How practical would Gundams be IRL?

How practical would Gundams be IRL?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit, the nips weren't kidding when they said they wanted to re-arm.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Extremely impractical. Any advanced technology that can be used as an excuse to make them viable can be used to make them inferior to better uses of the same technology.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like what exactly? We cab assume by "logic" for that to be the case in "real life". I am no expert on the anime (I want to call it a cartoon) but I've seen enough of it that the same tech that made the giant robots that was put on other things were no match against the giant robots. So your theory is tossed out the window because the resource that we have on Gundams, which is the show, proves otherwise.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A gigantic man shaped robot with a jet pack is the dumbest thing ever with zero practically.
        This is the closest thing besides the naval ships to being practical in all of Gundam.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The cartoon is the resource material on how it works. The cartoon shows that if infact if Gundams were real that they would work as depicted and would be the pinnacle of the technology that made them. Putting the same tech on anything else would not be superior, bro. The cartoon proved that time and time again.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it makes sense in a fictional universe that bends physics
            Obviously, but also why wouldn’t they just build gigantic balls (lol) with lasers and thrusters everywhere? It does the same exact thing in that universe 10,000 times more efficiently.

            Same reason why we evolved to stand on two feet
            So our hands can multi task while still be able to travel complex environment, which those space structures will be

            No, that’s stupid. A gigantic man shaped robot swinging a giant flaming axe is not practical. It has hands…to pick up bigger versions of human weapons? That’s awesome to look at, but even within that universe wouldn’t make sense.
            It’s fun to get lost in giant robot media from time to time, but it’s stupid if you think about it for more than a few seconds. Nothing wrong with that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is always a back hand excuse for why Gundams, or any mecha, are super powered.

        The most common is the gundam having some magic power source that allows it to have some form of energised armour that won't work on a tank. Or that they somehow magic shenanigans because genetic ubermench can think faster and make the gundam dance.

        Battletech came up with the excuse of myomer fibre muscles supposedly being orders of magnitude better than tracks because reasons

        My personal favorite mecha show Full Metal Panic has the mechs be weaker than Tanks in a normal fight, with them being closer to attack helicopters - but even then needs to excuse their existence with "black technology"

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mecha are durable because limb hits can penetrate through the entire limb with only a small reduction in structural strength and affected redundant muscles/systems. A hole in the shin doesn't blow off the leg and the ankle and foot might still be mostly functional and hip and knee unaffected. This is like a tank that can lose its track and still drive on roadwheels.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            They don’t exist. A cartoon is not durable.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the anime about how awesome mechs are that was written by people who fetishized mech suits and who went out of their way to justify mech technology in their fictional universe is an unbiased source
        DYRBI

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given that we can’t make them, not at all. If we could then all the particle physics wank dreamt up to justify them would would have to be true, and would make them very practical for the same reasons.

    Well, except that I have no idea why it has a head. IRL you’d probably just ditch that and have everything come off the torso.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Basically any mech would be useless as well as nearly impossible to functionally build. They also wouldn’t be able to do anything that a tank can’t already do.
    A mech the scale of a Gundam will always be fiction. Something like VOTOMS might because it’s small but it would be outclassed by a tank.
    Basically weebs are never getting giant robots.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What would a giant mech gun need a pic rail?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because mecha doesn’t make any sense and they have to keep selling new model kits to turbovirgins. It doesn’t make sense for mechs to have hands either. They just completely make nonsense, just cool to look at and have a story around.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Extra sight for atmospheric sniper shot, man.

        Because mecha doesn’t make any sense and they have to keep selling new model kits to turbovirgins. It doesn’t make sense for mechs to have hands either. They just completely make nonsense, just cool to look at and have a story around.

        You are too nervous, hotshot. Try to relax.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all. They'd get raped to death by future optical guided missiles. They'd probably get raped to death by ancient contrast seekers.
    The only thing the Mobile Suits make sense for is their original purpose, being giant humanoid robots for building things in 0 g.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely impractical. Any advanced technology that can be used as an excuse to make them viable can be used to make them inferior to better uses of the same technology.

      Given that we can’t make them, not at all. If we could then all the particle physics wank dreamt up to justify them would would have to be true, and would make them very practical for the same reasons.

      Well, except that I have no idea why it has a head. IRL you’d probably just ditch that and have everything come off the torso.

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      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        respect the robot

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just looked that up, my side has reentered orbit and crashed into Australia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Radar and IR doesn’t work in the gundam universe. They have to use literal telescopes on the bridges of their carriers.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        IR and beam riders, along with wire guided missiles all worked. Zakus explicitly have an IR vision mode and laser communication is the primary form of long range comms.
        Not sure how this was reckoned with the funny setting particles got buffed in side stories into fricking with all electronics.
        That gets you into max brooks zombies can't breathe territory quickly.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >building things in 0 g
      Even for that they'd be inferior to canadarm-spiders or the like

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe but there's something to be said for giant humanoid robots being easier for a human to spatially understand operating.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Somethong, bit by the time we're doing 0g construction at scale that something won't count for much because AI would be doing all the engineering AND building.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Giant robot samurai is impractical and a waste of fuel and rare resources. Ironically the giant fortress/cathedrals on robotic legs make much more sense, as they're basically mobile bases and long ranged artillery all in one.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      And have two huge, lumbering, exposed structural points begging to be penetrated. Also impossible due to weight scaling, that thing would never be able to move or support its own weight without collapsing, even with fantasy materials.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'd have to pass through void shields capable of withstanding a planet ending nuke first, assuming you managed to also bypass the extensive AA arrays. Titans generally get killed in cqc against other titans or with poorly understood supercannons that fire literal magic. Trying to engage them at long distances with nothing short of an orbital barrage is a pointless exercise.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn't address the weight issues and the heat generation that would ensue. I'm sure this has been already explained with some warp business but we're talking about implementing them in IRL life.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            What about cold control in arctic climates? A big walking machine could freeze.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Titans are peak obscenity because they knowingly buck the square cube law by using the anti gravity tech you see on some smaller vehicles in warhammer to lighten the load on their legs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not very. Power armor is the more likely of the two sci-fi knight/samurai concepts.

      >Ironically the giant fortress/cathedrals on robotic legs make much more sense because massive inefficiencies is part of the Imperium's culture.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Titans predate the imperium by a huge margin. The point of 40k is that nobody knows how to improve anything anymore, present day imperium pales in comparison to great crusade imperium, which conversely pales in comparison to DAoT human civilization. So they currently fight with the scraps of the scraps of their glorious past. And its still enough to kick ass on a galactic scale. So no, they might be corrupt, decadent, unstable, but they're definitely not inefficient.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh there's a Titan power fist right there in the image, the only reason why Imperators aren't fistfighting is because no author has put in the work to write one doing so yet.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Check out Titanicus by Dan Abnett. Has some titan on titan high impact violence, as well as artillery duels and skitarii boarding actions if I remember right.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't matter, we have to build them because they look sick.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >its already kneeling for BLM

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cali compliant, a must for the lucrative export market

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They require a shake up in technology. Even Gundam has several technological handwaves to make them feasible in the form of a wave absorbing particle that makes compact nuclear reactors safe and has the fun side effect of killing guided munitions and radio as well. Plus it's origin in space is sound as AMBRAC is honestly a good fuel saving policy, let alone being able to operate in space and ground lends well to a limb system.

    Until IRL there's a solution to the guided missile question we'll never see them, as a load bearing limb will just be an RPG magnet and the height based scouting boost useless in a world of drones.

    That all said I could see small mechs be used in construction eventually, and I could then see people strapping guns to them out of desperation to become the new Toyota helix of shit African militia

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >very large direct fire and anti-material support
      >high irregular terrain mobility -- tanks on the mountains changes alpine warfare considerably
      >ability to take cover and lower profile in ways unavailable to conventions vehicles
      >vertical obstacle clearing with jet packs
      >doubles for vehicle recovery and entrenching machinery
      The proper size of one is debatable, but they wouldn't be useless.

      >shake up in technology
      FOB reactors being teased as operational are small, quiet, clean (and cold), enough to scale to a mech form factor with ease.

      A humanoid robot of that scales only real practicality would be human versatility and environment manipulation and a large scale.
      Basically think of all the things a handy-man, gardener, engineer or other kind of construction worker can do within their scale space and all the hand tools they can use to accomplish those tasks.
      Giant humanoid robot would be able to do similar things but at a larger scale.
      They would basically be the only needed construction machinery at a building site if they have the right giant robot hand tools and power tools rather than a bunch of different specialised machinery. They can act as cranes and lift stuff, they can dig big holes, they can insert pylons, weld giant metal beams, move and pour cement not just at ground level but above ground, landscape, chop down a tree move the log rip out the roots etc etc.

      >and environment manipulation and a large scale
      This, more extensive fortifications faster would be the most practical use.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is ALL about economics. If mechs are mass-produced in such numbers as to become affordable, then they will take off. They cannot be a walking Armata too valuable to lose.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A humanoid robot of that scales only real practicality would be human versatility and environment manipulation and a large scale.
    Basically think of all the things a handy-man, gardener, engineer or other kind of construction worker can do within their scale space and all the hand tools they can use to accomplish those tasks.
    Giant humanoid robot would be able to do similar things but at a larger scale.
    They would basically be the only needed construction machinery at a building site if they have the right giant robot hand tools and power tools rather than a bunch of different specialised machinery. They can act as cranes and lift stuff, they can dig big holes, they can insert pylons, weld giant metal beams, move and pour cement not just at ground level but above ground, landscape, chop down a tree move the log rip out the roots etc etc.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming we follow the "Laws" of UC, they're basically useless on the ground except for suits that can hover like the Dom; most Zakus, including the J type, in the OYW were dispatched by the M61A5 tank. I'm assuming the universe logic for why ground-based mobile suits were used is simply because Zeon placed a primacy on their manufacture over traditional jets and tanks.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn't a battletech mech like the dragon or catapult be more viable though?
    >Long range missile/fire support platform
    >Radar jamming and AMS systems
    >Some have jump jets for getting into sneaky fire support positions to Black person the enemy like the grasshopper

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My prediction for any practical use of these huge humanoid war machines
    >Space warfare only
    >0 z-force so the mecha can easily move
    >basically a armed space suit to protect soldiers from the environment first and combat later
    >why not just use space ship? Because you still need grunts to get down there to take over space stations, artificial living habitat, or giant capital ship etc etc
    >since those are still structures built by human for human so a humanoid form is the easiest to operate inside them

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is zero practical reason for a man shaped robot and none of this defends that position.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same reason why we evolved to stand on two feet
        So our hands can multi task while still be able to travel complex environment, which those space structures will be

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Low IQ: Gundams / mechs will never be feasible. They're extremely impractical and have no real usecase
    >High IQ: I will commit myself to the advancement of humanity such that we develop technologies so powerful that we can make devastating mechs purely to sate our ego and bully lesser developed alien species, regardless of how impractical they are

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we can make devastating mechs purely to sate our ego and bully lesser developed alien species, regardless of how impractical they are
      IIRC, 'dabbing on poor spacenoids and reminding them of our superiority' was the actual in universe justification for humanoid mecha in Gundam Wing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're not wrong, Leo's were occupation machines, not warfighters, hence why the Gundams were so effective

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      2070 NATO field test be like

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Minkovsky particle jamming would upend warfare as we know it, and the reactors technology in general.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make a viable Gundam and prove me wrong.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Author said Gumdam create micro earthquake each walk, it's uncomfortable for pilots. It should only uses in low gravity, but israeli toy company refused this idea

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're great for big monsters that need to get grappled

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You couldn't make this movie today because of Western animosity toward Rusnya and chinks and vice-versa.

      Also, the Russian robot would be non-functional because someone sold its reactor for vodka.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Went there last December, was pretty neat. The ticket comes with a small gundam assembly kit.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    mecha a shit.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    not very
    square-cube is a b***h

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      MS avoid this by being comically undense.
      Most UC suits weigh in the ballpark of a modern mbt somehow

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A Rick Dom weighs about as much as a leopard 1 it's very silly

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Battletech mechs have the approximate density of styrofoam

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all. There is no fricking way we can keep that balanced. On top of that the legs are huge weak point.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Megabots thought us anything, there is no market for IRL /m/. Looks like the military industrial complex is laughing with us.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn the hype died as soon as the VS program Aired on Twtich.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't know Zack Galifianakis was on that show.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always been thinking about how Minovsky Particles work, and how they jam all forms of telecommunications...
    But couldn't one program a missile to detect the disruption and automatically steer itself into the epicenter of a Minovsky disruption wave? It feels like it would be a hurdle eventually overcome by conventional military weapons.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If battery weight/density is a problem for exoskeletons. Why not make a gas-powered exoskeleton?

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Breed for 7 hours 40 minutes straight

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

        I kinda wanna go frick my wife now

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    literally just tanks but more complicated and worse.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If giant robots are ever practical, they will be relatively small and more useful for logistics than warfare. Arms are good at lifting, guns are good at shooting. No reason to give arms to something that needs to shoot.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't. In universe the Gundam are only useful because of minovsky particles making remote controlled and guided stuff unusable. Also sulletta is cute and quess is a stupid head.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does this thread appear at least once per week

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      A third of /k/ users are /m/

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Completely impractical, until someone does it.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >massive robot
    >huge target on radar; no stealth
    >weapons platform but also a giant target
    >we have stealth aircraft that can drop similar firepower
    >a corvette sized warship with legs, what’s going to power it?
    >a ship with legs that can fly on its own power
    Mech warrior was much more realistic, having a machine take on human ergonomics isn’t efficient. A tracked movement uses much less energy than legs and this platform is going to be really heavy and not able to fly.

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