Turkey bought S400. And Turkey is fricking up Russian AA since then
This is what I have been thinking for a while. As triggered as the US was about it and worrying that they'd leak F-35 and Patriot secrets, it was the Russians that got played the whole time.
This. I don't know if US being buttmad about it was part of the plan or just Turks being turks trying to play both sides, but it's obvious they inspected the S400 very carefully
I mean a "plan" to make putin feel like xaxaxa we are dismantling hato, as they wouldn't be able to purchase the missiles otherwise. My gut feeling tells me they will get the F35s sooner or later anyway, maybe after their election in 2023
Could honestly be either. CIA and Turks are both old, old hands at playing reindeer games like that. The Turks are also Muslims and naturally untrustworthy and may just be doing whatever they feel, perhaps trying to buy their way back into the US's good graces.
Plus any country limited to s300 due to finances can't really fight a war against an advanced opponent anyway. If the only AA you can afford is s300, you're gonna get curbstomped by default. Might as well just surrender
Some African dictator who needs a cheap system for parade a couple times a year and you cant buy anything else because you have a fetish for decapitation.
The low altitude acquisition radar seen in the first few seconds is down, and the "Flap Lid" tracking radar is pointing away from the drone at around 0:19. It looks like the site has been struck atleast once before and then abandoned?
Why puccia don't help their alloy?
Puccia can't even help itself
Idk, it looks offline or abandoned. SAM launcher was inert to direct hit, despite usually blowing up in hueg fireworks. What.
Jesus, it's just seal-clubbing at this point
Who the frick will ever buy S-line AA systems from Russia? They are fricking dogshit
Turkey bought S400. And Turkey is fricking up Russian AA since then
Curious isn't it
This is what I have been thinking for a while. As triggered as the US was about it and worrying that they'd leak F-35 and Patriot secrets, it was the Russians that got played the whole time.
Makes me wonder what the Turkish long game is. Maybe sell both hardware specs to China for some cool Silk Road 2.0 kickbacks?
Erdoğan doesn't have a long game, he is a reactionary. He doesn't think even 1 second before he acts.
t. Turk
This. I don't know if US being buttmad about it was part of the plan or just Turks being turks trying to play both sides, but it's obvious they inspected the S400 very carefully
I mean a "plan" to make putin feel like xaxaxa we are dismantling hato, as they wouldn't be able to purchase the missiles otherwise. My gut feeling tells me they will get the F35s sooner or later anyway, maybe after their election in 2023
Could honestly be either. CIA and Turks are both old, old hands at playing reindeer games like that. The Turks are also Muslims and naturally untrustworthy and may just be doing whatever they feel, perhaps trying to buy their way back into the US's good graces.
Only Edogan. Even Serbia is buying their AA from China.
They're cheaper than alternatives and all the false hype made people think you can hit stuff other than passenger planes with it
Plus any country limited to s300 due to finances can't really fight a war against an advanced opponent anyway. If the only AA you can afford is s300, you're gonna get curbstomped by default. Might as well just surrender
The Ukrainians got very good use out of them, Russians and Russian Allie’s apparently just suck
I wonder how much of that is due to data from Western awacs and other early detection systems
Some African dictator who needs a cheap system for parade a couple times a year and you cant buy anything else because you have a fetish for decapitation.
should i feel pity for the russians at this point?
no
ONE job
webm.
It's a legendary frick up for S300 system
Was it even plugged in?
They learned nothing from the last round.
Is the idea that whatever is filming those S300 sites shouldn't be because it's obviously flying and the S300 itself should have taken it out?
Are they flying so close to get the thing to ping them so they can confirm which is the real and which is the inflatable?
I'm lost
It's not only filming the site, but also conducting strikes
Note that, the Turkish MAM series drone munition's range is less than 8 km
The low altitude acquisition radar seen in the first few seconds is down, and the "Flap Lid" tracking radar is pointing away from the drone at around 0:19. It looks like the site has been struck atleast once before and then abandoned?
what airdefense doing?
What's next? Trained pigeons taking them out?
So what happened to the mighty invincible s-400? Why is Russia not using them in their own invasion?
AGM-88 HARM and HARM-ER happened.
Did they get any confirmed s400 kills or was Russia just too puccia to send them?
recently in the Kherson offensive they were using their Frogfoots and at least 1 flanker to hit russian AD in the sector.
They also supposedly found a war to launch them from the ground at russian AD but I never saw definitive proof of that.
I'm just hoping for Fulcrums and Flankers with AIM-120s BTFO'ing russians in the sky eventually.
ASB Military News coped by saying "ha ha these turkroach optics are so shitty." How will Bayraktar ever recover after such a stone cold own.
no one tell them theyre german optics designed for police helicopters lmao
turkey manufactures its own optics too, for example:
https://www.aselsan.com.tr/en/capabilities/electro-optic-systems/air-platforms/aselflir200-electrooptical-reconnaissance-and-surveillance-system
yes but the optic in question is the ARGOS-ii from hensoldt that was designed for police/border guard helicopters.
ahh, I thought you were implying Turks cant produce their stuff, only buy and assemble them
the optics from aselsan are way better too. i guess azerbaijan went for argos-ii because its cheaper and does seem to get the job done anyway.
Turkish Aselsan cats is still decades ahead of Russian optics
WHAT IF the Armenians simply havent turned on their AA? just a thought
jeez vova, you forgot to turn on your S300s for two conflicts?
>two
Did you forget Syria?
>three
Also Libya
I don't think S300s turn on.
they do for Ukrainians lol.
sounds like a skill issue.
Armenia is like an Indian reservation. Everybody that was high IQ left a long time ago. It's just the bottom of the barrel now.
Azers growing some balls now that russia has been exposed as a failed state.
It's a feel so supreme