Drones aren't male, they have no gender, they could be trannies or straight black chuds
The only canon male in the hive are the Praetorians, which is the only variant that never appeared in any films/kino/slop
Drones are the basic bitch ayyys, """less""" aggressive than Warriors (Aliens, Alien: Resurrection) but still exceedingly dangerous
Ayys just molt into whatever the hive requires, the first ayy that popped into Hadley's Hope was a drone who eventually turned into a warrior after it's job of capturing some of the inhabitants as facehugger fodder was complete
According to canon recent 20th Century Fox comics any ayyy can molt into a queen but the most common one is the giant facehugger from Alien 3
The queen from Hadley's Hope molted from a drone according to Newt's audiobook
Any ayyy can transition into any variant as the hive requires it
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Ah thanks. I just remembered how 6(The pc xenomorph from the AvP 2010 game) grew through several diffrent castes, and eventually became the new queen. And the lore blurb said it was due to exposure to engineer goo (The collectible in the game)
They are great. Their only weakness is their poor eyesight, besides that they are pretty fucking amasing. They are also the race with the second longest natural life in the universe (3'rd if you count predaliens as its own seperate species)
In the draft script there's a scene showing it plundering a refrigerator.
Thematically, it's a fucking monster flick. It's supposed to be scary by confounding expectations.
Geigerian monsters are not supposed to be purely scientific, they're intentionally supernatural and attempts to demystify them have always been retarded.
I never understood these things, I guess bullet's don't work on them somehow I'm guessing? What about explosives? Unless it has magic movie monster plot armor, grenades and rockets should do the trick.
Yes, but in this case this is a bit less of a problem for the scene since the tunnel the turrets are in is both underground and on a planet which now has a largely breathable atmosphere.
Bullets work, they're just sneaky and have acid blood. Usually they'll either outflank you and hit you from behind, catch you unaware, or you'll die from acid burns after you shoot them.
It always depends on plot armor. But in the absence of said armor xenomorphs die easy to gunfire. In AVP 2 the citizens of the town that was attacked by the predalien managed to gather in the center of town and we’re successfully fending off the attacking aliens with commonly available small arms, right up until they got nuked.
I thought they were being overrun, and they were all dying with or without the nuke. They just happened to do better than the soldiers since the villagers werent caught by suprise.
In the original it was just acid blood will tear through the entire ship.
But in the lore they're supposed to be sneaky and super fast, shown somewhat better in the newer Alien movies out in the open. They're like zerglings
A 9m might be enough to take down a drone or a chest burster, but the more heavily armoured types like soldiers or praetorians, would take more. For the queen i wouldnt rely on anything that isnt AP
>Alien pops its head up over a counter to surprise you >Is instead surprised by a supersonic nine-meter projectile >The alien is gone, and so is everything else.
I mean, it's not the worst plan.
Going by the first two movies only (cuz I hate the rest), bullets work fine. In the first film they don't have guns and even if they did, bursting the bug would be bad news, since its blood is highly pressurized and highly corrosive, and the Nostromo is a civilian refinery tug. Shotguns work in exposed orifices. Gorman used a pistol in his last stand, but there's nothing to suggest it was very effective. Rifle and machine gun calibers shred them. Flamethrowers don't seem to do much but we never really see someone pin one down and roast it properly.
Ultimately armed guys lost in the second film due to being tremendously outnumbered and bad discipline leading to a half-assed entry into their turf.
>Shotguns work in exposed orifices
It blows through the back of his fucking skull through like half a foot of meat. Putting it in his mouth doesn't matter.
Vasquez holds one against the wall with her foot and shreds it's head with her pistol. The reality is the disconnect from Ridley's space rape horror monster and Cameron's space Charlie means the xenomorph switches between bullet proof bioweapon and endless infestation waves of gnashing bugs depending on what the story needs. The only thing that seems to hold steady is that their true threat is in how fast they reproduce and grow.
Honestly that doesn't seem that unfeasible actually- they adapt to the situation, sort of like tyranids from 40k. If they need lots of weak drones to collect more hosts for the hive and all they're up against are barely armed colonists, that's what they go for (and that's how you get Hadley's Hope). But if there are only few xenomorphs around and/or they're against stiffer resistance, that's when they dedicate more resources to improve solitary units (and that's how you get the drone in Nostromo).
They do keep traits from their host species. Like the increased longevity of a Predator and its
increased size and strength. Or the thinner and faster bodies they get if the host is a dog.
#4 trumps 00 from an energy standpoint. Double aught is much easier to find though, and the difference is pretty negligible at expected engagement distances.
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https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/10%C3%9728mm_Caseless
Apparently the rifles are 10x24, sentries and smart guns are x28
Pic related has a great "Tales of the Gun" style story all about the pulse rifle. Also a great Hicks backstory and one from the POV of the xenomorphs and their methods of communicating and thinking. Recommmended.
they won't attack you in the open dummy it's the most apex predator that ever apex predator'd you're not going to even know it's there before it's 10 feet away a
Man avp1 was so bad. I refuse to believe that a f*moid human can outperform yautja in any way even if they're juvies.
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The predator in Prey gets it's ass handed to it pretty handily by a 5'5" 26 year old woman in hand to hand combat. Seems to unless they're fighting Arnold they kinda suck at fist fights
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I don't remember any 26 year old women in any of the two predator movies that actually fought the predator.
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She didn't outperform him in any way, she stood around crying and gave him his gun, then he carried her the rest of the adventure.
Also calling them Yautja makes you sound like a fag.
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But she was based on a major character from the comics. Who was the only human accepted into a Predator clan.
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The comics suck and no one read them.
There were three predators in the beginning, she certainly outperformed the other two who died almost instantly upon contact with the xenomorph.
That's like saying if I'm a mile away from two tanks that get hit with an airstrike, I outperformed them.
She fought zero, 0, (zero) Aliens unassisted.
Not that predators are unkillable supermen anyway. They've been killed by normal humans many times in the series, including several times in Melee combat, in which they have a massive advantage in reach, strength, and experience. Flukes happen, if they didn't they wouldn't hunt to begin with.
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>She fought zero, 0, (zero) Aliens unassisted.
She killed one with a fucking spear
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An alien that had already been thrown around by the predator, with the predator's magic space spear.
Is Ripley better than a predator because she hit an Alien with a car?
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There were three predators in the beginning, she certainly outperformed the other two who died almost instantly upon contact with the xenomorph.
Be a jannie and start moving the recent surge of /x/ shit back to that containment board. Then send a darkened Caddillac with a couple of gorillas wearing dark glasses and suits to o/p's house to teach him a lesson. Would love to see his expression when he opens the door and has to show up in school the next day with various marks.
>Then send a darkened Caddillac with a couple of gorillas wearing dark glasses and suits to o/p's house to teach him a lesson. Would love to see his expression when he opens the door and has to show up in school the next day with various marks.
You realize sending goons to people's houses is a very bad idea in America, right thirdie?
I would drive over that thing with a fucking Baneblade, reverse, and drive over it again. I wouldn't even waste ammo on it, I would grind it to dust and proceed forward with an entire regiment behind me, the prometheum fumes of our Emperor-blessed steeds doubling the planet's emissions levels as we roll coal over every xenos on the planet.
The Commissar is going to shoot YOU for implying that the mighty BANEBLADE's tracks can be damaged by fulfilling their correct function of running over heretics, a capability they are built specifically for by the finest Martian cogboys.
Acid blood, retard. Everyone knows standard procedure for engaging acid blooded xenos is to dismount and engage them on foot, as to not risk damaging anything valuable.
Maybe in your shit regiment they are that doesn't properly apply the oils of cleansing before and after each engagement because you pissed off the admechs shoving lasgun powerpacks up your own asses. Are you completely unfamiliar with the popular children's song sung at many a schola progenium, "The Treads on the Tank Run Over the Xenos?" This ain't a chimera, pal, those treads are wide enough to run over an entire tau family holding hands and standing abreast. There is not enough blood in that xenos' body to damage THE BANEBLADE's tracks.
>Are you completely unfamiliar with the popular children's song sung at many a schola progenium, "The Treads on the Tank Run Over the Xenos?" This ain't a chimera, pal, those treads are wide enough to run over an entire tau family holding hands and standing abreast. There is not enough blood in that xenos' body to damage THE BANEBLADE's tracks.
Funny, that's the same argument our driver used after he ran through that xenos nest. Didn't stop him from getting *blam*ed
Not in a proper mechanized regiment.Planets that aren't shitholes have them feudal trash.
At least I'm able to go outside and touch grass without growing two extra limbs and a third eye, hive scum.
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I don't believe your regiment even has baneblades. I'm not even sure your regiment has commissars. I don't believe you and your anecdote.
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>Baneblades
We only had the one.
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>His regiment only had one baneblade
Oh no no no feudalbros not like this...
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One baneblade is quite a lot when you're supposed to be a light cavalry unit.
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>light cavalry unit
Third world regiments never change.
That assumes the blood clots, which it might not. Granted, that means it would bleed out from literally any wound it has, but that is besides the point.
I forgot who Burke was.. thought it was the captain/commander who's freaking out as everyone gets smoked
Burke is the SLIMEBAG corporate SHITHEEL lmao
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this homosexual is the WORST
all my homies hate Burke
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>all my homies hate Burke
It's good to be popular.
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That guy would have made a great Paul Bernardo.
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That's Gorman, and in Gorman's defense, he wouldn't have even been there had Burke not pulled strings to get a rookie officer that he knew would defer to him assigned to the mission.
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gorman is inexperienced but not malicious. he at least dies like a man.
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Apone should have overruled Gorman and extracted as soon as he was told about the reactor core.
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He was never told about the reactor core, just told to collect magazines.
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"You always were an asshole"
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"You always were an asshole"
yeah he and Vasquez go out like champs, Burke is an absolute fucking corporate scumbucket they should have iced him in some dark corridor and left him to rot lmao
People who make 40k cannot into IRL tech.
The only serious attempt to stat 40k vehicles was Imperial Armour, which based their stats on WW2 vehicles - Lema Russ has the armour (and engine, LOL) of a Tiger 2, while Baneblade has armour of the Maus.
Personally, I like to think Imperial tank armor is WW2 tier because of how sad the state of their MIC is, but is saved by them being fuckhuge and there being loads of them.
it kinda makes sense, since all the weapons are equally fucking OP in order to deal with the literal-plot-armor tier armor in universe, it basically just evens itself back out and you could just go back to WW2 tier armor mechanics/logic just with way different weapon platforms obviously
People who make 40k cannot into IRL tech.
The only serious attempt to stat 40k vehicles was Imperial Armour, which based their stats on WW2 vehicles - Lema Russ has the armour (and engine, LOL) of a Tiger 2, while Baneblade has armour of the Maus.
>how dare they make stuff in a fantasy game not satisfy my autistic obsessions!
Most of the stories are written from the characters perspectives, so things might be described as bigger if its a guardsman and smaller if its an Astartes.
A lone xeno isn't really that much of a threat if you have a good gun. Provided you are not in a situation where you cannot risk shooting, or cannot risk the acid blood spilling.
Not smarter than humans though.
The movies all rely on the humans being off guard and/or ill equipped. The marines only really lose to them because they are massively outnumbered.
Sad fact: progress made all these action setting irrelevant. Thinking about all these monsters and tactical movies etc. Just send fucking drones to do the scouting and you just chill back. You found enemies? Spam FPV kamikaze drowns against them.
No danger
Mo suspense
No challenge
Just wack a mole game.
Technology of the year 2023 made adventure outdated.
Future is retconed.
You need to read the comic that was originally the sequel to Aliens before Alien III came out and it had to be retconned.
There was an entire team of marines who were androids. Also one of them had sex with Newt.
>aliens start to get smart and start laying organic membranes everywhere to catch the drones >spit acid on them >intentionally sacrifice new drones to dive into the FPV drones and kill themselves >also they live in the most cramped hellholes imaginable have fun navigating a drone inside
Shotgun. You can kill anything with 00 buck or slugs. Shotguns have been protecting farmer Joe Bobs anus and cows from aliens since at least the 1940s.
#4 trumps 00 from an energy standpoint. Double aught is much easier to find though, and the difference is pretty negligible at expected engagement distances.
https://i.imgur.com/arRX7rA.png
where did you get 10x28? I don't put it passed a wiki page to be wrong so..
Neat
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/M42A_Scope_Rifle
The ghillie suit with a heat absorbing internal body suit and temp regulator is a pretty decent idea.
In the AvP universe, 5.56 was enough to kill drones and the warriors, barring plot armor. Praetorians and the Queen had thicker carapace, so it would require higher calibers, close to .50 bmg. Some of the more exotic variations of the xenomorph, like the Crusher, would not be susceptible to small arms, and would probably require some form of high explosive, rpg, or a tank.
I don't recall any instance where we actually see the Predalien get shot, but predators aren't bulletproof.
Maybe more bullet resistant than normal flesh, but we haven't seen one resist a single bullet of any caliber without bleeding. In predator two the predator was shot with a shotgun, firing either buckshot or a lead slug, in other words the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of armor penetration.
While that's never made a whole lot of sense considering the shape and the fact that it has to be made out of the same shit as the rest of the xenomorph (not to mention the jaw visibly doesn't move fast enough, or create enough inertia, to punch through but when has a movie ever given a shit about that), that's also difficult to quantify. After all, 5.56 will punch straight through a modern ballistic helmet.
Were also talking about a xenomorph queen that was imprisoned in a tomb for thousands of years. It was old, weak, and should not have been pulled under the water by a water tower.
>It was weak
No proof of that, if anything it was more quick and lively than the other one. Also no proof it's exoskeleton would be weaker even IF it's muscles were.
>It should not have been pulled under the water by an object larger and heavier than itself yanking on a chain connected to it at an awkward angle
Why? Because of your feelings and dreams?
The queen not being able to easily lift a ten foot forklift bot was a major plot point in the only other portrayal of the queen on screen.
I think it's probably the teeth that are like some nonsensical level of hardness so they can basically eat through anything in their way, even the Xenomorphs main mouth has teeth that look like they're made of a different organic material, like it's fuckin titanium
pretty sure the M41A pulse rifle ammo produces wounding effects you would expect to see from something like a GPMG or HMG.. so idk what anon is talking about. You could probably kill a Queen with enough dudes shooting the piss out of it with explosive small arm ammunition it just wouldn't be very efficient
also consider it like a giant biological tank, it will have areas that are way thicker like the head plate, but joints and stuff like that will likely be much thinner and easy to penetrate with """small"" arms
>pretty sure the M41A pulse rifle ammo produces wounding effects you would expect to see from something like a GPMG or HMG
Trying to compare armor penetration by comparing terminal effects against non armor materials is not going to go anywhere useful. You can have effects like an order of magnitude apart just from picking a different bullet in the same caliber.
It sorta gets on my nerves when I see people complain that they should have cast a "real latina" for the role of Vasquez. That actress nailed that role. Al Pacino isn't really Cuban either, Sylvester Stallone isn't a war vet, and Lance Henriksen isn't really an android; it's acting, their whole job is to pretend they're something they aren't. Muh authenticity is a stupid political meme and only drags down the medium.
>Muh authenticity is a stupid political meme >Its antisemitism to suggest israelites cannot play any role of any race, but every white person should be replaced.
It's because of a recent change in SAG rules saying a role has to be played by someone who shares at least some of the ethnicity of the character. Want to know why so many adaptations now have new characters that weren't in the original work and tend to be played by black actors? That's why, it's to get around that rule.
Note this only applies in the US, in the UK it's held that the whole point of ACTING is to play someone other than yourself.
kliener kept lamar around for a reason, he was up to some dirty ass shit having that fucker debeaked.
reminds me of that one green about forcing a squid to suck your dick as a means of it to survive.
if it's a sight you don't care about (like you are retaking earth after the earth war) I would scatter pigs hooked up with heart monitors and wearing bomb belts, bigger boom the better, they'll get grabbed and cocooned and then the baby comes out the hive explodes into glorious fury. if you need to retake a place of significant value you setup outside of it, using sentry guns to create a killing field, something simple like an audio system and either penal troopers or more animals can be used as the bait. also suicide vest equipped as the pigs, just with something like a single hand grenade for explosive yield. deny them their advantages by never going into their tunnels or nests, draw them out with enticing hosts into prepared killing fields staffed by machines so you don't lose valuable troopers. once that stops working and they no longer come out from the music and hosts you get free reign to operate on the surface and you can start using ground penetrating radar to try and locate the nests, once you find them you simply collapse them using explosives from the surface. you can do a similar thing to any kind of space installation you want too, although it will require more hardware (specifically some kind of big open platform you can dock to said installation, pop the airlock doors, ring the dinner bell and destroy them as they enter open space.
I'd be concerned about people running into eggs for generations to come. I think those things can persist for extremely long periods of time until something triggers them. Like the "little kids stepping on ancient landmines" problem on steroids since any missing person might end up being patient 0 for a new outbreak of xenomorphs.
once you have drawn out as many drones and warriors as you can you can begin normal cleaning operations as per aliens. but again if possible I would throw a whole zoo into the hole first so you can trigger all the eggs, ambushes and other dastardly shit they keep coming up with in their holes. a facehugger isn't very scary sitting happily on the muzzle on fido.
>1 of them
M41A Pulse Rifle a shitton of situational awareness and common sense >more than 1
An entire squad armed with M41A Pulse Rifles with attachments, a shitton of situational awareness and common sense >100
Escape the fuck away, make sure none have hidden themselves inside or outside the ship >1000+
Escape far away on another galaxy, make sure none have hidden themselves inside or outside the ship, every other human gets shot in case they're carriers
What about directed energy weapons like lasers or the active denial system?
The ADS could be used to keep them from entering certain areas and funneling them into a kill box. The lasers could be used to engage them from a distance, as well as used on egg fields to rapidly go from one egg to the next, cooking each one inside.
In the comics the ayys got initially beat through conventional warfare and standard hive clearing tactics until they quickly adapted to just have multiple smaller hives and one-off nests that the humans can't find.
Eventually the humans lost because they got overwhelmed by drones borne out of livestock and lesser animals.
they also hide in the jungles of south america to start things of with (brazil if memory serves), and have the help of a alien worshiping cult to spread the infection.
I thinkbthat's the plot of the most recent game too. Shit's fucked on the planet you crash on because a good portion of the population worship these things, and is actively undermining the local government.
anon they basically live in a spacesuit, it's hermetically sealed and I think they can probably like filter it out or something through their exoskeleton
it's why when they get hit by bullets and shit they violently explode, they're under internal hydraulic pressure like a spider
>it's hermetically sealed
nagger their mouths open. Explain how it stays sealed when that happens. >they explode
Movie special effects embellishment. Nothing more
>nagger their mouths open. Explain how it stays sealed when that happens.
membranes inside their esophagus? just because they have a mouth doesn't mean it's perfectly open to the air, I don't even think they breathe through it we just see them exhale hot vapor >Movie special effects embellishment. Nothing more
oh yeah it had nothing to do with them getting shot by explosive ammo meant to penetrate body armor.. even people can explode into gooey bits like that but we're not florescent green
I vaguely recall a deleted scene in one of the movies, where they were eating a corpse. But iirc then the corpses are usually used for biomass in their hives.
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Speaking of deleted scenes, the ovomorph scene was pretty interesting too. It always made sense to me that if there were only a single drone present it'd be able to kickstart an entire hive if left alone long enough. Having a queen churn out facehuggers is obviously more efficient but what if there's no queen or the queen gets destroyed? Ovomorph a bunch of dudes into a royal egg and make a new queen, problem solved.
They are highly resistant to most poisons and diseases. In the canon comics there was one where the marines had invented an effective gas that was quite successful for wiping out whole nests, but i never read the second half of that comic so i cant tell you if they adapted to the gas somehow.
In another comic theres a whole planet worth of xenomorphs dying out, because the Queen was rendered sterile, thanks to engineer goo. But thats the only two examples of chemical warfare i can recall.
Nothing we currently have would likely be very effective tbqh >blister agents
motherfuckers built for living in hostile environments, planets have acid rain and shit plus they got acid blood and shit dont think thatll work at all >blood agents
wildly different anatomy, same story >nerve agents
target acetycholinesterase, again likely wouldnt be effective due to their wildly different anatomy, kinda like how nicotinoid pesticides dont work as a nerve agent against humans but do against insects
you could probably design something but the fuckers can unironically survive hard vacuum plus all sorts of hostile environments meaning they're probably pretty well sealed up.
They still need oxygen, or atleast the ones with human hosts do. Although they do use less oxygen than humans. I assume the cold would eventually kill them, but i dont actually know that for sure.
Okay, what biomechanical function do they need oxygen for? I somehow doubt that they have hemoglobin in their blood. >I assume the cold would eventually kill them, but i dont actually know that for sure.
But space isn't cold, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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According to the Alien omnibus, they adapt to breath whatever gas is in the atmosphere. So i figure the vacuum of space would be enough to suffocate them. It doesnt specify if the adaptation can happen to an individual Xeno or if its because the Xeno's host was a species native to a different type of gas, and they retain the host's reliance on that gas to survive.
They also detect smells and more importantly pheromones through breathing. The pheromones is how they communicate with each other.
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I don't find that explanation very compelling for a multitude of reasons. If they have concentrated acid for blood, what exactly is oxygen going to do? It's more reasonable to me that they work like batteries, not needing any presence of gas to function. And haven't we seen them adapt to a multitude of scenarios even across longer distances, such as in Aliens when they stress tested the sentry guns? They retreated before the defences were completely breached and then there was a significant distance between Hadley's Hope and the hive, certainly too long for orders from the queen to propagate through pheromones.
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Im not saying it makes sense, just that its the canon. I mean theres no way Newt should have been able to live in the ventilation shafts, that run throughout all of Hadley's hope, since the Xeno have a strong sense of smell, and would be able to smell her and catch her.
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>Okay, what biomechanical function do they need oxygen for?
to maintain metabolic activity obviously. What the fuck do you think humans need oxygen for?
According to the Alien omnibus, they adapt to breath whatever gas is in the atmosphere. So i figure the vacuum of space would be enough to suffocate them. It doesnt specify if the adaptation can happen to an individual Xeno or if its because the Xeno's host was a species native to a different type of gas, and they retain the host's reliance on that gas to survive.
They also detect smells and more importantly pheromones through breathing. The pheromones is how they communicate with each other.
that's retarded, only oxygen-carbon and oxygen-hydrogen burning is energetic enough to keep a monster like that going. it's more likely that they can adapt to different levels of oxygen and filter out other harmful gasses
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>to maintain metabolic activity obviously. What the fuck do you think humans need oxygen for?
Do humans have acid for blood?
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the exact mechanism of transferring oxygen is less important than its function in the cell, that is burning with carbohydrates to power the organism. There is no other chemical reaction that can could sustain xenomorph's metabolism same way we don't see large organisms depending on sulphur reactions
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First off, ATP is not produced just with carbohydrates unless you're talking of cancer cells, in which case you're not correct either because they produce energy anaerobically using fermentation. Regular cells can utilise either glucose or ketones for energy.
Second, it's much more likely that the aliens function as some sort of a battery. Which would again explain why they always tend to make their nests near power generators, why they don't show up on thermal and why they can operate in a perfect vacuum or underwater.
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>ATP is not produced just with carbohydrates >lists two carbohydrates
ignoring that retarded point you still need oxygen to burn it. Anaerobic metabolism is much less efficient and again could not sustain a xenomorph's body
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If you mean the larger group of all CH compounds, then say hydrocarbon. Carbohydrate in scientific literature generally means saccharides.
Anaerobic metabolism is much less efficient, true, but it's also how xenomorphs function. You try to reconcile those two facts if you for some reason can't accept the explanation of them working as batteries.
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they clearly need oxygen though, since they can't survive in vacuum forever
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I'm not so sure. They can likely survive the eventual dissipation of heat through radiation, judging by how many times they've been fully incased in ice and then defrosted in the various films, and if their pressurised exoskeleton can keep their fluids from boiling, they could theoretically survive indefinitely by going into a very deep hibernation.
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except the aliens move around in vacuum pretty often without any issues. the alien in alien didn't show any problems at all being put in the vacuum, the alien queen in aliens even manage to scream in space, the alien 3 one survives being inside molten metal(I forgot what kind of metal) and only seems to have gotten angry from it. in alien isolation the drones follow you out into space and seem more interested in eating you then trying to survive. the eggs survive on LV246 and at the time it didn't have a life sustaining atmosphere (alien), in alien out of the shadows(I might mix the audio dramas together), a bunch of aliens survive being locked in a short range shuttle for days. and also again live on a non-life bearing planet. I think there is more instances of aliens being in vacuum but I can't think of them at the top of my head.
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>the alien 3 one survives being inside molten metal(I forgot what kind of metal) and only seems to have gotten angry from it.
lead, so not the hottest thing in the world, while obviously that would kill a normal animal, his core might not have heated up all THAT much by the time he got out of it. It's actually super hard to heat something well insulated up fast just by dumping something hot on it.
In other words, there's a universe of difference between touching fire, and being on fire.
>Aren't these things bulletproof?
No? Why would they be?
Hell in Alien 1 that little fucking harpoon, which is blunt at the front and can't be moving more than 400fps actually cracks through the Alien's exoskeleton.
it took like singular rounds to their head to instantly have it explode violently all over the room, it was their speed and numbers that made them so dangerous. The marines absolutely kill a bunch of them throughout the movie it's just barely making a dent in their overall numbers.
In Aliens they're using a 10mm high explosive armour piercing round, and they still have to hose them. Pistols and shotguns are shown to only work at point blank range.
In the other Aliens media, earlier weapons have negligible effect.
Did anyone score a kill on an adult Xenomorph with 21st century weapons in all of AVP 1 or 2? It looked like everyone was just plinking at them to no effect.
>Pistols and shotguns are shown to only work at point blank range
Guns don’t lose their effectiveness after a few feet. If a pistol does damage, a rifle easily can at hundreds or yards
I don't know how much stronger you "think" shotguns and pistols are at "point blank" range but the difference is basically nothing.
The fact is, and always will be, that a shotgun from the 1800s was able to not only pierce a xenomorphs skull, but do so AFTER punching through all the meat in it's head.
Basic bitch non armor piercing 5.56 will punch through five IIIA vests, a single IIIA vest would stop every single shotgun shell Hicks was carrying. A IIA Vest will stop buckshot for Christ's sake.
anon the guns shoots like 1400 rpm and has a 99 round magazine, "hosing" them is pointing it at one for like 1 second of sustained fire and hitting it like 23 times
they're removed from the food chain, like us, they have to go out of their way to find things to kill that are the most challenging
its like one of us hunting a wild full sized starving lion with nothing but some knives and a spear.. maybe a sling and some nice river stone to replace the plasma caster
>they're removed from the food chain, like us,
Agreed. But “ultimate apex predator” makes it sound like Xenomorphs are better than anything else. They aren’t.
They can copy some of the best parts from whatever apex predator, that gets face hugged.
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Ok. They still die to guns and explosives and heavy machinery.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
So would a T-Rex, doesn't change the fact that they are extremely lethal predators
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ultimate apex predator” makes it sound like Xenomorphs are better than anything else. They aren’t.
What part of this don’t you get? I’m not saying they aren’t deadly. I’m not saying they can’t kill or be effective. I am saying that humans and our weapons can kill them without issue.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Im not disagreeing with you. The point im trying and probably failing to make is that, is that the xenomorphs are meant to allways be superior to its host race. Humanity is just lucky enough, that our race evolved in the one direction Xeno's havent been able to copy. Intelligenc, which has allowed us to make countermeasures and weapons that can compensate for our other weaknesses. But against any other predator(With the exeption of Pradators) the Xeno's will inevitably win.
>that one Anon black guy who gets killed first >that one Anon who gets siphoned off the vents >that one Anon who breaks off from the group to explore a bit and get himself killed >that one Anon who won't look up or down and gets ambushed >that one Anon who gets ganked but still managing to brush off the attack but gets sprayed by acid blood >that one Anon gets immediate PTSD after seeing his buddy killed and becomes neurotic all throughout the ordeal >that one Anon who gets facehugged and spawns another ayylmao >that one Anon who drops his gear by accident, picks it up with sticky saliva and then gets killed >that one Anon who runs far ahead of the group and gets killed >that one Anon who gets captured and cocooned >that one Anon who is in charge of fixing stuff and gets killed just before he manages to fix said stuff
I don't think a single one of us is guiding a ship through an ion storm with like 5% visibility, crawling through the pipe is easy though
honestly Bishop is the best character if they didn't have him they are ALL dead... fucking androids are either the saviors or actively sabotaging the mission lmao
If a femoid could beat it, so could anyone. >b-but
I don't care that the plot has it kill men to make it not seem as pathetic as it is. Realistically a femoid would be the first to die in any threatening situation because women are weak and stupid.
Use your ranged weapons at range. Too close and you'll likely get sprayed by acid blood.
If they get in melee range, youre pretty much fucked. Theyre taller, stronger and faster than you with multiple ways of attacking. If you have an acid-resistant weapon (and hopefully armor) you can fend off 1. But when even the Predator has trouble fighting them off melee, you'll have a tough fight.
Also keep in mind that they are pressurized, so more likely than not theyll explode a little. So give them a very wide berth.
Terminally online guys who argue who would win in sci fi battles insist that the Xenos must be pressurized because of how much their blood splashes when they're shot, rather than just accepting that blood splatter in movies isn't realistic.
I know, I know, but they pretend not to know that until it comes time to argue that the Pulse rifle is "like, actually even stronger than a 50BMG because it like, blows up and would explode your whole body"
or some shit.
>If you have an acid-resistant weapon
Why would this matter unless it’s a melee weapon? Sure it’s acid blood can dissolve copper and lead but not in the milliseconds the bullet passes through
The answer is never not going to be a 5.56mm M4 unless you’re going up against the Terminator or a Kaiju. Any half decent LAM with NODs and a COTI, and the Xeno will be more worried about you taking their Xenussy than you’ll be worried about how to kill them.
Explosives and anti-material weapons. Honestly, the sequels dropped the ball by portraying terminators as near indestructible. T1 shows the T800 as a cunning infiltrator that knows when the odds aren't in its favor, e.g. after the car crash when the cops show up.
okay im woefully disappointed by the answers here in this thread. Heres the Sgt.AssClaper's guide to killing Xenonaggers:
Step 1. Dont be stupid, and don't underestimate your opponent.
Step 2. Stay in the open as much as possible, they do not have range, range is your ally.
step 3. Metal before meat, especially because any flesh is sustenance and breeding material for the enemy
step 4. Area of effect weapons, explosive, chemical weapons, artillery, carpet bomibng, nukes, suicide drone, etc.. fuck off with tanks, and rifles
step 5. environmental destruction. Think of how the halo rings change their weather to contain the flood. Forest fires, unit 738 bio weapons, whatever the fuck we got.
the point is to deny them meat from which they can multiply, and energy. Xeno's are more efficient than we will ever be. but the advantage we do have is range, range we can use to stay the fuck away from them.
situation in which you have none of these.
step 1. give up, and suicide your ships nuclear core. Or use whatever high energy fuel your transport you took to get into this fucked situation as tool to destroy all biological matter, i.e. set as much shit on fire as possible, including yourself
if the uber aryan chads couldn't beat them neither can you
The space aryans never seemed to think of space OSHA, then again neither did any of the humans. Maybe the strong nuclear force in the setting makes all life retarded.
All scfi settings require humans to be retards to lose, even if the aliens are super duper advanced they are often retards in how they apply their technology or just outright weaker weapon systems humans could develop even today without any restrictions like casaba howitzers. It's mostly written by libtards or israelites so what do you expect?
Except for The Thing, that creature is bullshit and we're doomed no matter what. And not because of "muh global warming" libtards would no doubt make a topical plot point but because the ice is flowing toward the sea and when a chunk of it gets eaten by a starfish in 200k years the ocean turns into a stew of intestines, dogheads, and tentacles. Also either there is entire ecosystem of cell devouring creatures which can defend themselves from one another somewhere and some retard picked one up or some retard made it as a weapon and then once again didn't think to invent OSHA. And that was based on a pulp novela from the 30s when non-homosexuals still wrote scifi and got widely published.
The Thing at least seems to require some kind of critical mass to really take anything over. The fact that his cells could, in some limited way, attack other cells apparently doesn't let him exponentially continue this process, there must be some limiting factor that stopped him from just breathing or spitting on everyone and infecting them that way. Similarly the dead dogs did not spontaneously mutate even after days or hours.
While the humans fear a subtle infection, the Thing, who acts very intelligently throughout the entire movie and is *aware* of that fear, acts as though it is impossible.
This thing made super quick work of dispatching them. Just grab their attention and plow over them - the Xenos it killed were trying to attack it so it's clear they didn't have any sort of awareness that it was fucking them up left and right and just kept on coming.
>perfect killing weaponized organism >kills like 5 space trucker hicks who never got a chance to discuss the bonus situation >dies to a female space trucker
>perfect killing weaponized organism >requires 2 stage/different organisms to reach maturity >requires host organism to reach maturity >requires host organism with specific size constraints to gestate
garbage, only thing it has going for it is dormancy ability otherwise they'd all die out before something stumbled near a facehugger
In the earth war book they said that shotgun slugs just put a dent in their exoskeleton, and the ones in aliens were all being blasted with 10mm armor piercing explosive tipped caseless fictional ammo. Pistol rounds were just bouncing off them and the only shotgun kill was when hicks put the muzzle in an aliens mouth. I'm assuming 5.56 would be fairly effective, probably anything over 2000 fps would be effective
unzips dick
Giger approves
Oh yeah, you're going to defeat the rape allegory with your dick, that's gonna work out for you.
Everybody knows that the thing the rapist fears most of all is becoming the rapee, that's just science.
No, my biggest fear is Hippos.
Same.
Not a rapist tho.
Can't beat the cock, man. Nope. Not the cock.
Xenomorphs are practically cocks on legs.
>unzips dick
There is another harder dick inside
The drones are the males of the Xenomorph species right?
Do you think their dicks has a extending mini dick, like their mouths?
Ayys have no gender save for the kweenz
Drones aren't male, they have no gender, they could be trannies or straight black chuds
The only canon male in the hive are the Praetorians, which is the only variant that never appeared in any films/kino/slop
Drones are the basic bitch ayyys, """less""" aggressive than Warriors (Aliens, Alien: Resurrection) but still exceedingly dangerous
Ayys just molt into whatever the hive requires, the first ayy that popped into Hadley's Hope was a drone who eventually turned into a warrior after it's job of capturing some of the inhabitants as facehugger fodder was complete
I thought queens had to come from specific facehuggers or Preatorians who were exposed to engineer goo
According to canon recent 20th Century Fox comics any ayyy can molt into a queen but the most common one is the giant facehugger from Alien 3
The queen from Hadley's Hope molted from a drone according to Newt's audiobook
Any ayyy can transition into any variant as the hive requires it
Ah thanks. I just remembered how 6(The pc xenomorph from the AvP 2010 game) grew through several diffrent castes, and eventually became the new queen. And the lore blurb said it was due to exposure to engineer goo (The collectible in the game)
>slop
If movies are slop comics are the shit the pigs actually push out of the troph.
That was uncalled for
Its a legitimate question
Bullets
no dumbfuck the conventional arms that conolonies had access to was not doing enough damage or any
you needed the M4A1 pulse rifles 10x24 caseless explosive ammo
We see a regular shotgun blow a hole through an aliens head.
We saw current level national guard blast a few
Use the shoulder thing that goes up.
A barrel Shroud? How's that going to help?
Barrel shrouds are highly effective killing machines.
>have tech that shits on anyone that isn't an engineer
>use it solely to go on space safaris
I love these little niggas.
They are great. Their only weakness is their poor eyesight, besides that they are pretty fucking amasing. They are also the race with the second longest natural life in the universe (3'rd if you count predaliens as its own seperate species)
Let others try their luck killing it, and while that happens, slip away.
They always manage to track down and surprise the guy who slips away.
Live in a universe that doesn't allow nonsensical magic monsters to exist
Not many universes without religion
Yeah, how did it grow from football-sized to larger than man-sized on nothing but thin air in a couple of days? It didnt even eat the cat.
In the draft script there's a scene showing it plundering a refrigerator.
Thematically, it's a fucking monster flick. It's supposed to be scary by confounding expectations.
Geigerian monsters are not supposed to be purely scientific, they're intentionally supernatural and attempts to demystify them have always been retarded.
>It didnt even eat the cat
Weird alien.
I never understood these things, I guess bullet's don't work on them somehow I'm guessing? What about explosives? Unless it has magic movie monster plot armor, grenades and rockets should do the trick.
Bullets work well on them but only when there is horde them of they are easy to shoot
There's also the whole acid blood problem, if you magdumped one at close range you'd kill it, and also drench yourself in movie-tier acid.
I cover myself in baking soda
I’m based enough I’m not worried
Nobody is going to understand that joke here.
It makes me happy at least one person got it
Dont listen to him, it was a solid joke. That anybody who has gone through elementary school will be able to get
You may be basic, but you're safe.
Ate pumpkin Hispanice lattes and ugg boots the ultimate defense?
Bullets fuck them up hardcore.
Wouldn’t have that caused several gigantic holes in the station with all the xenomorphs’ acid ?
The acid is never I repeat NEVER consistent.
Yes, but in this case this is a bit less of a problem for the scene since the tunnel the turrets are in is both underground and on a planet which now has a largely breathable atmosphere.
They do work but ony if if the plot needs them to work.
Bullets work, they're just sneaky and have acid blood. Usually they'll either outflank you and hit you from behind, catch you unaware, or you'll die from acid burns after you shoot them.
It always depends on plot armor. But in the absence of said armor xenomorphs die easy to gunfire. In AVP 2 the citizens of the town that was attacked by the predalien managed to gather in the center of town and we’re successfully fending off the attacking aliens with commonly available small arms, right up until they got nuked.
I thought they were being overrun, and they were all dying with or without the nuke. They just happened to do better than the soldiers since the villagers werent caught by suprise.
In the original it was just acid blood will tear through the entire ship.
But in the lore they're supposed to be sneaky and super fast, shown somewhat better in the newer Alien movies out in the open. They're like zerglings
A 9m might be enough to take down a drone or a chest burster, but the more heavily armoured types like soldiers or praetorians, would take more. For the queen i wouldnt rely on anything that isnt AP
>Alien pops its head up over a counter to surprise you
>Is instead surprised by a supersonic nine-meter projectile
>The alien is gone, and so is everything else.
I mean, it's not the worst plan.
It's the only way to be sure
Going by the first two movies only (cuz I hate the rest), bullets work fine. In the first film they don't have guns and even if they did, bursting the bug would be bad news, since its blood is highly pressurized and highly corrosive, and the Nostromo is a civilian refinery tug. Shotguns work in exposed orifices. Gorman used a pistol in his last stand, but there's nothing to suggest it was very effective. Rifle and machine gun calibers shred them. Flamethrowers don't seem to do much but we never really see someone pin one down and roast it properly.
Ultimately armed guys lost in the second film due to being tremendously outnumbered and bad discipline leading to a half-assed entry into their turf.
Flamethrowers were pretty effective at scaring the bugs away.
>Shotguns work in exposed orifices
It blows through the back of his fucking skull through like half a foot of meat. Putting it in his mouth doesn't matter.
Vasquez holds one against the wall with her foot and shreds it's head with her pistol. The reality is the disconnect from Ridley's space rape horror monster and Cameron's space Charlie means the xenomorph switches between bullet proof bioweapon and endless infestation waves of gnashing bugs depending on what the story needs. The only thing that seems to hold steady is that their true threat is in how fast they reproduce and grow.
Honestly that doesn't seem that unfeasible actually- they adapt to the situation, sort of like tyranids from 40k. If they need lots of weak drones to collect more hosts for the hive and all they're up against are barely armed colonists, that's what they go for (and that's how you get Hadley's Hope). But if there are only few xenomorphs around and/or they're against stiffer resistance, that's when they dedicate more resources to improve solitary units (and that's how you get the drone in Nostromo).
>Xenomorphs are actually Gene Stealers
I accept this as fact.
They do keep traits from their host species. Like the increased longevity of a Predator and its
increased size and strength. Or the thinner and faster bodies they get if the host is a dog.
They go down pretty quick in Aliens so I would imagine simple AP 5.56 would kill them pretty fast.
They use explosive rounds in the film
>pokes a bunch of tiny holes into them and they don't give a shit
you need to make them explode anon, violently explode their entire chest cavity or skull open not just poke holes in it
few rounds of 10×24mm Caseless should do the trick.
10x28
Underr8ed
where did you get 10x28? I don't put it passed a wiki page to be wrong so..
Apparently the rifles are 10x24, sentries and smart guns are x28
I need it
I have it, its awesome.
Pic related has a great "Tales of the Gun" style story all about the pulse rifle. Also a great Hicks backstory and one from the POV of the xenomorphs and their methods of communicating and thinking. Recommmended.
The Heather Graham story fucking SUCKS, btw. Female authors are a perpetual disappointment.
fight them in the open and slaughter them easily
they won't attack you in the open dummy it's the most apex predator that ever apex predator'd you're not going to even know it's there before it's 10 feet away a
>apex predator
>no ranged attacks
Pick one
In some instances, they have been shown to throw face huggers at enemies. That way even if they miss, you will either be distracted or surrounded.
There was also that one in AVP 1 who whipped his tail to flick acid blood at a Predator.
Yeah i thought about mentioning that too, but it seemed too situational.
After it got cut off partially though right? It’s not an intentional attack, it’s a taking what advantage you can in a negative situation.
Man avp1 was so bad. I refuse to believe that a f*moid human can outperform yautja in any way even if they're juvies.
The predator in Prey gets it's ass handed to it pretty handily by a 5'5" 26 year old woman in hand to hand combat. Seems to unless they're fighting Arnold they kinda suck at fist fights
I don't remember any 26 year old women in any of the two predator movies that actually fought the predator.
She didn't outperform him in any way, she stood around crying and gave him his gun, then he carried her the rest of the adventure.
Also calling them Yautja makes you sound like a fag.
But she was based on a major character from the comics. Who was the only human accepted into a Predator clan.
The comics suck and no one read them.
That's like saying if I'm a mile away from two tanks that get hit with an airstrike, I outperformed them.
She fought zero, 0, (zero) Aliens unassisted.
Not that predators are unkillable supermen anyway. They've been killed by normal humans many times in the series, including several times in Melee combat, in which they have a massive advantage in reach, strength, and experience. Flukes happen, if they didn't they wouldn't hunt to begin with.
>She fought zero, 0, (zero) Aliens unassisted.
She killed one with a fucking spear
An alien that had already been thrown around by the predator, with the predator's magic space spear.
Is Ripley better than a predator because she hit an Alien with a car?
There were three predators in the beginning, she certainly outperformed the other two who died almost instantly upon contact with the xenomorph.
easy, turn off the movie
Be a jannie and start moving the recent surge of /x/ shit back to that containment board. Then send a darkened Caddillac with a couple of gorillas wearing dark glasses and suits to o/p's house to teach him a lesson. Would love to see his expression when he opens the door and has to show up in school the next day with various marks.
That or the banhammer.
"How do you kill (monster)" has been a staple of /k/ forever. Although I guess you wouldn't know that since you've only been here a year.
>Then send a darkened Caddillac with a couple of gorillas wearing dark glasses and suits to o/p's house to teach him a lesson. Would love to see his expression when he opens the door and has to show up in school the next day with various marks.
You realize sending goons to people's houses is a very bad idea in America, right thirdie?
Probably with a firearm of some sort.
Take off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Underrated post
guns probably idk
penis
That's exactly what it's based on. Look up the artist Giger. It's meant to look just as likely to rape you as it is to murder you.
Sauce?
Well, NNN is a fail again this year.
Ithaca 37 fucked one up right proper, so long as you can land a hit you should be fine with anything.
acid resistant condoms
I would drive over that thing with a fucking Baneblade, reverse, and drive over it again. I wouldn't even waste ammo on it, I would grind it to dust and proceed forward with an entire regiment behind me, the prometheum fumes of our Emperor-blessed steeds doubling the planet's emissions levels as we roll coal over every xenos on the planet.
Your commissar is going to shoot you for damaging the tracks
The Commissar is going to shoot YOU for implying that the mighty BANEBLADE's tracks can be damaged by fulfilling their correct function of running over heretics, a capability they are built specifically for by the finest Martian cogboys.
Acid blood, retard. Everyone knows standard procedure for engaging acid blooded xenos is to dismount and engage them on foot, as to not risk damaging anything valuable.
Maybe in your shit regiment they are that doesn't properly apply the oils of cleansing before and after each engagement because you pissed off the admechs shoving lasgun powerpacks up your own asses. Are you completely unfamiliar with the popular children's song sung at many a schola progenium, "The Treads on the Tank Run Over the Xenos?" This ain't a chimera, pal, those treads are wide enough to run over an entire tau family holding hands and standing abreast. There is not enough blood in that xenos' body to damage THE BANEBLADE's tracks.
>Are you completely unfamiliar with the popular children's song sung at many a schola progenium, "The Treads on the Tank Run Over the Xenos?" This ain't a chimera, pal, those treads are wide enough to run over an entire tau family holding hands and standing abreast. There is not enough blood in that xenos' body to damage THE BANEBLADE's tracks.
Funny, that's the same argument our driver used after he ran through that xenos nest. Didn't stop him from getting *blam*ed
At least I'm able to go outside and touch grass without growing two extra limbs and a third eye, hive scum.
I don't believe your regiment even has baneblades. I'm not even sure your regiment has commissars. I don't believe you and your anecdote.
>Baneblades
We only had the one.
>His regiment only had one baneblade
Oh no no no feudalbros not like this...
One baneblade is quite a lot when you're supposed to be a light cavalry unit.
>light cavalry unit
Third world regiments never change.
>yfw you realize lasguns cauterize wounds so IG can fight xenomorphs close up
The eyebrows are in the ass and I understand everything.
I seem to recall laser cuts on xenos still producing acid blood but I don't remember the exact media.
It was the scene in the first movie where they're trying to remove the facehugger.
Damn, the Munitorum lied to me?
best case senario you're vaporizing the acid and now there's vapors in the air and I cannot imagine inhaling that is good for you
probably better then it just directly spattering onto your face though
Iirc, then the aliens bloodpressure is so high, that it violently spurts out a jet of acid before coagulating near instantly.
That assumes the blood clots, which it might not. Granted, that means it would bleed out from literally any wound it has, but that is besides the point.
anons, you have to realize that laser weapons dont "cut", when shot, the target area explodes due to heating up a lot and very quickly
Not in a proper mechanized regiment.Planets that aren't shitholes have them feudal trash.
Damn it, Burke!
SHUT UP IVE DONE SEVERAL COMBAT DROPS (simulated)
YOU'RE GONNA GET US ALL KILLED
I forgot who Burke was.. thought it was the captain/commander who's freaking out as everyone gets smoked
Burke is the SLIMEBAG corporate SHITHEEL lmao
this homosexual is the WORST
all my homies hate Burke
>all my homies hate Burke
It's good to be popular.
That guy would have made a great Paul Bernardo.
That's Gorman, and in Gorman's defense, he wouldn't have even been there had Burke not pulled strings to get a rookie officer that he knew would defer to him assigned to the mission.
gorman is inexperienced but not malicious. he at least dies like a man.
Apone should have overruled Gorman and extracted as soon as he was told about the reactor core.
He was never told about the reactor core, just told to collect magazines.
"You always were an asshole"
yeah he and Vasquez go out like champs, Burke is an absolute fucking corporate scumbucket they should have iced him in some dark corridor and left him to rot lmao
That guy on top is grossly out of scale, aren't baneblades three stories high and bigger than a Maus?
>That guy on top is grossly out of scale, aren't baneblades three stories high and bigger than a Maus?
He's just a big guy.
uuuu
>He doesn't know about the Ogryn armored regiments
Do they have really simplified fisher-price looking controls on the tanks?
The only control they have is a big plastic wheel with a red button in the middle.
One official source said the baneblade had worse armor than an abrams.
People who make 40k cannot into IRL tech.
The only serious attempt to stat 40k vehicles was Imperial Armour, which based their stats on WW2 vehicles - Lema Russ has the armour (and engine, LOL) of a Tiger 2, while Baneblade has armour of the Maus.
>Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned.
Personally, I like to think Imperial tank armor is WW2 tier because of how sad the state of their MIC is, but is saved by them being fuckhuge and there being loads of them.
it kinda makes sense, since all the weapons are equally fucking OP in order to deal with the literal-plot-armor tier armor in universe, it basically just evens itself back out and you could just go back to WW2 tier armor mechanics/logic just with way different weapon platforms obviously
>how dare they make stuff in a fantasy game not satisfy my autistic obsessions!
Seek help
>three stories high
No
>bigger than a Maus
Yes.
I heard once that 40k is "heroic scale" where proportions are a little exaggerated, though that's been changing of late.
Most of the stories are written from the characters perspectives, so things might be described as bigger if its a guardsman and smaller if its an Astartes.
Just like in Aliens
>10mm explosive tip caseless, light armor piercing
A lone xeno isn't really that much of a threat if you have a good gun. Provided you are not in a situation where you cannot risk shooting, or cannot risk the acid blood spilling.
Iunno, they're smart enough not to jump out in the open where you can shoot them. They're good at ambushes
Not smarter than humans though.
The movies all rely on the humans being off guard and/or ill equipped. The marines only really lose to them because they are massively outnumbered.
Throw a net over it. No way it can untangle itself with all those spikes all over it.
It was tried in AvP. The xenomorph will hurt itself to release its acid blood. In order to escape.
my benis
Sad fact: progress made all these action setting irrelevant. Thinking about all these monsters and tactical movies etc. Just send fucking drones to do the scouting and you just chill back. You found enemies? Spam FPV kamikaze drowns against them.
No danger
Mo suspense
No challenge
Just wack a mole game.
Technology of the year 2023 made adventure outdated.
Future is retconed.
Drones haven't even rendered weapons a century old irrelevant you RTS fag.
To be fair, they already had sentient humanoid androids in Aliens. They just don't arm robots because they aren't allowed to.
You need to read the comic that was originally the sequel to Aliens before Alien III came out and it had to be retconned.
There was an entire team of marines who were androids. Also one of them had sex with Newt.
Legally distinct female. Newt and Hicks had their names changed in the comics(possibly retroactively) to avoid confusion with the third movie.
>Also one of them had sex with Newt.
No biological offspring. A fate worse than death.
Iirc then she found out she was catfished soon after(She didnt know he was an android), and then the guy got disembowelled by aliens
>Also one of them had sex with Newt
Nice
Sorry anon, they're under the primary heat exchangers. Our FPV links get blocked there.
>aliens start to get smart and start laying organic membranes everywhere to catch the drones
>spit acid on them
>intentionally sacrifice new drones to dive into the FPV drones and kill themselves
>also they live in the most cramped hellholes imaginable have fun navigating a drone inside
Shut the fuck up you utterly retarded homosexual holy shit
Shotgun. You can kill anything with 00 buck or slugs. Shotguns have been protecting farmer Joe Bobs anus and cows from aliens since at least the 1940s.
#4 trumps 00 from an energy standpoint. Double aught is much easier to find though, and the difference is pretty negligible at expected engagement distances.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/10%C3%9728mm_Caseless
that's the wrong gun nigga lmao
both the 10x24 and 10x28 were making those gay ass ayylmaos fucking explode into chunks of exoskeleton and acidic mist so
Neat
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/M42A_Scope_Rifle
The ghillie suit with a heat absorbing internal body suit and temp regulator is a pretty decent idea.
A bardiche and some platemail
my nigga
Composite or poly materials probably exist that would resist the acid while still allowing enough freedom of movement.
>stab alien
>get acid blood on sword
>sword dissolves
>no more sword
>He doesn't carry a dozen backup swords
I shiggy diggy
Just make it out of synthetic diamond. It's the hardest metal and should be fine.
God bless A.I. (Until it destroys us. Maybe that is His plan.)
This basically happened in one of the comics. Too bad it was all a dream.
Sharp stick and harsh language.
Nobody in this thread has said "flame thrower".
Because those don't work. They tried that in the first movie and it didn't kill it.
It was used to great effect against Frost, in the second movie
In the AvP universe, 5.56 was enough to kill drones and the warriors, barring plot armor. Praetorians and the Queen had thicker carapace, so it would require higher calibers, close to .50 bmg. Some of the more exotic variations of the xenomorph, like the Crusher, would not be susceptible to small arms, and would probably require some form of high explosive, rpg, or a tank.
But what about the Predalien?
In Requiem, didn't it take a burst of 5.56 and not really phase it? Id expect it have the same resilience as the yautja.
I don't recall any instance where we actually see the Predalien get shot, but predators aren't bulletproof.
Maybe more bullet resistant than normal flesh, but we haven't seen one resist a single bullet of any caliber without bleeding. In predator two the predator was shot with a shotgun, firing either buckshot or a lead slug, in other words the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of armor penetration.
>Praetorians and the Queen had thicker carapace, so it would require higher calibers, close to .50 bmg.
No real way to gauge this.
In AVP, the queen's exoskeleton was pierced by everything it was hit with, including the inner-jaws of regular drones.
>In AVP, the queen's exoskeleton was pierced by everything it was hit with, including the inner-jaws of regular drones.
The xenomorph inner jaw can penetrate a ballistic helmet and the predator mask. They punch out pretty hard.
While that's never made a whole lot of sense considering the shape and the fact that it has to be made out of the same shit as the rest of the xenomorph (not to mention the jaw visibly doesn't move fast enough, or create enough inertia, to punch through but when has a movie ever given a shit about that), that's also difficult to quantify. After all, 5.56 will punch straight through a modern ballistic helmet.
Were also talking about a xenomorph queen that was imprisoned in a tomb for thousands of years. It was old, weak, and should not have been pulled under the water by a water tower.
>It was weak
No proof of that, if anything it was more quick and lively than the other one. Also no proof it's exoskeleton would be weaker even IF it's muscles were.
>It should not have been pulled under the water by an object larger and heavier than itself yanking on a chain connected to it at an awkward angle
Why? Because of your feelings and dreams?
The queen not being able to easily lift a ten foot forklift bot was a major plot point in the only other portrayal of the queen on screen.
I think it's probably the teeth that are like some nonsensical level of hardness so they can basically eat through anything in their way, even the Xenomorphs main mouth has teeth that look like they're made of a different organic material, like it's fuckin titanium
5.56 can go through ballistic helmets too
pretty sure the M41A pulse rifle ammo produces wounding effects you would expect to see from something like a GPMG or HMG.. so idk what anon is talking about. You could probably kill a Queen with enough dudes shooting the piss out of it with explosive small arm ammunition it just wouldn't be very efficient
also consider it like a giant biological tank, it will have areas that are way thicker like the head plate, but joints and stuff like that will likely be much thinner and easy to penetrate with """small"" arms
>pretty sure the M41A pulse rifle ammo produces wounding effects you would expect to see from something like a GPMG or HMG
Trying to compare armor penetration by comparing terminal effects against non armor materials is not going to go anywhere useful. You can have effects like an order of magnitude apart just from picking a different bullet in the same caliber.
Just make sure Vasquez is between you and it at all times
Fucking Vasquez, heard the recruiter say aliens, thought they meant illegal aliens and signed up.
You dont need to tell me to get behind Vasquez's sweet little beaner booty twice
The bitch who played her was israeli. Messed me up bad as a kid because I thought Mexicans had israeli surnames.
It sorta gets on my nerves when I see people complain that they should have cast a "real latina" for the role of Vasquez. That actress nailed that role. Al Pacino isn't really Cuban either, Sylvester Stallone isn't a war vet, and Lance Henriksen isn't really an android; it's acting, their whole job is to pretend they're something they aren't. Muh authenticity is a stupid political meme and only drags down the medium.
Say what you want, but she got sufficiently toned for her role as Vasquez. That's more than you would get from today's actresses.
>Muh authenticity is a stupid political meme
>Its antisemitism to suggest israelites cannot play any role of any race, but every white person should be replaced.
Now consider the wringing of hands and angry tweets that a non-israelite playing a israeli role in hollywood causes and get back to me.
>Now consider the wringing of hands
I literally never do
It's because of a recent change in SAG rules saying a role has to be played by someone who shares at least some of the ethnicity of the character. Want to know why so many adaptations now have new characters that weren't in the original work and tend to be played by black actors? That's why, it's to get around that rule.
Note this only applies in the US, in the UK it's held that the whole point of ACTING is to play someone other than yourself.
Lance Henriksen is probably a real android, but besides that i agree with you
I hope you learned as a child that neither could be trusted. It’s a good life lesson to pick up early
Turn off the TV.
Get on the phone to Predator
I've been trying.
Ever since Chris Hansen started going crazy, none will pick up the phone.
rule 34 alien with big tits
Am I the only one that finds facehuggers way more hot than the drones/warriors?
How could you not want to fuck this?
absolutely would
kliener kept lamar around for a reason, he was up to some dirty ass shit having that fucker debeaked.
reminds me of that one green about forcing a squid to suck your dick as a means of it to survive.
>anon thinks the thing that throat-rapes you is hot
you could just say you love penis, man
That's weird, man. I want to stick my dick in some big alien babes not have facehugger chode in my throat.
.45 acp
we're trying to defend ourselves not obliterate the entire space station
if it's a sight you don't care about (like you are retaking earth after the earth war) I would scatter pigs hooked up with heart monitors and wearing bomb belts, bigger boom the better, they'll get grabbed and cocooned and then the baby comes out the hive explodes into glorious fury. if you need to retake a place of significant value you setup outside of it, using sentry guns to create a killing field, something simple like an audio system and either penal troopers or more animals can be used as the bait. also suicide vest equipped as the pigs, just with something like a single hand grenade for explosive yield. deny them their advantages by never going into their tunnels or nests, draw them out with enticing hosts into prepared killing fields staffed by machines so you don't lose valuable troopers. once that stops working and they no longer come out from the music and hosts you get free reign to operate on the surface and you can start using ground penetrating radar to try and locate the nests, once you find them you simply collapse them using explosives from the surface. you can do a similar thing to any kind of space installation you want too, although it will require more hardware (specifically some kind of big open platform you can dock to said installation, pop the airlock doors, ring the dinner bell and destroy them as they enter open space.
I'd be concerned about people running into eggs for generations to come. I think those things can persist for extremely long periods of time until something triggers them. Like the "little kids stepping on ancient landmines" problem on steroids since any missing person might end up being patient 0 for a new outbreak of xenomorphs.
once you have drawn out as many drones and warriors as you can you can begin normal cleaning operations as per aliens. but again if possible I would throw a whole zoo into the hole first so you can trigger all the eggs, ambushes and other dastardly shit they keep coming up with in their holes. a facehugger isn't very scary sitting happily on the muzzle on fido.
>1 of them
M41A Pulse Rifle a shitton of situational awareness and common sense
>more than 1
An entire squad armed with M41A Pulse Rifles with attachments, a shitton of situational awareness and common sense
>100
Escape the fuck away, make sure none have hidden themselves inside or outside the ship
>1000+
Escape far away on another galaxy, make sure none have hidden themselves inside or outside the ship, every other human gets shot in case they're carriers
>Escape far away
Have to nuke the site first. Only way to be sure.
I just thought of something.
What about directed energy weapons like lasers or the active denial system?
The ADS could be used to keep them from entering certain areas and funneling them into a kill box. The lasers could be used to engage them from a distance, as well as used on egg fields to rapidly go from one egg to the next, cooking each one inside.
In the comics the ayys got initially beat through conventional warfare and standard hive clearing tactics until they quickly adapted to just have multiple smaller hives and one-off nests that the humans can't find.
Eventually the humans lost because they got overwhelmed by drones borne out of livestock and lesser animals.
they also hide in the jungles of south america to start things of with (brazil if memory serves), and have the help of a alien worshiping cult to spread the infection.
I thinkbthat's the plot of the most recent game too. Shit's fucked on the planet you crash on because a good portion of the population worship these things, and is actively undermining the local government.
to start by not facing him in dark hallways, also armor
so nobody has mentioned chemical weapons yet??
I think canonically they are immune to most chemical and biological agents.
Still, based and Vasquez and Robert Muldoon-from-the-novel-pilled.
anon they basically live in a spacesuit, it's hermetically sealed and I think they can probably like filter it out or something through their exoskeleton
it's why when they get hit by bullets and shit they violently explode, they're under internal hydraulic pressure like a spider
>it's hermetically sealed
nagger their mouths open. Explain how it stays sealed when that happens.
>they explode
Movie special effects embellishment. Nothing more
>nagger their mouths open. Explain how it stays sealed when that happens.
membranes inside their esophagus? just because they have a mouth doesn't mean it's perfectly open to the air, I don't even think they breathe through it we just see them exhale hot vapor
>Movie special effects embellishment. Nothing more
oh yeah it had nothing to do with them getting shot by explosive ammo meant to penetrate body armor.. even people can explode into gooey bits like that but we're not florescent green
>membranes inside their esophagus?
Or maybe it's completely sealed. We don't ever see xenomorphs eat anything, do we?
I vaguely recall a deleted scene in one of the movies, where they were eating a corpse. But iirc then the corpses are usually used for biomass in their hives.
Speaking of deleted scenes, the ovomorph scene was pretty interesting too. It always made sense to me that if there were only a single drone present it'd be able to kickstart an entire hive if left alone long enough. Having a queen churn out facehuggers is obviously more efficient but what if there's no queen or the queen gets destroyed? Ovomorph a bunch of dudes into a royal egg and make a new queen, problem solved.
>they explode because they’re pressurized
>they explode because they were shot with explosive ammo
You are so close to getting it anon
They are highly resistant to most poisons and diseases. In the canon comics there was one where the marines had invented an effective gas that was quite successful for wiping out whole nests, but i never read the second half of that comic so i cant tell you if they adapted to the gas somehow.
In another comic theres a whole planet worth of xenomorphs dying out, because the Queen was rendered sterile, thanks to engineer goo. But thats the only two examples of chemical warfare i can recall.
Nothing we currently have would likely be very effective tbqh
>blister agents
motherfuckers built for living in hostile environments, planets have acid rain and shit plus they got acid blood and shit dont think thatll work at all
>blood agents
wildly different anatomy, same story
>nerve agents
target acetycholinesterase, again likely wouldnt be effective due to their wildly different anatomy, kinda like how nicotinoid pesticides dont work as a nerve agent against humans but do against insects
you could probably design something but the fuckers can unironically survive hard vacuum plus all sorts of hostile environments meaning they're probably pretty well sealed up.
The Xenomorphs will still die in space. But they are capable of surviving for a couple minutes, depending on the type.
>The Xenomorphs will still die in space
By what mechanism do they die in space?
They still need oxygen, or atleast the ones with human hosts do. Although they do use less oxygen than humans. I assume the cold would eventually kill them, but i dont actually know that for sure.
Okay, what biomechanical function do they need oxygen for? I somehow doubt that they have hemoglobin in their blood.
>I assume the cold would eventually kill them, but i dont actually know that for sure.
But space isn't cold, so that shouldn't be a problem.
According to the Alien omnibus, they adapt to breath whatever gas is in the atmosphere. So i figure the vacuum of space would be enough to suffocate them. It doesnt specify if the adaptation can happen to an individual Xeno or if its because the Xeno's host was a species native to a different type of gas, and they retain the host's reliance on that gas to survive.
They also detect smells and more importantly pheromones through breathing. The pheromones is how they communicate with each other.
I don't find that explanation very compelling for a multitude of reasons. If they have concentrated acid for blood, what exactly is oxygen going to do? It's more reasonable to me that they work like batteries, not needing any presence of gas to function. And haven't we seen them adapt to a multitude of scenarios even across longer distances, such as in Aliens when they stress tested the sentry guns? They retreated before the defences were completely breached and then there was a significant distance between Hadley's Hope and the hive, certainly too long for orders from the queen to propagate through pheromones.
Im not saying it makes sense, just that its the canon. I mean theres no way Newt should have been able to live in the ventilation shafts, that run throughout all of Hadley's hope, since the Xeno have a strong sense of smell, and would be able to smell her and catch her.
>Okay, what biomechanical function do they need oxygen for?
to maintain metabolic activity obviously. What the fuck do you think humans need oxygen for?
that's retarded, only oxygen-carbon and oxygen-hydrogen burning is energetic enough to keep a monster like that going. it's more likely that they can adapt to different levels of oxygen and filter out other harmful gasses
>to maintain metabolic activity obviously. What the fuck do you think humans need oxygen for?
Do humans have acid for blood?
the exact mechanism of transferring oxygen is less important than its function in the cell, that is burning with carbohydrates to power the organism. There is no other chemical reaction that can could sustain xenomorph's metabolism same way we don't see large organisms depending on sulphur reactions
First off, ATP is not produced just with carbohydrates unless you're talking of cancer cells, in which case you're not correct either because they produce energy anaerobically using fermentation. Regular cells can utilise either glucose or ketones for energy.
Second, it's much more likely that the aliens function as some sort of a battery. Which would again explain why they always tend to make their nests near power generators, why they don't show up on thermal and why they can operate in a perfect vacuum or underwater.
>ATP is not produced just with carbohydrates
>lists two carbohydrates
ignoring that retarded point you still need oxygen to burn it. Anaerobic metabolism is much less efficient and again could not sustain a xenomorph's body
If you mean the larger group of all CH compounds, then say hydrocarbon. Carbohydrate in scientific literature generally means saccharides.
Anaerobic metabolism is much less efficient, true, but it's also how xenomorphs function. You try to reconcile those two facts if you for some reason can't accept the explanation of them working as batteries.
they clearly need oxygen though, since they can't survive in vacuum forever
I'm not so sure. They can likely survive the eventual dissipation of heat through radiation, judging by how many times they've been fully incased in ice and then defrosted in the various films, and if their pressurised exoskeleton can keep their fluids from boiling, they could theoretically survive indefinitely by going into a very deep hibernation.
except the aliens move around in vacuum pretty often without any issues. the alien in alien didn't show any problems at all being put in the vacuum, the alien queen in aliens even manage to scream in space, the alien 3 one survives being inside molten metal(I forgot what kind of metal) and only seems to have gotten angry from it. in alien isolation the drones follow you out into space and seem more interested in eating you then trying to survive. the eggs survive on LV246 and at the time it didn't have a life sustaining atmosphere (alien), in alien out of the shadows(I might mix the audio dramas together), a bunch of aliens survive being locked in a short range shuttle for days. and also again live on a non-life bearing planet. I think there is more instances of aliens being in vacuum but I can't think of them at the top of my head.
>the alien 3 one survives being inside molten metal(I forgot what kind of metal) and only seems to have gotten angry from it.
lead, so not the hottest thing in the world, while obviously that would kill a normal animal, his core might not have heated up all THAT much by the time he got out of it. It's actually super hard to heat something well insulated up fast just by dumping something hot on it.
In other words, there's a universe of difference between touching fire, and being on fire.
Aren't these things bulletproof? Pulse rifle ammo was explosive tipped 10mm light armor piercing, took a bunch of hits to take them down.
No, but if you shoot it it's going to get acid blood everywhere.
>Aren't these things bulletproof?
No? Why would they be?
Hell in Alien 1 that little fucking harpoon, which is blunt at the front and can't be moving more than 400fps actually cracks through the Alien's exoskeleton.
it took like singular rounds to their head to instantly have it explode violently all over the room, it was their speed and numbers that made them so dangerous. The marines absolutely kill a bunch of them throughout the movie it's just barely making a dent in their overall numbers.
In Aliens they're using a 10mm high explosive armour piercing round, and they still have to hose them. Pistols and shotguns are shown to only work at point blank range.
In the other Aliens media, earlier weapons have negligible effect.
Did anyone score a kill on an adult Xenomorph with 21st century weapons in all of AVP 1 or 2? It looked like everyone was just plinking at them to no effect.
>Pistols and shotguns are shown to only work at point blank range
Guns don’t lose their effectiveness after a few feet. If a pistol does damage, a rifle easily can at hundreds or yards
I don't know how much stronger you "think" shotguns and pistols are at "point blank" range but the difference is basically nothing.
The fact is, and always will be, that a shotgun from the 1800s was able to not only pierce a xenomorphs skull, but do so AFTER punching through all the meat in it's head.
Basic bitch non armor piercing 5.56 will punch through five IIIA vests, a single IIIA vest would stop every single shotgun shell Hicks was carrying. A IIA Vest will stop buckshot for Christ's sake.
>and they still have to hose them
anon the guns shoots like 1400 rpm and has a 99 round magazine, "hosing" them is pointing it at one for like 1 second of sustained fire and hitting it like 23 times
the was TOO MANY of them
So thats why hamas stole bulldozer
Is that to shit on the enemy soldiers?
Using a Thales F90 with rails and an ACOG ofc!
Those hard nipples are stronger, mate.
It's called a smart gun.
Blunt polearms.
you're gunna die so fucking fast lmao, nigga wants to fight the universes most dangerous apex predator with a stick
bravey or retarded, I do not know
>universes most dangerous apex predator with a stick
>blocks your path
they're removed from the food chain, like us, they have to go out of their way to find things to kill that are the most challenging
its like one of us hunting a wild full sized starving lion with nothing but some knives and a spear.. maybe a sling and some nice river stone to replace the plasma caster
>they're removed from the food chain, like us,
Agreed. But “ultimate apex predator” makes it sound like Xenomorphs are better than anything else. They aren’t.
They can copy some of the best parts from whatever apex predator, that gets face hugged.
Ok. They still die to guns and explosives and heavy machinery.
So would a T-Rex, doesn't change the fact that they are extremely lethal predators
>ultimate apex predator” makes it sound like Xenomorphs are better than anything else. They aren’t.
What part of this don’t you get? I’m not saying they aren’t deadly. I’m not saying they can’t kill or be effective. I am saying that humans and our weapons can kill them without issue.
Im not disagreeing with you. The point im trying and probably failing to make is that, is that the xenomorphs are meant to allways be superior to its host race. Humanity is just lucky enough, that our race evolved in the one direction Xeno's havent been able to copy. Intelligenc, which has allowed us to make countermeasures and weapons that can compensate for our other weaknesses. But against any other predator(With the exeption of Pradators) the Xeno's will inevitably win.
Yeah Aliens, makes it quite clear that the soldiers use Sharp Sticks. not blunt ones
You roll in mud so they can't see you with their heat vision
>that one Anon black guy who gets killed first
>that one Anon who gets siphoned off the vents
>that one Anon who breaks off from the group to explore a bit and get himself killed
>that one Anon who won't look up or down and gets ambushed
>that one Anon who gets ganked but still managing to brush off the attack but gets sprayed by acid blood
>that one Anon gets immediate PTSD after seeing his buddy killed and becomes neurotic all throughout the ordeal
>that one Anon who gets facehugged and spawns another ayylmao
>that one Anon who drops his gear by accident, picks it up with sticky saliva and then gets killed
>that one Anon who runs far ahead of the group and gets killed
>that one Anon who gets captured and cocooned
>that one Anon who is in charge of fixing stuff and gets killed just before he manages to fix said stuff
What about the anon who crawls 180 meters through conduit to an uplink terminal?
I don't think a single one of us is guiding a ship through an ion storm with like 5% visibility, crawling through the pipe is easy though
honestly Bishop is the best character if they didn't have him they are ALL dead... fucking androids are either the saviors or actively sabotaging the mission lmao
Bishop encountered ayys inside the tube, any human would get immediately claustrophobic, cause a scene and get ayy'd immediately.
>How are you supposed to defend yourself in this situation
Good compensation for the situation
Right
SIG-Sauer MCX-SPEAR in .277 FURY?
Undersling a 40mm blooper with hornet rounds, in case that doesn't work.
Failing that, give everyone para LMGs and use them like battle rifles.
Also issue those German rechargeable one-shot flamethrowers.
If a femoid could beat it, so could anyone.
>b-but
I don't care that the plot has it kill men to make it not seem as pathetic as it is. Realistically a femoid would be the first to die in any threatening situation because women are weak and stupid.
Use your ranged weapons at range. Too close and you'll likely get sprayed by acid blood.
If they get in melee range, youre pretty much fucked. Theyre taller, stronger and faster than you with multiple ways of attacking. If you have an acid-resistant weapon (and hopefully armor) you can fend off 1. But when even the Predator has trouble fighting them off melee, you'll have a tough fight.
Also keep in mind that they are pressurized, so more likely than not theyll explode a little. So give them a very wide berth.
>Also keep in mind that they are pressurized, so more likely than not theyll explode a little
what the fuck, is this new lore?
Terminally online guys who argue who would win in sci fi battles insist that the Xenos must be pressurized because of how much their blood splashes when they're shot, rather than just accepting that blood splatter in movies isn't realistic.
That's because they are using exploding rounds. They literally say this.
I know, I know, but they pretend not to know that until it comes time to argue that the Pulse rifle is "like, actually even stronger than a 50BMG because it like, blows up and would explode your whole body"
or some shit.
>If you have an acid-resistant weapon
Why would this matter unless it’s a melee weapon? Sure it’s acid blood can dissolve copper and lead but not in the milliseconds the bullet passes through
The answer is never not going to be a 5.56mm M4 unless you’re going up against the Terminator or a Kaiju. Any half decent LAM with NODs and a COTI, and the Xeno will be more worried about you taking their Xenussy than you’ll be worried about how to kill them.
I would have an intense session of lovemaking with it and then make it my wife and grow old together on rocking chairs knitting sweaters or something.
What weapon, available today, would you carry to kill this guy?
I'm white I'll be okay. AI only hates non-whites
Explosives and anti-material weapons. Honestly, the sequels dropped the ball by portraying terminators as near indestructible. T1 shows the T800 as a cunning infiltrator that knows when the odds aren't in its favor, e.g. after the car crash when the cops show up.
Harpoons with explosive tips
Trash compactor or really any explosive im the greater than or equal to dynamite stick range would work
okay im woefully disappointed by the answers here in this thread. Heres the Sgt.AssClaper's guide to killing Xenonaggers:
Step 1. Dont be stupid, and don't underestimate your opponent.
Step 2. Stay in the open as much as possible, they do not have range, range is your ally.
step 3. Metal before meat, especially because any flesh is sustenance and breeding material for the enemy
step 4. Area of effect weapons, explosive, chemical weapons, artillery, carpet bomibng, nukes, suicide drone, etc.. fuck off with tanks, and rifles
step 5. environmental destruction. Think of how the halo rings change their weather to contain the flood. Forest fires, unit 738 bio weapons, whatever the fuck we got.
the point is to deny them meat from which they can multiply, and energy. Xeno's are more efficient than we will ever be. but the advantage we do have is range, range we can use to stay the fuck away from them.
situation in which you have none of these.
step 1. give up, and suicide your ships nuclear core. Or use whatever high energy fuel your transport you took to get into this fucked situation as tool to destroy all biological matter, i.e. set as much shit on fire as possible, including yourself
if the uber aryan chads couldn't beat them neither can you
We need a movie of these guys fully geared up and armed purging xenomorphs.
Theres a comic where on or more of the Engineers wake up, and just starts pummelling shit
The space aryans never seemed to think of space OSHA, then again neither did any of the humans. Maybe the strong nuclear force in the setting makes all life retarded.
All scfi settings require humans to be retards to lose, even if the aliens are super duper advanced they are often retards in how they apply their technology or just outright weaker weapon systems humans could develop even today without any restrictions like casaba howitzers. It's mostly written by libtards or israelites so what do you expect?
Except for The Thing, that creature is bullshit and we're doomed no matter what. And not because of "muh global warming" libtards would no doubt make a topical plot point but because the ice is flowing toward the sea and when a chunk of it gets eaten by a starfish in 200k years the ocean turns into a stew of intestines, dogheads, and tentacles. Also either there is entire ecosystem of cell devouring creatures which can defend themselves from one another somewhere and some retard picked one up or some retard made it as a weapon and then once again didn't think to invent OSHA. And that was based on a pulp novela from the 30s when non-homosexuals still wrote scifi and got widely published.
The Thing at least seems to require some kind of critical mass to really take anything over. The fact that his cells could, in some limited way, attack other cells apparently doesn't let him exponentially continue this process, there must be some limiting factor that stopped him from just breathing or spitting on everyone and infecting them that way. Similarly the dead dogs did not spontaneously mutate even after days or hours.
While the humans fear a subtle infection, the Thing, who acts very intelligently throughout the entire movie and is *aware* of that fear, acts as though it is impossible.
>Space OSHA
The whole plot of the original could have been avoided if the crew followed Ripley's advice
Ripley was right all along. But that wouldn't have stopped Ash from breaking quarantine.
458. Socom maybe... Idk man. Give it a hug and a kiss???
The James Cameron version of aliens are total bitches who can be killed with a single bullet. A gun out of acid blood range should do the trick.
>The James Cameron version of aliens
Alien- A grappling hook moving well under the speed of sound punches through his exoskeleton
Aliens- an 1800s shotgun blows a huge hole through one's head
Alien 3- Non applicable
Alien 4- Every gun and grenade fragment punches straight through them, including shotguns
AVP- a piton launcher that cant penetrate ten inches of ice punches all the way through one's head, (OH BUT HE HAD CUTS ON HIS HEAD IT'S NOT FAIR)
AVPR- 5.56 blows right through them
Alien Covenant- the Proto Xenomorph or whatever the fuck gets fucked by the only rifle that shoots it.
Punch it in the face like Dillon did at the end of Alien 3
Would having a pace maker, annoy a chestburster while it is gestating inside you?
This thing made super quick work of dispatching them. Just grab their attention and plow over them - the Xenos it killed were trying to attack it so it's clear they didn't have any sort of awareness that it was fucking them up left and right and just kept on coming.
>perfect killing weaponized organism
>kills like 5 space trucker hicks who never got a chance to discuss the bonus situation
>dies to a female space trucker
>perfect killing weaponized organism
>requires 2 stage/different organisms to reach maturity
>requires host organism to reach maturity
>requires host organism with specific size constraints to gestate
garbage, only thing it has going for it is dormancy ability otherwise they'd all die out before something stumbled near a facehugger
Its strength is its versatility as a parasitic predator. It copies parts from its victims, and fully mature within a day or two.
I would fuck it
In the earth war book they said that shotgun slugs just put a dent in their exoskeleton, and the ones in aliens were all being blasted with 10mm armor piercing explosive tipped caseless fictional ammo. Pistol rounds were just bouncing off them and the only shotgun kill was when hicks put the muzzle in an aliens mouth. I'm assuming 5.56 would be fairly effective, probably anything over 2000 fps would be effective
Vasquez and Gorman had a 9mm and was killed ayys with it on medium and short range.
>the muzzle in an aliens mouth
nagger skulls aren't weaker from the inside.
>>NUKE THEM FROM ORBIT
"Game Over, man"