They’re the Hyundai quality equivalent.
Artillery shells though is the really good one though. The South Koreans are the only 155mm producer with an ability to produce 1 million shells/ year pre-war.
If they sell stockpiles and make new orders they’ll be even more important than the Czech initiative and US supplemental spending package.
Was this visit and "alliance" with North Korea worth it? Is getting a few rotten and faulty shells a good deal when Ukraine is now receiving state of the art equipment from South Korea?
well if russia gets attacked in the future mighty north korea will step in. this also applies to the 4 annexed regions in ukraine. lets see if kimmy keeps his word
>planning to
No. It will consider doing it. Ukraine isn't helping itself with this kind of journalism.
Here's a better question; what reason does South Korea have to not give shells to Ukraine? North Korean escalation? Putin won't pay fifty million rubbles for a Samsung S24?
I think South Korea was dependent on Russian oil and fertilizers prior to sanctions making it extraordinarily difficult to purchase.
Now that they’re buying from others the Russians lack leverage to stop the movement of military equipment. The Nork deal was the final nail to screw up any chance of holding back the South’s hungry MIC.
Yeah it probably stung a bit, but in some ways if you're getting financially murdered every day operating there, then there's no real point sticking around losing cash
the artillery is the real star of the show here. RoK's got some good system and production on that(even if I think it's an M109 clone). it's the one think both Korea's are really focused on and have gotten good at.
They have a lot of it to the point its quite silly, Russia may have kicked over an anthill diplomatically with this one, except the ant's have enough tube artillery to pretend to be a forest
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It's not about korean factories though. Many western companies sell products in China even if they don't have factory in there. South Korean products disappeared in China because nobody buy south korean product in china.
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Anonymous
it's all about the reunification war both of them have been hyping themselves up for the entire time. outside of the nuke, they've both known from the start the real decider would be artillery. in NK's case, they can shell Seoul(or at least close enough) from the border. so everyone involved knows counter-battery, heavy artillery, and a massive pile of shells is one of the first weapons they should invest in.
>air defense
Who cares >artillery shells
Very impactful. “Shell hunger” is huge on both sides and worst korean shells are at the least serviceable. Send em the about to expire stockpiles. Even 30k shells/month would be tremendous in accelerating total D30 (lol lmao) death.
Considering the global shortage of guncotton they’re going to be producing frick all artillery shells and they probably don’t have much in terms of stockpiles. How bad is the shortage? Well both Europe AND Russia are saying they’re working on an alternative. Considering China is the main supplier all of their supply is probably being snapped up by Russia and even then it’s not enough for Russia everyone else is fricked until alternative compounds are set up.
You know I thought South Korea MIGHT actually do something this time given the North-Russia pact but I was silly to expect anything from just another corrupt Asian peasant fiefdom.
>gun >cotton >nitrocellulose >cellulose
Almost as if the massive American industrial base for producing cotton and paper by nitrating it means something... >(You) moron
Reading more than headlines is often useful.
In europe alone there is multiple EU funded initiatives to fix said problem and those articles normally mention it.
the artillery is the real star of the show here. RoK's got some good system and production on that(even if I think it's an M109 clone). it's the one think both Korea's are really focused on and have gotten good at.
Link to OP's image: https://united24media.com/latest-news/south-korea-to-supply-ukraine-with-155-mm-artillery-shells-and-air-defense-systems-853
Which in turn just gleans the following from this article: https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240621006000315 >S. Korea's level of arms supply to Ukraine hinges on Russia's actions: presidential office >Among potential weapons under consideration are 155-mm artillery shells, as well as air defense systems, which are needed in Ukraine, according to government sources.
>Monkeys paw >South Korea becomes prime supplier of 155mm (which they have a frick load of) >More SAMs because Ukraine wanted any they can get given the Sneed-136 spam
They’re the Hyundai quality equivalent.
Artillery shells though is the really good one though. The South Koreans are the only 155mm producer with an ability to produce 1 million shells/ year pre-war.
If they sell stockpiles and make new orders they’ll be even more important than the Czech initiative and US supplemental spending package.
Was this visit and "alliance" with North Korea worth it? Is getting a few rotten and faulty shells a good deal when Ukraine is now receiving state of the art equipment from South Korea?
well if russia gets attacked in the future mighty north korea will step in. this also applies to the 4 annexed regions in ukraine. lets see if kimmy keeps his word
>if
russia gets attacked on a daily basis
All those attacks are on Ukrainian and Chinese clay. Why would Best Korea get involved?
>planning to
No. It will consider doing it. Ukraine isn't helping itself with this kind of journalism.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, pidor.
Find me a Korean source that says Sorks will supply shells to Ukraine. It can be an English-language source.
Here's a better question; what reason does South Korea have to not give shells to Ukraine? North Korean escalation? Putin won't pay fifty million rubbles for a Samsung S24?
I think South Korea was dependent on Russian oil and fertilizers prior to sanctions making it extraordinarily difficult to purchase.
Now that they’re buying from others the Russians lack leverage to stop the movement of military equipment. The Nork deal was the final nail to screw up any chance of holding back the South’s hungry MIC.
More a case now that if they're doing business with NK, then they've shit the bed with the South
Most of the big boy companies in SK and Japan pulled out of China over 2 years ago now. It just wasn't possible to do any kind of business there
Not just factories
South Korean products have mostly disappeared from china.
And South Korean companies also cannot compete against Chinese companies
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=216069
Yeah it probably stung a bit, but in some ways if you're getting financially murdered every day operating there, then there's no real point sticking around losing cash
They have a lot of it to the point its quite silly, Russia may have kicked over an anthill diplomatically with this one, except the ant's have enough tube artillery to pretend to be a forest
It's not about korean factories though. Many western companies sell products in China even if they don't have factory in there. South Korean products disappeared in China because nobody buy south korean product in china.
it's all about the reunification war both of them have been hyping themselves up for the entire time. outside of the nuke, they've both known from the start the real decider would be artillery. in NK's case, they can shell Seoul(or at least close enough) from the border. so everyone involved knows counter-battery, heavy artillery, and a massive pile of shells is one of the first weapons they should invest in.
Antagonizing China? Samsung is already de facto banned in China.
>air defense
Who cares
>artillery shells
Very impactful. “Shell hunger” is huge on both sides and worst korean shells are at the least serviceable. Send em the about to expire stockpiles. Even 30k shells/month would be tremendous in accelerating total D30 (lol lmao) death.
How much does puccia need to piss off Samsung for them to send their Samsung Death Squads to aid Ukraine?
Well they have to change their laws so let's wait and see if they do.
Well they have to find out in Ukraine in case their own war starts and they’re shit
Considering the global shortage of guncotton they’re going to be producing frick all artillery shells and they probably don’t have much in terms of stockpiles. How bad is the shortage? Well both Europe AND Russia are saying they’re working on an alternative. Considering China is the main supplier all of their supply is probably being snapped up by Russia and even then it’s not enough for Russia everyone else is fricked until alternative compounds are set up.
You know I thought South Korea MIGHT actually do something this time given the North-Russia pact but I was silly to expect anything from just another corrupt Asian peasant fiefdom.
>gun
>cotton
>nitrocellulose
>cellulose
Almost as if the massive American industrial base for producing cotton and paper by nitrating it means something...
>(You) moron
Arguing with you /k/opers is like clubbing baby seals. What am I even doing with my life?
>believing western msm
Reading more than headlines is often useful.
In europe alone there is multiple EU funded initiatives to fix said problem and those articles normally mention it.
the artillery is the real star of the show here. RoK's got some good system and production on that(even if I think it's an M109 clone). it's the one think both Korea's are really focused on and have gotten good at.
Link to OP's image: https://united24media.com/latest-news/south-korea-to-supply-ukraine-with-155-mm-artillery-shells-and-air-defense-systems-853
Which in turn just gleans the following from this article: https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240621006000315
>S. Korea's level of arms supply to Ukraine hinges on Russia's actions: presidential office
>Among potential weapons under consideration are 155-mm artillery shells, as well as air defense systems, which are needed in Ukraine, according to government sources.
>Monkeys paw
>South Korea becomes prime supplier of 155mm (which they have a frick load of)
>More SAMs because Ukraine wanted any they can get given the Sneed-136 spam