How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
Should I start by self studying chemistry and lab practices to make sure I don't blow myself?
Or just give up and try to smuggle a crate of grenades.
How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
>talk about bombs in boards
>talk about bombs on phone
>get glowie attention
>talk about assasinating trump with whoever on the phone
>get supplied by explosives by glowies
>...
>profit
the only thing I want to assassinate are stumps and and watermelons
Just get some tannerite
I don't want to trump this thread but it would be unpresidented if the federals arent biden their time waiting to see if OP is going to buy his bomb ingredients at his local 9/11 and harmus all.
she ruined a generation of males
What?
billions died
RDX is fucking trivial to make at home. Water, ammonia, formaldehyde, nitric acid.
literally whomst?
>RDX is fucking trivial to make at home
Kek, care to post the synthesis? I looked into it before going with ETN / NG.
Every time I post anything more than a bare mention, the thread gets deleted and I get banned.
Not that I care, I'm on a phone, I just go into the settings screen and swipe mobile data "off" and then "on" and wa-la.
Anyway, mix formaldehyde and ammonia in aqueous solution, be sure to use a little excess ammonia so you don't end up with formaldehyde stinking up the place. Evap. Congrats, you now have a pile of hexamine.
Hexamine plus nitric equals RDX. If you want to reduce your nitric usage, add some ammonium nitrate so that some of the -NO2 comes from that.
Be warned that RDX crystalline powder can detonate randomly from bad handling, which is why you add plasticizer or phlegmatizer to it ASAP.
BTW, you can look up the patents. All this stuff is in patents. I even read one a while ago on synthesizing carfentanyl. I have no idea how easy the weird precursor is to get, but it was supposedly the world's most efficient way to synthesize it at that time. Just in case you ever need to tranquilize an elephant or an Italian grandmother.
who
Just get a license from the BATFE its not hard you dubmass.
Very easy. The hard part about making explosives is making ones that only explode when you want them to and ones that are of a consistent and predictable magnitude.
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Best post itt.
>newfag
Homemade weapons and explosives used to be staple threads on this board. File dumps for the FGC-9, instructions on making your own explosives, discussing how to make your own smokeless powder, etc. That shit used to be popular until fags like you started acting like any discussion about weapons on the fucking weapons board was some CIA op to no knock you.
Yes, it's hard. There's a lot of variables that go into the production and storage and it only takes one being slightly off for something catastrophic to happen. You might make it flawlessly and then set it aside for later when you feel like blowing shit up for fun. Then there's a hot day which speeds up the degradation of your explosive and the degradation itself is exothermic and it causes a bit of a cascade scenario and detonates itself for example. Either that or something simple like some static discharge as you pick it up causes it to detonate and now your hands are gone.
It's entirely possible to create your own and have no problems. You need to be very aware of the risks and actively manage them though. It is very dependent on what you make as well though so you do need to specifically research what you're making.
How do real factories do it without blowing up?
experience and instiutional knowledge.
there have been a shitload of accidents at factories through the years.
even this one less than 2 weeks ago.
https://www.ksnblocal4.com/2023/10/16/victim-identified-deadly-explosion-hornady-plant-near-grand-island/
Sometimes they don't. Honaday just had a serious explosion recently making primers. This is at a place that has deep expertise in various propellants on an industrial scale and safety professional and budgets, even they get it wrong. Why not read up on Timothy McVeigh. He was an army trained explosives specialist and did not choose high explosives, and still destroyed a large building and killed many people, proving that you dont have to be fancy to get a big boom. He was also executed and many safegaurds put in place to make a copycat less likely. How about strength training or french cooking? Those are useful hobbies and might get you some pussy and not thrown in jail for decades.
>ANFO
>not a high explosive
So from this I'm just assuming you're not actually educated in the topic and don't know the difference, because anfo explosions are definitely, very much, absolutely high explosive detonations.
>How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
It's not secret knowledge and it's not illegal to know. However, doing it is stupid and dangerous.
>Should I start by self studying chemistry and lab practices to make sure I don't blow myself?
Practical knowledge of trade work and understanding of chemical formula or 2 very different disciplines.
>Or just give up and try to smuggle a crate of grenades.
Smuggling is illegal and grenades are considered destructive devices.
Look, it's no secret the simple techniques used in any famous bombing on U.S. soil. Any idiot is capable. On the other hand, the explosive cooking and chemistry you're talking about is complicated, dangerous and a good way to self delete. One of the common reactions generates heat and then explodes if it gets too hot. So you have to carefully keep the temperature in a certain range or you blow yourself up. More powerful explosives also require multi-step devices to get them to go off. You aren't up for it.
It also used to be that the government didn't know how to log onto the internet. The DNC openly brags about having a floor of paid people to post in the forums on their side, stuff is brought up from 10 years back and AI programs flag trends, keywords and log everything. If you weren't aware, you already have a threat level score attached to your name at the FBI. Everyone does. The world has changed.
>Look, it's no secret the simple techniques used in any famous bombing on U.S. soil. Any idiot is capable.
What about explosives that are small and stable enough to be used on quad copters?
Just use water balloons, it's more fun, cheaper and you can hit your friends with them.
I used to post in them until I got a knock, you nagger.
>complains about it
>doesn't post them himself
and you know it too you disingenuous glownagger.
Do tell sir
when i was a kid, you could buy manuals by mail order. prometheus press or something.
Paladin Press. It's now defunct but nearly their entire catalog is scanned and online as PDFs and their videos are mostly available on Youtube and archive sites.
>How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
Not very.
>Should I start by self studying chemistry and lab practices to make sure I don't blow myself?
Yes.
>How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
it's pretty easy. nitration chemistry is straight forward if you've ever actually done chemistry before.
The hard part is getting nitric acid in the first place. Depends on where you live, your best option may be to recreate Haber's original setup.
u just need a donor nitrate and sulfuric acid.
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You can buy the shit at Walmart dude
Electricity and air. See Cody'slab set up on youtube. Distill to concentrate.
Seems like it would take a fuckton of electricity.
You can just buy KNO3 stump remover, or AN fertilizer, mix them with sulfuric, and distill off the nitric. It's what I used to do in Taiwan.
if you're a hobbyist making tiny, I mean grams, of explosives for fun for the sake of chemistry, then you can probably get by with youtube or other tutorials, and the amounts are so small safety goggles will protect you.
If you're trying to cook up 30 pounds of plastic explosive in your bathtub to blow up your local government building, you're probably going to end up on the news after your house energetically rearranges itself into a crater, or if you're lucky the FBI or whoever will arrest you before that because all the materials are watched heavily and you're not smart enough to know how to get around that.
Depends, you can already do a lot with black powder and tannerite. Manufacturing high explosives is very dangerous and it's hard to source the necessary materials
>How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
on second thought, what the fuck do you mean "useful" explosives? what exact civilian activities are you doing that you need explosives for? if we had IP flags you wouldn't show up as from Gaza, would you?
If you're trying to remove a tree stump or something, you don't need to blow it up, you can just burn it by drilling holes into it and filling it with stump remover. Are you mining for gold or some shit?
What are you planning on doing with this information?
I want to cum on her face
>attraction to underaged children
Both of you need to rope.
yeah totally bro she isn't attractive at all who would think that, welcome to reddit
As opposed to adult children?
Yeah, retarded descriptions are endemic to pearl clutchers as their daily struggle with the cognitive dissonance of sex positivity (they were already slags by 14) while claiming to have the sexually moral high ground
whatever happened to saving yourself for marriage or at-least 18, are women that stupid and full of shit?
Many want to have their cake and eat it too, often literally!
Is that a cavity at the base of her right canine? Ew...
Anyway OP, you should start studying chemistry and mathematics because it will improve your life and capacity for reason, but neither are necessary to make explosives because hundreds of books exist on the subject.
You both need to lay off the porn, a picture of a fully clothed person shouldn't get a rise out of you.
Hello.. FBI?
what's the story with this girl?
A beautiful israeli angel. One of god’s chosen.
>Get a loicense.
Secondary explosives aren't that hard, but the primary explosives are.
Lees is one of god’s chosen. I hope she stayed safe during the Hamas attack.
I've actually be wondering about her status since the SMO started.
Moved to Poland.
glad to know she's safe, she has brought a lot of joy to us anons
A dokładniej?
Do zoomers seriously not know how to make explosives anymore what the fuck i thought they went all in on stem
You just mix the chloride salt with aluminum shavings, simple as
The school curriculum fagtards have deleted all of the fun chemistry from the textbooks.
I'll play OP.
Erythritol tetranitrate (ETN) & Pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) are both very safe explosives that can be easily produced by civilians with access to sulfuric acid, any nitrate salt and erythritol or pentaerythritol (common artificial sweeteners).
Check out "The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives" for the original synthesis but supplement it with modern material safety data sheets on all chems used.
It's a shame most of /k/ is too scared of their governments to exercise free speech these days.
>It's a shame most of /k/ is too scared of their governments to exercise free speech these days.
It's just the jannies. Expect this thread to go away suddenly. My RDX comment will be removed and I'll have to change IP addresses because of my imminent ban. Fucking homosexual jannies don't even let people talk about legal stuff here.
1. Get a bunch of tannerite
2. Put it inside of something that’ll cause a bunch of damage when it goes boom
3. Construct a gun powered mousetrap and attach a firearm that will set the tannerite off
4. Buy some lab rats
5. Put your looney tunes bomb in whatever building you’re targeting
6. Bait the trap and get the heck outta dodge
Have fun
i-is that who I think it is?
EODfag
Not actually hard by chemical industry standards - some are easier than cooking meth, certainly easier than making your own VX.
General neatness and laboratory safety practices definitely help.
Check your local laws, often explosives mixed and used on site and not shipped or sold aren't regulated - a holdover from every farmer mixing their own ANFO on site to blow a stump compared to major mining companies mixing truckloads and driving it out to quarries.
Ditto often if you're on your own property with enough safety distance, you're not 'endangering' or threatening anybody, so not a crime either.
The only problem (apart from doggo-shooters and halfassed 'truths' from interweb nogunz experts) is that secondary explosives are comparatively safe and simple, but you either need commercial manufactured primary explosives and detonators to initiate, or you have to start making more dangerous unstable primary explosives.
>count your fingers before and after - if you get the same number, it was a successful experiment
Not a Glowie, not in Burgerland, don't own a doggo, so idgaf
guncotton was discovered entirely by accident by a civilian
he accidentally spilled nitric and sulphuric acid on a cloth, tried to rub it out with water, and then tried to iron it off
this chain of events essentially created a highly explosive piece of tablewear that went off when heated
and so guncotton became a widespread explosive in the 1800s
I fucked around with pipe bombs using a black powder recipe I found on an encyclopedia, it's really easy but at some point I got scared of blowing my face off so I stopped
I still love her
Take a mining/demolition course, get your FEL.
>Take a mining/demolition course
any terms to google?
I know for a fact that such courses are offered at places like New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology (I took explosives engineering courses there) and at Colorado School of Mines.
Is it like part of an engineering bachelors degree or can you do trade school type thing.
I did them as electives. If you want a degree in it it was a full bachelor when I was there. it's definitely not a trade school kind of thing, lots of regulations and math.
EODfag
Commercial shotfirers courses for basic quarrying are usually 'trade-school' level and on-job training 2-3week courses, but you can also get more elaborate courses at university level up to Explosive Chemistry to design new explosives.
Extremely easily, even if you buy chemicals in large quantities, the feds will probably take years before they actually come for a visit to ask what they're for.
I've never made explosives (and anyone who says I have is lying), but I do have a couple books on the subject.
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=15175de7da1579fe997b3c293ef0a202&t=share-document
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=d7ceffdb8f3d411b7f3b5df6c9df54a7&t=share-document
Wait have I seen her somewhere before?
who is she?
Best place to ask this, but I need to know if aircraft unguided bombs would be susceptible to a sympathetic explosion if a plastic explosive was directly planted onto it. I know they're fairly stable, but that seems too powerful a detonation source for them to not vaporize everything in the immediate vicinity.
Before you ask, it's legitimately for a story. In specific, it's 10lbs of Composition C-4 stuck in between some M117 bombs. I want to just have something blown up by the C-4 itself, but after I dug up FM 5-25 and FM 3-34.214 I'd be needing a man sized amount of explosives.
>directly planted onto it.
totally depends on the filler. it would be most likely to work if you stuck it on/around the fuse and had it kick off the primary explosive in there. I think it's believable either way, though.
Thanks Anons, you've been extremely helpful
EODfag
Assuming your C4 is in one block and the block is pressing against the surface of the bomb - yes.
Ideally, if there is a row, put the C4 in contact on one in the middle
And it can be done with a lot less than 10 pounds - you'd only need 1-2 pounds up against a fuze, or better if you can access the nose or tail fuze cavity of an unfuzed bomb and you can use 1/2pound to do the trick
>self insert image as an ugly bitch
why would i help you with this shit, glowie
You are such a newhomosexual namefag retard. Holy shit slit your throat
Is this a young may marmalade?
not even close though i do love may
Are remote manipulators ever used to avoid risk of blowing off your own hands?
I'm imagining it'd be slower and more tedious but you could put all the chemistry work into concrete block offset from structure and control it via robotic arms and camera feeds.
At some point you'd have to move the stuff but could do this at least until you get plasticizer added to stabilize mix.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/835540/20190905_Remote_handling_requirement_RFI_to_industry-ATTACHMENT_O_FINAL.pdf
Or, you know, cell phones or simple remote switches that produce electricity into blasting cap detonations then into your actual HE yield.
>How hard is it to make useful explosive as a civilian?
Define useful. It's trivial to make something volatile and highly energetic. It's substantially less trivial to not have a nice day in the process and transporting it. It's even less to make an explosive that would be stable and safe to handle. It's yet again further less trivial to do all of this without getting the ATF to bust you from ordering actual chemical components and lab tool.