Holy shit this looks so much cooler than other western IFVs Posted on February 27, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Holy shit this looks so much cooler than other western IFVs
If you had told me ten years ago that Bradleys would be doing exactly what they were designed to do in Eastern Europe I would have called you a fucking retard. I cannot overstate how happy I am to see this happening
May you live in interesting times.
If you had told me a lot of things we take for granted now a year and 3 weeks ago I would have called you an idiot.
The idea of the war is so diplomatically and economically stupid even with a military victory in Kyiv that I honestly didn’t believe it would happen and that it was merely Putin trying to get a marginal diplomatic victory or pick off another piece of Ukraine. Then he gave his war aims speech and we saw just how deep banan hole goes…
>The idea of the war is so diplomatically and economically stupid even with a military victory in Kyiv that I honestly didn’t believe it would happen
Yeah, I've been following the whole thing loosely for a while (and even had a slight pro-Russia stance thanks to falling for some of their exported propaganda) and I thought they where just posturing again to maybe force some diplomatic agreement.
I remember a conversation with a friend on like the 17th of February last year where we agreed that actually invading is the dumbest thing he could do and that was under the assumption that Russia would actually be capable to fight this war properly.
Not to mention the knock on effects like my country Germany doing a cultural 180 and dropping a lot of our pacifism.
Strange fucking times we live in
Im even more happy to see fucking german tanks killing russians AGAIN in ukraine. Im still cant believe it.
wierd to see a column of tanks actually covering 360.
Bog standard in the west
>isn't covered in ERA
Pretty sure that the Ukranians will slap that Soviet ERA all over them.
She doesn't need cosmetic surgery. She's THICC enough as she is. 😉
isn't a CV-90 40 dakka-dakka
It's easily the worst looking western IFV. Not even top 5 I'm afraid.
Name a better-looking one. In fact name 5 better looking ones.
NTA, but I do have a soft-spot for the Sd.Kfz. 251/7 because it looks like someone turned a garden shed into a IFV.
>what if Gypsies stole a Nazi IFV and remodeled it into a caravan wagon
It employs the aesthetics of Wabi sabi, the aged, the repaired, the upgraded. Bradley contains a visual narrative that says "I have been everywhere, fought everyone, just for the taste of t-72."
Thank you Tricia Takanawa
I'm sorry anon. Got distracted looking at CV-90 pictures. What were you saying again?
The dicklet mobile, ladies and gents.
Oh no his shitty leftover 40mm cannons can’t lay down a base of fire
That's what MG's are for. If these two met in opposing sides, the Bradley would have a 25mm (fucking kek, unbelievable), unable to penetrate the CV-90 30 mm resistant APFSDS. The CV-90's oldest, weakest, most handicapped export version would still style a 30mm Bushmaster, enough to turn the a Bradley into Swiss cheese, since it sports the magnificent (holy fucking shit, have they really) 14.5mm resistant armor.
>shoots ATGM at you
All the infantry inside can carry ATGMs, retard.
Stop trying to find ways to compensate for your IFV being a dicklet that loves getting penetrated.
>needs multiple men that spend most of their time inside him to do stuff for him
It's like it's trying to be the stereotype of a Swedish femboy
>j…just dismount your infantry and deal with the pop up armor targets
kek no Every Bradley that’s ever been built has integrated atgms
>Look at my ATGM's!
>I've got the 2 or the 1.
>They are TOWs.
>I shoot them through a fucking wire.
>Please stay still for the next 2 minutes.
>No, please, don't auto fire with stabilization back at me.
>Y-you mean yours is 40mm?! That's just TOO BIG, Mr. Ifversson.
>I can barely handle a .50. That way you're gonna PENETRATE ME.
>OHHH MR. IFVERSSON! Your fire load is all INSIDE me!
TOWs aren’t wife guided anymore. The ones going to Ukraine are RF. That’s why their range doubled as well
>Oh shit there's an AFV, let's slowly dismount and get out the anti-ta---ACK
kek no. MGS are great but they don’t compare to high ROF 25mm. Miles better than low ROF, low ammo capacity 40mm
25mm DU can penetrate vehicles rated for 30mm. I’m sure CV-90 has based DU rounds too right?
>the cv90 is for midgets now
I honestly dont understand the reasoning behind this shitpost.
The crew compartment is needlessly cramped. Dutch mechanized infantry life is suffering
I cant find anything on this being an issue, sauce me up man this is interesting.
I spent 2 years in the 30' version of those without problem, and i'm 190cm/115kg with west and gun.
I was attached to a training with CV9040 and sure its cramp but it fitted my fat ass at 191cm and around 90kg plus gear and 7 others of similar build.
I spent 3 years in the 30' version of those with huge problems, and i'm 185cm/115kg with west and gun.
The Dutch are one of the tallest people in the world. Every armoured fighting vehicle is going to be cramped when the average height is 182.9 cm (6ft) tall.
What does that have to do with the cramped quarters of the Cv-90? Am I supposed to care that some tall Dutch retards who will never see combat are cramped into an armored fighting vehicle
Yes but they would be less cramped in a less cramped vehicle. CV-90s are basically safe queens. None of the countries that operate them have large armored forces or any kind of armored fighting history.
Probably because you're a midget from midget-land.
That looks really bad. Here is peak IFV aesthetic
>bulging MG/sighting ports
pic rel is the best looking one
Nice looking turret but the body of the vehicle looks like shit
bro u gay
it’s sleek as fuck
The turret looks really good. Otherwise this is a pretty bad looking infantry fighting vehicle
you have pretty bad taste
its hull looks exactly like a Panther (and by that I mean the WW2 tank, not the IFV)
which is ultrasex
Sorry it’s hard to take vehicles that have never seen combat seriously. I know the there was a few cv-90s in afghanistan but they didn’t do anything
From OP's phrasing, I came under the impression that this thread was about aesthetics.
But, since you mentioned it, Bradley's history is that of being taken out by illiterate people from countries in the coveted bottom 10 HDI worldwide.
Yes Bradley is more aesthetic and has done more impressive things in combat. kek the midget mobile has never killed a tank in anger. That’s embarrasing
It's a low effort warriotard thread, nothing about this thread was created to faciliate discussion, only to samefag and push a narrative.
delusional. This vehicle is aesthetic is hardly a narrative
Warriortard you are so transparent it's not even funny.
They kinda did, they drove around with Mech-inf and killed people
12 vehicles deployed to low intensity afghanistan.
Yeah and they drove around as mech inf and killed stuff, like intended
This is warriortard
The three replies are also warriortard.
That doesn’t work anymore. The boy who cried warriortard exhausted it
Don't call me Dennis, mongrel. That schizo can drown in a septic tank for all i care.
sure thing Dennis
Okay, now you are just shitposting.
>when you order your false flagging shill on Wish
>Terrible looking SOVLless hack paint job
>Boxy, unsightly angular hull
>Those side skirts
>Turret looks like a 5 year old sketching an M1a turret from memory
No thank you.
How is it that all of the new Euro IFV designs are struggling to keep up with an American IFV from the late 80s
The CV-90 looks lean, professional. It's got a low profile, like a hunter feline of some sort. The large cannon is intimidating. Even the headlights look more menacing.
The Bradley appears fat, cumbersome. It's cannon is so small it's pathetic. There's so many surfaces facing the enemy.
It's too tall and it looks as though it's always about to roll over. Like a satisfying target to shoot at.
Nah CV-90s look impotent. The high ROF chaingun is much more intimidating than the CV-90s pea shooter trying to LARP as a sharpshooter with 80 year old leftover anti-aircraft guns. The CV-90 has more utility as a SPAAG than an IFV
You can't really mean that. The cannon looks so small compared to the massively fat vehicle.
>40mm peashooter old design
Secondly, the variant the CV-90 uses is from 2005, therefore more modern than Bradley's dicklet cannon.
When these vehicles meet up with a group of BMP's, the infantry would alway prefer to have CV-90 on support, disassembling them from further away than they can answer.
The difference is that it’s understood that that sexy 25mm can fire multiple hundred rounds at the enemy before resupply. The CV-90 just can’t.
>but it’s better against armored vehicles
the Bradley is the most successful IFV of all time when it comes to killing enemy armored vehicles from range. The CV-90 has never even done it combat kek
It's also NATO's most RPG'd to smithereens by afghans on 1 meal a day, that's for sure.
Also the worlds most eliminated vehicle by brazilian made Cascavel 90mm turrets statically dug into the desert.
It's the number one western vehicle in being taken out by DShk's shots to the rear and achieved the enviable record of 150 vehicles being irreparably destroyed in Iraq alone.
But hey! We'll see how that fearsome 25mm is gonna fair in Ukraine, huh? Let's see how many BMP's it will destroy and how many can the "aged, unfit 40mm" will do against their 33mm resistant frontal armor.
Well yea it’s the only western IFV to see heavy use. IFVs get blown up by nature of being infantry fighting vehicles. It’s done a lot more good than it has been blown up. Look how mad you get just discussing this legend. It’s like a Bradley personally fucked your mom
If you acknowledge that point, than why would you argue "muh most successful at destroying enemy armor", retard. I know. The truth that your shitbox sucks hurts.
The CV-90, and most NATO IFV's for that matter, never had the opportunity to prove themselves.
On the spec sheet, the CV-90 is better. It's participation in Ukraine will prove that it's the superior NATO design and that the Bradley is an under gunned, under armored farce.
> It's participation in Ukraine will prove that it's the superior NATO design and that the Bradley is an under gunned, under armored farce.
just 2 more weeks CV-90 bros
Frankly, if I were a person to keep a grudge, I'd screen caps you Bradley fags right now, just to see you seethe and cope in 3 months time.
It's a vehicle with limited use so far. And the swedes don't lie about their armament.
>Any day now
fucking kek stop anon I’m trying not to bully anyone anymore but you are just making it too hard
Remind me, how many T-72s has the CV-90 destroyed, and how many has the Bradley destroyed?
Also remind me of how many turret mounted ATGMs the CV-90 has? Less than 2? Hmm.
What exactly does it do better than the Bradley again? Clearly not killing tanks. And 25mm is superior for infantry suppression. So what exactly is the point of having a larger caliber main gun, if neither gun can kill tanks, it's worse for killing infantry, and you have no ATGM? Doesn't that just make it worse at either role? I'm not trolling, I want you to answer this honestly.
Most CV-90s don’t have any ATGMs comoared to all 9000 Bradleys having integrated ATGMs. The newest cv-90 variant has spikes tho
>Remind me, how many T-72s has the CV-90 destroyed, and how many has the Bradley destroyed?
this is so true, it's just like how the F-15 is better than the F-22, what has the F-22 ever accomplished? shot down a chink balloon? woahoohoooooOoO
When you realize that Sweden famous for and has been producing 40mm barrels for 80 years their decision to be the only country to adopt a 40mm IFV makes a little more sense.
>the spec sheet says it’s better!
The quality of this board is in the shitter
>Cuck Vehicle-90 designed in the 2000s is better than American IFV from the fucking 1980s
I should hope so.
Speaking of cucks, how's your sister doing Dennis? Is she still riding migrant cock on an every day basis?
why do you think its called the cv90
Cum Vaccuum 90?
Cuckold Virgin 90?
Cock Vasaline 90?
From what i find the CV9040 has 300 rounds per minute while the bradley has 200 rounds per minute, am i missing something ??.
Yea you missed the part where the CV-90 doesn’t even have close to 300 rounds in the vehicle unless 180 are in ammo cans in the back
300 in the bradley vs 238 in the CV9040
While the rounds are lower the payload is higher so i doubt the 62 shell difference is any real problem.
Source on numbers. You’re comparing max load of the CV-90 to just what the Bradley has at the ready.
Yea 48 rounds in the carrousel. That’s a far cry from the amount Bradley can carry at the ready
25mm vs 40mm.
how many 25mm would you need to similar effect to a single 40mm? 5?
Depends. 25mm is far superior if you’re trying to support infantry and lay down a base of fire. 40mm is far superior if you want to blow up a concrete block house. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
why would 25mm be better at that? pop off a few 40s and everyone is shredded by shrapnel.
Because infantry is spread out and when this happens a single 40mm shell suppresses one or two guys instead of being able to just take a platoon from flank to flank with 25mm he. You might as well ask why we don’t suppress infantry with 120mm tank shells
>lay down a base of fire
That's what the coax is for.
I don’t need to be in the vehicle to understand that it’s cramped. You obviously are a little defensive due to your service with CV-90s. There’s really no argument for a smaller compartment. I have first hand experience with the living out of LAV-25s and those pieces of shit were very cramped. Got to poke around a Bradley in Kuwait and the troop compartment felt more like well deck of an LPD
The coax and 25mm chain gun can lay down a base of fire. The 40mm doesn’t carry enough ammo to do so. The 25mm has better effects on target than the 7.62mm
Ok thanks for clarifying. It makes sense now
They’re too different to compare like this. With 25mm you get a lot more rounds going down range. Good for chopping up infantry and light vehicles. With depleted uranium sabots you get really good armor penetration as well. With 40mm you get longer range, an increase in HE filler making airbursting ammo viable, but you lack the ability to throw a large amount of rounds at a time.
In truth you want 2 vehicles that complement eachother. One smaller caliber chaingun for the close in fighting part of a fighting vehicle (20-30mm)
And one larger caliber for extended range and the use of airbursting munitions (35-??).
The US is in a good position to reap the benefits of both with their OMFV in 50mm that they will procure and they will also still have thousands of brads
Fair point actually, the bradley carries 600 additional ammo in stowage.
>the CV90 has 238 rounds in the ready box
cv9040 has sexier ejection so it's better
That isn’t very sexy. This thread has handed consistent Ls to CV-90
That’s a really bad design
Low profile isnt a good thing. The Americans are smart enough to realize crew comfort is more important than low profile. I mean the US is actually expected to use its gear so a midget box just isn’t going to cut it. Ask the Soviets how their low profile IFVs and tanks are
have you ever been in a CV90? I'm 190cm and 115kg with vest and gun, its not bad at all. my whole team fits without any problems
Have you ever been inside IFV? Video game doesn’t count.
Is right, CV90 is spacious for the crew and infantry and is basically space age compared to the BMP-2
Wait, is that... dazzle camouflage? Dazzle is making a comeback?
bradleys have been pretty iconic since what the fucking 80s? 90s? I remember having micro-machine brads as a kiddo
also where's the ERA
Yeah sure it looks nice, but does it have a capacity of 20? Dont think so
Yea sure had a capacity of 20, but can it kill tanks from 4.5 km away?
Even better, it can kill 20 Russians at 0 km
I will never understand why they didn't just extend the midsection height
Because it's a tank chassis they converted, that's all ass burning hot radiators back there.
Oh, I think I got this layout mixed up with the MT-LB, because I was think the rear was the passenger compartment. Disregard my retardation
Nope, they just welded an empty box where the PT-76 turret would have been, and the hatch for everyone to get in and out of it is on the top. The thing is a clown car in practically all respects.
>make a clown car
>everyone rides in the front so they can die in the first penetration
>have 10 feet hanging off the back, because
what the fuck
Actually the drive is the one in the very front, you can see his head sticking out of the hatch in the middle.
>>have 10 feet hanging off the back, because
that's where the engine is
>Build an Armoured Personnel Carrier
>Only armour the bottom half of the personnel
>you can fit 20 siberian goblins in here, allegedly
literal clown car
What's this from again?
Trained on 80s movies
Ah, makes sense. Looks like someone mashed up those guys of the Chronicles of Riddick with one part Robocop and another part 40k Imperial Guard.
How the fuck are you supposed to fit 20 cummies in there?
Stack them like lego bricks
It was originally open topped until they added a roof late. So you could probably stuff 20 dudes standing in there.
>someone trying to jostle up waning war support literally titling their account "Deep State"
Boy I love living in a post-democracy oligarchic hellstate
They're getting M2A3 as well as the M2A2ODS-SA?
I for one am excited for the brad to buckbreak the line around mariupol. Nature is healing.
300 brads was always the game changer, not a dozen tanks.
300? I wish Ukraine got that many
Feels good to be king of the IFVs
yea it’s PrepHoleino
Bradley isn't a good looking IFV it's a M113 with an offset retarded turret.
I forgot the boxer that should probably be number 3 with the RT60 turret
You have to be more subtle if you're going to troll this board anon.
Holy fuck where is the added armor package???? These things don't stand a fucking chance without it.
>*muffled kurwa from the distance*
One thing that always amazed me about the Bradley was it’s stabilized gun. Just look at how fucking accurate these things are while on the move.
God damn that’s impressive. Sometimes function is an aesthetic all it’s own
Jesus Christ that’s devastatingly accurate. Last week someone on here was trying to say being able to accurately fire on the move isn’t important.
>low fire-rate compared to bmp-2
>only 60 degrees of elevation
>as a result bradleys in ODS suffered from being incapable of striking anything above a second floor in urban combat
it's gonna be interesting hearing ukrainian soldiers experiences with this thing
The OP is elevated much higher than the second story. The Bradley has no problem elevating its gun. Here’s a few more pictures of the Bradley gun elevated much higher than the claim you made about the 2nd story.
>As army ground formations engaged Iraqi combatants in urban settings during the early stages of Operation Iraqi Freedom, a problem surfaced with both the weapon elevation on the BFV and the MI Abrams tank series, according to an extract from the preliminary army operational history of the war in Iraq, titled On Point: The United States Army in Operation Iraqi Freedom:
>Tanks and Bradleys performed brilliantly in OIF, but they did not meet all of the operational requirements. Despite their advantages in armor, tanks and Bradleys evinced a number of disadvantages they could not elevate their weapons far enough to fire at the upper floors of buildings from close range, But as 3rd ID [Infantry Division] discovered, the lowly M113, full of engineers armed to the teeth, could engage the second and third stories. Clearly, no weapon system is perfect for all environments, and even the superbly equipped forces that fought OIF have vulnerabilities. Adaptation, flexibility, and a mix of capabilities seem vital.
your case being? besides looking at pictures and making baseless conclusions
I hope they actually build one of these.
>Holy shit this looks so much cooler than other western IFVs
Why is that important?
Sorry to hear that your country doesn't operate IFVs with tanks so the IFVs are forced to be upgunnend while losing the capabilities to efficiently operate against infantry.
>This entire thread of Warriortard cope
Honestly it's kind of pahetic at this point.
>everything I don’t like is a cartoonish villain
You are pathetic
>Make a thread every day shilling the same shit for a year so often, effectively only newfags will believe your lies in the short term
>It doesn't exist guys you're a schizo
>effectively only newfags will believe your lies in the short term
Uncomfortable truths are lies!!!