More broadly, what the fuck were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings? It honestly seems like the work of a fifth column within the US Navy.
How Does This Motherfucker Sleep At Night?
More broadly, what the fuck were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings? It honestly seems like the work of a fifth column within the US Navy.
>More broadly, what the fuck were the SEALs thinking with Operation Red Wings?
They weren't thinking, anon. They wanted to steal the glory that would have gone to the unit that actually planned out the whole thing so they could put it in their books when they get out. Now it's just another case study as to why the SEALS should never be trusted with anything beyond a pimped out propaganda unit
What unit planned it?
Marine Core I think.
That’s not a unit, and I find it highly unlikely a mission pretty obviously made for SOCOM would be originally given to a conventional force.
It was was originally planned with a much larger conventional force. IIRC it was an infantry unit with a lot of additional support.
It was meant to be a large Recon Marine operation. Big Navy pushed to drop SEALs much closer and in broad daylight instead and you know what happened after.
Recon Marines literally never get recon missions. It'd be hilarious if it wasnt so sad.
That Generation Kill enjoyer.
Corps.
Fuck, I thought it looked wrong.
Not the worst mistake, I remember being young talking to a recruiter. I said the S in corps, he looked at me like I was the dumbest piece of shit he'd ever seen.
Marine Corpse. There, I fixed it.
I prefer Marine Crops. TILL THAT SOIL DEVIL DOG
MARSOC, the seal team scrapped all their plans and went with a totally different one.
moron, do three minutes of reading before replying
USMC Force Recon actually, MARSOC wasn't established until the following year.
It was actually Force Recon, and they had infiltrated and exfiltrated multiple times, which was how the SEAL's got the fucking intelligence to begin with.
>what happened
They didn't want to walk 6 hours to get to their COP so they choppered in.
>the shepherds
The Taliban already knew they were there, the shepherds didn't do shit.
>Taliban force
30-50 dudes.
>PrepHole says it was 7-10 dudes
PrepHole is full of shit.
>Marine follow up found fuck tons of shell casings
>Taliban video shows heavy firefight and the other SEAL's screaming at Marcus to come back
He should have been shot for gross cowardice in the face of the enemy, but the DOD needed every shake and bake SF "operators" and to have so many of their golden boys wiped out would have absolutely killed morale.
bro the whole video is on youtube
no more than 20 guys at most
>the only people there were the camera guy and those guys
Anon it was a L shaped ambush and the camera guy hung back.
>everyone packing RPG's and PKM's
That was the suppression group.
>video
The video doesn't show that much aside from it being in the taliban's perspective. There are much cuts along with the camera man obviously not poking his head out in the line of fire.
>3:43
>MARCUS! MARCUS COME BACK!
>all the weapons captured had no ammo
>Marcus had every pouch full of ammo
This is proof enough.
I get that fear got the better of him, happens to the best of us. It's the 18 years worth of lies that grate.
I couldn't live with myself if I did that, fuck I lose enough sleep at the friends I couldn't have saved, but just to cut and run....
Have friends who have killed themselves for much less.
So many suicides. The only thing that seems to work is Jesus. It's the only thing I've seen that actually heals the pain.
I think he looks a bit disturbed tbh, it must eat at him. I think he copes by trying to believe in God.
>friends
I think you mean 3 less future competing authors.
Damn, bro.
lolololololololololol this bro gets it.
he smoked the commander crack rocks. murphy was a crackhead who fucked kids.
What lies did he told?
6:07 is a better timestamp if anyone is having trouble hearing shit at 3:43.
I find that really hard to hear even with the power of suggestion. At around the 6:00 min mark I can hear what sounds like "Michael come back! Marcus!" but the audio is too muddied to say for certain
Those screams for Marcus are genuinely harrowing. An horrific ambush.
>He should have been shot for gross cowardice in the face of the enemy
It is said that a devgru operator said during the debrief that it was a blessing that Murphy died so they pin the medal of honor on him instead of giving him a court martial
Why would Murphy have been court martialled?
He wanted to murder the goatherds.
They are the tip of the spear, kinda goes to your head but they are the best of the best. SF is actually crazier than people imagine, lots of drugs and wild stuff going down. No surprise that they are cowboys.
>best of the best
>get outmaneuvered and outgunned by 3rd worlders
US special forces are a meme at this point, same thing happened to the green berets in Nigeria. Imagine getting outsmarted by a bunch of inbred goat herders or morons. Compare modern tattoo'd, drugged up SF bros to the OG guys who were actually good. SF today is a bunch of LARPers living off reputation created by others. Average WWII Pacific marine is probably a better soldier than modern US SEAL if given equal gear
I just don't get it. What is the point of all that training and state of the art gear if they don't fucking win?!
>all that training
Most SOF spend more time practicing skills like diving, free fall, language training, foreign integral defense, etc. than they actually so practicing ready to contact drills and other skills.
The average fireteam in the corps made up of 19 year olds is easily twice as effective in combat as SEALs or an ODA is.
Nobody cares how elite you are once that 240 gets set up and mortars start dialing in.
I don't think many of the Boomer SF blokes had tatts, I think a full sleeve would have got you RFU'd.
that's the point, modern SF are a bunch of retarded LARPers. At most they had a forearm tattoo
There's the actual video and that other anon is being generous with you. It was 7 guys, eight if you count the camera man. The whole time you can hear the three guys screaming for Luttrell to come back as he turned tail and abandoned his men. If you still don't believe the ACTUAL physical video evidence, then the official report states 8 men. I know this might be a hard thing to accept for man children who watch too many Special Forces movies and play too many vidyea, but it doesn't take an army to take out Navy Seals. A few men armed with iron sights and cold war era weaponry who are actually battle hardened were enough.
Think of it this way. The SEALs are basically VDV (same gung ho attitude), but with much better equipment and slightly better infantry training.
If the seals are comparatively incompetent what units are actually good at their jobs , rangers? Green berets?
Delta. Seals are essentially overhyped marine raiders, assassins.
Delta and army SOF in general are the ones who topple government regimes and train rebel forces without anyone ever knowing they were there. They could be living in your attic for a year conducting an insurgency without you ever knowing they were there.
Seals just roll in and kill a few people and roll out.
>Delta and army SOF in general are the ones who topple government regimes
No, this is the CIA you're thinking of.
Most of the time it's the CIAs intel that leads to actionable planning for an SF team to train an insider insurgency that acts in the best interest of the U.S.
>implying GRS acts on their own accord
>delta is more competent and less corrupt than seals
Google "fort bragg murders delta force" real quick, read what you find, then come back and see if you still think that.
SOF was always bullshit. When the British Empire was at its height, they didn't piss about with shit like that.
Retarded take.
>psychotic zogbot sociopaths are murderous morons and are also liars and basically scum of the earth
>More news at 11
He sleeps like a baby knowing that his lies made him rich
He's dreaming. That's how he came up with the story.
They were told to fly in miles away and walk into the valley on foot. Instead they decided to fly in and attract the attention of locals. Who reported them to the local Taliban. I may have missed all the details. But thats what happened.
The Taliban arnt dumb. And you can hear a military chopper from distance.
The marines or Army told them to do what was listed above.
Instead they believing they are real life ninjas and super secret bad asses just ignored the advice.
Cause Seals dont walk bro!
They got killed by a unit of about 6 to 12 men total.
Navy had to cover the fuck up by allowing the story of 200 men to stand.
The reality is Luttrell ran away and the Seal team members were killed slowly and in horrific ways. Which wasnt the first time someone was captured and killed.
Same shit happened in Iraq. And the media refused to report on it.
But an Army soldier was decapitated on a bridge. The pics were leaked a decade later.
>But an Army soldier was decapitated on a bridge. The pics were leaked a decade later.
Those weren't army soldiers, they were blackwater contractors.
Shut the fuck up. It was a lone soldier who got seperated in the Iraq war.
Im not talking about the blackwater contractors who were hung from a bridge.
Learn to read jackass. I said he was killed on a bridge. They cut his head off.
Fuck I hate people like you so much.
The pics were posted online. It was leaked by Army soldiers who were pissed the story never got out
Quite heated aren't you? But the seals weren't captured, though. They all died in the firefight while members of the taliban urged them to surrender.
That never happened, retard
Gentlemen, gentlemen! None of this is personal, we are simply attempting to arrive at the truth.
I think he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2006_abduction_of_United_States_soldiers_in_Iraq
The soldiers were brutally tortured. There's a video of the aftermath out there somewhere.
>There's a video of the aftermath out there somewhere
Nah
Hanged. You hang a person. Hung is used only for inanimate objects. The man will be hanged at dawn. The man was hanged from the bridge. The man hung the painting.
Hanged sounds retarded
Well, technically doesn't a person transition to being an inanimate object when dead?
So i guess the point of definition is if they were still alive or not at the time they were hung/hanged.
Yeah, I remember once stumbling upon a Wikipedia article on a Medal of Honor recipient with fantasy tales of hundreds of talibans killed, and I just added ”claimed” and stuff like that to try to take a bit of distance in the description of the events (I didn’t removed anything, I genuinely only tried a more neutral wording like ”the report published by the US Army states that”). I got banned 3 days, the page was locked, and the text left was only a copy paste word for word of the MoH citation and nothing else.
And that one other time when the founder used his powers to delete photos of dead american soldiers because he was directly contacted by the families, while there was dozens of thousands of photos of victims of war, terrorism or accidents on other pages.
>The pics were leaked a decade later
Fake
I read somewhere that it’s common for the Tban to mag-dump in the face - what actually happened?
The seals wanted to rush things, which resulted in a fuck up. If they hadn't gone far away from the support group, the outcome would have been different. Luckily, the operation was taken over by the marine corps and operation whalers became a thing and succeeded in what red wing did not.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Whalers
What to learn from this is to not rush an operation.
Keep in mind this was run by the UDT/s and not a regular SEAL platoon.
UDT/s and Hawaii SEALs have had a reputation for where subpar SEALs fo after BUD/s until they retire or get injured testing some new stupid piece of sice equipment.
Murphy also had a friendly fire incident in Hawaii during a FT. he was punished for. Not sure if he shot someone or got the blame for being in charge when it occurred, but the article from navy times is long gone and so are the old lightfighter posts of team dudes dragging him.
On a golden bed with a mattress literally made of money,
This thread smells like bullshit
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http://www.darack.com/sawtalosar/
Required reading
like a baby on a pile of money he made lying his ass off after converting to islam for a free place to stay.
He has tp be one of the dumbest fucking monkeys in the US military. He's extremely stupid. It's shocking.
I feel bad for him. I genuinely do. Carrying that guilt forever must be fucking horrible.
Probably on a pile of money.
Would it really have been a war crime had they executed the shepherds? I feel like the theme of that movie is execute POWs if you know any better.
Couldn't they have taken them prisoner and extracted with them?
there wasn't any shepherd, the retards dropped in with a helicopter instead of walking a few miles and the entire valley knew where they were. The shepherd shit is an excuse made after the fact to justify a team of SEALs getting wiped out and make them out to be heroes who only died due to their mercy
this
the shepherd story is a complete fabrication
i think this was the bigger shitshow tbh
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