How do you guys get over the guilt of shooting and applying wear and tear antique firearms?
On the one hand, I'm damaging a piece of history. On the other hand, the person who owns it after me will probably be a dipshit normie....so why the fuck not?
I mean, if you aren't shooting pissing hot loads, throwing it in the bed of your truck and leaving it uncleaned for years at a time, you aren't really doing much in the way of damage.
OP here. Perhaps some experienced PrepHole users can educate us on the amount of wear and tear is to be expected. As a kid I was always taught to clean my gun to an extreme level because "gun powder will dissolve your barrel". Which is nonsense with modern primers. I probably did more damaged to my 91/30 cleaning it than my Tula ammo ever could have. Now I have a crippling preservation mindset where I'm afraid of damaging even my new firearms. It's annoying.
Hang around on /msg/ for a while my new fren. You'll learn what you need to know.
>Hang around on /msg/ for a while my new fren.
Lmao no one on /msg/ actually shoots their guns
>b-b-but look i posted a pic of me shooting my $100 mosin
Yeah and you tripfags jerk off about spending $1000s on other guns that mysteriously never get shot
I meant more about the cleaning and preservation aspect you cum chugger.
Plenty of people in /msg/ shoot their guns, they have even had several meets where people brought out everything from machine guns to dozens of milsurps and shot them. They're still obnoxious gays but you're an even more disingenuous gay.
Normal shooting every now and then is not going to cause any appreciable harm to the weapon or affect its value. So long as you aren't being stupid about it like neglecting cleaning, handling the gun roughly, using sketchy ammo, or shooting super high volumes there's no problem.
In my opinion the only antique guns you should avoid shooting are those which are mechanically unsafe or, perhaps, super high end pieces which are currently unfired.
I know that feel too well. I have a G43 that hasn’t been fired since WWII and I’m deeply conflicted about shooting it.
don't let its machine spirit think you forgot about it - just use it with care
Only poorfags worry about damaging old guns
Tools are meant to be wear items and have useable service lifes. Just buy a new one from a "collector" if you damage your old one
>$1500 well used webley has some battle damage I know what I got
Slight budget in my pants-i mean the barrel
A well worn tool has been shown more respect than a pristine one. Well worn being damage incurred from appropriate use, not neglect or abuse. Everything, live or inanimate, endures wear. All we can hope is that wear was incurred bringing something good to the world, or removing something bad from it.
See, this is part of why surplus/antique fags suck. You're part of the history now. Guns are meant to be shot. If you shoot it to the point of needing to replace the barrel, so be it. Keep the old barrel if you want. If you want it be a safe queen, so be it. If you want to sporterize it, so be it. If it wasn't a dirt cheap firearm to begin with, I would say you're a moron for wanting to buy it to modify to begin with, but it's your gun.
Your guns get sad when you don't shoot them. Same thing with cars.
I used to have a mint 1994 Cobra that I daily drove. Local boomers would get so mad seeing my driving my car to work, the grocery store, the bank, but I bought the car to drive, not to sit in a garage.
I make the same argument with guns in that I buy my guns to shoot, not sit in my safe. Obviously, don't use them for 3 gun matches or something, but shoot them plenty. You bought them to enjoy. Shoot them. Don't feel guilty, they want to be shot.
You can be careful with it and get it repaired by gunsmith with some reputation. And it is normal to show and demonstrate antiques which is the only way to make the next generation care about these history otherwise lost or even misinterpreted.
If no one is offering 5 gazzilion for your one-of-a-kind designer-kissed monumental prototype gun then it is not the hot shit yet.
Guns are meant to be shot, use proper amunition with a proper load, clean the gun properly aftewards, enjoy. You are not damaging a piece of history. You are experiencing history in the most hands-on way possible.
Guns are meant to be shot, I've purchased close to two dozen pre-bans, very good condition milsurps, and low serial number examples of guns and shot all of them provided I have ammo. People I know lost their shit when I bought a couple boxed examples of Valmets and AKs and immediately took them to the range, same with several immaculate condition milsurps but I don't give a shit.
>How do you guys get over the guilt of shooting and applying wear and tear antique firearms?
A gun was made to be fired. What a sad existence for a weapon to sit as around like a paperweight
Unless it's a museum specimen or exceeding rare and derives it's value by being pristine, just shoot it. Normal wear and tear from actual use is not the same as bubba fucking it.
I just bought a 118 year old Remington Model 11 and the first thing I did was replace the original, and extremely worn, springs so that I can take it shooting next time I go. I now have four firearms over 100 years old, and apart from the new Remington, all of them occasionally get worked into my range day.
Normal operation will not harm a firearm. I take more care with my valuable, collectible, and old guns than I do with my AR or AKs; they get the nice cases and are set down gently, and they get cleaned after every range trip
I just realized I have four firearms over 100 years old as well. 3 of which are from 1917, and one of which is a Arisaka with a chrysanthemum from before the Kanto earthquake in 1923 (Koichikawa arsenal)
The only one I haven't shot is the Arisaka, and it's more because I never bothered to buy 6.5 Jap. The other 3 get shot.
The reason this is alarming to me is that none of them were over 100 years old when I bought them and I just realized I am getting old.
as long as you're not using corrosive ammo, your cleaning regimen can be pretty rudimentary. just make sure the parts that should move, do, and the parts that shouldn't move, don't. if the bore is visually shiny and you can't see fouling when you look down it, it doesn't really matter if a dry patch doesn't come through looking brand new. as for the bolt and whatnot, I generally just soak it down in oil and wipe it with a shop towel.
I have a Finn that already looks like it was dragged over rocks in the war. Still shoots just under 2 MOA if you shoot 4 shots at a time max, because the forestock is cracked and the barrel touches the wood on the fifth shot
Guns were made to be shot. They were never made for some random guy to keep them in his cabinet as a "piece of history", only to eventually be destroyed in one way or another anyway. A guns life is not measured in years, but in bullets. You can either make sure it lives its life to the fullest, or you can make it find its end beforehand. So shoot it as you like, shoot it some more, replace the barrel if you really like it... eventually, the action will be worn away, the stock will be eroded, and the only thing left to do is give it a rest and sell it for scrap, so the material will find purpose anew.
If you don't let it rust, scratch it, and you actually clean it after shooting corrosive stuff, you don't have to worry. Just replace worn out springs and you are good to go.
Those things are meant to be used.
You bought it to enjoy it, not so it would collect dust.
Don't be like those boomers who tow their convertibles so they won't have high mileage, I was like that and it's no fun.
Just shoot your guns and replace parts, just drive your cars and repair them, enjoy stuff.
I don't feel guilty about it at all. Got a Mosin from 1943 Russian arsenal shoot the crap out of it. And a Winchester made in 1908 with Hex barrel 25-20WCF shoot that too. Guilt is for chumps. Feel no guilt sir.
I've shot pic rel almost every time I went to the range for the past 10+ years. Don't bang it around and take care of it and nothing bad will happen.
I literally do not care
I would imagine it's the same as a car. He will get sad if you keep him locked in a safe or garage for eternity. You should use them and treat them well
I put a synthetic stock on my mosin, that ablated all my guilt forever.
The spirit of the gun tells me that it is happy being used again, so I don't feel guilt by wearing it down.
>How do you guys get over the guilt of shooting and applying wear and tear antique firearms?
They would be lumps of rust or cut into pieces if not for me. Shooting a gun that has already been shot with a safe light load does not do it much harm OP. Using an antique handdrill to drill a hole does not either. Museums where I am Don't give a shit about guns or military history.
just shoot it and enjoy. wear items like springs are easily replaced. always clean right afterward if using corrosive, otherwise it's not super urgent
I personally don't understand how people can not use their weapons.
"You deny your weapon its purpose. It yearns to bathe in the blood of your enemies, but you hold it back."
cringe ass gay
A gun wearing out because it was shot is not sad.
A gun wasting away as a collectible is sad.
Shoot the gun until it can't be anymore. Give it the life it deserves.
Nothing lasts forever anon. It's not a matter of if the gun will be damaged/destroyed, only when. As long as you keep it in good enough condition as to be properly identified you shouldn't feel guilty about shooting it. After all, that's what it was made for.
It is a weapon's purpose to be used. Honestly I feel worse about leaving my guns in the safe and not shooting very often.
Use it responsibly. Shoot and clean as you will.
Its purpose was to spit hot lead. Show respect. Don't load it with overpressured rounds or screw tacticool shit onto it, but let the machine fulfill its purpose.