How effective is the Maxim gun, the first fully automatic machine gun in the world?

How effective is the Maxim gun, the first fully automatic machine gun in the world?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's just say it's not prone to mechanical failure.
    >https://vickersmg.blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/20190416-1millionrounds-postprint.pdf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vickers might have been based on Maxims but they are not a Maxim.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        isn't it just an upside down maxim with a muzzle booster?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is the text on the sign blurred out?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it operates without any mechanical issues it's about as dangerous as any other machine gun. The lethality of firearms hasn't really changed in 100 years. Small lead pebble moving quickly hits soft target; does damage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/s3QUrCg.png

      [...]
      I know this is gay bait but in case any tourists stumble across this post, both sides have been using PM1910s because they eat easily accessible ammo, are sturdy as fuck, nobody cares if you lose it or break it, and there are tens of thousands sitting in warehouses. It'd be dumber not to use them for emplacements if you're only expecting to go up against infantry.

      thanks for interesting posts anons

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I know this is gay bait but in case any tourists stumble across this post, both sides have been using PM1910s because they eat easily accessible ammo, are sturdy as fuck, nobody cares if you lose it or break it, and there are tens of thousands sitting in warehouses. It'd be dumber not to use them for emplacements if you're only expecting to go up against infantry.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk how effective would a tripod pkp, be that doesn't need to be cooled off every 400 rounds?
    >the answer is more effective than a pkp that does need to be cooled off every 400 rounds.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, for a stationary gun position a watercooled gun has few drawbacks and big advantages as long as you have water and ammo.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Effective enough to completely turn warfare on its head. Armies went into WWI with a TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO mindset but were forced to stop by first machine guns and then indirect fire artillery. The Maxim is perfectly fine as an emplaced weapon to this day. The main improvement we've made over it in the last 130 years is reducing the weight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not make it man-portable?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the weapons that replaced it are
        it can't really be beat in its intended role as a stationary weapon though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good news...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shame that arrived too late to catch on with other countries.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's still gotta be mad heavy with the water jacket
          i still want one. local war museum better watch out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We encountered an unfortunate engineering limitation wherein you can't actually make a giant reservoir of water weigh less than a giant reservoir of water. Being a water-cooled machinegun this is an intractable structural limitation of the Maxim. It can fire for days but it's intended for use in a fixed position.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's weighs about as much as a modern HMG while only having the effective range of a MMG/GPMG. If you're in a situation where those aren't an issue though, it'll run like an engine so long as you feed it fuel (ammo) and coolant.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not very. humans have evolved since then so the bullets just bounce off.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does anybody have access to this article in the economist?
    https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/05/11/why-ukraines-army-still-uses-a-100-year-old-machinegun

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if its in 7.62x54r and they have ammo for it why not use it, its also impossible to overheat the barrel if you have a steady water supply

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In static positions, they're fine.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're in an entrenched position and have no intention of leaving anytime soon, it'll chop down motherfuckers like nobody's business.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good. Very good sustained fire with a wide beaten zone. If it has enough food and water it can shoot all day and the beaten zone just widens as rifling disappears.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does it fire smokeless powder ammo?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. The very first prototypes were black powder but they didn't work too good. All production Maxims were smokeless guns.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      7.62x54r, homie

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >They're literally using water cooled machineguns in the Ukraine AT THIS VERY MOMENT

    God why is every conflict in the East so absurd.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M2 is 100 year old too, if it werks, it werks. The main question is does the maxim werk?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It'll kill men just as well as it had 100 years ago. I would imagine the slow firerate and weight might make it pretty good for static defenses.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how effective
    Considering it completely changed the paradigm of warfare and made horse calvary obsolete I'd say pretty fucking effective.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    id say its effective within its role as an HMG
    heavy and with low rate of fire, it pintle does not have a wide range of adjustment
    just dont be in a hurry to move about that's all

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that machine gun in the pic and what both ukrainians and russian mobiks use is not the "first" machine gun, these are all a much later ww1 variant of that

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