as much as i hate driving on large busy roundabouts (bong) it does ease traffic and keeps it all flowing especially the smaller ones which turn a 4-way intersection into basically a straight road in flow of traffic
crazy how americans refuse to use these more and desire their 8 lane uber highways that are choked with traffic, driving tests are also more lenient in the US and it really does show in the average state of their drivers
>Brit
You don't quite understand America, 8 lane highways exist in specific states and in specific regions of states where we need to pass something like half a million cars a day through an area. Outside of those areas you're more likely to see 2-3 lane highways, which are the equivalent of your "city highways." A roundabout simply does not "cope" with a set of synchronized traffic lights for throughput especially when it comes to having to do so in a space efficient manner. If you try to replace a simple 3 lane (total 6 on both sides) intersection arterial road where average traffic speed is in excess of 45mph you'd need a roundabout as big as the Arc de Triomphe to service the traffic per major arterial intersection.
The one where the Arc de Triomphe is at*. Roundabouts are neat if you are using them for low-medium traffic situations. I've seen videos of them and in some states and some areas I can see them working but they're only a step above unsynchronized traffic lights on 2 lane roads.
Something like this needs to deal with traffic peaks that effectively hit like flood surges during several hour long spans.
The other thing to consider is that the US generally has the *space* available to put up big mixmasters, and to run bypasses in a loop around major cities to give drivers an option of avoiding downtown altogether.
Tiny roundabouts have become popular in the upscale parts of certain cities. Personally, I've always thought they were more dangerous than stop signs, which have simple rules (FIFO, right-hand rule for ties), or red lights.
>I've always thought they were more dangerous than stop signs
they have the appearance of seeming more dangerous which is often good at getting people to behave more safely. While there is still a decent risk of getting in an accident, it is rarely the kind of accident that kills people.
A lot of traffic circles are being installed in my area to replace 2-way stops. They are at best sidegrades and at worse you lack indicators to tell where a car is going since you don't get turn signals. One of them was installed with right-turn lanes that bypass the circle itself and it is a genuine improvement over the stoplight that was there prior though. Now if they'd just stop shutting down intersections for 10 months to build them.
civil engineer here. Roundabouts are useful for low-medium traffic, and randomized flow rate. They are terrible for directional traffic. for example in the morning 5x as many people approach from the south compared to other directions. this is a situation where you want a traffic signal.
>backwards muttistan >synchronized traffic lights
i've watched enough of the tesla self driving beta video's to know that your traffic lights are hilariously stupid and slow compared to some backwater fuckoff nowhere traffic lights here that will respond to traffic within a second of detection, blatant lie
>driving tests are also more lenient in the US and it really does show in the average state of their drivers
Bongs won't gong this but my local DMV wasn't in realistic driving range of the one (1) roundabout in my 100k+ town. It was like some fantastical fairy circle. Other towns would have 0 roundabouts. They literally couldn't have put it in the practical part of the test.
Guy who drove through is dumb
Guy who waited trying to figure out a new scenario as to not get into an accident is smart
Interesting, I felt the exact opposite way. Guy who drove straight through could clearly see he wouldnt hit anyone and was going the most efficient route. Guy who waited had his left turn signal on and clearly would have went the wrong way if there wasn't a car there, couldn't comprehend a basic concept after several seconds and wasn't able to improvise like the first guy either.
By carrying a piece of shit modern striker fired gun which is nothing but a single action pistol without safety carried in condition 0
If the trigger ist the only manual """safety""" of a gun it's an inherently unsafe gun.
When there's a manual safety lever or a DA trigger pull there's a much lower, barely existing risk. >muh Glock ain't really single action ist GLAWK SAFETY ACTION
It's not you dumb fuck. You need a bigger force to engage a DA trigger. And if there's a manual safety engaged you can pull as much as you want.
3 weeks ago
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thats just 3 separate triggers, if you can accidentally pull 1 trigger you will inevitably accidentally pull 3
3 weeks ago
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Anon they make retard strength pull DAO triggers for law enforcement. 10lbs of JUST in the form of a LEM trigger for when you don't trust someone to operate a safety but also don't trust them to not get into situations where something can tickle the trigger.
3 weeks ago
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yeah and they negligently discharge very regularly, there was a famous empire state building? shooting where cops couldn't manage their guns.
3 weeks ago
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Sometimes you can try to fix stupid.
3 weeks ago
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Did you huff glue before you started posting? Is that the retarded form of thinking thats needed to call a modern striker fired single action a safe gun? Kek!
3 weeks ago
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all guns are unsafe, anon. considering any gun safe is a negligent attitude.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Another excuse. All guns are equally unsafe with the safety off and SA trigger weight. Behind that there are different levels of unsafe.
The CZ07 I'm CCing is less unsafe. Even with one in the pipe. Hammer down, resting in the safety notch. First shot DA trigger pull, all the other ones SA trigger pull.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
to someone practiced in both SA and DA trigger pulls it's less unsafe, to an average retard or LEO it's exactly the same trigger pull.
Glocks are unironically double action. The striker is under no tension before you pull the trigger. You pulling the trigger cocks the guns.
3 weeks ago
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its like 1.5 action, partially cocked before you pull the trigger.
>there's only ever one safety that matters.
You can keep your fingers as far away from the trigger as you want. If it still goes bang the moment something else touches the trigger it's an unsafe piece of shit. >muh fudd
It's funny that 90% of all handgun NDs happen with striker fired single actions like a glock >t...t...that's just because striker fired single actions got the biggest market share
>if it goes bang when you pull the trigger it is functioning incorrectly
this is insane and retarded >90% of NDs happen with glock
because it's the babbys first pistol and widely issued to cops and such who are extra unsafe at everything.
3 weeks ago
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Glocks are somewhere between double and single action in that the remainder of the cocking energy for the striker is done via the pull. If you want a true double action striker it'd be the P99 and a Brazilian pistol that I cannot remember immediately. Other more modern striker fired pistols are much more "single action" in that their striker is more precocked sure.
3 weeks ago
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If the """""""double action""""""" has the same trigger weight as a single action it doesn't matter.
3 weeks ago
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oh yea? go ahead and pull the trigger twice without touching the slide then.
>there's only ever one safety that matters.
You can keep your fingers as far away from the trigger as you want. If it still goes bang the moment something else touches the trigger it's an unsafe piece of shit. >muh fudd
It's funny that 90% of all handgun NDs happen with striker fired single actions like a glock >t...t...that's just because striker fired single actions got the biggest market share
These are so fucking retarded and no shit James Bond here eventually finally NDed. There's a reason your cc stays in its holster and not in your belt holster, and then car holster, and then belt holster, and then car holster, and then your purse, and then your holster, and then your glove box, and then between your seat cushions, and then shoved up your ass. And to use it for a gun with no safety, it's too bad he didn't shoot himself while he was at it
>be me 6 months ago >go to test drive a new tesla while cc'ing a micro 1911 >gun is digging in to my side while driving so I go to adjust it >cocked_but_unlocked.mkv >BOOM then hisssssssssSSSSSSSSS! >pull over fast and gtfo to escape the chemical smoke eruptuting everywhere >Car is now being consumed by a jet of hell fire shooting into the interior >think "my god what have I done!?" >call the tesla dealership and claim their car tried to kill me >Tell the salesman riding along "you heard the boom when the battery ruptured right? shits crazy!" >am picked up and told if I give them a second chance they would sell me a model y for cost. >I politely decline and decide to pay for all the repairs I've been putting of on my grand marquis.
tunnels aren't safe for anything combustible, gasoline and diesel included. Simply because as something burns, it's going to make a high speed stream of air feeding the fire. that is simply a risk associated with tunnels, no matter the drivetrain of the car.
PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without negligent discharging at least once, you aren't handling it enough. NDs are a natural part of handling weapons, just like tweaking your back is part of weightlifting and car accidents are part of driving. I ND several times a year because I actually HANDLE and know how to USE my weapons. It makes me a better firearms handler and marksman, and it's a small part of the price you pay in the sheepdog lifestyle Simple fact is, the "safety mentality" will build mental blocks in your head that will get you killed. You need to be comfortable putting your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun wherever you want no matter the time, place, or status of the weapon. Taking time to check whether the gun is loaded whenever you pick one up will serve to make you hesitate in a personal defense scenario. You fucking safety idiots are going to get people killed all because of this fucking "ND" shaming. Guns are inherently dangerous, you need to accept it.
There's nothing wrong with it, time or place NDs happen to everyone
>At friends apartment at college. >Just bought my first pistol from a gun show (I was 18) >Drinking with friends >Show them my new Jericho >Try to manually decock >Thumb slips on hammer, ND into celling Upstairs neighbors too high and drunk (underage and illegal drugs) to call the police.
Second time
>At range >Showing friend pistol >Think gun is unloaded >Point at ground show him how to wrack and pull the trigger. >Forgot loaded mag in >Shoot between his feet
Third time
>At parents house. >Just bought a sig from a guy >Get home >Try swapping slides with another sig I had >Forgot the other sig slide was chambered. >Pull trigger >Shoot parents wall
Fourth time
>At my new house >Playing with a friend's 5.56 AK >Release bolt >Slam fires round into ground
Fifth time
>Showing a friend how to use it >No idea how but a round got chambered >Show him how the trigger works >Pull trigger >Shoots round into floor in the same place as before
Sixth time
>Thought maybe the house was haunted >Grab a sig >Physically clear it, (racked the slide 3 times) with no magazine in pull trigger at the same hole >Round goes off
Seventh time
>Friend brings over a used >Glock wants me to look over it >I grab it and pull the trigger without clearing it >Didn't even realize the thing was loaded.
Eighth time
>Friend brings over his transferable Mac 10 >I had no idea how open bolt guns worked. >He's showing it off to me I put a loaded mag it and decided to try and release the bolt (I thought it shot from a closed bolt) >Pulled the trigger for some reason >Shot 3 rounds into my wall
Ninth time >be me, lcpl, 2111 small arms repair, usmc reserves. >Officers go to range for pistol qualifications. I'm the armorer on deck. Officers lined up at firing line listening to course of fire. Dark green skipper promptly shoots ground at his feet. I have to give him another round. Dickhead should have had that round count against his score. >Roll into the armory one day and everyone is oddly quiet. Smell burnt powder. People are rubbing their ears. See chipped concrete floor. Armorers carry loaded m9's and sarge fucking popped one inside the armory. That information never left the armory, so no one got in trouble.
Tenth Time >cold as fuck (like 3° outside) >new BP pistol I got myself for my birthday >have thick wool gloves on >cock the gun >fire down range >wew it smells like bbq >cock the hammer while tilting revolver back to clear the previous cap that got jammed >gloves plus fingers = that shit fired >put a .44 caliber hole through the top of the shed we were under >feel retarded
Eleventh time >in training >it's Wales >I hate Wales >it's raining >again >day 4 of a 7 day exercise >settling into an admin routine after conducting a night raid, we're all pisswrapped and tired >taking my boots off in my shell scrape to change socks to prevent that sweet sweet trench foot >girl one scrape over is stripping weapon to clean >battle buddy is looking visibly concerned at her >"hey aren't you supposed to take off the mag-" >Naughty Dennis makes an appearance >EEEEEEEEEE >not expecting the ND, so I jump forward knocking over my mess tin and stick my foot in the dragon fuel heating the water scalding the sole of my foot >deathly silence and that sinking oh shit feeling sinks in >it's still raining >I fucking hate Wales
Twelth Time >Basic Training >Just defended BIV site from enemy attack for our training >Go to rifle clearing station before entering site again >Two women are ahead of me in line. >They don't remove their mags before clearing, so blank rounds gets loaded into their chambers. >Go to dry fire, both rifles go off and our instructors hear. >They're immediately ordered to the command tent >Rest of the time in the field they carried sticks and now have a serious incident charge on their records.
Thirteenth time >get home after a long day out >run to the bathroom >wash my hands >no towel in the bathroom so kinda half ass wipe them on my pants >take out ccw >try to manually decock it >hammer slips from my thumb >put a hole through my sink and water line >guessing maybe 10 gallons of water sprayed out before I could turn it off
Fourteeth time >Go to the local range with a buddy at university >ROTC group there teaching new cadets to shoot >Be using the steel targets and one of them in full tacticool battle rattle approaches >Starts talking to us about pistols and bragging about his "service" >Friend and I humoring him and chatting about our .45 pistols >He starts going on about how 9mm is better for the military and it's better to have more rounds when "you're in the shit". >As he's pointing it at the ground talking about this shooting technique he learned. Where he places his pointing finger just below the slide and pull the trigger with the middle finger. >He then discharges the pistol no even 1ft from my foot. I look down at my foot in shock. >Starts playing it off and I'm like you are a stupid fuck. >Gets indigent and starts saying it was just an accident get over it. >Go up to the guys Captain (Actual Captain not gay ROTC Captain) and explain what his cadet just did. He stares at the guy and just apologizes and summons the guy over. >We leave afterwards but I like to think nothing happened as ROTC are a bunch of pampered gays.
Fifteenth time >spent all day cleaning a and removing and engine from an exhaust fan in my kitchen >finish tired and angry at 1 am >hop in my bed cause i had class at 8 am >then out of nowhere my dog starts loosing his shit and gose to my deck >i grab my shotty with 4 in the tube and open my deck door > i proceed to rack my welfare classic maverick 88 with one hand thinking i was a badass scaring off the bad guys >what ever that was their ran off and i walk back in thinking i protected my castle >i proceed to walk into my kitchen to quench the thirst of the king > i point my scepter at the cabinet and "dryfire" >BOOM,,EEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEE >all that fine china, gone in a flash > i was so tired that i forgot to check the chamber > i proceeded to feel like a retard for the next couple months and still get shit for it too this day >dont be me, be smart and practice common sense
Sixteenth time >Be drinking white claws >Get a good buzz going >Decide to play with Ruger Vaquero >Forget I had it loaded with ratshot >Accidentally pepper TV screen with tons of pellets
Seventeenth time >buy a pistol with the hammer exposed >thought if the hammer is down i dont need to keep it on safety >show it to my bro >he points it at wall facing moms side >he pulls the trigger >the hammer MOVES BY ITSELF from his retard strength >gun goes off
Eighteenth time >typing list of ND's >move hand from keyboard to mouse to hit post >hand grabs pistol on desk >shoot a 9x18 into wall
Nineteenth time >carry suppressed old .22lr hammer fired because if/when have to shoot defensively don't want sirens and lights and shit, just want to scuttle away with collar pulled up to hide from all the vidya >so can't always IWB depending on clothing/weather >carry in shoulder bag, sometimes very compact one, muzzle pointed at sky, hammer down on a loaded chamber as the hammer must be cocked to fire and I'm faster doing that than racking the slide >at small grocery store with 10 year old son. Yes, he knew. >slip shoulder bag off to dig out grocery bag at cash register >slips too fast, bag hits floor >little noise, as of breaking glass thermometer or something >quite bright in store, and as my heart rate goes through the roof and I try to look calm while picking up bag, digging out grocery bag, pulling out money to pay... a thin stream of drywall dust falls between the three of us, me, my son, and the store owner >son sees it too, his eyes and mine both dart to the ceiling maybe 12 feet up >I quickly force my eyes down and deal with bagging veggies and stuff
Twentyith time >playing with my takedown .22 >half rack slide and look in chamber >nothing there >slam foreend home >pull trigger >round goes off >turns out the extractor broke and didn't clear the gun when I racked the slide
Twenty-First time >Playing with K98 in my house >Leave the rifle loaded at some point and forget >Sometimes, I like to take out the magazine and dry fire to practice working the bolt >Remove magazine from the rifle and the four rounds within >Forget I had one in the chamber >Proceed to pull trigger >bang
Twenty-Second time >I heard a noise on the balcony >grabbed my gun, Custom Sig P365 9 mm Federal hollow point. >tripped >squeezed the trigger >fired a hole through 3 feet of wall, into and out of my fridge, it bounced off the floor, and buried itself in some wood.
wenty-Third time >be me college kid lives at home >on zoom call dry firing my new glock 17 with no magazines because hi cap mags didnt come with > mic muted video off > remember I have one spare 9mm round > drop it in the chamber aim down sights take it out > rinse and repeat > drop it in the chamber close the slide set the gun down > answer question asked of me on zoom class > mute mic pick up glock continue dry fire practice > BANG > first shot of the gun was ND through my desk frame into the wood trimming of my room > ears ringing > open the door to my room and my brother just looks at me and calls me a fucking idiot > start laughing and explain to him how retarded I was and to never tell anyone ever lmao > he tells me in sounded like a large textbook hitting the ground > to this day none of my friends know > i now have two 19 round glock mags and 3 10 rounders > keep my glock loaded 90% of the time > chalk up the ND to a one off and triple check everytime I dry fire practice
Twenty-Fourth time >walk into motorcycle dealership and inform the staff that I am carrying (concealed) >strike up conversation with parts counter guy and once again inform him that I am carrying (concealed) >wanted to show him how easy I can field strip my Glock 19 >pull out gun, rack slide, drop mag, and pull trigger to disassemble >round goes off and buries into wooden table in middle of store
Twenty-Fifth time >ND'd into my face climbing through a fence line. >Spend a full 6 months in the hospital in recovery and undergoing multiple surgeries
Twenty-Sixth time >spent all day cleaning a and removing and engine from an exhaust fan in my kitchen >finish tired and angry at 1 am >hop in my bed cause i had class at 8 am >then out of nowhere my dog starts loosing his shit and gose to my deck >i grab my shotty with 4 in the tube and open my deck door > i proceed to rack my welfare classic maverick 88 with one hand thinking i was a badass scaring off the bad guys >what ever that was their ran off and i walk back in thinking i protected my castle >i proceed to walk into my kitchen to quench the thirst of the king > i point my scepter at the cabinet and "dryfire" >BOOM,,EEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEE >all that fine china, gone in a flash > i was so tired that i forgot to check the chamber > i proceeded to feel like a retard for the next couple months and still get shit for it too this day >dont be me, be smart and practice common sense
Twenty-Seventh time >hanging out having a few drinks decide to watch Sicareo 2 again >get to the part where Benecio straight murders the guy in the street >im like a much less svelte version of him(portugese/itialian with a little Malta thrown in) >usually unload my firearms when libations are present but I had some weirdo FedEx guy give the stink eye earlier >YEAH PAL LET ME SEE SOME ID YOURE ON MY FUCKING PROPERTY! >go to recreate the bumpfire scene and ND 4 times in a row
>be me 2018 >inna mall shoppin >have to take a shit >pop a squat >bored out of my mind >cant shit >come on get out >hnnnng >rabbit turd >gonna be here a while >pull out Model 69 >happy i have a toilet gun >mirin my baby >checkin for anything wrong with her >shes fucking perfect >bowel movement finally >brown snake inna toilet >clean self up >legs are asleep trying to get off toilet >struggle >grab cripple assistance bar to help me up >BOOM >fucking ND into the restroom toilet >people screaming >EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >get my fucking pants on and run outta bathroom with others >pretend i know nothing and act scared swith all the other folk that i heard gunshot >EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >go home >PTSD of embarrassment has caused me to get a tick every time i remember incident
Twenty-Ninth time >Basic training, finished urban training with blanks. >Clear rifle in front of DS. Begin 12m ruck back to the bays. >Bored as shit for 3 hours. Constantly switch selector back and forth between safe and fire. >Even put pressure on trigger a lot bringing it to the edge of the break, but never firing it. >Get to the bays, everyone is on line in PTs ready for inspection before lights out. >I clear my rifle before DS walks in and see brass fly out. >Bunk mate sees it too, he holds my rifle as I make a dead sprint to the latrine to throw the blank away. >Get back online as DS walks in.
Thirtieth time >be me >get cheap laser sight and flashlight off a range boomer >probably shit tier Chinese trash but free >install it >spend afternoon zeroing my sights on my ar >eat a dinner >go back outside in the dark realizing i never zeroed the laser sights sights >laser looks fucking awesome at night >far as the eye can see a full stobe goes across my yard >point it into the field to see how far it goes >ND into a cow
Thirty-first time >be me >chilling out in dorm >practicing my slide on my pistol >pulling slide back and letting it go real quick >watching bullets eject is fun >hmm I wonder if I can slide it while the trigger is pulled >without even thinking just pull the trigger >ND into my oil heater >immedietly throw gun accross the room into my clothes basket >half an hour goes past, nobody has come to my room
Lucky I got away with it
Thirty-Second time >begin M9 cleaning process >trigger is stuck for some reason >"Hmm why won't the trigger move?" >squeeze it really hard >nothing happens >stare at M9 like retard for 15 seconds >"Oh, the safety!" >click safety off >BLAM
Thirty Third time >black powder season >been out all weekend >last day, about to leave empty handed >rainy off and on >using my uncles gun >tells me to pop it into the ground so he can clean it when we get back >click >turn to my uncle >hey Roy *BANG* >fire a round right next to his foot >moisture fucked up the cap and it second hangfired
Thirty Fourth time >walking in back pasture with buddy >I have my 50s Winchester 94, he is borrowing my old NEF single 20 >looking for hogs (or anything moving really) but get bored and start shooting bottles and anything else we can target >I just shot, ran the action, and loaded a new round >dropping the hammer to half cock so we can continue walking, my thumb slips off the hammer >It fires into the dirt less than 2 ft in front of my buddy, he is showered in dirt clods
Thirty Fifth time >be me >had just gotten my first gun from my dad >it was a marlin .22 got a box of ammo too >play around with it in my room >loading the mag, cycling the action and watching the rounds fly out >older brother gets home from work >hey check out my new gun >shoot his lunchbox out of his hand
Overall you shouldn't feel too bad about NDs. It's part of owning guns, and you should get used to them.
Though they may be pastas, I know some people who legitmately had incidents like these, and almost every time it's because they HAD to tell EVERYONE in their vicinity they were cc'ing and were fucking around with their gun to show it off. NDs are the least retarded of some of the things that happened.
One of them even got mugged because they were showing their ccw to some friends when a guy who had overheard everything showed up at their table with a gun of his own and took it off them along with everyone's money. Your fancy Sig can't do shit for you when it's unloaded because you wanted to flex on the normies.
It just goes to show that many people who conceal carry do so as a way of indicating status and don't actually respect it as a means of self defense. Just another symptom of status being based on one's consoomption.
>inadvertently pull your gun's trigger because you are a complete and utter retard >gun goes off >this is the fault of the gun for going off when you pull the trigger
PrepHole at it again
>deer was only pretending to be dead
using the laws of physics i shoot backwards to go faster
The average person is pretty retarded
US doesn't really direct traffic with lines, they are just a suggestion to keep orderly. if it isn't explained on a sign it's not real.
>the virgin circle driver vs. the chad linear driver
He’s based and efficient. Fuck your kabuki circles
Guy who drove through is dumb
Guy who waited trying to figure out a new scenario as to not get into an accident is smart
as much as i hate driving on large busy roundabouts (bong) it does ease traffic and keeps it all flowing especially the smaller ones which turn a 4-way intersection into basically a straight road in flow of traffic
crazy how americans refuse to use these more and desire their 8 lane uber highways that are choked with traffic, driving tests are also more lenient in the US and it really does show in the average state of their drivers
>Brit
You don't quite understand America, 8 lane highways exist in specific states and in specific regions of states where we need to pass something like half a million cars a day through an area. Outside of those areas you're more likely to see 2-3 lane highways, which are the equivalent of your "city highways." A roundabout simply does not "cope" with a set of synchronized traffic lights for throughput especially when it comes to having to do so in a space efficient manner. If you try to replace a simple 3 lane (total 6 on both sides) intersection arterial road where average traffic speed is in excess of 45mph you'd need a roundabout as big as the Arc de Triomphe to service the traffic per major arterial intersection.
The one where the Arc de Triomphe is at*. Roundabouts are neat if you are using them for low-medium traffic situations. I've seen videos of them and in some states and some areas I can see them working but they're only a step above unsynchronized traffic lights on 2 lane roads.
Something like this needs to deal with traffic peaks that effectively hit like flood surges during several hour long spans.
The other thing to consider is that the US generally has the *space* available to put up big mixmasters, and to run bypasses in a loop around major cities to give drivers an option of avoiding downtown altogether.
Tiny roundabouts have become popular in the upscale parts of certain cities. Personally, I've always thought they were more dangerous than stop signs, which have simple rules (FIFO, right-hand rule for ties), or red lights.
>I've always thought they were more dangerous than stop signs
they have the appearance of seeming more dangerous which is often good at getting people to behave more safely. While there is still a decent risk of getting in an accident, it is rarely the kind of accident that kills people.
A lot of traffic circles are being installed in my area to replace 2-way stops. They are at best sidegrades and at worse you lack indicators to tell where a car is going since you don't get turn signals. One of them was installed with right-turn lanes that bypass the circle itself and it is a genuine improvement over the stoplight that was there prior though. Now if they'd just stop shutting down intersections for 10 months to build them.
civil engineer here. Roundabouts are useful for low-medium traffic, and randomized flow rate. They are terrible for directional traffic. for example in the morning 5x as many people approach from the south compared to other directions. this is a situation where you want a traffic signal.
>backwards muttistan
>synchronized traffic lights
i've watched enough of the tesla self driving beta video's to know that your traffic lights are hilariously stupid and slow compared to some backwater fuckoff nowhere traffic lights here that will respond to traffic within a second of detection, blatant lie
>driving tests are also more lenient in the US and it really does show in the average state of their drivers
Bongs won't gong this but my local DMV wasn't in realistic driving range of the one (1) roundabout in my 100k+ town. It was like some fantastical fairy circle. Other towns would have 0 roundabouts. They literally couldn't have put it in the practical part of the test.
im not using your roundabout moron
Interesting, I felt the exact opposite way. Guy who drove straight through could clearly see he wouldnt hit anyone and was going the most efficient route. Guy who waited had his left turn signal on and clearly would have went the wrong way if there wasn't a car there, couldn't comprehend a basic concept after several seconds and wasn't able to improvise like the first guy either.
In the car needn't mean while driving. Fumbling with the gun while getting in/out perhaps?
By carrying a piece of shit modern striker fired gun which is nothing but a single action pistol without safety carried in condition 0
If the trigger ist the only manual """safety""" of a gun it's an inherently unsafe gun.
go be a retarded fudd somewhere else please
Enjoy the permanent risk of an ND you lobotomized fuck.
theres always a risk of ND when you're a retard, there's only ever one safety that matters.
When there's a manual safety lever or a DA trigger pull there's a much lower, barely existing risk.
>muh Glock ain't really single action ist GLAWK SAFETY ACTION
no the risk is the exact same
It's not you dumb fuck. You need a bigger force to engage a DA trigger. And if there's a manual safety engaged you can pull as much as you want.
thats just 3 separate triggers, if you can accidentally pull 1 trigger you will inevitably accidentally pull 3
Anon they make retard strength pull DAO triggers for law enforcement. 10lbs of JUST in the form of a LEM trigger for when you don't trust someone to operate a safety but also don't trust them to not get into situations where something can tickle the trigger.
yeah and they negligently discharge very regularly, there was a famous empire state building? shooting where cops couldn't manage their guns.
Sometimes you can try to fix stupid.
Did you huff glue before you started posting? Is that the retarded form of thinking thats needed to call a modern striker fired single action a safe gun? Kek!
all guns are unsafe, anon. considering any gun safe is a negligent attitude.
Another excuse. All guns are equally unsafe with the safety off and SA trigger weight. Behind that there are different levels of unsafe.
The CZ07 I'm CCing is less unsafe. Even with one in the pipe. Hammer down, resting in the safety notch. First shot DA trigger pull, all the other ones SA trigger pull.
to someone practiced in both SA and DA trigger pulls it's less unsafe, to an average retard or LEO it's exactly the same trigger pull.
Glocks are unironically double action. The striker is under no tension before you pull the trigger. You pulling the trigger cocks the guns.
its like 1.5 action, partially cocked before you pull the trigger.
>if it goes bang when you pull the trigger it is functioning incorrectly
this is insane and retarded
>90% of NDs happen with glock
because it's the babbys first pistol and widely issued to cops and such who are extra unsafe at everything.
Glocks are somewhere between double and single action in that the remainder of the cocking energy for the striker is done via the pull. If you want a true double action striker it'd be the P99 and a Brazilian pistol that I cannot remember immediately. Other more modern striker fired pistols are much more "single action" in that their striker is more precocked sure.
If the """""""double action""""""" has the same trigger weight as a single action it doesn't matter.
oh yea? go ahead and pull the trigger twice without touching the slide then.
>there's only ever one safety that matters.
You can keep your fingers as far away from the trigger as you want. If it still goes bang the moment something else touches the trigger it's an unsafe piece of shit.
>muh fudd
It's funny that 90% of all handgun NDs happen with striker fired single actions like a glock
>t...t...that's just because striker fired single actions got the biggest market share
>posted via TapaTalk on Samsung Galaxy S20
What safety-less striker fired pistol did this?
>It was a Glock and not a Sig
Nature is healing...
Did the customer get Glock legged or were they lucky enough to only have damage done to material and not their own body?
that's pointed directly at the pedals (and the driver's foot), but the ND hit the exhaust in the back...
pretty sure that's linking to the catalytic converter, I think those flexible pipe sections are usually put close to the engine.
These are so fucking retarded and no shit James Bond here eventually finally NDed. There's a reason your cc stays in its holster and not in your belt holster, and then car holster, and then belt holster, and then car holster, and then your purse, and then your holster, and then your glove box, and then between your seat cushions, and then shoved up your ass. And to use it for a gun with no safety, it's too bad he didn't shoot himself while he was at it
>so many excuses.
With a DA/SA or a pistol with manual safety you could do everything you've listed just fine.
safeties are for pussies
Clearly not the same vehicle. Dumb holster placement
>how do you ND while driving?
Glock.
Many states don't allow ATVs on public roads because they're deemed unsafe.
But every moron can carry a condition zero single action just fine.
>be me 6 months ago
>go to test drive a new tesla while cc'ing a micro 1911
>gun is digging in to my side while driving so I go to adjust it
>cocked_but_unlocked.mkv
>BOOM then hisssssssssSSSSSSSSS!
>pull over fast and gtfo to escape the chemical smoke eruptuting everywhere
>Car is now being consumed by a jet of hell fire shooting into the interior
>think "my god what have I done!?"
>call the tesla dealership and claim their car tried to kill me
>Tell the salesman riding along "you heard the boom when the battery ruptured right? shits crazy!"
>am picked up and told if I give them a second chance they would sell me a model y for cost.
>I politely decline and decide to pay for all the repairs I've been putting of on my grand marquis.
lol I hope this is a true story
go back
I don't lurk PrepHole anymore because it is infested with chuds and NAFO fags (same thing though, really)
something that's always concerned me is people driving through long tunnels in these battery powered cars. Shit just doesn't seem safe.
tunnels aren't safe for anything combustible, gasoline and diesel included. Simply because as something burns, it's going to make a high speed stream of air feeding the fire. that is simply a risk associated with tunnels, no matter the drivetrain of the car.
PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without negligent discharging at least once, you aren't handling it enough. NDs are a natural part of handling weapons, just like tweaking your back is part of weightlifting and car accidents are part of driving. I ND several times a year because I actually HANDLE and know how to USE my weapons. It makes me a better firearms handler and marksman, and it's a small part of the price you pay in the sheepdog lifestyle Simple fact is, the "safety mentality" will build mental blocks in your head that will get you killed. You need to be comfortable putting your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun wherever you want no matter the time, place, or status of the weapon. Taking time to check whether the gun is loaded whenever you pick one up will serve to make you hesitate in a personal defense scenario. You fucking safety idiots are going to get people killed all because of this fucking "ND" shaming. Guns are inherently dangerous, you need to accept it.
NDs are a normal part of car ownership
Riding around with your Home Depot special in the passenger seat. Hit brakes, shotgun falls and slamfires.
There's nothing wrong with it, time or place NDs happen to everyone
>At friends apartment at college.
>Just bought my first pistol from a gun show (I was 18)
>Drinking with friends
>Show them my new Jericho
>Try to manually decock
>Thumb slips on hammer, ND into celling Upstairs neighbors too high and drunk (underage and illegal drugs) to call the police.
Second time
>At range
>Showing friend pistol
>Think gun is unloaded
>Point at ground show him how to wrack and pull the trigger.
>Forgot loaded mag in
>Shoot between his feet
Third time
>At parents house.
>Just bought a sig from a guy
>Get home
>Try swapping slides with another sig I had
>Forgot the other sig slide was chambered.
>Pull trigger
>Shoot parents wall
Fourth time
>At my new house
>Playing with a friend's 5.56 AK
>Release bolt
>Slam fires round into ground
Fifth time
>Showing a friend how to use it
>No idea how but a round got chambered
>Show him how the trigger works
>Pull trigger
>Shoots round into floor in the same place as before
Sixth time
>Thought maybe the house was haunted
>Grab a sig
>Physically clear it, (racked the slide 3 times) with no magazine in pull trigger at the same hole
>Round goes off
Seventh time
>Friend brings over a used
>Glock wants me to look over it
>I grab it and pull the trigger without clearing it
>Didn't even realize the thing was loaded.
Eighth time
>Friend brings over his transferable Mac 10
>I had no idea how open bolt guns worked.
>He's showing it off to me I put a loaded mag it and decided to try and release the bolt (I thought it shot from a closed bolt)
>Pulled the trigger for some reason
>Shot 3 rounds into my wall
Ninth time
>be me, lcpl, 2111 small arms repair, usmc reserves.
>Officers go to range for pistol qualifications. I'm the armorer on deck. Officers lined up at firing line listening to course of fire. Dark green skipper promptly shoots ground at his feet. I have to give him another round. Dickhead should have had that round count against his score.
>Roll into the armory one day and everyone is oddly quiet. Smell burnt powder. People are rubbing their ears. See chipped concrete floor. Armorers carry loaded m9's and sarge fucking popped one inside the armory. That information never left the armory, so no one got in trouble.
Tenth Time
>cold as fuck (like 3° outside)
>new BP pistol I got myself for my birthday
>have thick wool gloves on
>cock the gun
>fire down range
>wew it smells like bbq
>cock the hammer while tilting revolver back to clear the previous cap that got jammed
>gloves plus fingers = that shit fired
>put a .44 caliber hole through the top of the shed we were under
>feel retarded
Eleventh time
>in training
>it's Wales
>I hate Wales
>it's raining
>again
>day 4 of a 7 day exercise
>settling into an admin routine after conducting a night raid, we're all pisswrapped and tired
>taking my boots off in my shell scrape to change socks to prevent that sweet sweet trench foot
>girl one scrape over is stripping weapon to clean
>battle buddy is looking visibly concerned at her
>"hey aren't you supposed to take off the mag-"
>Naughty Dennis makes an appearance
>EEEEEEEEEE
>not expecting the ND, so I jump forward knocking over my mess tin and stick my foot in the dragon fuel heating the water scalding the sole of my foot
>deathly silence and that sinking oh shit feeling sinks in
>it's still raining
>I fucking hate Wales
Twelth Time
>Basic Training
>Just defended BIV site from enemy attack for our training
>Go to rifle clearing station before entering site again
>Two women are ahead of me in line.
>They don't remove their mags before clearing, so blank rounds gets loaded into their chambers.
>Go to dry fire, both rifles go off and our instructors hear.
>They're immediately ordered to the command tent
>Rest of the time in the field they carried sticks and now have a serious incident charge on their records.
Thirteenth time
>get home after a long day out
>run to the bathroom
>wash my hands
>no towel in the bathroom so kinda half ass wipe them on my pants
>take out ccw
>try to manually decock it
>hammer slips from my thumb
>put a hole through my sink and water line
>guessing maybe 10 gallons of water sprayed out before I could turn it off
Fourteeth time
>Go to the local range with a buddy at university
>ROTC group there teaching new cadets to shoot
>Be using the steel targets and one of them in full tacticool battle rattle approaches
>Starts talking to us about pistols and bragging about his "service"
>Friend and I humoring him and chatting about our .45 pistols
>He starts going on about how 9mm is better for the military and it's better to have more rounds when "you're in the shit".
>As he's pointing it at the ground talking about this shooting technique he learned. Where he places his pointing finger just below the slide and pull the trigger with the middle finger.
>He then discharges the pistol no even 1ft from my foot. I look down at my foot in shock.
>Starts playing it off and I'm like you are a stupid fuck.
>Gets indigent and starts saying it was just an accident get over it.
>Go up to the guys Captain (Actual Captain not gay ROTC Captain) and explain what his cadet just did. He stares at the guy and just apologizes and summons the guy over.
>We leave afterwards but I like to think nothing happened as ROTC are a bunch of pampered gays.
Fifteenth time
>spent all day cleaning a and removing and engine from an exhaust fan in my kitchen
>finish tired and angry at 1 am
>hop in my bed cause i had class at 8 am
>then out of nowhere my dog starts loosing his shit and gose to my deck
>i grab my shotty with 4 in the tube and open my deck door
> i proceed to rack my welfare classic maverick 88 with one hand thinking i was a badass scaring off the bad guys
>what ever that was their ran off and i walk back in thinking i protected my castle
>i proceed to walk into my kitchen to quench the thirst of the king
> i point my scepter at the cabinet and "dryfire"
>BOOM,,EEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEE
>all that fine china, gone in a flash
> i was so tired that i forgot to check the chamber
> i proceeded to feel like a retard for the next couple months and still get shit for it too this day
>dont be me, be smart and practice common sense
Sixteenth time
>Be drinking white claws
>Get a good buzz going
>Decide to play with Ruger Vaquero
>Forget I had it loaded with ratshot
>Accidentally pepper TV screen with tons of pellets
Seventeenth time
>buy a pistol with the hammer exposed
>thought if the hammer is down i dont need to keep it on safety
>show it to my bro
>he points it at wall facing moms side
>he pulls the trigger
>the hammer MOVES BY ITSELF from his retard strength
>gun goes off
Eighteenth time
>typing list of ND's
>move hand from keyboard to mouse to hit post
>hand grabs pistol on desk
>shoot a 9x18 into wall
Nineteenth time
>carry suppressed old .22lr hammer fired because if/when have to shoot defensively don't want sirens and lights and shit, just want to scuttle away with collar pulled up to hide from all the vidya
>so can't always IWB depending on clothing/weather
>carry in shoulder bag, sometimes very compact one, muzzle pointed at sky, hammer down on a loaded chamber as the hammer must be cocked to fire and I'm faster doing that than racking the slide
>at small grocery store with 10 year old son. Yes, he knew.
>slip shoulder bag off to dig out grocery bag at cash register
>slips too fast, bag hits floor
>little noise, as of breaking glass thermometer or something
>quite bright in store, and as my heart rate goes through the roof and I try to look calm while picking up bag, digging out grocery bag, pulling out money to pay... a thin stream of drywall dust falls between the three of us, me, my son, and the store owner
>son sees it too, his eyes and mine both dart to the ceiling maybe 12 feet up
>I quickly force my eyes down and deal with bagging veggies and stuff
Twentyith time
>playing with my takedown .22
>half rack slide and look in chamber
>nothing there
>slam foreend home
>pull trigger
>round goes off
>turns out the extractor broke and didn't clear the gun when I racked the slide
Twenty-First time
>Playing with K98 in my house
>Leave the rifle loaded at some point and forget
>Sometimes, I like to take out the magazine and dry fire to practice working the bolt
>Remove magazine from the rifle and the four rounds within
>Forget I had one in the chamber
>Proceed to pull trigger
>bang
Twenty-Second time
>I heard a noise on the balcony
>grabbed my gun, Custom Sig P365 9 mm Federal hollow point.
>tripped
>squeezed the trigger
>fired a hole through 3 feet of wall, into and out of my fridge, it bounced off the floor, and buried itself in some wood.
wenty-Third time
>be me college kid lives at home
>on zoom call dry firing my new glock 17 with no magazines because hi cap mags didnt come with
> mic muted video off
> remember I have one spare 9mm round
> drop it in the chamber aim down sights take it out
> rinse and repeat
> drop it in the chamber close the slide set the gun down
> answer question asked of me on zoom class
> mute mic pick up glock continue dry fire practice
> BANG
> first shot of the gun was ND through my desk frame into the wood trimming of my room
> ears ringing
> open the door to my room and my brother just looks at me and calls me a fucking idiot
> start laughing and explain to him how retarded I was and to never tell anyone ever lmao
> he tells me in sounded like a large textbook hitting the ground
> to this day none of my friends know
> i now have two 19 round glock mags and 3 10 rounders
> keep my glock loaded 90% of the time
> chalk up the ND to a one off and triple check everytime I dry fire practice
Twenty-Fourth time
>walk into motorcycle dealership and inform the staff that I am carrying (concealed)
>strike up conversation with parts counter guy and once again inform him that I am carrying (concealed)
>wanted to show him how easy I can field strip my Glock 19
>pull out gun, rack slide, drop mag, and pull trigger to disassemble
>round goes off and buries into wooden table in middle of store
Twenty-Fifth time
>ND'd into my face climbing through a fence line.
>Spend a full 6 months in the hospital in recovery and undergoing multiple surgeries
Twenty-Sixth time
>spent all day cleaning a and removing and engine from an exhaust fan in my kitchen
>finish tired and angry at 1 am
>hop in my bed cause i had class at 8 am
>then out of nowhere my dog starts loosing his shit and gose to my deck
>i grab my shotty with 4 in the tube and open my deck door
> i proceed to rack my welfare classic maverick 88 with one hand thinking i was a badass scaring off the bad guys
>what ever that was their ran off and i walk back in thinking i protected my castle
>i proceed to walk into my kitchen to quench the thirst of the king
> i point my scepter at the cabinet and "dryfire"
>BOOM,,EEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEE
>all that fine china, gone in a flash
> i was so tired that i forgot to check the chamber
> i proceeded to feel like a retard for the next couple months and still get shit for it too this day
>dont be me, be smart and practice common sense
Twenty-Seventh time
>hanging out having a few drinks decide to watch Sicareo 2 again
>get to the part where Benecio straight murders the guy in the street
>im like a much less svelte version of him(portugese/itialian with a little Malta thrown in)
>usually unload my firearms when libations are present but I had some weirdo FedEx guy give the stink eye earlier
>YEAH PAL LET ME SEE SOME ID YOURE ON MY FUCKING PROPERTY!
>go to recreate the bumpfire scene and ND 4 times in a row
>be me 2018
>inna mall shoppin
>have to take a shit
>pop a squat
>bored out of my mind
>cant shit
>come on get out
>hnnnng
>rabbit turd
>gonna be here a while
>pull out Model 69
>happy i have a toilet gun
>mirin my baby
>checkin for anything wrong with her
>shes fucking perfect
>bowel movement finally
>brown snake inna toilet
>clean self up
>legs are asleep trying to get off toilet
>struggle
>grab cripple assistance bar to help me up
>BOOM
>fucking ND into the restroom toilet
>people screaming
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>get my fucking pants on and run outta bathroom with others
>pretend i know nothing and act scared swith all the other folk that i heard gunshot
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>go home
>PTSD of embarrassment has caused me to get a tick every time i remember incident
Twenty-Ninth time
>Basic training, finished urban training with blanks.
>Clear rifle in front of DS. Begin 12m ruck back to the bays.
>Bored as shit for 3 hours. Constantly switch selector back and forth between safe and fire.
>Even put pressure on trigger a lot bringing it to the edge of the break, but never firing it.
>Get to the bays, everyone is on line in PTs ready for inspection before lights out.
>I clear my rifle before DS walks in and see brass fly out.
>Bunk mate sees it too, he holds my rifle as I make a dead sprint to the latrine to throw the blank away.
>Get back online as DS walks in.
Thirtieth time
>be me
>get cheap laser sight and flashlight off a range boomer
>probably shit tier Chinese trash but free
>install it
>spend afternoon zeroing my sights on my ar
>eat a dinner
>go back outside in the dark realizing i never zeroed the laser sights sights
>laser looks fucking awesome at night
>far as the eye can see a full stobe goes across my yard
>point it into the field to see how far it goes
>ND into a cow
Thirty-first time
>be me
>chilling out in dorm
>practicing my slide on my pistol
>pulling slide back and letting it go real quick
>watching bullets eject is fun
>hmm I wonder if I can slide it while the trigger is pulled
>without even thinking just pull the trigger
>ND into my oil heater
>immedietly throw gun accross the room into my clothes basket
>half an hour goes past, nobody has come to my room
Lucky I got away with it
Thirty-Second time
>begin M9 cleaning process
>trigger is stuck for some reason
>"Hmm why won't the trigger move?"
>squeeze it really hard
>nothing happens
>stare at M9 like retard for 15 seconds
>"Oh, the safety!"
>click safety off
>BLAM
Thirty Third time
>black powder season
>been out all weekend
>last day, about to leave empty handed
>rainy off and on
>using my uncles gun
>tells me to pop it into the ground so he can clean it when we get back
>click
>turn to my uncle
>hey Roy *BANG*
>fire a round right next to his foot
>moisture fucked up the cap and it second hangfired
Thirty Fourth time
>walking in back pasture with buddy
>I have my 50s Winchester 94, he is borrowing my old NEF single 20
>looking for hogs (or anything moving really) but get bored and start shooting bottles and anything else we can target
>I just shot, ran the action, and loaded a new round
>dropping the hammer to half cock so we can continue walking, my thumb slips off the hammer
>It fires into the dirt less than 2 ft in front of my buddy, he is showered in dirt clods
Thirty Fifth time
>be me
>had just gotten my first gun from my dad
>it was a marlin .22 got a box of ammo too
>play around with it in my room
>loading the mag, cycling the action and watching the rounds fly out
>older brother gets home from work
>hey check out my new gun
>shoot his lunchbox out of his hand
Overall you shouldn't feel too bad about NDs. It's part of owning guns, and you should get used to them.
The pastas are funnier when it is just one post because it draws out all the newfags who feel compelled to reply and call you a retard
there's a character limit to posts
I know, I'm saying limit it to like 5 ND stories because it's better bait.
Nah, part of what makes it funny is that the list continues to grow longer and longer with increasingly ridiculous scenarios that cause NDs
Though they may be pastas, I know some people who legitmately had incidents like these, and almost every time it's because they HAD to tell EVERYONE in their vicinity they were cc'ing and were fucking around with their gun to show it off. NDs are the least retarded of some of the things that happened.
One of them even got mugged because they were showing their ccw to some friends when a guy who had overheard everything showed up at their table with a gun of his own and took it off them along with everyone's money. Your fancy Sig can't do shit for you when it's unloaded because you wanted to flex on the normies.
It just goes to show that many people who conceal carry do so as a way of indicating status and don't actually respect it as a means of self defense. Just another symptom of status being based on one's consoomption.
Nah, constantly adding a new ND makes it funnier.
Okay, I think this pasta has officially gone too far. It's not funny when it takes up an entire section of the thread.
Ssshhh just let it happen.
Was it a sig? Might not have been negligent
>inadvertently pull your gun's trigger because you are a complete and utter retard
>gun goes off
>this is the fault of the gun for going off when you pull the trigger
PrepHole at it again
By carrying a Sig P320.