How do you break the stalemate in France in 1915-17?

Could the Germans have done anything differently?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably just don't be so German about foreign policy and shoot Albert von Schlieffen before he gets any ideas. You'd either have better bedfellows, or at least not as many people who would elect to shoot at you instead of trade with you.
    If we're mid-war that might be a problem, but Germany only having Austro-Hungary as a reliable ally to fight even just France, Russia and Serbia (so if they were a bit more diplomatic and kept the conflict just to direct allies) would be a bit of a tall task in and of itself. With all the opposition they had by even 1916 would probably make the entire thing a foregone conclusion.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Probably just don't be so German about foreign policy and shoot Albert von Schlieffen before he gets any ideas
      The Kaisers autism in the lead up to the great war basically doomed Germany, along with over ambitious German generals. the irony is that they thought the Russians would be a challenge and not the French/UK.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Call in the Yanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How did the US-German relations get so bad? I know the Zimmerman telegram fuck up but other than that? I would think the massive German-American population would've been influential

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who would have thought that unrestricted submarine warfare would piss everyone off who exports a lot of goods.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe don't invent armed merchant vessels that are designed to blast unsuspecting sub crews trying to engage in naval warfare properly. You're not allowed to cry no fair after playing dirty

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The brits were smart. Q-ships only piss off Germany.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not really sure honestly. However as an American I think it's perhaps the greatest tragedy of History that Britain chose to ally with France instead of Germany. If the Bongs and the Germs had allied, then we Yanks would've still joined the Bong side (Ganglosphere) and annihilated the French scurge from Europe once and for all.
        Just picture it: the Frog territories are divvied up between Britain& Germany, the French language dies out, we never have WW2, never have Vietnam. A true utopia

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How did the US-German relations get so bad?
        Anglo dominated media, Germans being terrible at PR, the Kaisers various diplo blunders etc.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a lot of the Germans in the USA moved there before Germany united or from the parts of Germany that got the short end of the stick/didn't like unification/didn't like the Prussians

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wilson was a massive anglophile. The scenes out of Belgium made it super easy for the media to stir up anti german sentiment. American trade with England was far more profitable than with Germany. German interests in SE Asia could potentially conflict with American ones.
        >Zimmerman telegram
        Huge diplomatic blunder. The Mexicans had experienced getting their teeth kicked in every single time America had gotten involved, were just getting past a revolution (which included the US just straight up occupying Veracruz) and were in no position or mood to do anything.
        >Unrestricted submarine warfare
        Another huge diplomatic mistake, but german naval ambitions always were. Had to try something.
        >Not just kicking Austria in the head for being complete retards
        Biggest mistake of them all. When your ally acts like a complete fucktard (IE the entire history of the Hapsburg dynasty) you don't dive headlong in to help them out.

        German history after Bismarck has been one gigantic diplomatic and policy blunder after another.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >German history after Bismarck has been one gigantic diplomatic and policy blunder after another.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than the Zimmerman telegram, Lusitania, etc., the biggest factor was that American creditors had a lot riding on an Entente victory.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only by pursuing peace before the war and simply doing a 180 and marching back to Germany proper.

    Imagine being so dumb as to start a war with the countries you import food from because you can’t grow enough to feed your own people.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They almost did it with gas, but they wasted the initiative. If they figured out a way to create mobile supply lines/refreshed soldiers/actually pick a strategic objective, then they could have done it with the battle of the bulge (granted that is the exact opposite of what they did).

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's incredible how pointless WW1 really was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends where you were. It collapsed the Russian and Austro-Hungarian Empires but from a British/French/American veiw very little changed on the Western front.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Could the Germans have done anything differently?

    not joining this war, staying neutral and selling guns to all sides may have been the smartest move

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Invent tanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What would you build or fuel those tanks with?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every major country in Europe if they had the foresight to see 2023 would have marched on Belgrade and exterminated the Serbian people from reality, then march eastwards until they reach the Pacific.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AH was right about serbians
      >blame the frogs, as usual

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1915
    >"Dont go to war!"
    You niggas retarded.

    Only way Germany could win is to have gone 100% defensive in order to get a good K/D

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Design even cooler uniforms for stormtroopers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kino

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I order the top minds of Germany to design and build a very large torpedo that will be slipped up the Thames to explode the whole of London. Trust ze wunderwaffe.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the best option the Germans had once the war had started and settled into trench warfare (does anyone even care about the initial campaigns in 1914). Would have been to handle the introduction of gas weapons better.
    Failing to exploit it fast after introduction only increased the suffering and didn't give them an advantage.
    Take a regiment from each of the divisions you are going to use in the offensive. Provide them with protective equipment and train them in how to move trough/fight in the gas you are going to use.
    Stockpile a lot of the gas you are going to use.
    hit them hard, follow up closely with the gas ready regiment to open up and then follow up with the other regiments.
    If at all possible do so at several points on the front to force the allies to deal with several breaches at the same time.
    and then hope you can act on one of the breaches to return to mobile warfare and that it goes well.
    Alternately, don't use gas in the west and use it purely and constantly on the russians. The russians aren't going to be able to do the same and you can hope that the brits and french won't start using gas in the west in fear you will use it on them as well.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Copy the Brusilov Offensive as it happens to Paris and force the Frenchies to surrender and storm through the East with armoured cars.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they'd held off on reviving submarine warfare for just a few months that could have dramatically shifted the balance going into 1918. In a broader sense, one of Germany's fatal flaws was thinking exclusively in military terms and disregarding other factors, especially political ones. Harsh treatment of Belgium riled up people after the initial invasion, reviving submarine warfare and antagonising America, then the Zimmerman telegram making American entry into the war a self fulfilling prophecy, and a refusal for good faith negotiations or even offering the restoration of Belgium until defeat was inevitable. Of course a Germany capable of such political considerations may not have begun the war in the first place.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (me)
      Clarifying, I'm not doing the Versailles meme of "It's all Germany's fault", but stuff like the blank check and refusing any mediations, not to mention actively declaring war on France/Belgium certainly contributed to the scope of the war.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Show them Europe in 2023 and get white people to stop killing each other.

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