How Does This Motherfucker Sleep At Night?

More broadly, what the frick were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings? It honestly seems like the work of a fifth column within the US Navy.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >More broadly, what the frick were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings?
    They weren't thinking, anon. They wanted to steal the glory that would have gone to the unit that actually planned out the whole thing so they could put it in their books when they get out. Now it's just another case study as to why the SEALS should never be trusted with anything beyond a pimped out propaganda unit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What unit planned it?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Marine Core I think.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That’s not a unit, and I find it highly unlikely a mission pretty obviously made for SOCOM would be originally given to a conventional force.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It was was originally planned with a much larger conventional force. IIRC it was an infantry unit with a lot of additional support.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It was meant to be a large Recon Marine operation. Big Navy pushed to drop SEALs much closer and in broad daylight instead and you know what happened after.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Recon Marines literally never get recon missions. It'd be hilarious if it wasnt so sad.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That Generation Kill enjoyer.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Corps.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Frick, I thought it looked wrong.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not the worst mistake, I remember being young talking to a recruiter. I said the S in corps, he looked at me like I was the dumbest piece of shit he'd ever seen.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Marine Corpse. There, I fixed it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I prefer Marine Crops. TILL THAT SOIL DEVIL DOG

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        MARSOC, the seal team scrapped all their plans and went with a totally different one.

        That’s not a unit, and I find it highly unlikely a mission pretty obviously made for SOCOM would be originally given to a conventional force.

        Black person, do three minutes of reading before replying

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          USMC Force Recon actually, MARSOC wasn't established until the following year.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Marine Core I think.

        That’s not a unit, and I find it highly unlikely a mission pretty obviously made for SOCOM would be originally given to a conventional force.

        It was was originally planned with a much larger conventional force. IIRC it was an infantry unit with a lot of additional support.

        MARSOC, the seal team scrapped all their plans and went with a totally different one.

        [...]
        Black person, do three minutes of reading before replying

        It was actually Force Recon, and they had infiltrated and exfiltrated multiple times, which was how the SEAL's got the fricking intelligence to begin with.
        >what happened
        They didn't want to walk 6 hours to get to their COP so they choppered in.
        >the shepherds
        The Taliban already knew they were there, the shepherds didn't do shit.
        >Taliban force
        30-50 dudes.
        >/k/ says it was 7-10 dudes
        /k/ is full of shit.
        >Marine follow up found frick tons of shell casings
        >Taliban video shows heavy firefight and the other SEAL's screaming at Marcus to come back
        He should have been shot for gross cowardice in the face of the enemy, but the DOD needed every shake and bake SF "operators" and to have so many of their golden boys wiped out would have absolutely killed morale.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          bro the whole video is on youtube
          no more than 20 guys at most

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the only people there were the camera guy and those guys
            Anon it was a L shaped ambush and the camera guy hung back.
            >everyone packing RPG's and PKM's
            That was the suppression group.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >video
            The video doesn't show that much aside from it being in the taliban's perspective. There are much cuts along with the camera man obviously not poking his head out in the line of fire.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >3:43
            >MARCUS! MARCUS COME BACK!
            >all the weapons captured had no ammo
            >Marcus had every pouch full of ammo
            This is proof enough.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I get that fear got the better of him, happens to the best of us. It's the 18 years worth of lies that grate.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I couldn't live with myself if I did that, frick I lose enough sleep at the friends I couldn't have saved, but just to cut and run....

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Have friends who have killed themselves for much less.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So many suicides. The only thing that seems to work is Jesus. It's the only thing I've seen that actually heals the pain.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think he looks a bit disturbed tbh, it must eat at him. I think he copes by trying to believe in God.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >friends
                I think you mean 3 less future competing authors.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, homie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                lolololololololololol this homie gets it.

                Why would Murphy have been court martialled?

                he smoked the commander crack rocks. murphy was a crackhead who fricked kids.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What lies did he told?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              6:07 is a better timestamp if anyone is having trouble hearing shit at 3:43.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I find that really hard to hear even with the power of suggestion. At around the 6:00 min mark I can hear what sounds like "Michael come back! Marcus!" but the audio is too muddied to say for certain

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Those screams for Marcus are genuinely harrowing. An horrific ambush.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >He should have been shot for gross cowardice in the face of the enemy
          It is said that a devgru operator said during the debrief that it was a blessing that Murphy died so they pin the medal of honor on him instead of giving him a court martial

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why would Murphy have been court martialled?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              He wanted to murder the goatherds.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They are the tip of the spear, kinda goes to your head but they are the best of the best. SF is actually crazier than people imagine, lots of drugs and wild stuff going down. No surprise that they are cowboys.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >best of the best
            >get outmaneuvered and outgunned by 3rd worlders
            US special forces are a meme at this point, same thing happened to the green berets in Nigeria. Imagine getting outsmarted by a bunch of inbred goat herders or Black folk. Compare modern tattoo'd, drugged up SF bros to the OG guys who were actually good. SF today is a bunch of LARPers living off reputation created by others. Average WWII Pacific marine is probably a better soldier than modern US SEAL if given equal gear

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I just don't get it. What is the point of all that training and state of the art gear if they don't fricking win?!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >all that training
                Most SOF spend more time practicing skills like diving, free fall, language training, foreign integral defense, etc. than they actually so practicing ready to contact drills and other skills.

                The average fireteam in the corps made up of 19 year olds is easily twice as effective in combat as SEALs or an ODA is.
                Nobody cares how elite you are once that 240 gets set up and mortars start dialing in.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think many of the Boomer SF blokes had tatts, I think a full sleeve would have got you RFU'd.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                that's the point, modern SF are a bunch of moronic LARPers. At most they had a forearm tattoo

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There's the actual video and that other anon is being generous with you. It was 7 guys, eight if you count the camera man. The whole time you can hear the three guys screaming for Luttrell to come back as he turned tail and abandoned his men. If you still don't believe the ACTUAL physical video evidence, then the official report states 8 men. I know this might be a hard thing to accept for man children who watch too many Special Forces movies and play too many vidyea, but it doesn't take an army to take out Navy Seals. A few men armed with iron sights and cold war era weaponry who are actually battle hardened were enough.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/iTTdlzB.jpg

      More broadly, what the frick were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings? It honestly seems like the work of a fifth column within the US Navy.

      They were told to fly in miles away and walk into the valley on foot. Instead they decided to fly in and attract the attention of locals. Who reported them to the local Taliban. I may have missed all the details. But thats what happened.
      The Taliban arnt dumb. And you can hear a military chopper from distance.
      The marines or Army told them to do what was listed above.
      Instead they believing they are real life ninjas and super secret bad asses just ignored the advice.
      Cause Seals dont walk bro!
      They got killed by a unit of about 6 to 12 men total.
      Navy had to cover the frick up by allowing the story of 200 men to stand.
      The reality is Luttrell ran away and the Seal team members were killed slowly and in horrific ways. Which wasnt the first time someone was captured and killed.
      Same shit happened in Iraq. And the media refused to report on it.
      But an Army soldier was decapitated on a bridge. The pics were leaked a decade later.

      Think of it this way. The SEALs are basically VDV (same gung ho attitude), but with much better equipment and slightly better infantry training.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If the seals are comparatively incompetent what units are actually good at their jobs , rangers? Green berets?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Delta. Seals are essentially overhyped marine raiders, assassins.

        Delta and army SOF in general are the ones who topple government regimes and train rebel forces without anyone ever knowing they were there. They could be living in your attic for a year conducting an insurgency without you ever knowing they were there.

        Seals just roll in and kill a few people and roll out.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Delta and army SOF in general are the ones who topple government regimes
          No, this is the CIA you're thinking of.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Most of the time it's the CIAs intel that leads to actionable planning for an SF team to train an insider insurgency that acts in the best interest of the U.S.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >implying GRS acts on their own accord

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >delta is more competent and less corrupt than seals
          Google "fort bragg murders delta force" real quick, read what you find, then come back and see if you still think that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            SOF was always bullshit. When the British Empire was at its height, they didn't piss about with shit like that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              moronic take.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >psychotic zogbot sociopaths are murderous Black folk and are also liars and basically scum of the earth
            >More news at 11

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He sleeps like a baby knowing that his lies made him rich

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He's dreaming. That's how he came up with the story.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They were told to fly in miles away and walk into the valley on foot. Instead they decided to fly in and attract the attention of locals. Who reported them to the local Taliban. I may have missed all the details. But thats what happened.
    The Taliban arnt dumb. And you can hear a military chopper from distance.
    The marines or Army told them to do what was listed above.
    Instead they believing they are real life ninjas and super secret bad asses just ignored the advice.
    Cause Seals dont walk bro!
    They got killed by a unit of about 6 to 12 men total.
    Navy had to cover the frick up by allowing the story of 200 men to stand.
    The reality is Luttrell ran away and the Seal team members were killed slowly and in horrific ways. Which wasnt the first time someone was captured and killed.
    Same shit happened in Iraq. And the media refused to report on it.
    But an Army soldier was decapitated on a bridge. The pics were leaked a decade later.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >But an Army soldier was decapitated on a bridge. The pics were leaked a decade later.
      Those weren't army soldiers, they were blackwater contractors.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up. It was a lone soldier who got seperated in the Iraq war.
        Im not talking about the blackwater contractors who were hung from a bridge.
        Learn to read jackass. I said he was killed on a bridge. They cut his head off.
        Frick I hate people like you so much.
        The pics were posted online. It was leaked by Army soldiers who were pissed the story never got out

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Quite heated aren't you? But the seals weren't captured, though. They all died in the firefight while members of the taliban urged them to surrender.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That never happened, moron

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Gentlemen, gentlemen! None of this is personal, we are simply attempting to arrive at the truth.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I think he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2006_abduction_of_United_States_soldiers_in_Iraq
            The soldiers were brutally tortured. There's a video of the aftermath out there somewhere.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >There's a video of the aftermath out there somewhere
              Nah

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Hanged. You hang a person. Hung is used only for inanimate objects. The man will be hanged at dawn. The man was hanged from the bridge. The man hung the painting.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Hanged sounds moronic

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well, technically doesn't a person transition to being an inanimate object when dead?
            So i guess the point of definition is if they were still alive or not at the time they were hung/hanged.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I remember once stumbling upon a Wikipedia article on a Medal of Honor recipient with fantasy tales of hundreds of talibans killed, and I just added ”claimed” and stuff like that to try to take a bit of distance in the description of the events (I didn’t removed anything, I genuinely only tried a more neutral wording like ”the report published by the US Army states that”). I got banned 3 days, the page was locked, and the text left was only a copy paste word for word of the MoH citation and nothing else.
      And that one other time when the founder used his powers to delete photos of dead american soldiers because he was directly contacted by the families, while there was dozens of thousands of photos of victims of war, terrorism or accidents on other pages.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The pics were leaked a decade later
      Fake

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I read somewhere that it’s common for the Tban to mag-dump in the face - what actually happened?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The seals wanted to rush things, which resulted in a frick up. If they hadn't gone far away from the support group, the outcome would have been different. Luckily, the operation was taken over by the marine corps and operation whalers became a thing and succeeded in what red wing did not.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Whalers
    What to learn from this is to not rush an operation.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Keep in mind this was run by the UDT/s and not a regular SEAL platoon.
    UDT/s and Hawaii SEALs have had a reputation for where subpar SEALs fo after BUD/s until they retire or get injured testing some new stupid piece of sice equipment.

    Murphy also had a friendly fire incident in Hawaii during a FT. he was punished for. Not sure if he shot someone or got the blame for being in charge when it occurred, but the article from navy times is long gone and so are the old lightfighter posts of team dudes dragging him.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    On a golden bed with a mattress literally made of money,

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This thread smells like bullshit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Expand

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    http://www.darack.com/sawtalosar/

    Required reading

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    like a baby on a pile of money he made lying his ass off after converting to islam for a free place to stay.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He has tp be one of the dumbest fricking monkeys in the US military. He's extremely stupid. It's shocking.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I feel bad for him. I genuinely do. Carrying that guilt forever must be fricking horrible.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Probably on a pile of money.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Would it really have been a war crime had they executed the shepherds? I feel like the theme of that movie is execute POWs if you know any better.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Couldn't they have taken them prisoner and extracted with them?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Couldn't they have taken them prisoner and extracted with them?

      there wasn't any shepherd, the morons dropped in with a helicopter instead of walking a few miles and the entire valley knew where they were. The shepherd shit is an excuse made after the fact to justify a team of SEALs getting wiped out and make them out to be heroes who only died due to their mercy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this

        the shepherd story is a complete fabrication

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i think this was the bigger shitshow tbh

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