How different is .38 Special to .38 Colt?
If it isn't a SIGNIFICANT improvement, then why even carry it? Three shots to the chest weren't enough to kill even with 1905 medicine.
How different is .38 Special to .38 Colt? If it isn't a SIGNIFICANT improvement, then why even carry it?
>shot in each lung
This is why I make my woman carry +P hollow points in her revolver.
>1905
>+P
would be lucky if it was smokeless.
Pistol rounds suck but .38 +P is a significant improvement. So much so that revolvers from that period will crack after firing them repeatedly.
.38 Special is a lengthened .38 Long Colt case. Generally it's okay to shoot standard-pressure .38 Special in a gun originally chambered in .38 Long Colt, but generally the cylinders will not accommodate the longer cartridge. My Colt New Army will only chamber .38 special wadcutters
>Three shots to the chest weren't enough to kill even with 1905 medicine.
And having a 93000 grain 1.25" projectile showed right through the head by a rock blasting charge wasn't enough to kill even with 1848 medicine. So either you start carrying a 40mm AA gun, or you stop being retarded and realize that one example of someone surviving tells you basically nothing about how lethal a handgun is.
That’s all folks pack it up!
>Phineas Gage
I'd never seen a photo before of the tamping rod that passed through his brain. Holy fucking shit. That entire spike passed through his head at the speed of a bullet.
He lived, yeah, but the boy was never right again, either. He became quite the specimen for psychiatrists and other scientists of the day studying how the brain worked. Even with missing and disconnected parts.
Cool photo, anon. Thanks.
He mostly recovered. He was an absolute mess right after the incident, and he started having epileptic fits before his death, but inbetween he seems to have been fine. He had a job, and the doctors that actually examined him during that time didn't report any obvious mental problems.
Significant. There is some disparity in .38 special loadings but some were .357 magnum lite, the hottest .38 special loads created .357. At some point they came up with .38 special +P as what loads people actually were using (+P) were unsafe to shoot in cheap shitty revolvers.
Can I shoot you with it? You'll be fine right? Right?
I'll be fine if you slap me in the face but I wont let you.
I wouldn't let you shoot me with a pellet gun.
Doesn't mean it's a good self-defense choice.
Why wouldn't you let me shoot you with one?
Will you let me kick you in the nads? Dumbass.
He's just mad because he started a flame thread about revolvers but didn't actually know anything about ammo.
I didn't start anything.
I just hate the "you wouldn't let me shoot you with a .22" argument.
>Oh yeah? Can I shoot you with it then?
>So, your life is only worth [however much you carry gun cost]?
This is why I carry a gold plated, ivory grip .25 ACP Colt hammerless
It would be very painful.
>1905 Philippines
Yeah I think there's a good reason why a fucking handgun didn't put the drugged up berserker down immediately.
>down immediately.
It didn't put him down at all, speed reader. He's fucking alive in the photograph.
That really doesn't alter what I said in significant fashion. You want to stop a crackhead, you don't use a pistol. You're not the main character of the universe, use a fucking rifle son.
One is a shoulder shot, and the other two are not to the thoracic vitals. And probably weak FMJ that ice-picked through.
>One is a shoulder shot,
That goes down through the chest, speed reader. It goes in the left shoulder and comes out in the lower back near the spine.
The officers were armed with Glock 22's and SPEER 180 gr. Gold Dot Hollow Points.
Officers fired on the subject and hit him in the left arm, completely shattering the bone.
He was also hit five times in the chest and abdomen.
All rounds penetrated less than 1". All of the rounds expanded fully but did not cause incapacitation due to the lack of penetration.
According to the Medical Examiner, none of the rounds caused any life threatening injuries.
The subject also received one round into the front of his throat, it penetrated less than 1" as well.
The Medical Examiner stated that the recovered rounds were in pristine condition (still had rifling marks on them).
The subject was wearing a down jacket at the time of the incident.
He was finally taken down after receiving rounds from an M-4 .223, with Hornady Tap 55 gr ballistic tip rounds and Hornady Tap 72 gr. Hollow Points.
The officer with the M-4 was able to shoot underneath a vehicle and hit the suspect in the ankle.
The officer then flanked the subject, who continued to engage officers, and was eventually killed by the officer with the M-4.
The subject had a trace amount of marijuana in his system.
Subject received approximately sixteen .223 rounds, thirteen of these rounds went completely through.
One round struck his hip and completely shattered it.
Another .223 round struck his aorta and another pierced and collapsed his lung. Both of these rounds lodged themselves inside the subject.
The Medical Examiner stated that the .223 rounds caused massive internal damage.
>The subject had a trace amount of marijuana in his system.
See, that's what it does. Turns you into an unstoppable supersoldier, at the cost of your humanity.
>making decisions looking only at a one in a million case
General rule for pistol rounds is that they incapacitate after 2 hits on average, get something with decent capacity and practice with it until you can reasonably expect to quickly score 3-4 hits on an attacker.
>How different is .38 Special to .38 Colt?
If it isn't a SIGNIFICANT improvement, then why even carry it? Three shots to the chest weren't enough to kill even with 1905 medicine.
.38 special is vastly superior to .38 colt. Read a book sometime and learn your history.
In 1905, that would not have been .38 Special.
The .38 the Army issued at the time would have been the .38 long Colt, which is noticeably tamer.
Not that a .38 Special would have been much better, given the loads offered at the time.