How can Russia hold Kherson against the weapon HIMARS?

They seem to be having trouble.

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-desperately-attempting-cling-kherson-141700226.html

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re taking out all their ammo depots, followed by bridges and rail arteries.
    Cutting off the Ingulets is also smart.
    Ukraine needs to start adding pressure, there’s a danger of overcaution where Russia just pulls forces and uses them to reinforce Melitipol (which would be harder than just smashing the entire kherson force)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the Russians bunch up too many battered, scared troops in one city they run the risk of mass revolt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pull out of Kherson
      >now the Kerch bridge and the Mariupol railroad network are exposed
      >cutting off Russian supply lines even further
      >"Good work, Comrade General, kindly report to Lubyanka."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a true Catch-22 for Russia.

        >If they weaken the East Front too much, Ukrainians might break through
        >If they commit too much to Kherson, they might all get trapped there

        It's just bad for Russia all around.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >everything is sad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Putin's pride and ego condemns the Russians to defend a city they really should just evac from. Even the Ukrainians at the twin cities had the good sense to NOT let the Russians surround them completely.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yea what they really need to be doing now is negotiating a peace deal, taking a few strips of land in the dombas, claiming victory, and getting the hell out, before the big shipments of lend lease weaponry arrives in the autumn.
              Going on past this point is a terrible folly and a shameful pride. I thought last week Putin was starting to grope his way out of this morass with the grain deal.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yea what they really need to be doing now is negotiating a peace deal

                [...]

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem unfortunately is that Putin's instinct is to Double-Down. His entire image is based on Macho Man Viciousness, to the point he carved up his own face to make himself MORE vicious-looking.

                Now Russia has declared their goal is once again REGIME CHANGE.

                I really suspect the High Command has zero real idea of the fucking reality on the ground, beyond just surface details.

                https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2022/07/24/lavrov-confirms-moscows-plans-for-regime-change-in-ukraine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course, we can all see where this ends. Russia's military attempts to try to carry out this goal of conquering the whole country when they can barely take fucking Donbas....and Ukraine gradually gets the upper hand.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what a revolting gypsy that man is, sheesh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Putin doesn't seem to grasp you should only Double-Down on their goals when you have the fucking advantage.

                Which is why I push for the destruction of all Russian locomotives; all Russian supply convoys to be IED'ed, ambushed, and otherwise blown to hell; all officers targeted; all command systems ruined; all communications disabled; all Russian logistical supply points hit; and for Ukraine's own logistics to be dramatically strengthened by Western vehicles.

                Hammer the Russian ability to actually FIGHT, period, and you win the war. Break the gears of the Russian Murder Machine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TLDR: I believe in fighting if you can win, and the most surefire way to defeat an enemy is to cripple his ability to supply and control his forces.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, I dunno. There's no war in Russian history where the Russians didn't lose 500,000 soldiers before they sued for peace. 75,000 soldiers is like one sixth of that initial threshold.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Based Charlie Magne Poster

          >wreck the hohols on the eastern front
          >wreck the hohols on the western front
          yeah, it's a real conundrum. not sure how you get "bad for russia" out of that though. perhaps you need a new reading prescription? or perhaps you forgot to take off your hopium goggles again?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still ignoring the fact that artillery fire is down by 75%
            So when does the wrecking happen? So far I see the Russians pontooning again due to lack of bridge.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Without artillery superiority, the Russians are truly fucked.

              We should double-down and supply Ukraine with ALL the Logistics it needs to fight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russians are advancing steadily in Donbass, Avdika and Bakhmut are on the verge of falling. I was talking about this last night with some other anons, HIMARS prevented thw Ukrainians from losing entirely but the West needs to step up massively in terms of what they're giving. The Ukrainians desperately need logistics stuff like humvees and trucks, not just powerful weapons (though that we havent given them atacms yet isna tragedy, I hope Jake Sullivan loses his job).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I fully support Ukraine getting way more Logistical vehicles. It baffles me how little we've sent to Ukraine on that front.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What would be the fastest way for us to send Oshkosh trucks and HMVES and M939 5 tons? Are they even reliable enough to send? Would we be better of sending used old Peterbilts instead? Goddamn, just sending logistics shit to Ukraine is such a massive fucking pain

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hell even Civvie vehicles could probably do in the rear-guard areas.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats what I meant by sending them old Peterbilt 18 wheelers. There are thousands upon thousands of those fuckers with old cummins engines in them that would be so much easier to work on than Oshkoshes and 6x6 M939s. They would require intact roads, but I dont think thats been a problem thus far.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why doesn't Europe step up to bat? They've got plenty of supply vehicles they could send.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because Euros are subhuman retards that wouldnt lift a finger for their fellow Euros if push came to shove.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Poland and Estonia both have. The UK as well. Lithuania has, to my knowledge, provided a lot of personnel.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then the High Command panics over Kherson and orders them to send reinforcements to the South, fucking up the East's momentum.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good. Maybe then the railway to Belgorod can be fucked.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Based Charlie Magne Poster

                >the West needs to step up massively
                so you're saying they need to double down on a strategy that has failed every time they've tried it before? that's a really amazing strategy, so amazing that they'll almost certainly do it. nothing breeds success like repeated failures.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they need to double down on a strategy that has failed every time they've tried it before?
                Are you talking about the Russians now?
                >inb4 my landgrab
                75K Russians died for it. That's a drop in the bucket for you, I know - but we also know that the Ukrainians have already stated they will not give up and continue fighting until the borders of 2014 are restored, and if that means WW3 they'll accept it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't even stop the HIMARS strikes, lol.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Based Charlie Magne Poster

              why bother swatting at mere flies? they aren't even hitting anything of importance anymore now that russia has dispersed her ammunition depots and gone to a more just-in-time logistics scheme.

              Without artillery superiority, the Russians are truly fucked.

              We should double-down and supply Ukraine with ALL the Logistics it needs to fight.

              zelinsky ordered a general retreat from donetsk oblast last night, hohol. i suspect - and this is just a wild guess mind you - that the russians will gladly take all of that "truly fucked" the ukrainians are able to handle and then some.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why bother swatting at mere flies? they aren't even hitting anything of importance anymore now that russia has dispersed her ammunition depots and gone to a more just-in-time logistics scheme.
                Only that they're really failing at that, which is the reason for the 75% drop in artillery fire. And no one is surprised, considering that the Russians do not have enough trucks:
                https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/

                But I already know that you're a miserable shitposter who'll ignore my post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just-in-time logistics scheme
                Their logistics is so shit their fighting vehicles are having to drive straight to railway stations to get ammo and fuel.
                >general retreat from donetsk
                He ordered civilian evacuations. I know this is hard for you to understand, orcs think that every living person is an enemy combatant that needs to be raped, tortured and shot, but generally people who care about other people tell them to get out of the way when a fucking war is happening.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there’s a danger of overcaution where Russia just pulls forces
      Not with those bridges, they're going to pull a lot of infantry without equipment.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, I'm just waiting for this series of bulletins:
        >Russia pulls out forces over compromised bridges
        >Bridges to Kherson collapse
        >Russia pulls out forces over collapsed bridges
        >Ukrainian forces strike at retreating Russian forces over collapsed bridges

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Russians are so going to try to run the compromised bridges WITH the heavy equipment.

          Most likely the High Command will directly order the junior officers to do it, over their objections. I have no doubt the officers on the fucking ground KNOW the bridges aren't safe. But the High Command will threaten their families and they'll comply. The Russians will try to cross the bridges, they'll collapse, then the Ukrainians will begin blasting the fleeing Russians as they try to cross the river in hastily erected pontoons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a real shame Ukraine's air force is in shambles. A disorganized withdrawal is the perfect time to inflict enormous casualties.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine got a ton of spare parts from soviet bloc countries that retired old airframes.
        I think it was reported Germany, Poland, and Slovakia sent parts for Mig-29s, bringing the fleet back to performing their maximum of 50-60 sorties/day.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remains to be seen, they moved huge reinforcements there lately. It looks that they either want to keep it at all cost, or even attack towards mykolaiv

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine knows where Russia is going to be now. One nice potential spot.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn. Yet in one month's time Kherson will still be in Russian hands, and yet more of the Donetsk region will be gone. How does it keep happening PrepHoleommandoes? Our intelligence is saying the Russians have lost 75,000+ men, yet they keep advancing? How will we PrepHoleope?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Severodonetsk was a MONTH ago, Vatnik.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Mandic

    Current information...

    Let's start with something pleasant.

    In the Izyum direction, advanced units of the Defense Forces of Ukraine not only stopped the enemy's advance north-west, north and north-east of Slovyansk, but also forced him to retreat in some places. Where, how and when.... of course, I will not write for obvious reasons, but I will say that the situation in this area, recently, at the tactical level, is quite "interesting" for the enemy. His most powerful grouping of troops, aimed at the Slavyanskyi fortified area of the Defense Forces of Ukraine, judging by everything, has already "regrouped" to the point that its individual advanced units may very well be completely defeated in the near future... Moreover, this is not an exaggeration.

    We will talk in more detail about the situation in the Izyum direction another time, but one thing can be said for it for sure right now - during the past week, the enemy did not manage to advance even 1 km here. Moreover, he was forced at the tactical level to retreat to a number of plots.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Mandic

      Now, about the South.

      During the last 3 days, according to the BTGr-my of the Russian Airborne Troops (pdv), which ALREADY proceeded to the Kherson-Beryslav bridgehead as part of the "South" group, all road and rail communications of the enemy in the Zaporizhia, Kherson, Donetsk regions, on the peninsula Crimea and in the Rostov region of Russia are now simply "clobbered" by the troops of the armies of the Eastern Front, which are now actively moving to the southern operational zone.

      The bulk of the railway echelons move through Kerch and Dzhankoy to the two main unloading stations for the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia directions, respectively - Brylivka and Sokologhirne...

      On the M-14 road in the direction of Mariupol - Berdyansk - Melitopol - Nova Kakhovka, the columns of the troops of the Ministry of Defense are also standing alone one by one, almost continuously...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Mandic

        The volume and pace of movement of manpower, ATS, material means and items of logistical support is such that communications simply cannot withstand. And their real bandwidth, apparently, simply slows down this whole process, knocking it out of the schedule established by the Russian military command.

        So, for example, the Russian Directorate of the Crimean Bridge was forced to cancel the movement of any civilian trains across the railway bridge for half a day, due to the need to pass through it at the right time and in the right number of military echelons... And this is clearly not a "standard situation". ..

        Thus...

        The grouping of enemy forces, which the Russian military command is currently creating by strategically regrouping its forces and means in the Southern operational zone, from the reserve and other operational zones and directions, is increasingly acquiring sufficiently characteristic features and pronounced, clear outlines and features...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Mandic

          As I predicted, the basis of this grouping will be the troops of the Eastern Military District of the USSR. For example, during the last 2 days, she "slept" here, who would you think? That's right - the 35th combined military army of the Russian Federation, infamous throughout the world for the "bright exploits" of its soldiers near Kiev...

          Yes, these are the same ones... with looted washing machines, screwdrivers, doghouses and women's underwear, which are the FIRST among the Russian military became "famous" around the world for murders, rapes and tortures of the civilian population, looting and robbery. So to speak, very typical representatives of the current Russian "deep" society...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Mandic

            In the number of up to 10-12 BTGrTGr (that is, almost the entire composition of those troops that the 35th "army" was able to field to participate in the so-called "svo"), this gang ALREADY arrived from the composition of the "Izyum" group in the operational rear group "South" (Sofiivka - Gornostaivka - Kryvyi Rih - Voskresenske district). Including, the real "star" of this horde of murderers, executioners, rapists and looters - the 64th separate motorized rifle brigade, known for its "feats" in the Bucha - Irpin - Gostomel triangle.

            In general, in addition to it, battalion-tactical and tactical groups from the 38th MSBR, 69th "Cossack" regiment, 107th RBR, 165th ABR and 71st ZRBR gathered here. They even brought the 82nd Repair and Recovery Battalion and the "Medical Tactical" Group with them...

            • 2 weeks ago
              Mandic

              In addition, it is also worth noting that not only the troops of the 35th ZVA, but also the 5th and 36th Armies of the Russian Armed Forces and part of the 29th ZVA, as well as the entire a number of parts and subdivisions of district subordination with a very characteristic purpose. For example, "old friends" after the offensive on Popasna "restored and re-equipped" BTGr of the 40th and 155th obrmp tof-a, as well as units from the 68th AK and the 104th obr of the district.

              To be honest, today I am not yet ready to unanimously say who will unite "under his scepter" the entire southern operational zone (that is, all 3 directions - Mykolaiv, Kryvorizh and Zaporizhia) - the command structures of the eastern or southern military districts of the Soviet Union. After all, it is obvious that the deployment in the area of responsibility of the southern military district of a grouping of troops, comparable to, or even exceeding, its grouping in terms of volume, will require some kind of "unified commander". Even for the reasons of the elementary need to coordinate actions and establish interaction in the middle of this conglomerate...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Mandic

                However, I can see one thing for sure - if we remember that the units and units of the 49th, 58th ZVA and 22nd AK of the southern district are also deployed here, then today it is quite possible to come to the conclusion that the Russian military command is conducting operational deployment in this zone, perhaps the most powerful operational grouping of its troops since the very moment of the massive invasion of the Russian Federation into Ukraine...

                For me personally, for example, the transfer and use of the 35th general military army of the Eastern Military District of the Soviet Union in this sense , is a kind of marker, an indicator of where exactly the attention of their general staff is focused at the moment... I don't know why, but the "Moscow strategists" feel a certain morbid attraction to this unification of troops...

                Remember, the first offensive on Kyiv, the main direction - it was the 35th Army that was the basis of that grouping of troops that broke through closer to Kyiv. Then a short "recovery" and again the main direction, the very tip - Raisins. And again, the 35th army appears here... moreover, with its appearance, the situation worsened there very significantly. And now - the Kherson steppes are north of the Crimean isthmus...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Mandic

                I don't think that it "happened that way" or "collapsed" by chance.

                Honestly, I don't know... why exactly this army is constantly pushed by the Russian military command in its "main offensives"... Maybe it is somehow specialized, maybe it has some special military personnel who are capable of not only killing, raping and torturing... and to advance effectively and successfully. I don't know...

                I don't know... but during the first phase of the invasion, it was the 35th Army, in comparison with other groups of Russian troops, such as the 1st TA or the 20th ZVA, that demonstrated the highest level of adequacy of perception of the situation and aggressiveness in the offensive. In the same way, the BTGr units were celebrated near Izyum...

                And regarding the fact that "an attack that hangs on three destroyed/semi-destroyed bridges... is impossible"... I suggest you familiarize yourself with the following information.

                In order to ensure the transfer of ADDITIONAL forces and means to the "zone of responsibility" of its troop group operating in the Kryvorizka direction, and after the defeat of the Antoniv bridge by the Defense Forces of Ukraine, the enemy led a pontoon crossing across the Dnipro River in the area of Lviv.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Mandic

                Moreover, at the same time, in the Dar'ivka area, the command of the enemy's troops simply DISMANTLED the pontoon crossing over the Ingulets River, because he managed to RESTORE the bridge nearby by covering the damaged areas with steel plates.

                In turn, on July 28 of this year the enemy, after carrying out engineering works at the Kakhovskaya HPP lock (they covered the road surface with reinforced plates 160 mm thick), continues to throw OVT in the direction of Vesele - west. Shiroka Balka is probably Magical.

                And you continue to believe... that "Saint Hymers" in company with "Saint Excalibur" will stop these hordes...

                Conclusion...

                In the South, the real Darkness is gathering...

                To conduct an effective defense, even if it is operational or operational- the tactical level of all that is TOO MUCH...

                A combination of the 35th, 36th and 5th ZVA of the Eastern Military District and 2 armies (49th and 5th)...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Quick rundown of all these words?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Mandic

                Conclusion...

                In the South, the real Darkness is gathering...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Second from right is zakharchenko whom russians had killed years ago

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                full of shit as ever

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fate of vatnigs in Ukraine is mirroring the fate of serbs in Kosovo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not exactly. A lot of Russian-Ukrainians stayed loyal and they shall be rewarded for it.

                That's the nice thing about occupations. You find out fast who is a traitor and who isn't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a mistranslation, it means they sent their Syrian mercs over there.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Darkies ? Make a change from the slant eyed fuckers russia usually sends I suppose.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Great intel. This confirms what some have been saying regarding Izium movements. Interesting take regarding command structure. I will say this is both troublesome for Ukraine and a great opportunity. Lots of troops having to go through chokepoints previously struck by HIMARS and artillery. We will definitely see some high casualty strikes and may have the first one in the Brylivka Trains Station strike on July 28-29 that just got reported with supposed 40 train cars, 80 dead and 200 wounded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia moves a ton of troops into an area plagued with logistical issues

                Yeah, this is going to go wrong for Russia real fast, lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus man, you really like to write with all of the words. Go start a blog or learn how to make your point using fewer words.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand WHY Russia wants to mass all these troops together when it amplifies their logistical issues. It also makes it that much harder for them to escape if they have to.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LOL those five guys look like they are soldiers from five different armies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clearly the developers of "Goldeneye 2022" added a Random Enemy Generator feature to the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mandic, I have never encountered a writing style on the internet I hate as much as I do yours. It triggers my fight-or-flight response by how confusing and unclear it is.

      In case you did a google translate of someone else's post, fair enough, but in that case you should provide a source.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thing is, i have never seen man dick actually write anything, its always some machine-translated gibberish from some other source.
        Does it even speak english? Or is it some sort of childish statement against the western powers it is making by not writing any?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those chips look undercooked

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the best they could manage for the photoshoot, since most Vkusno places are out of potatoes.
        And half of their products are either rotting McD leftovers or ineptly made immitations that are somehow even worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5k in phones n garden gnomeelry. Shares potatoes. Women.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dismantle all Russian logistical capabilities and command & control. The Russian occupier will slowly collapse without direction or resupply.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people learn of a new weapon acronym
    >omg i LOVE ASSRAAMS!
    >bros dae ASSRAAMS?
    >what happens when russia or china reverse engineers ASSRAAMS?

    shut the fuck up you ignorant newfags. you latch on to any new word like a toddler.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You retarded shill bastard. Russia has had DECADES to reverse engineer these weapon but for some reason has not done it.
      But now you say they can do it quickly if they choose to.
      You are an asshat.
      Now please say China can do it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my point is that this happens every time ukraine gets a new weapon. first it was javelins, then it was NLAWS, then M777, now HIMARS. its nothing but people who have no idea what these things are shouting about them constantly.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia said something about shelling Ukraine and I said "Dude, you have no shells!" and ran away

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia said something about there being no shit in the wagon nor had there ever been any and I said "Dude, you are covered with shit and so are your teeth!" and ran away form the awful smell.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only himars that have had any effect is the one that the hohols used to kill their own forces that were captured so they could false flag about Russia executing them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HIMARS magically castrated a Ukrainian prisoner?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a question: Russia said it already destroyed all HIMARS. How did the destroyed HIMARS destroy the Ukrainian prison?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      russian military railway workers probably aren't eligible for a Lada payout, the sane ones are probably thinking twice about participating

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The trains are a massive weak point in Russia's logistical system. Hit every single locomotive.

        https://i.imgur.com/raZMAhl.png

        full of shit as ever

        I believe the 49th Army currently holds Kherson. Not sure who the Russians are sending there.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eliminating Russian capital equipment for which the vatmorons are experiencing reduced or eliminated production, is a good idea. I recollect a figure showing heavily reduced production of locomotives. Blow those up supplying the invasion of Ukraine eventually become untenable

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All those locomotives must be destroyed. Wipe them off the face of the Earth.

            NO supplies from Russia to Ukraine must be allowed in. Destroy them by insurgent, destroy them by IED, destroy them by HIMARS.

            And the Ukrainians need to demand more Logistical Vehicles. Because THEN they can supply their own offensives with all the ammo and fuel they need to fight.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HIMARS strike destroyed a train of more than 40 cars that arrived from Crimea carrying troops, equipment and ammunition to the Kherson region.
    Fellow Russissies, not like this... I thought they were sending them rusty rockets and broken rifles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      source?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It came to me in a dream.
        https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1553714116702789633

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >only russian shills are actual namefags
    >anons are pro-ukraine
    Yet the FSB assets say its the newfags and redditors who are pro-ukraine, curious...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of those namefags isn't even real, it's just some guy using an anti-russian avatarfag's troll handle. I assume the reason he stopped avatarfagging was because the vatniks ran to the chud-janny and cried gay subhuman tears.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's over. kherson counteroffensive has gone crazy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're moving faster than the Vatniks at least.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Artillery doesn't take territory, infantry does.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they can keep stocking defensive positions with fodder and 1960's armor. they have a pretty good supply of both.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the strategic end-game for Russia in Ukraine?

    To conquer all of Ukraine? To annex Eastern and Southern Ukraine?

    Because it seems like it would be much less expensive for Russia to just consolidate their gains in the east and south of Ukraine than it would to keep on invading the rest of Ukraine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strategic
      >russia
      there is no end game, as far as russia is concerned this war should've ended months ago, now theyre going to slowly bleed out

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently they're still sticking with the original objective of capturing the entire Ukraine. I don't know how the hell they're going to accomplish that.
      https://news.yahoo.com/lavrov-calls-full-regime-change-211140642.html

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They want Novorossiya, so they won't stop until they take Odessa, can link up with Transnistria, and have cut off the Ukrainian dump state from the sea.

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