How come always SpecOps is always fighting some bums and not some elite troops?

I am yet to see a single head to head against 2 highly trained operatives. Usually it is one side dabbing on the bums on the opposing side of the trenches.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >war is only won if you fight fair and honest
    This meme needs to be put out of its misery.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >My "special" units are so shit and overly expensive they have to be used like a glass cannon, nooo the masturbator/diaper in the armour mkgay broke, we are OUT OF ACTION for 2 weeks
      army units exist and are organized to work effectbely, if your unit doesn't include the necessary shit you need to be effective but spends money on frivilious shit and hopes to cooperate(suck off) other units every time its used, then your unit is shit will be combat innefective the moment its needed unless there is a shitload of equipment and reserves lying around
      Krauts ost barbarossa like this
      This is also why the american glass canon army of ww2 immediately got its ass handed over to it in korea when they couldn't just industrially overpower their enemies and ~~*((lost*~~)) vietnam, US Army wasn't perfect back in ww2 and it isn't perfect now, macnamaras standardization of the navy chair force and the army chair force didn't go far enough(bombers are not an chair force unit but a missile command unit)
      Infantry divisions should have tanks, planes&drones, mortars for days,arrillery for hours and heavy mgs/autocanons on mobile platforms unless on an offensive

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >SOF should be able to function like regular infantry or theyre shit
        Quit pretending you hold this opinion, not even Indians believe this. If you have skilled specialists, you commit them where their advanced skillsets will make a difference, which categorically does not involve getting in frivolous engagements. Russians did what you're advocating, rolled their remaining SOF into regular units to act is experienced NCOs, and now they don't have SOF.
        >muh glass cannon
        Regular infantry do not have more hit points, but they are more replaceable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense, I guess I am just overexposed to how Russians use their special forces AKA more elite shock troops which leads to them getting lit up on constant basis.

          Pic related, spetznaz squad that was sent to assist in the taking of Grozny. They got commanded by onfield general to load up into BMPs and roll up to the Dudyev palace. Their officer refused stating that their unit is not made for such operations and that it would be inefficient use of manpower and allocation of tactical resources. The general flipped out accused them of being traitors and cowards, promised to court martial them. They reluctantly loaded up into BMPs. The first third of the squad (including commanding officer) got taken out from a rpg hit. 2nd third perished in subsequent firefight. Only 2 dudes from this photo made it out of alive from the first hours of the Grozny siege and 1st Chechen war.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >SOF are glorified recon
          No, SoF can also be shock troops but i prefer the shock part done from far away and immediately hence firepower
          >Regular infantry units have baseline HP in reserve
          >SOF units have less HP in reserve
          >????
          >SOF aren't glass canons
          You literally spelled out out loud what i was saying anon
          It seems to me you are a chair force sex toy who advocates for specialization(corruption for the chair force) while i advocate the organic inclusion of vast firepower into the army like previously with helicopters and drones
          >Inb4 you need intel
          Recon in force and the drones with buggy recces should do in my opinion, US won its wars by running away from first contact and bombing the enemy, not analyzing the enemy and then CQCing them like morons from 300 meters
          >TLDR;
          Infantry should be allowed to blow shit up again, this shit is fricking gay

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The point of spec ops is to conduct specialized operations that normal infantry cannot do. Which consists of supply run hits and sabotaging. Along with other high speed stuff

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why send expensive valuable guys to fight expensive valuable guys when you can just burn down the forest or bomb the building they're in or just send a horde of normal guys to out number the special needs people once you find their location. Real life isn't ace combat. If something's a threat saturate the area with explosives until it isn't a threat. Special forces are for specific fine detail things like infiltration to destroy air defenses or something.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The number #1 rule of winning a fight is to not fight fair.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"how i spent this summer"
    >feb, 2024
    huh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      clearly ment for the last year

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's actually some pretty good bushwhacking from the Russians. I guess not every mobik with a camera is a Chechen or suicidenik.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      even a broken clock is right twice a day

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you find yourself in a fair fight then you have fricked up badly somewhere.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in an unfair fight elite soldiers like SAS are extremely effective.

    in a fair fight they are a huge waste of resources.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >crybar

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone thing SOF are super soldiers? A better comparison for infantry plus would probably be the ranger regiment. It's not like SOF finds a 25th hour in the day to train, both SOF and regular infantry train all day every day. What makes special forces special is their ability to conduct extremely targeted missions, usually with the element of surprise, away from the front. If you put delta force (or god forbid a navy seal) into a normal infantry unit, they would perform similar, if not worse, than conventional infantry because they are out of practice. This is evident every time SOF gets forced into a more conventional infantry engagement - they get wiped and generally embarrass the shit out of themselves. One example is the Battle of Takur Ghar, where navy seals called for a chinook to land in the dead middle of an active gunfight which had the results one might expect. The prelude and aftermath to this decision were also moronic, but It is debated if this came down to a failing of leadership or of communications, but in either case it outlines a critical failing that SOCOM had in basic infantry skills. SOF makes for good operators but terrible infantry, and an army made of SOCOM would probably perform worse than regular infantry.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SOF aren't shock troops. They are supposed to be people who are physically and mentally capable of getting into a particular area, doing a specific job, and get out.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I am yet to see
    You're more than forty years late

    The SAS and the Argentinian special forces group went head to head in the field in 1982

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This the one where they murder a bunch of forestry workers?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This video would be cool if they didn't put that obnoxious Hollywood music over it. Why do Russians have to ruin everything?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Idk if we do it because SOF in the US are a whole different branch with a huge amount of mission creep, but certainly a lot of euro countries consider their SOF to be light reconnaissance infantry. If you stop thinking of them as elite infantry and consider them what they, are which is light infantry, it makes more sense why you wouldn't pit them against an alert motorized or mechanized threat. Furthermore, if SOF are doing their jobs properly, they shouldn't ever meet because both sides will be fighting asymmetrically and attacking conventional targets.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't White people use leaf suit??

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spec ops deliberately avoids elite troops. In fact, commandos in general avoid conflict until they're at their objective.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have seen combat footage of western volunteer spec ops fighting spetsnaz in several donuts.

    8 hours of suppressive fire and taking potshots at each other more or less. Western side got out without casualties, dunno about spetsnaz.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have to imagine if 2 elite units encountered each other they would each do a threat assessment and one would probably decide to quickly break contact if they thought they were compromised.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because cawdoody is bullshit and your squeaker ass needs to be at least 18 to post here.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So is a tank.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why are small detachments of specialized skirmishers not engaging in open protracted firefights behind enemy lines?
    You tell me, Anon.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn thats a lot of dead ukies

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Russians tried that at the start. Their "special forces" got wiped out by basic trained Ukrainians. Then got rekt in most operations they partook in. Now their "elite" units play hide and seek like in these videos. They have adapted because they realised they their fighting techniques left a lot to be desired. Some would call what they do cowardly, but otherwise they would be more meat to the slaughter so you sort of have to praise them for not being like the other hundreds of thousands of dead russians.

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