South Ossetia being retaken is feasible (it's 50k people in total), Abkhazia is a whole different ball game - defined ethnicity with a bitter history with the Georgians and an Israeli-like insistence that to be absorbed into Georgia means genocide. It would be a damned tough place to take with the current Georgian army, even if the Russians completely tossed them to the wolves.
Kinda sucks that these ethnic groups get used as pawns in Russia's game. Like, imagine if Russia was actually interested in Ossetian autonomy and released North Ossetia.
why would they be? do you think canada is interested in Inuit autonomy?
will they ever release Nunavut to become it's own independent nation?
everyone is a pawn when it comes to geopolitics
>why would they be? do you think canada is interested in Inuit autonomy?
we are theyre pretty much free to do whatever and we send them supplies, we do have to work on decolinzation methods thou and help other groups here but they are good, I would want a free quebec and WEXIT to join the usa and small indian states and toronto and vancouver nuked
Oh right, they would fight for their right to be Russian, just like the Ukrainians would welcome them as brothers. You're going to get gang banged and you're going to like it, pidoras.
what the fuck are you talking about? Abkhazians obviously don't want to be Russian, they even voted it against it at some point. The point is they don't want to be Georgian either, thanks to soviet and later Russian fuckery.
They literally fought a war to be Russian instead of Georgian (because they are retarded and Georgians treated them like shit because Georgians were/are retarded because everyone in the caucuses is a tribalist retard)
Same in Afghanistan >geography creates small fixed populations with little contact between >create their own culture with language, ethnicity, religion etc >never have to deal with neighbours and never develop much >suddenly roads and trains and radio and tv happen >small insular communities forced to deal with other small insular communities that are extremely different from them >clearly genocide is the only reasonable solution
We are based, simple as. If you wage war you should kill your adversary and steal his land, any other form of war than ethnic war is a pussy war.
How did that pussy warfare worked out for you westoids in Irak, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Kek.
>South Ossetia being retaken is feasible
Lol, no it isn't. As seen in 08, where they held the advantage of having strategic positions within SO, and still failed.
Russia had a significant manpower and materiel advantage in place along with taking advantage of Georgian strategic blunders, and it was still enough of a shitshow that despite winning they attempted major reformations of their military. Currently Russia is a year into a 3 day military operation, its core of well-trained and professional troops have been gutted, it's conscripts and mobiks are poorly trained and equipped, and it's digging out 60s era Soviet vintage for refurbishment to replace its lost modern equipment. Georgia taking SO is in the feasible category, even if it's not in the likely category.
>it's simpler it is about weapons used to kill the bastards
If it were I would be seeing less trannie/cock sucking moron gay zog bot tier sperging about politics. This board is so shit it now has a main export which is Polish tier seethinium exports to 4chan.
Oh no no 4chansisters
Two days ago they were celebrating rightful pro-Russian rule in Georgia and now the people are rising up against rule by assrape already
If the West is serious, it would come up with a policy: Interested Georgians will receive access to the same training programs as Ukrainians, on the basis they would contribute to the Ukraine effort, and then support from Ukraine and the West would flow towards Georgia. Moldova would have the potential to do the same, galvanising their efforts, strengthening their states with a view towards long term contributions to regional stability.
The sad part is the work that everyone would have to do in the former RF, but it is what it is.
America has an interest in Ukrainians, Moldovans, Georgians and Belorussians in the same uniform being present on the old China/Russian border as long as Taiwan and the South China Sea is an issue.
South Ossetia - definitely feasible even now.
Abkhazia - much more difficult but possible, but it will likely lead to a bloody insurgency.
Both of these are assuming Russia doesn't get involved or only provides minimal assistance.
It should be not a reconquest, but a reintegration on a diplomatic basis. Unfortunately there's a lot of bad talk from both sides leading to an arab-gnomish type of relationship, in which case it's better to just leave Abkhazia alone.
Man, how funny would it be if Russia's behaviour pushed everyone away from their corrupt culture and led to every single one of their neighbors except China to suffer a coup
The Abkhazians are dead set against becoming a part of Georgia. They do not like Russia either. I think it would be a huge challenge to get them back into the fold.
It's hilarious how artificial these protests are. You go to them and nobody can speak Russian, it's all foreigners.
True Georgians support Russia and are against NATO expansion.
we havent forgot what r*ssians did to us in Abkhazia, and Samachablo in 2008. r*ssians are subhuman animals. The younger generation does not speak russian
You really fucked up when you let all the russians fleeing the war in. Crime rate will go up, everything will get worse. Tbilisi already is full of them.
With the russian "precision" and the terrain they'll never be able to hit anything there.
Just imagining a convoy of death getting stuck on a georgian serpentine mountain road... God, that makes me hard.
The one think I find funny with this is that all the Russians who fled Russia to hopefully not get affected by the war and who cucked out for Ukraine got pushed back into Russia over this.
Are you talking about the Russians that fled to Georgia? How did this result in them getting pushed out? I haven't been following the news on Georgian media outlets.
All the people who fled to Georgia are fleeing back to Russia. The news for this is any social media where retards feel comfortable with sharing their private life (Twitter, boomerbook, Reddit)
There's been reports of traffic jams with the Ivans trying to flee back to Russia because they fear they'll get the Hitler treatment.
If you don't see how they're retarded enough to do that do note Euromaidan was so vilified in Russia they ran massive campaigns claiming Banderites were purging the ethnic Russians and making knight of long knifes connections. Loosing their glowies was so traumatic for russia they basically react to EU flags the same way someone growing during the red scare would react seeing the hammer and scyckle marching through their town.
And now not only are Georgians waving the golden stars everywhere but both Russia and Georgia are calling it Euromaidan 2.0
Oh yeah, they're scared alright, and fucking idiots are going straight to the conscription office to get thrown at the meatgrinder against their will.
Good riddance.
All I can find on Twitter are Indians reeeeing about how this is a CIA-Nazi plot to cause another Maidan Revolution, and how poor widdle Russia are the ones being genocided.
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yeah propsganda machine is in full force. There were videos and tgram posts in past threads but I didn't bother saving any so you'll have to look for the archives.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do these same useful idiots think that there was an ethnic purge after the Berlin wall fell?
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Anonymous
Oh yeah, have you seen the sheer schizoid delusions of the Puccian propaganda machine? Hell they literally claimed at one point that the fall of the SU was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. I mean, even if you, for whatever insane reason, think the SU wasn't evil. Worst tragedy of the 20th century? 2 world wars, and the fall of the SU is supposed to be worse... They're fucking insane. And they love to play the genocyde card. Hell as
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All I can find on Twitter are Indians reeeeing about how this is a CIA-Nazi plot to cause another Maidan Revolution, and how poor widdle Russia are the ones being genocided.
pointed out they're ALREADY claiming Georgia is in full ethnic cleansing mode. They're that gnomish, the thin skinned gays. Gotta play the 6 gorrillion card every fucking time anyone tells them to go fuck themselves!
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Personally, I think that Russians should not be allowed to travel outside of any country that isn't BRICS. I am Japanese, and there are tons of Russians here on tourist visas. I want them all out of my country. But if they think that sending them back to their own commissars is "genocide", maybe they should do something about it.
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These are the new conflict lines that are forming right now tbh. Civilization vs despotic kings, tyrants and clannic wastelands
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Konnichiwa!
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Putin said specifically geopolitical tragedy, not tragedy in general.
There's been reports of traffic jams with the Ivans trying to flee back to Russia because they fear they'll get the Hitler treatment.
If you don't see how they're retarded enough to do that do note Euromaidan was so vilified in Russia they ran massive campaigns claiming Banderites were purging the ethnic Russians and making knight of long knifes connections. Loosing their glowies was so traumatic for russia they basically react to EU flags the same way someone growing during the red scare would react seeing the hammer and scyckle marching through their town.
And now not only are Georgians waving the golden stars everywhere but both Russia and Georgia are calling it Euromaidan 2.0
Oh yeah, they're scared alright, and fucking idiots are going straight to the conscription office to get thrown at the meatgrinder against their will.
Abkhazia has a population of ~200k. Abkhaz are a minority and most of the rest of the population are either sympathetic to Georgia or don't give a shit who rules them one way or the other. Georgia would easily run them over if Russia didn't stop it.
>If you join the EU you get showered in money
sure >corruption goes way down
haha no, corruption is still there it only changes form, eu gibs are best corruption tool
Don't know, drag in more countries in to conflict? Open another front? Russia said that any hostile actions against Transnistria propagate to Russia. Not like Ukraine cares but Moldova is probably scared.
>to close a potential front and stop having to hold troops at the ukr-trans border >to do moldova a favor that it might repay later >to do the world a favor by removing a zigger tumor from the earth
Seems like a reasonable move to me.
It also puts Russia in a bind because while its garrison is small and local forces antiquated, it still has parity, if not a slight advantage against Moldova. Ukraine saying it'd intervene means Russia has to sit and spin because even a battalion or two of Ukrainian forces and some cross-border artillery fire would represent a major threat to Russian operations in Transnistria.
something else that other anons aren't mentioning here is that a good portion of Transnistria's population is ethnic Ukrainian. If you look at the wiki page for the transnistria war you'll see that Ukraine diplomatically supported the separatists and that there were a few Ukrainian volunteers who actively took part in the fighting on Transnistria's side like Oleg Chelnov. As I've been told by some Ukie anons this was so that through some means the territory would be integrated into Ukraine instead. I think it would be kino that if the transmorons are eventually pushed out (or bought out) that the territory is split between the two states along ethnic lines. But that probably won't happen :/
South Ossetia being retaken is feasible (it's 50k people in total), Abkhazia is a whole different ball game - defined ethnicity with a bitter history with the Georgians and an Israeli-like insistence that to be absorbed into Georgia means genocide. It would be a damned tough place to take with the current Georgian army, even if the Russians completely tossed them to the wolves.
Kinda sucks that these ethnic groups get used as pawns in Russia's game. Like, imagine if Russia was actually interested in Ossetian autonomy and released North Ossetia.
why would they be? do you think canada is interested in Inuit autonomy?
will they ever release Nunavut to become it's own independent nation?
everyone is a pawn when it comes to geopolitics
>why would they be? do you think canada is interested in Inuit autonomy?
we are theyre pretty much free to do whatever and we send them supplies, we do have to work on decolinzation methods thou and help other groups here but they are good, I would want a free quebec and WEXIT to join the usa and small indian states and toronto and vancouver nuked
Oh right, they would fight for their right to be Russian, just like the Ukrainians would welcome them as brothers. You're going to get gang banged and you're going to like it, pidoras.
what the fuck are you talking about? Abkhazians obviously don't want to be Russian, they even voted it against it at some point. The point is they don't want to be Georgian either, thanks to soviet and later Russian fuckery.
Lesser of two evils.
They literally fought a war to be Russian instead of Georgian (because they are retarded and Georgians treated them like shit because Georgians were/are retarded because everyone in the caucuses is a tribalist retard)
What is it with the mountain people and tribalism? Same shit in the Balkans.
Same in Afghanistan
>geography creates small fixed populations with little contact between
>create their own culture with language, ethnicity, religion etc
>never have to deal with neighbours and never develop much
>suddenly roads and trains and radio and tv happen
>small insular communities forced to deal with other small insular communities that are extremely different from them
>clearly genocide is the only reasonable solution
We are based, simple as. If you wage war you should kill your adversary and steal his land, any other form of war than ethnic war is a pussy war.
How did that pussy warfare worked out for you westoids in Irak, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Kek.
Oh look, a subhuman serb
>They literally fought a war to be Russian
embarrassingly retarded post
You mean the Russians sent their subhumans to do that, as they do everywhere.
What's with glavset hookers replying to their own posts?
>South Ossetia being retaken is feasible
Lol, no it isn't. As seen in 08, where they held the advantage of having strategic positions within SO, and still failed.
Russia had a significant manpower and materiel advantage in place along with taking advantage of Georgian strategic blunders, and it was still enough of a shitshow that despite winning they attempted major reformations of their military. Currently Russia is a year into a 3 day military operation, its core of well-trained and professional troops have been gutted, it's conscripts and mobiks are poorly trained and equipped, and it's digging out 60s era Soviet vintage for refurbishment to replace its lost modern equipment. Georgia taking SO is in the feasible category, even if it's not in the likely category.
>Russia had a significant manpower and materiel advantage in place
No they didn't. They had to quickly pivot and mobilize troops to send into action. First days of the war Georgia had all the advantages in the field.
Not videogames.
Well that's good cause this is PrepHole.
Welcome to the joke
I enjoy PrepHole being the anti-Russian/Chinese geopolitics board, don't ruin this for me
>I enjoy PrepHole being the anti-Russian/Chinese geopolitics board, don't ruin this for me
it's simpler it is about weapons used to kill the bastards
>it's simpler it is about weapons used to kill the bastards
If it were I would be seeing less trannie/cock sucking moron gay zog bot tier sperging about politics. This board is so shit it now has a main export which is Polish tier seethinium exports to 4chan.
So it should be posted on /v/?
It is now
Yes. Georgia will be conquered just like Ukraine. Just look at /r/Georgia and there is massive support for joining the liberal Western world.
talking about georgia retaking south ossetia and abkhazia my bro
>not even five posts in and he's already thinking about fags again
Russians do so much love their gay sex
>.t gay vatnik
>I want my country to be ruled by an impoverished, corrupt, authoritarian, backwards shithole because gay people exist
Look, you can go be Russian but we don’t want to be part of your shitholery
Oh no no 4chansisters
Two days ago they were celebrating rightful pro-Russian rule in Georgia and now the people are rising up against rule by assrape already
>/r/Georgia
Jesus Christ, if you're gonna direct people to Reddit at least get the subreddit right
If the West is serious, it would come up with a policy: Interested Georgians will receive access to the same training programs as Ukrainians, on the basis they would contribute to the Ukraine effort, and then support from Ukraine and the West would flow towards Georgia. Moldova would have the potential to do the same, galvanising their efforts, strengthening their states with a view towards long term contributions to regional stability.
The sad part is the work that everyone would have to do in the former RF, but it is what it is.
The problem is always too far. America has no interest in Caucasus region other than fucking over Iran with Azerbaijan.
America has an interest in Ukrainians, Moldovans, Georgians and Belorussians in the same uniform being present on the old China/Russian border as long as Taiwan and the South China Sea is an issue.
Could you repeat that in English?
South Ossetia - definitely feasible even now.
Abkhazia - much more difficult but possible, but it will likely lead to a bloody insurgency.
Both of these are assuming Russia doesn't get involved or only provides minimal assistance.
It should be not a reconquest, but a reintegration on a diplomatic basis. Unfortunately there's a lot of bad talk from both sides leading to an arab-gnomish type of relationship, in which case it's better to just leave Abkhazia alone.
Man, how funny would it be if Russia's behaviour pushed everyone away from their corrupt culture and led to every single one of their neighbors except China to suffer a coup
The Abkhazians are dead set against becoming a part of Georgia. They do not like Russia either. I think it would be a huge challenge to get them back into the fold.
SOON
VGH....what could have been....
>a nation comprised of a bunch of ethnic groups that hate eachother
It didn't work in the Balkans, I doubt it ever would have worked given enough time
You mean soon Subedei's force recon pulls up?
It's hilarious how artificial these protests are. You go to them and nobody can speak Russian, it's all foreigners.
True Georgians support Russia and are against NATO expansion.
we havent forgot what r*ssians did to us in Abkhazia, and Samachablo in 2008. r*ssians are subhuman animals. The younger generation does not speak russian
Russia provided security and ensured Georgia would not become yet an other domino in endless NATO conquest.
shhhh pydor
>(You)
You really fucked up when you let all the russians fleeing the war in. Crime rate will go up, everything will get worse. Tbilisi already is full of them.
>r*ssians
you are a worthless retard
You are Russian.
Best time to do it while the Ruskies are getting slaughtered in Ukraine.
What are the tactical implications of threatening Georgia?
>WE WILL INVADE YOU IF YOU DON'T LET US INVADE YOU....AGAIN
ok?
With the russian "precision" and the terrain they'll never be able to hit anything there.
Just imagining a convoy of death getting stuck on a georgian serpentine mountain road... God, that makes me hard.
>what it finally led to
150-200k russian casualties?
>It led to lots and lots of dead Russians
The one think I find funny with this is that all the Russians who fled Russia to hopefully not get affected by the war and who cucked out for Ukraine got pushed back into Russia over this.
God bless the CIA
Are you talking about the Russians that fled to Georgia? How did this result in them getting pushed out? I haven't been following the news on Georgian media outlets.
All the people who fled to Georgia are fleeing back to Russia. The news for this is any social media where retards feel comfortable with sharing their private life (Twitter, boomerbook, Reddit)
Why are they fleeing back?
All I can find on Twitter are Indians reeeeing about how this is a CIA-Nazi plot to cause another Maidan Revolution, and how poor widdle Russia are the ones being genocided.
yeah propsganda machine is in full force. There were videos and tgram posts in past threads but I didn't bother saving any so you'll have to look for the archives.
Do these same useful idiots think that there was an ethnic purge after the Berlin wall fell?
Oh yeah, have you seen the sheer schizoid delusions of the Puccian propaganda machine? Hell they literally claimed at one point that the fall of the SU was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. I mean, even if you, for whatever insane reason, think the SU wasn't evil. Worst tragedy of the 20th century? 2 world wars, and the fall of the SU is supposed to be worse... They're fucking insane. And they love to play the genocyde card. Hell as
pointed out they're ALREADY claiming Georgia is in full ethnic cleansing mode. They're that gnomish, the thin skinned gays. Gotta play the 6 gorrillion card every fucking time anyone tells them to go fuck themselves!
Personally, I think that Russians should not be allowed to travel outside of any country that isn't BRICS. I am Japanese, and there are tons of Russians here on tourist visas. I want them all out of my country. But if they think that sending them back to their own commissars is "genocide", maybe they should do something about it.
These are the new conflict lines that are forming right now tbh. Civilization vs despotic kings, tyrants and clannic wastelands
Konnichiwa!
Putin said specifically geopolitical tragedy, not tragedy in general.
Personal tragedy for him.
There's been reports of traffic jams with the Ivans trying to flee back to Russia because they fear they'll get the Hitler treatment.
If you don't see how they're retarded enough to do that do note Euromaidan was so vilified in Russia they ran massive campaigns claiming Banderites were purging the ethnic Russians and making knight of long knifes connections. Loosing their glowies was so traumatic for russia they basically react to EU flags the same way someone growing during the red scare would react seeing the hammer and scyckle marching through their town.
And now not only are Georgians waving the golden stars everywhere but both Russia and Georgia are calling it Euromaidan 2.0
Oh yeah, they're scared alright, and fucking idiots are going straight to the conscription office to get thrown at the meatgrinder against their will.
Good riddance.
>The EU flag is symbol of fear for the russian
The fuck is going with this timeline.
Don't know. Everyone on that side of the world seems to be really good at stopping color revolutions now.
Ruzzia will definitely chimp out ot Georgia when they are not tied to Ukraine anymore. Georgia better prepare like Ukraine.
Abkhazia has a population of ~200k. Abkhaz are a minority and most of the rest of the population are either sympathetic to Georgia or don't give a shit who rules them one way or the other. Georgia would easily run them over if Russia didn't stop it.
Nothing's gonna happen. Government and business are Russia-aligned and won't do shit.
The EU has a level of soft power that I had not considered.
Shockingly enough poor people near Europe want to join an economic bloc that is the third richest in the world.
It's easy to like the EU when the USSR's twitching corpse is still smacking you in the face.
If you join the EU you get showered in money and corruption goes way down, it’s an excellent deal with no downsides for most third world countries.
>If you join the EU you get showered in money
sure
>corruption goes way down
haha no, corruption is still there it only changes form, eu gibs are best corruption tool
OUCHIE
twust da plan, comrade
Ukraine already offered Moldavia to take over Transnistria. Why wouldn't they help Georgia, given that they kick Russia out of Ukraine
Why does Ukraine want to takeover Trannisisters?
Don't know, drag in more countries in to conflict? Open another front? Russia said that any hostile actions against Transnistria propagate to Russia. Not like Ukraine cares but Moldova is probably scared.
>to close a potential front and stop having to hold troops at the ukr-trans border
>to do moldova a favor that it might repay later
>to do the world a favor by removing a zigger tumor from the earth
Seems like a reasonable move to me.
It also puts Russia in a bind because while its garrison is small and local forces antiquated, it still has parity, if not a slight advantage against Moldova. Ukraine saying it'd intervene means Russia has to sit and spin because even a battalion or two of Ukrainian forces and some cross-border artillery fire would represent a major threat to Russian operations in Transnistria.
something else that other anons aren't mentioning here is that a good portion of Transnistria's population is ethnic Ukrainian. If you look at the wiki page for the transnistria war you'll see that Ukraine diplomatically supported the separatists and that there were a few Ukrainian volunteers who actively took part in the fighting on Transnistria's side like Oleg Chelnov. As I've been told by some Ukie anons this was so that through some means the territory would be integrated into Ukraine instead. I think it would be kino that if the transmorons are eventually pushed out (or bought out) that the territory is split between the two states along ethnic lines. But that probably won't happen :/
Ah. Didnt know that. Yeah I guess splitting it by ethnic lines would be a good option but it would probably piss off the moldovans
There's no need. Russia will vacate it post-putin in return for some sanctions being lifted
>hohol hopes and dreams
Wouldn't the biggest problem be the chechens?
He logged into Steam?
Played HoI to brush up on tactics.