How am I supposed to defend myself against wolves

I want to do overnight camping (it's illegal here and the few forests are covered with trails but I've seen people do it, even in this densely populated shithole, so I'm willing to make that bet).
Only problem is that the wolf is back in this country (Netherlands) and I do not think I am able to defend myself against one, at least not without having to go to the hospital. I'm 6'4 and 210lbs but I still am not confident enough in being able to fight one. Is this a legitimate risk? What can I do to prevent encounters? What do I do when I encounter one? How can I defend myself during an attack?
People camp in bear or mountain lion country often enough so maybe I shouldn't even be so scared of these things, but if I'm camping alone under nothing but a tarp, I don't want to be their morning snack.

Otherwise just share stories about wolves or camping in the Netherlands/Germany/Belgium.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Its much more likely you'll get torn open by a feral hog. Anyways, just learn to use a gun, crossbow, and hog spear. Confindence in the use of those weapons will teach you what you actually need when PrepHole.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have encountered wolves while camping near the czech boarder in germany. Having said that they really are your smallest concern, hogs are a much bigger problem like said and even then the chance, that one will actually charge you is miniscule, as long as you dont act like a complete moron. If you still feel the need to carry a weapon the most potent one that you can easily get your hands on would be a Saufeder (Boar Spear), if thats to bulky bring a Saufänger (Boar Knife), thats what i do. You propably wont escape unharmed, but you will kill the hog and propably get away with your life. Carry a proper trauma kit when in hog country. Even better: bring a gun. Most important of all: Dont act like a moron. Dont sneak through the forest, make noise, they will naturally try and stay away from the apex predator if they know where you are.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Europe
        >guns

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that is also a concern I've heard of, but they are relatively tame here because humans are moronic and feed them. They can still weigh a shitton and I've seen videos of them chasing away wolves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cy7y1uFLcM

      As for the guns, you will get arrested for having a replica gun that shoots blanks here. Crossbows equally illegal, hog spear, no idea, generally our law states that anything that can be used with the intent of harming another human is forbidden. Even in self defense situations, using anything other than a kitchen knife will probably land you in jail, they will probably even argue that your makeshift wooden spear should be counted as a deadly weapon.

      Tbh I didn't know going PrepHole in the Netherlands was even possible.

      It is, but it's hard, zoom in on all the red areas and you'll see there are paths which carve into every piece of forest. The most secluded areas will have you 400 yards away from the closest trail and they're relatively intensively used. Here's a channel with wildcamping video's in the Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUHIEUJVUM

      I have encountered wolves while camping near the czech boarder in germany. Having said that they really are your smallest concern, hogs are a much bigger problem like said and even then the chance, that one will actually charge you is miniscule, as long as you dont act like a complete moron. If you still feel the need to carry a weapon the most potent one that you can easily get your hands on would be a Saufeder (Boar Spear), if thats to bulky bring a Saufänger (Boar Knife), thats what i do. You propably wont escape unharmed, but you will kill the hog and propably get away with your life. Carry a proper trauma kit when in hog country. Even better: bring a gun. Most important of all: Dont act like a moron. Dont sneak through the forest, make noise, they will naturally try and stay away from the apex predator if they know where you are.

      What was the wolves demeanor? Did they run away when they saw you? Or were they curious and stayed to look at you from a distance.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it was at night and i woke up from the noise they made. Some howling, a very wierd kind of barking (similar to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icDObrsrNr4) and the branches breaking beneath their feet. There were at least two aproximately 30-50m from my camp. and they moved in a half circle around me to get out of my way. Whole encounter took less then 5min. Seemed they wanted even less to do with me, then i with them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nice details on the trees. I like it

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              im glad you appreciate my artisanship

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's legal to own a crossbow and shoot it at your own land or a club just can't bring it to the forest.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I figured that out as well recently, seen 50 caliber airguns that are completely legal too. Bit of a weird loophole in the law since firearms are illegal but I don't care.

          And one more thing, the chances of you running into a wolf are almost 0. I'm an ecology student in Wageningen so I'd love to see a wolf, I live close to areas where there are wolves and I regularly go for walks around those areas, and I have never run into a wolf. The closest thing I ever saw were tracks. I did see plenty of wild boar and deer, but never wolves.

          figured I'd ask on the off chance it would happen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have encountered wolves while camping near the czech boarder in germany. Having said that they really are your smallest concern, hogs are a much bigger problem like said and even then the chance, that one will actually charge you is miniscule, as long as you dont act like a complete moron. If you still feel the need to carry a weapon the most potent one that you can easily get your hands on would be a Saufeder (Boar Spear), if thats to bulky bring a Saufänger (Boar Knife), thats what i do. You propably wont escape unharmed, but you will kill the hog and propably get away with your life. Carry a proper trauma kit when in hog country. Even better: bring a gun. Most important of all: Dont act like a moron. Dont sneak through the forest, make noise, they will naturally try and stay away from the apex predator if they know where you are.

      Does bear mace work against wolves or hogs?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh I didn't know going PrepHole in the Netherlands was even possible.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      motto this country lives by, if the cops don't see it.
      then there is nothing to worry about.
      but if they do, oh man you are in for some bureaucracy.
      sadly this applies to more than going PrepHole

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >motto this country lives by, if the cops don't see it.
        This anon is right, am a dutchman, one day I got so tired of eating potatoes I went hiding under a windmill in a tulip field, under the starry night I knocked a hiker out with my clog and cooked him on my camping stove with magic mushrooms from the grocery store on the side. If I've been doing that for years I imagine It's perfectly safe to come wild camping in the Netherlands as long as you don't get caught.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yea thats pretty cool that they have any nature left and even national parks.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wel gotta be honest with you, most of what we have left is there for a reason, and it's generally not for the civvies to enjoy

        For instance most of the coastal patches are watter filtration, and under the guise of nature reserve the government gets cops to patrol the areas (Staatsbosbeheer boa's)
        And from what I remember form the military most of the Veluwe is pretty much the military's playground

        But i guess i should be happy, those 2 things preferent everything to be swallowed up buildings

        And i get to play hide and seek with the gov

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Wildcamping is legal if you don't get caught. Boas can't patrol 1000 square kms of Veluwe at night.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They don't patrol anywhere at night that isn't a popular tourist attraction, near a road or near a densely populated area. Thank god I live near that long, thin stretch of forest in the southeast (Maasduinen). I can camp whenever I want, just set up after sundown and don't bring anything reflective.
            Also, if any animals start making noise around your camp, just make a loud noise to spook them.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Wtf maasduinbro on PrepHole, I live right next to it on the other side of the Maas near Broekhuizen

              19 year old guy into PrepHole, if u wanna hang out or do some air rifle shooting hmu

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >19 year old guy
                Don't take this the wrong way, but it would be hella creepy for a 33 year old guy to suddenly visit you at your parents house.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Are u moronic it's illegal for a reason in all dense population countries go with your 1 month of vacation to Scandinavia or albania

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t be silly. OP doesn’t work.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >go with your 1 month of vacation to Scandinavia
      >implying you can afford a holiday trip to Scandinavia as a wagecuck in 2022
      every day I think suicide is the only vacation worth having

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Take it European take it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Went to Scandinavia last summer for a week as a poor student.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he wants to camp in the wild not stay at like 5 star hotels in the capitol?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Scandinavia is fully packed anyway, no food, no wilderness, just people everywhere, pure suffering

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          A country the size of New England with 10 million people and you're saying there's not a single place without people for miles?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              ok.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit I knew Denmark wasn't super densely populated but that's insane

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >1-4
                WHY DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT ROOM AVAILABLE. SWEDEANON YOU SAID YOU WERE FULL, YOU LIAR. HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME, I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS, I THOUGHT SCANDINAVIAN PEOPLE WERE HONORABLE

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We are full, frick right off

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >t. Abdul
                post hand

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Whitest man in all of Sweden

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ALL THAT ROOM AVAILABLE
                There's a reason why those places aren't populated, because it's all mountain. Notice how all the cities, especially in Norway, are on the coast where there are little mountains

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >vacation to Scandinavia
      frick off we're full

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wolves don't usually bother humans, maybe cuz of size maybe cuz of racial memory and remembering getting fricked, who knows. If you do have to handle a wolf though it won't just be one.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just wear a fursuit anon. You'll become the majestic alpha male or the pack (or alpha female, your choice UwU)

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm 6'4 and 210lbs but I still am not confident enough in being able to fight one
    A wolf is not going to attack you. A pack of wolves might, but is still highly unlikely and at that point you’re not gonna be able to fight them. A flare or loud noise like a gunshot should be enough to spook them though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good god the absolute state of 21st century yurop
      You are not going to get attacked by wolves. You’re not in siberia in the dead of winter in the middle of their nest with a broken leg. You can’t trust movies to inform your view of nature, anon.

      >defend myself against one
      a single wolf will never attack you and you'll never even see him skedaddle when he sees you
      stop being a vegana
      t.Bulgarian (we have both wolves and bears)

      Thanks for the advice, guess it shouldn't be much of a concern.

      >1-4
      WHY DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT ROOM AVAILABLE. SWEDEANON YOU SAID YOU WERE FULL, YOU LIAR. HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME, I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS, I THOUGHT SCANDINAVIAN PEOPLE WERE HONORABLE

      They need that space for more social housing for the new swedes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >They need that space for more social housing for the new swedes.
        I thought the enriched people were getting the nicer warmer parts of the country so they wouldn't be cold? Are swedes racist?!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/oZQMVzH.jpg

        I want to do overnight camping (it's illegal here and the few forests are covered with trails but I've seen people do it, even in this densely populated shithole, so I'm willing to make that bet).
        Only problem is that the wolf is back in this country (Netherlands) and I do not think I am able to defend myself against one, at least not without having to go to the hospital. I'm 6'4 and 210lbs but I still am not confident enough in being able to fight one. Is this a legitimate risk? What can I do to prevent encounters? What do I do when I encounter one? How can I defend myself during an attack?
        People camp in bear or mountain lion country often enough so maybe I shouldn't even be so scared of these things, but if I'm camping alone under nothing but a tarp, I don't want to be their morning snack.

        Otherwise just share stories about wolves or camping in the Netherlands/Germany/Belgium.

        they really aren't, also trees are a thing.

        or could just be me being out/ near the coast of the Netherlands, the foxes just start sitting beside me if im looking at the deer for wildlife pictures, if that's anything to go by i dont thing the wolves will be strollin in here like they own the place.

        also general reminder that by dutch law, bow's are not weapons, just tips slicing parts.
        (not an endorsement of carrying a bow for self defense or hunting without proper training)
        and the fricking cops don't know shit about the weapons law here. at least around the coast

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Crossbows and bows are legal but only to be shot on private terrain. I don't know if you would be allowed to use it in a self defense situation.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good god the absolute state of 21st century yurop
    You are not going to get attacked by wolves. You’re not in siberia in the dead of winter in the middle of their nest with a broken leg. You can’t trust movies to inform your view of nature, anon.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >defend myself against one
    a single wolf will never attack you and you'll never even see him skedaddle when he sees you
    stop being a vegana
    t.Bulgarian (we have both wolves and bears)

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wolves in Belgium run the frick away when they see you. They are scared shitless of you. Some lonely goat might get it though.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    get your own pack

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Research loom and send two villagers

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wolves do not attack humans

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Wolves do not attack humans
      Not a factual statement. It doesnt happen very often - especially in N. America- but it does happen- moreso in Europe and Central Asia

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because wolves know whites are their alphas from millenia together

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          shut the frick up you fricking moron.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What? Is camping illegal in all of the Netherlands?

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Being afraid of wolf attacks in the Netherlands is like bringing a fire extinguisher to a skiing trip.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Being afraid of wolf attacks in the Netherlands is like bringing a fire extinguisher to a skiing trip.
      Keep in mind that the great majority of Europe and Scandinavia had been without wolves (or any large predatory mammal) for many decades. They have no idea how to react to the return of the legendary apex predator, predecessor to our greatest animal ally.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm from northern Germany and we have the same problem here. What I do is bring a bluetooth speaker with me and for the first night I stay awake and play sounds of sheep (there is a 10 hour version on youtube) while I hide and wait for wolves to show up. When they come I look out for the one that approaches the speaker first, he is the alpha wolf and the only one you should worry about. Once they are close I jump out, wrestle the alpha to the ground and than violenty rape him while keeping his head/neck under control. When he stops howling you know he has accepted you as the new alpha and you won't have to worry about wolves bothering you for the remainder of your stay.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wolves are harmless, if they smell, see or hear you they'll take off immediately. Some moronic photographers encircled a bunch of wolves recently and they didn't even get attacked.

    Also walking around with a spear, crossbow or gun here is illegal, so don't do any of that. You should be fine to camp, just clean your shit up after you, and if you want to camp legally, thanks to krautism if you go to germany and just use a tarp and hammock setup it's sort of legal.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    And one more thing, the chances of you running into a wolf are almost 0. I'm an ecology student in Wageningen so I'd love to see a wolf, I live close to areas where there are wolves and I regularly go for walks around those areas, and I have never run into a wolf. The closest thing I ever saw were tracks. I did see plenty of wild boar and deer, but never wolves.

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