How much of a meme pistol is the Largo Alien? Has anyone shot one of these? Around $6k for this with kit.

How much of a meme pistol is the Largo Alien? Has anyone shot one of these? Around $6k for this with kit.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s the ultimate gamer gun. You buy one to mag dump into static targets to impress all the other USPSA spergs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you really should try uspsa, its fun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sour grapes.

      https://i.imgur.com/HJ6AmjI.jpg

      How much of a meme pistol is the Largo Alien? Has anyone shot one of these? Around $6k for this with kit.

      It's a meme because we can't have it, but as a gun it's probably really good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      idk anon that sounds like fun

      20 years from whenever their patent is issued

      how much of the concept is actually patented?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PSA clone when? Until then I slumber.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      20 years from whenever their patent is issued

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I could virtually guarantee you nobody on /k/ has ever even held one.

    That said the system is pretty cool. It's taking the gas delay system from the Hk p7 and Walther CCP, both of which are considered to be extremely soft shooting, and moving the piston to the top in an effort to fix the main complaint from of the HK and Walther which is that the frames get very hot after just a few magazines.
    They packaged that recoil management system into a race gun and I believe added fixed sights/optic.... iirc.
    I have no doubt that it is an absolutely fantastic shooting firearm that will inevitably price itself out of existence.
    It's dimensions and grip also make it useless as a conceal carry pistol, making it virtually useless to most people. Personally, when it comes to handguns, I'm only interested in small conceal carry guns and powerful outdoorsman guns. I would much rather have an HK p7 and if the Walther CCP came with an ambi-safety, or no safety, I would have already bought one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My favorite part is that Laugo markets it as striker fired despite it being an internally hammer fired SAO so it is "legal" for Production.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It *isn't* production legal and has to play in limited or open. Same as the RIA 5.0, another internal hammer gun.

        Kind of stupid since fully cocked strikers are basically SAO and nobody has problems with P320s, Q5s, or TP9s on the production list. Fuck, the Walthers and clones are literally just the SA mechanism from the P99.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It *isn't* production legal and has to play in limited or open.
          do you really think a european firearms design team situated in the Czech Republic cares about USPSA instead of international IPSC ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is an /hg/ anin that has one. Not the basic version either, the special deluxe murika edition.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ive fingerbanged one at a uspsa match. Owner was stripping it as he had failures in the stage prior. Seemed neat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I held and disassembled one at a "gun show" (more about hunting and such) and fingerfucked it to the level the guys from the company thought I was trying to copy their shit and started reminding me they have it patented lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it's anything like the CCP I used to own, it gets insanely hot with repeated shooting. Me and 2 friends put probably 250 rounds through it, and I literally had to let it sit and cool on the table before I could put it back in my bag for fear of it melting something. A nice gun to shoot, just not for a whole range session

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Waste of money unless you're big into competition, only buy if you're a bored dentist with too much money.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    100% meme.

    Muzzle flip matters less than returning to the same place after recoil without input from the shooter. This means a balance of the force of the slide going into battery with the force of the slide hitting the frame during recoil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Muzzle flip matters less than returning to the same place after recoil without input from the shooter
      Yes, neutral grip is key, but the less disturbance to the shooter the easier a neutral grip is to maintain.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I just don't see this thing ousting 2011s in the same price bracket. The cool thing about the design is the stationary optic mounting in a "duty gun" shaped package.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Less flip means you return faster. I could return to the target perfectly after every shot with a snub nose .500 S&W, but the time it takes me to bring the muzzle down from 90° skyward is going to be the primary limiting factor. Similarly, I bet you could shoot an airsoft gun more rapidly and accurately than a .22lr. The better your gun resists being moved off-target, the faster you'll be at getting back on target.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I bet you could shoot an airsoft gun more rapidly and accurately than a .22lr
        Actually it's about equal, the best shooters in the world interchange pretty seamlessly between air and 22lr

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >without input from the shooter

        Think about it again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wont disagree that less recoil is better. It's less taxing on the hands/wrists, easier for newer shooters to learn. Etc. But you're wrong on all technical accounts for the simple fact no one can shoot at the cycle pace of a pistols slide, not even Jerry Miculek. A Glock with a giggle switch thrown in it, or a Beretta for example, are all capable of firing at 1,100rpm due to how fast the slide cycles. The worlds best shooters are doing 350rpm at best. Real life isn't like a video game that forces you to slow down between shots to balance Damage and DPS. Now... This might KINDA be the case among untrained shooters who think the force of a 9mm is too much and it causes them to flinch and input all this extra unnecessary force into the gun and mess up their following sight picture, so they're forced to slow down and reacquire the sights they counter intuitively keep messing up, but a trained shooter will see ZERO difference in splits between a 9mm, a 22lr, or a 40s&w. All three slides will have completed their cycle faster than the human eye, mind, and hand can react to.

        Brian Enos talks about this in his book, and so do a bunch of other competition guys. What matters is that the sights come back on target. And that is dependent mostly on the shooter getting used to the gun and it's recoil pattern, but also preventing muzzle dip by using lighter recoil springs.

        This is why the Sig P320 Max, one of the most highly used competition guns is competitive despite the extremely high bore axis. Same goes for the Beretta that guys like JJ Recaza keep winning with.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Low bore axis is a total meme, having a solid non-reciprocating surface to mount optics onto pistols is the future though. Obviously the desert eagle did it decades ago, but now that a high profile 9mm has done it; expect it to gradually become a standard feature over coming years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Low bore axis is a total meme
      Soft disagree. Low bore axis is over-hyped, but its not a non-factor especially if you're heavy into competition and are skilled enough to be chasing tiny optimizations.
      Its noticeable even with my shitty rhino. Rhinos are absolutely not well-made race guns, but even on them you can definitely notice the difference.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Revolvers are gonna be a bit different due to the lack of a reciprocating slide. There's nothing mechanical going on to counteract muzzle rise so less is better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think if bore axis mattered as much as people thought it did, most of the top ranking USPSA open guns wouldn't be some flavor of 2011.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but USPSA for a long time defacto banned 9x19mm and even now require handloading or a limited number of certified ammunition types. .38 Super meanwhile is designed for 1911s & 2011s and there is a lot of inertia behind it. The other arbitrary requirements also lock out other guns.
          Meanwhile in IPSC, guns like the Shadow 2 are ridiculously popular and low bore axis is a very popular feature. Not to imply IPSC doesn't have its share of arbitrary rules, just that rulesets have to be taken into account.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why? That seems fuddish

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >seems fuddish
              I mean the whole reason major power factor is even a thing was to provide 45ACP chucking 1911s a points advantage to counter their lower capacity vs the wonder 9s. 38 Super was a push for capacity while maintaining mpf, and then .40 doublestacks came along and shit all over 1911s in general for 30 years until people figured out the feed geometry and magazines to support pissing hot mpf 9mm 2011s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The S2 is also super popular in USPSA production you goober. Production/ has always been scored on minor power factor in both USPSA and IPSC.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Basically my take, but I like the low bore axis because it will translate very well into compacts and subcompacts.
      You're right too in that the desert eagle, that israeli meme gun was on the right track, its just the caliber being it's defining feature it was at a dead end marketing wise

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$6k for this with kit
    One thing is for sure: If I ever spend such a sum on a gun it will be something from Wilson Combat not some meme company

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice to shoot, easy to shoot a 25m group as if I was 10m away. Overpriced as fuck though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Nice to shoot
      Pretty much my thoughts. My IPSC club had one, I shot it a bit, wasn't super impressed but thought it was nice. The price is absurd to me considering it is in the same range or greater than many truly custom and bespoke pistols here in Yuroland. Dunno why it's €6000 when that price gets you guns such as Janz, two German X6 P226s, two Sphinx or Phoenix pistols, two Manurhins, a Delta AR Top Gun, you name it. Think it costs more than a lot of winning 2011s despite us getting a hefty markup for importing Atlas or STI guns.

      Very cool that you have one, hope it lasts your whole life anon.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Largo

    Why is it so hard for burgers to memorize a 5 letter word without fucking up at least once?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One of my friends has one, so I got to put two mags through it few months back. It was with iron sights though.

    Recoil is pretty sharp consedering LOL 9mm and how heavy the pistol the pistol is, but as intended there is basically no muzzle flip, so follow-up shots can be really fast. Grip angle in basic model is pretty close to Glock, which those customed to 1911-esque grip might find problematic. Ergonomics are otherwise good and iron sights are good as well. Trigger is ok, but nothing spectacular.
    What I remember recoil spring is pretty heavy for 9mm, so racking the slide requires bit of force.

    IMHO Laugo Alien makes more sense with red-dot than irons. But I also consider it over-prized for what it is.

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, shit is overpriced, even here in Czech Republic it costs about 4950 burger bucks. The pistol has bunch of retarded shapes and design features that are a bitch to manufacture, but still expensive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Largo Alien
      >$6k
      4.5 Lb trigger pull..... Thanks OP, LMAO

      yeah the trigger is shit for the price of the gun

      but don't forget it's meant as an IPSC PRODUCTION gun and not a STANDARD gun

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >meant as an IPSC PRODUCTION gun and not a STANDARD
        Agreed...... It's a Davidson qualified 5lb trigger pull regulated handgun.
        So, a foolish $6k purchase for a production pistol.
        G17 Gen5 MOS, $ 700ish would be the wise choice platform.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >largo alíen
    >literally long alien

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Largo Alien
    >$6k
    4.5 Lb trigger pull..... Thanks OP, LMAO

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's the new glock.
    Sure it's not worth anywhere near the 6k on the price tag, but there's features here that are genuinely superior to the 9mm on the market currently (most of which use ancient actions) and these new features will find their way into later "economy" aliens.

    The economy alien will kill all the wonder 9mms on the market eventual

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope another manufacturer makes a subcompact version under patent. Basically an upgrade of the Walther ccp.
    While arguably the fixed optics mount becomes less relevent, it would be objectively the best subcompact on the market. Where muzzlev flip is the worst to begin with, that's where this belongs.

    In the future optics will change considerably, i genuinely thing they will replace traditional optics with computer feedback, your optic will just be a camera, and there's going to be an era of shooting around corners with monocles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >your optic will just be a camera, and there's going to be an era of shooting around corners with monocles.
      Calm down, there, FELIN.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, is this sold by Alienware?
    120% maymay gun, but you knew that before you made the thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >$6k for this with kit
      One thing is for sure: If I ever spend such a sum on a gun it will be something from Wilson Combat not some meme company

      >meme company
      This gun was invented by the same guy that invented the Scorpion EVO 3 and sold the design to CZ

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And? Plenty of reputable engineers design meme guns, his original design was undoubtedly not covered in a quintillion random cuts on a 9-axis CNC. Eugene Stoner, Reed Knight, James Sullivan, Wilhelm Bubits, Robert Hirt, etc all have made meme guns. Just because you have a talented engineer doesn't make you not a meme company, they wouldn't have had to sell the Evo design to CZ if they could actually produce it for a reasonable amount which would make them competitive.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >And?
          so I'm going to give his opinion a hell of a lot more consideration than I give yours, and so will most right-thinking people

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I shot it once. It´s kinda cool but I can´t really appreciate the difference between this and a $2k gun. So unless money were of no concern to me I wouldn´t buy one.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shot two boxes through one, it was a loan gun naturally. Very weird recoil, kinda like a .22lr, as in nonexistent, but big nonexistent. Ergos are okay, but nothing to write home about. Trigger is very good but again not the best I've tried. Nothing apart from the recoil impulse characteristics stood out for me, wasn't that memorable, would've been disappointed had it been mine.

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