IMO Beslan school takeover is more interesting to think about.
isn't that the one where they literally shot Shmels and RPGs into a school full of hostages