How much can you do with .22 CB?

How much can you do with .22 CB? Or rather how much do you really lose out on in real world use vs full power .22lr loadings, in what you can hunt and the practical ranges you can hunt at? What I've heard makes it sound like they can do most of what people use .22 rifles for while being safe to shoot without earpro from a rifle length barrel, with the only downside being cost.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It can literally do the exact same things one would expect .22LR to do, that's the irony

    And many reasons people like the .22LR, the .22 short does better - even lighter, even smaller, even less recoil and noise

    It even feeds in a lot of manually operated guns made for .22LR

    It just shows how outdated .22LR is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In terms of energy, those CBs have ~1/3 of the muzzle energy of 22lr.
      Does that matter for target shooting? No, aside from not cycling in semiautos chambered for 22LR.
      For pest control? More than adequate.
      For noise control without a suppressor? It'll be quieter than bulk 22LR, but something like Aguila Colibri rounds will be even quieter.

      >It just shows how outdated .22LR is
      Are there any magazine-fed semi-autos that shoot 22 shorts? Something akin to the 10/22 or Mark pistols? My gut tells me a round that small, short, and rimmed would be a bitch to feed correctly in anything but a tube.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There were semi auto pistols chambered in .22 short. The Beretta Minx for example.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There’s some odd 10/22 conversions to accept 22short but you need to find the proprietary mags bolt and springs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In terms of energy, those CBs have ~1/3 of the muzzle energy of 22lr.
      Does that matter for target shooting? No, aside from not cycling in semiautos chambered for 22LR.
      For pest control? More than adequate.
      For noise control without a suppressor? It'll be quieter than bulk 22LR, but something like Aguila Colibri rounds will be even quieter.

      >It just shows how outdated .22LR is
      Are there any magazine-fed semi-autos that shoot 22 shorts? Something akin to the 10/22 or Mark pistols? My gut tells me a round that small, short, and rimmed would be a bitch to feed correctly in anything but a tube.

      Are you aware that.22short and .22cb have the same energy as an 200usd break action air rifle where pellets are 1/5 the cost and suppressors unregulated?

      Or are you just straight up mentally retarded and wishes to pay more than 10 cpr for air rifle performance?

      Oh and the browning 1900 semi auto rifle cycle 22 shorts if you're into that shit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        False

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you aware that.22short and .22cb have the same energy as an 200usd break action air rifle where pellets are 1/5 the cost and suppressors unregulated?
        Only break barrel I'm aware of that can match the .22 CB loading in the OP is that Hatsan 135 that weighs 9.6 lbs (and costs $300 but that's not that much more given the ammo savings). You aren't matching modern full power .22 short loadings with anything that isn't a $700+ PCP gun (without counting the support hardware) that either fires .25 or larger pellets or .22 slugs, either of which will start setting you back as much as .22lr if not more and typically can't be found locally.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is $112. https://www.airgundepot.com/crosman-vantage-air-rifle.html#CVAN82W
          it exceeds 22 cb in power
          this is not a super special anything and you can find a bunch more pellet guns with the same specs

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >retard thinks velocity is everything
            The ammo in the OP throws a 29 grain bullet at 710 FPS for 32.5 ft lbs. That pellet gun is making half that.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Break barrels run around 25 ft lbs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The gun that was linked makes 16 ft lbs.

                That's what it says on the box. In reality it's probably 600 fps and some change. I have a .25 break barrel I bought for like a hundred bucks new that will shoot 20 grn pellet at 700 fps. I can get a $300 PCP that will shoot 43grn pellet at 850 fps. Also pellets come in different shapes and there are some that penetrate better than the other also different accuracy.

                >I have a .25 break barrel I bought for like a hundred bucks new that will shoot 20 grn pellet at 700 fps
                Yeah, and with .25 pellets you're now at best undercutting current .22lr prices by a cent, and won't break even vs current .22 CB prices in a .22 rifle you already own until the 2500 round point.

                >I can get a $300 PCP that will shoot 43grn pellet at 850 fps
                Not at $300, and especially not when considering the support hardware necessary to shoot a PCP airgun. At that point you're also talking about .30 pellets which will set you back around 12c/pellet at the cheapest vs the 7c/round you can get .22lr for right now or 10c you can get .22 CB for.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Umarex origin is literally 299$. And you can get a pump for it for like 59$ on Amazon. The cheapest pellets I'm looking on Amazon right now, are some vortex brand and they are 200 pieces for $8.99 I bought a can of 200 Benjamin pellets from my big5 the other day for like 12$. Better brands will probably run for 15-20 bucks.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Umarex origin
                Is not making 850 FPS with 43 grain pellets, and pellets that heavy in .25 will be running you about 10c/pellet even if you had a PCP rifle that could.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it can. It has a hammer spring that can be adjusted from the outside and if you turn it all the way out it will get you 70 fpe with that 43grn pellet. Those pellets are actually cheap because they are probably not very accurate. But like I said 45- 50 fpe is plenty for a 25 caliber air gun. Also pellets don't stabilize good at speeds over 850 fps slugs do better at higher velocity but yes they cost more and waste more air because you need more spring tension so you get less shots per fill while only gaining 15-20 more fpe.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So it comes to really 1c pr. I personally think that 25 cal is plenty enough for an air gun you get decent enough energy and a decent shot count on one fill, and if you really want more muzzle energy just go with a firearm.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's what it says on the box. In reality it's probably 600 fps and some change. I have a .25 break barrel I bought for like a hundred bucks new that will shoot 20 grn pellet at 700 fps. I can get a $300 PCP that will shoot 43grn pellet at 850 fps. Also pellets come in different shapes and there are some that penetrate better than the other also different accuracy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Only break barrel I'm aware of that can match the .22 CB loading in the OP is that Hatsan 135 that weighs 9.6 lbs (and costs $300 but that's not that much more given the ammo savings).
          >look it up
          >it's also available in .30 caliber
          >the .30 caliber model with penetrate about 12" into ballistics gel
          holy shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >my mans never heard of the Girandoni

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or I can just keep shooting my Single Six with anything from shorts to magnums. Let's see your airgun match 22 magnum.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What are you shooting that needs the performance .22 magnum brings to the table though?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Me? Nothing. The gun came with the cylinder and I'm not retarded enough to dismiss the capability to shoot up to 22 magnum in the same gun I shoot cheap 22LR in and can step down to 22 shorts. In the hypothetical SHTF situation, I'd rather have the revolver than any other pistol.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >b-but muh SHTF
              God I hate how much this gets pushed as a reason to drop money on capabilities that you don't even know a use for.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And who the fuck are you to tell people what they should or shouldn't enjoy? I bet you don't even own a 22, let alone one of those cuck air rifles you keep talking about.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And who the fuck are you to tell people what they should or shouldn't enjoy?
                >those cuck air rifles
                There are machine learning based text generators that have demonstrated more self awareness than you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't Shorts and LRs flop around in the chamber because of the bullshit taper on the Winchester?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The WMR case has a larger diameter throughout compared to 22LR and co. I'd imagine a high velocity 22LR wouldn't obturate enough to get a good gas seal, let alone 22 short. Should still shoot, but you'd lose velocity and probably get a bunch of gas blown onto your hand.
            Some Single Sixes came with a cylinder for WMR. Their timed and matched with the gun at the factory, so buying one afterwards is a bitch. The Rough Rider revolvers will also shoot WMR with a cylinder swap.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's right.
        If those 22cb and shorts are 1/3 the energy of 22lr as

        In terms of energy, those CBs have ~1/3 of the muzzle energy of 22lr.
        Does that matter for target shooting? No, aside from not cycling in semiautos chambered for 22LR.
        For pest control? More than adequate.
        For noise control without a suppressor? It'll be quieter than bulk 22LR, but something like Aguila Colibri rounds will be even quieter.

        >It just shows how outdated .22LR is
        Are there any magazine-fed semi-autos that shoot 22 shorts? Something akin to the 10/22 or Mark pistols? My gut tells me a round that small, short, and rimmed would be a bitch to feed correctly in anything but a tube.

        states, you're at break barrel power levels. Those run around 1/4 22lr.
        I'll note using air rifles is more about getting into areas that don't allow firearms. Aside from that it's a preference.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wasnt .22 short made first though?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I refuse to be a stampcuck, while also knowing 22lr is not hearing safe even with quiets so I hoard this stuff (along with aguila super and regular colibri) whenever I find it cheap

    It actually feeds out of my cz 457 but I have to tip the gun sideways when ejecting or else it gets stuck in the chamber

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love 22 short for my Henry's repeater. 12 rather than 10 rounds in the magazine, no ear pro needed, and my neighbour's don't complain

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have an old Winchester Model 1890 that my Grandfather shot 22 shorts in during WW2 because they couldn't get 22lr. After the war he had to rebarrel the rifle because the shorts had distorted the chamber and long cases wouldn't extract reliably anymore.
    This rifle was made in the early 1900s so perhaps this wouldn't be a problem with more modern barrels.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that could still happen with modern barrels. its just lead/carbon ring buildup in the chamber.
      its fixable but at the same time a bitch to actually clean up if the bulid up gets too bad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i love the artwork on some of the stocks. there was also a super rare sniper rifle one off made for a rich kid apparently that went up for auction. it had a really cool scope check it out

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, that's beautiful.
        Mine was a bit of a garbage rod having spent that last 100+ years in the hands of kids. Despite the hard life, it works fine apart from a few very minor issues and it's still a lot of fun to shoot.
        It's gone through five generations of my family. It belongs to my Niece and Nephew now.
        I wish I have a pic of it to post. It would make quite a contrast to the one in the vid.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no worries about posting a pic . to many glowmorons here anyways.

          the 1890 was just built to last. i love the corncob grip and the fact that u can slam fire it.

          hard to imagine they let kids use these in shooting galleries all over the usa. but that was when the usa was ruled by white people and a white majority. good times.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can kill alot or at least disable lot of things with that round. i like them. but prefer CB longs for bolt actions or CCI 40 gr HP subsonics for muh 10/22.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just use a pellet gun at that point

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How much can you do with .22 CB? Or rather how much do you really lose out on in real world use vs full power .22lr loadings, in what you can hunt and the practical ranges you can hunt at?
    TLDR for hunting air guns are at lower end of 22CB but really comes down to whether you can use a firearm at all. For target it's just preference.
    See pic related, off the Gamo website.
    22LR does something like 100 FPE. Per this thread, 22CB is around 33 FPE.
    Air rifle break barrels are ~20 FPE in .177 or .22 pellet, and for PCP rifles pic related is probably indicative of the slugs for these.
    For hunting, you need something strong enough to kill what you shoot at, that you can carry there. I hunt in areas that don't allow firearms, with break barrels strong enough to kill what I shoot. I like that the guns require virtually no maintenance or cleaning, outside cleaning the blood off the barrel for finish shots.
    I would switch to 22LR in a heartbeat if I could. The kill shots could be less precise if I used that. If all I had was 22CB... would probably carry the air rifle so I didn't have to clean it afterwards.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that pic
      Is there really that little that people might want to shoot between raccoons and deer?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess, you "need" more.

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