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250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

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250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ow my balls

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >haha yeah we always needed the hoses to help get our boys out of those ;^)
    jesus the b-17 survival rates particularly for belly gunners were fricking brutal, like holy shit what job.
    >whoops landing gear stuck
    >whoops need to do a crash field/water landing
    >sorry billy!
    🙁

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      couldn't they just point the turret straight down and climb into the plane? am I confusing it with some other plane?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kinda hard to pull off when the plane is doing cartwheels towards the ground.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          funny

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When the plane is in the air, yes. Not on the ground, the gun barrels won't allow it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jesus the b-17 survival rates particularly for belly gunners were fricking brutal, like holy shit what job
      Actually it wasn't that bad, opposed being a tail gunner. That said you're still inside a glass bubble with no elbow room and no parachute.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neat. do we know the proportion of kills each position got?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ball and tail got the most - tail early war, ball overall. Ball was powered, and eventually got a reflector gunsite - plus it had the greatest coverage to eliminate incoming fighters. Germans got keen and started attacking from below - as rear was suicidal and on high attacks were spotted early and able to be engaged by top, waist, tail and navigator guns.

          Ball turret was most advanced turret and the Germans paid dearly in climbing attacks because of it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            frontal attacks despite being much more difficult to pull off were also by far most effective though. wienerpit and engine were more likely to be hit and the insane rate of closure made it nearly impossible for guns to hit incoming fighters difficult. Threat from the front is why the B-17G received the chin turret.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neat. do we know the proportion of kills each position got?

        >Misleading Statistical Results of Dr. Palmer's Medical Research.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        amazing how long this fuddlore has survived
        you could always get out of the turret in a B17, it wasn't retractable the way the B-24's was and thus it was permanently attached to the fuselage

        Black Thursday alone saw around a 25% loss rate anons. Just the second Schweinfurt raid by itself. Out of ~290 bombers they outright lost 60 and another 15-20 or so were badly damaged enough to just be scrap, with 121 more damaged to lesser but often still severe degrees. Men were the same, around 1/4 (600) KIA, then another 110ish either WIA or POWs.

        Yeah they got somewhat smarter than that over time, but only because that was obvious to everyone as absolutely and utterly unsustainable losses. Getting through the entire 25 mission tour of duty alive, let alone uninjured, was not nothing and not fuddlore.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the fuddlore is around the ball turret dumbass, not bomber losses

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >25% loss rate
          Not high enough

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think I’d still rather be in the tail gun. At least that way I probably won’t see my death coming. Whereas if the ball turret gets stuck, you’ve got the rest of the flight knowing that you’re gonna get squished.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          here's that famous fuddlore I was talking about...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s fuddlore that mechanical things break

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >won't see your death coming
          the problem with tail gunners wasn't particularly getting shot, but it was if the plane starts going down, you're glued to the ass end of the plane and can't actually escape because they didn't start putting doors in the rear until later

          or so the tale goes

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's why you have a pistol.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >german airforce at that point had already switched to the MK108 30mm HE autocannon for 4 years
        >not even on the paper

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The percentages for the number of people killed at each station seem wrong, e.g:
        >tail gunner: killed; 19 percentage; 7.3%
        >radio operator: killed; 8 percentage; 7.3%
        >waist gunner: killed; 21 percentage; 19%

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      amazing how long this fuddlore has survived
      you could always get out of the turret in a B17, it wasn't retractable the way the B-24's was and thus it was permanently attached to the fuselage

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mega autist US WW2 Bombers on youtube has dispelled this
      Ball gunner was the 2nd safest place to be on bombers
      Co-Pilot was the safest
      Most dangerous by far was tail gunner

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mega autist US WW2 Bombers
        God that guy has such a stereotypical “nerd” voice you couldn’t make it up if you tried. Treasure trove of information though.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thats what makes him so good
          its not gay screechy onions voice like most other miltubers

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Radio was most dangerous. Not the radioman, the radio itself.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Deploy the Funker-zestorer!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure the 8th Air Force lost more men than the entire USMC.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It did.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not a problem:

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That episode was certified kino.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A reference has never been more lost on me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Spielberg telly thing. moron tier sophistication writing. We all watched it, it was the best thing on, next to The Love Boat and Family Ties. Crap TV decades.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I loved that episode and for years thought it was the Memphis Belle movie. I know it isn't but what was it from?
        >Amazing stories Episode 5
        Will be looking that up, thanks anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s statistically one of the safest gunner positions

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >safest position in the bomber
    don't mind if I di

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gimp mask
      underrated post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Perfection

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flight crews that survived ww2 without being shot down or seriously injured, 24%.
    You literally had a greater than 3/4 chance of getting royally fricked and they still volunteered.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ball turrets are tougher than you think

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the tail wheel did all the work there.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      way better than I would have thought, but it's clearly not a fully gear-up landing. Left wheel is down. I'm guessing right collapsed at some point during the landing.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How to get in and out of the ball turret from inside the plane

    I don't see any of them getting out quick enough to parachute to safety if they lost control of the plane.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like that the ball turret trainer is in original condition. Very cool.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember seeing a WW2 training video with a tiny, popular actor training for this position. Maybe it was Mickey Rooney or somebody

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >co-pilot safest position
      Alright class, what did we learn in statistics?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His entire job is to die last, so that sort of makes sense

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He truly is the woman

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that you arent likely to be hit if you sit in the front
        probably because a head-on attack was likely to result in the attacker crashing into the bomber
        and the chin turret in later models meant the front position was even less likely to be attacked in the first place

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >that you arent likely to be hit if you sit in the front
          Good effort, but wouldn't you expect other positions in the front of the plane to experience similar casualty rates if this was the case?

          His entire job is to die last, so that sort of makes sense

          You're on the right track.

          Bomber statistics are a common example used to explain survivorship bias. Pilots are last on that list because without flight control it's likely the entire plane is catastrophically lost and records of which crew are injured during flight are lost.
          As for why there is a gap between the pilot and co-pilot I'm not as sure about but I would guess it has something to do with the pilot being last in the bail out sequence since he would be responsible for keeping the plane steady in it's last moments.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a gap between co pilot and pilot because German doctrine was to attack from the 10-11 O'clock position, Co-Pilot is on the right

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            read the novels of german fighter aces. they went specifically for the pilot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see him anywhere. Where is he hiding?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          saddam hussein

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I call the Sadam spot directly behind this guy so he can feel how painfully aroused I get when we're killing the germans

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          give me saddam give me saddam

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          rollin

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          roll

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Give me dorsal turret, roll

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tough luck, homie, you get to watch countless radios die agonizing deaths.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          roll

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hope I don't die

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder why the radio operator is so susceptible to fatigue.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lots of talking but low oxygen

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Combat fatigue" means PTSD-related emotional breakdown which was quite reasonably very common.

        BTW after the war thousands of vets disappeared into the old mental institution system and that's much of why the idea WWII had less PTSD exists. Others just dealt with it how they could. My father was Army (ground combat at Aachen etc) and had blackouts after the war. He didn't go into detail but they were not booze related.

        A radio operator would have heard some terrifying shit as bombers reported damage etc. Many a mans last words would have been screamed into a throat mic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He grew to know too much

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >has no parachute
      >most susceptible to death in bailouts

      That checks out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They eventually started giving the poor guy chest parachutes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >navagator
      is that spelling a thing?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no. before miniaturized computing, later production (post 43) b-17s used a alligator brain as part of the navigation system. instruments were wired into a magnetically sensitive region of an alligators brain called the magentocephalus. look it up, one of the crazier inventions of ww2. the term "crocodile hunter" came from german luftwaffe pilots who became adept at targeting parts of the navagator

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Greased Geese

    the gunner is stored in the balls

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I've learned anything, the radio operator is safe but the radio is damned.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine ripping a FAT FART. It know these things weren’t pressurized but I don’t wanna know what it would be like to fart in my own face. Or shart in your own face.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I imagine experiencing a .50 cal shooting this close to your face permanently alters you?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry I'm not a manlet

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is some of the worst CGI I have ever seen in my life..

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right? Early PS3-era CGI cutscene. Hell, even the Killzone 2 bullshot teaser that was entirely in CGI looked almost better than this.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i really don't get it either, this is an HBO series, also good CGI isn't even expensive anymore.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that shot looked like ass. Rest of it was fine or even good except for Biddick. I don’t think the budget for this is anything like the Pacific. I also don’t think they really need it. Get a couple planes, do interior shots and cgi the rest.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is some of the worst CGI I have ever seen in my life..

      I thought this was an old video game. This is a new show? LMAO.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And people seriously compare THIS to BoB or the pacific?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is all CG getting outsourced to india now or what? Seems like in the past 12 months in particular the quality of this shit in movies has absolutely fricking nosedived. Just saw Ferrari the other night and anything CG was fricking youtuber-tier.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The strike fricked up a lot of productions.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OH N-

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok.
      I've seen worse (in 2000s, but still)

      Is all CG getting outsourced to india now or what? Seems like in the past 12 months in particular the quality of this shit in movies has absolutely fricking nosedived. Just saw Ferrari the other night and anything CG was fricking youtuber-tier.

      Indonesia is more popular from what I understand

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally on par with this shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh my god I thought this was one of those pajeet vaporware quadracopter everything videos at first

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dafugg did I just watch?!?!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ferrari's attempt at a self wank movie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CGI money got reallocated to gabbagool.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like a flying ragdoll in Skyrim.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Postal delivery to High Hrothgar.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The more diversity is forced onto entertainment, the lower quality if becomes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ferrari's attempt at a self wank movie.

        Ferrari Destination?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh man, were they ok?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they all lived

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        movie?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >m-m-m-monster kill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally on par with this shit

      good day sirs

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >0:15
      I sincerely doubt a B-17 turret could rotate this fast.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One thing that annoys me, especially in these clips, is the "large fires emanating from places with no flammables". Seeing what looks like a massive fuel tank fire coming from the outboard wing of a 109 is incredibly distracting.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Plane gets hit and catches on fire
      >Does a clockwise spin for some reason
      Does Hollywood know how aerophysics work?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be pilot
        >suddenly be on fire
        >while reacting appropriately to this new and unexpected situation, stomp on the left rudder pedal
        The bigger question I have is why there's massive gouts of fire coming from the wienerpit and waist windows

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          American pilots lube themselves in oil before going into combat.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >From the journal of Sir Henry Sinclair, Captain, Royal Air Force
            >I have just arrived at an American bomber squadron, based several miles outside of Cambridge and found myself quite taken aback.
            >Upon my inspection of one of the American Fortress bombers my worries were magnified tenfold. My guide, a young local boy of fifteen, showed me to one of the resting aircraft. Upon entering it, I found myself nearly slipping upon an lubricating oil slick on the floor of the aircraft. Cursing at whatever careless mechanic had left this hazard, I continued onward, only to discover the same slicks upon nearly every surface.
            >My confusion quickly turned to alarm as a voice, husky and strained, sounded from the ball turret the Yanks had devised. I hardly understood the words at first, as my shock took a moment to subside, but as I crouched down to rescue the man who had clearly been locked inside, perhaps as a prank by another cruel member of the base, they became clear.
            >"Lunch?" I heard, and paused. Inside the ball, instead of the slender and short frame I expected to see, was a bulbous man, his folds and fat filling the entire volume of the turret. His head, topped by grimy unkempt hair, turned up to face me, chins flopping as he did so. Again he asked: "Lunch?"
            >Shock and silence left me and I asked who he was, how he'd managed to fit himself in that gun, how long he'd been in there and more. The enourmous man made a motion that may have been a shrug under his rolls, "I'm the ball gunner. They built it around me, like the others. You bringing me lunch?"
            >My gaze left him and turned to face the waist windows to look upon the other bombers on the field. Under each ball turret sat a filthy bucket.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >while reacting appropriately to this new and unexpected situation, stomp on the left rudder pedal
          Doesn't work like that, anon. He would have rolled over before the doing a 360 turn. Stop trying to defend "Hollywood".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They clearly follow the Ork school of aerospace design where fuel lines are routed thriugh the wienerpit in case the pilot gets thirsty.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plane starts frisbeeing when it still has its vertical stabilizer and is still moving almost as fast as the rest of the formation
      They weren’t even trying when they made this wtf

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HE DIDN'T FLY SO GOOD

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every part of that looks like complete garbage, even the interior shots

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like bomb GAY doors open amirite

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Bomber Mafia should've been shot for fricking up fighter development, especially drop tanks.
    >Bro, just slap more guns on it!
    Frick off! Establish air supremacy first, then bomb the bastards.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It took years for the Allies to establish air supremacy and that was with all the compounding effects the bombing campaign had on the Luftwaffe and the attrition it sustained during the Defense of the Reich.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is criminal. The Chongqing bombing campaign should have let everyone know that bombers needed escorts. The Japs got a good escort fighter (the famous Zero) by 1940.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was there a dude in the turret?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would throw a man out of his turret before throwing the turret?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Manlet Sphere

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus, even Il-1946 looks better than this.

    Installing it again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do I add mods with the Steam version? Kinda annoying that I can't use all the SAS46 mods.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        an actual good question that I need to figure out. Hoping there is some guide in the Steam community forums.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the last thing a B17 crew hears before getting shot down

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which one was more dangerous to do, tail gunner or ball turret gunner?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's how he gets fricked at the gangbang too.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ftfy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      https://i.imgur.com/4crLvBG.jpg

      >safest position in the bomber
      don't mind if I di

      >while reacting appropriately to this new and unexpected situation, stomp on the left rudder pedal
      Doesn't work like that, anon. He would have rolled over before the doing a 360 turn. Stop trying to defend "Hollywood".

      Don't get me wrong, it's stupid and doesn't make sense. But the initial yawing could, not the beyblade action it ends up being

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What did other countries think of American ball turrets?
    Did anyone else try to copy them or make their own ball turrets?

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dude the CGI in BoB (2001) looked better, Memphis Belle (1990) looked better,
    fricking War Thunder looks better,
    why are pajeets like that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Memphis Belle used 8 flyable B17s to work with

  35. 4 weeks ago
    sage

    >face inches away from the receiver of two Browning .50 cal machine guns inside a tiny resonating box

    how fricking loud would that be?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every person who survived this crap was 99% deaf at the end. Imagine operating the turrets in a battleship. Lmao.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
    And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
    Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
    I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
    When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For European theater, ball gunner had the best survival rate. Worst was bombardier followed by pilot and radio man. Then navigator and tail. That's where the Germans shot most.

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