History books will see this as the tipping point

13 HIMARS were the exact point Russia lost the war. Just 13

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Silly hoholmutts, glorious Ruzzia has already captured 500 HIMARS.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the manufacturer in arkansas has already been destroyed. good luck replenishing your himars nato scum

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dave here from Little Rock Oblast, My Opa is radioactive thanks to righteous Russia vengeance on the capitalist running dogs responsible for eating children in rightful Russian Donbas. If only I had not supported NATO meddling in non-state of Ukraine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >captured 500 HIMARS
      you mean 500 trillion himars

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    american intel is the thing that really changed the game here, 5000 himars wouldnt do shit without american top tier intel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >american intel is the thing that really changed the game here

      0 evidence of that. It's so convenient to boast about something that can never be proven.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope more

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, you're coping! (Coping!)
        Yes, you're seething! (Seething!)
        You just can't accept what you're seeing! (Seeing!)
        Yes, you're coping! Coping and see-thing!
        The truth, it is scalding, and now you are malding.
        And cooo-ping!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope more

          And even after your ritual dance there is still 0 (zero) evidence of it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's also no evidence that the sky is blue if you're a retard who can't look up.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Schizos really will ignore everything said by multiple official press venues for the very factions in question pointing out how US intelligence is used to write all of the major victories on the ground, just because the CIA didn't come to their doors with 8x10s of the satellite feeds.

            The opportunity to think clearly about stuff like a Ukrainian SEAD campaign in absence of any Ukrainian airborne sensors just never enters their swiss cheese brains.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you're coping! (Coping!)
            Yes, you're seething! (Seething!)
            You just can't accept what you're seeing! (Seeing!)
            Yes, you're coping! Coping and see-thing!
            The truth, it is scalding, and now you are malding.
            And cooo-ping!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Best proof positive that the US is holding the wheel is the overwhelming military success. Uniquely and distinctively American.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's also no evidence that the sky is blue if you're a retard who can't look up.

          The best indicator of the quality of the American intelligence is its shameless reports about the Afghan army during the withdrawal.
          Ukrainians have 100 times more assets and data in tis part of the world than Americans.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Say what you will about the withdrawal but we actually had the ability to leave so hastily.

            Starving and desperate vatnik soldiers living off of woodchips and pond water wish that their military could pull off anything even vaguely approaching the shitshow that was leaving Afghanistan. They'd need to learn a century of logistics to even manage that much.

            Nobody else on planet Earth could ever possibly ghost an entire country that fast.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're missing the point. American intelligence services have proven themselves incompetent and corrupt over and over again over the decades. They've missed and misinterpreted so many important events that crediting them with some kind of superiority over the national intelligence of the country where they operate would be vatnik-tier delusional.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'd maybe have a point, if the sinking of the Moskva wasn't already attributed to them, along with countless air and artillery strikes on identified high value targets. Maybe coordinating a conventional war against an invading military is just fundamentally different to coordinating a counter-insurgency? Surely not, nobody has ever thought that before in the history of warfare.

                Cope, seethe, mald, et al.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if the sinking of the Moskva wasn't already attributed to them

                By whom lol? As far as we know something hit Moskva, possibly twice, and it sank. The end of story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >By whom?
                The Ukrainians lol. Vatnik cope can only accept the narrative of some mysterious circumstances, everyone else already knows that Moskva was tailed by the Global Hawks, harassed via TB-2 till the radar crews were fatigued, and then dinged by Neptune missiles from the shore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does that have to do with American glowies, dumbass? It was a purely military operation with military intel.
                Every officer in the Ukrainian navy knew that Moskva's main radar only tracks one side and rarely gets turned around.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Global Hawk spotted and tracked Moskva
                >Nothing to do with Americans.
                Here you go guys, primo wet-brained vatnik moment right fuckin' here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Global Hawk is operated mainly by USAF, dumbass. The question was

                > What does that have to do with American glowies
                > American glowies
                > glowies

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who do you think is relaying information to the Ukrainians? Do you think they just gave Zelenski the big red Air Force Phone, and they call it whenever they find something that's worth a HARM or GMLRS? Do you think they just text them raw screenshots of the satellite feed? Fetal alcohol syndrome is strong with you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Who do you think is relaying information to the Ukrainians?

                Do you even understand that the tracking was going on in real time? It's a technical problem. Assuming the Ukrainians didn't track Moskva themselves, which they perfectly could do considering how close it was to Odesa at the time and the fact that TB2 was there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They first consulted with the US to identify it. It's in all the news. Clearly you can't read.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's in all the news.

                Still zero quotes from the officials.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zelenski isn't going to come personally blow you, Ivan. He probably has better things to do than actually talk to the NY Times or whatever other gays. The truth lives in a canned and vague corrospondence and nobody cares more to send you a special statement to satisfy your achizophrenia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone else already knows that Moskva was tailed by the Global Hawks

                Can I get a quote?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying the Moskva wasn't broadcasting it's position the whole time with it's fucking radars

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We know it wasn't using its radar because turning the radar on disables the ships communication network
                This is probably why it sunk so fast, as soon as it was hit the captain switched on the radar which immediately disabled all on board communications and thus prevented any kind of coordinated and effective damage control until it was already too late to save the ship

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We know it wasn't using its radar because turning the radar on disables the ships communication network

                You think radars disable VHF and MF/HF communication?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The one on the Moskva did, it was in the leaked maintenance report
                It also could not travel faster than half of its maximum speed nor turn at an angle greater than 20 degrees which probably would have hindered evasive manuevres somewhat had they ever realised they were actually under attack

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moskva's job was protecting the russian fleet in the Black Sea, you seriously trying to tell me they didn't have a working radar of any kind or form?

                Russian documents confirm radar fucked with comms. They still marked it fit for service.

                Imagine the hulks that arent flagships

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moskva's job was protecting the russian fleet in the Black Sea, you seriously trying to tell me they didn't have a working radar of any kind or form?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but what he actually told you was that the radar wasn't turned on you dumb fucking gay garden gnome cunt.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The RADAR worked, it just interfered with the comms system. Apart from that it worked flawlessly, when it was turned on. Which it wasn't.

                It's not really working when it's turned off through problems.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's working when it's turned on though 🙂

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The RADAR worked, it just interfered with the comms system. Apart from that it worked flawlessly, when it was turned on. Which it wasn't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Choice between:
                >completely blind
                >deaf and mute

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sinking of the Moskva wasn't already attributed to them
                I dont think it's true. As far as we know it was clever Ukr operation with Bayraktars as decoys and Neptunes as real strike. I would agree that SBU is probably have way way more info especially with ties to russian glowies and in general being on the ground and preparing for this for 8 years. Sure west intel provides some help but I would not overestimate them that much and give Ukies their props. This is actually vatnik cope that they are fighting nato when in fact their asses are simply kicked by Ukrainians...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When to comes to orginizations that operate on secrecy, incompetence and conspiracy are often impossible to distinguish for observers on the outside.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody has been fired for the Afghan withdrawal. Not a single general stood up and resigned in protest when the withdrawal was being arranged. This is a clear indicator of institutional incompetence.
              Ukrainian victories belong to Ukraine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not when they rely on American weapons and targeting data

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not when they rely on American weapons and targeting data
                So all of the air to air kills in the Iran-Iraq war belong to America?
                And tracking a Capitol ship in a tiny sea is not a herculean effort.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. All military victories belong to America.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m more referring to the HIMARS situation. That’s what the thread is about. America saved the day with their superior tech. I know you don’t like to hear it but that’s what we’re looking at

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I know you don’t like to hear it but that’s what we’re looking at
                Ukraine's use of a rocket system we developed in the 70s is not really an American win. The R-360 Neptune missile used to sink the Moscow was basically a Russian missile from the 70s with a Ukrainian coat of paint on it.
                It is the employment of the weapon that achieves the victory

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yea america is employing the HIMARS. American intel being used to direct American rockets is definitely a win for the US. And HIMARS entered service in the 2,000s. Same with GMLRS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Best proof positive that the US is holding the wheel is the overwhelming military success.
          Absolutely obsessed. Try watching less tv.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        >MUH MURICAN INTELLIGENCE
        is the weirdest cope I've heard. It's the same intelligence who assessed Kyiv fall in few days. They may have bugs in putins toilet but they understand jackshit about russians. At best they just help with tapping and provide unfiltered info to ukies leaving it to them to analyze it.
        Most probably they just send them most critical info once in a while if they feel like it. Closest to this matter sources mention that a reaction time between request and receive for western info can reach days.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bro, the US literally predicted where and when the Russians would attack and even called them on the false flag they were going to do.

          US intelligence has been doing a fantastic job so far.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >US literally predicted where and when the Russians would attack
            They didn't knew exact date until the last moment, like everyone else did, and guessing at least approximate time frame should be minimal prerequisite for getting into military intelligence tbh. Predicting where and how invasion gonna happen isn't very difficult task as well, ukies did it long before possible invasion was even on the table, it's not like terrain leaves much room for maneuvers.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Predicting where and how invasion gonna happen isn't very difficult task as well, ukies did it long before possible invasion was even on the table

              Yeah, because the US was also helping them then. It's also not easy to exactly calculate force buildup without satellites capable of imaging individual troops and movements, which Ukraine does not have. The Ukrainian, US, and British defense ministries have all openly stated that US Intel was crucial to sinking the Moskva, and for identifying gaps in the Kharkiv defensive line. And there's also the fact that there are US retistered globalhawk flights over the black sea often enough to get picked up by flightradar.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > predicted where
            They didn't predict Sumy, Chernihiv and Kyiv. Even an armchair expert such as myself back in 2014 predicted ruskies will rush through Donbas and the south eventually.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's the same intelligence who assessed Kyiv fall in few days

          Exactly. Everyone forgets about it, but CIA completely misread the whole thing at the beginning. And now they're God of intelligence lol.

          Literally on the news retard.

          Give me a quote and the source, can you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally on the news retard.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just pure vatnik cope, turning
        >america shares SOME data with Ukraine
        directly into
        >uKrAiNe GeTs All DaTa FrOm tHe HATO!!!
        I swear to god, if there was something like an IQ for percieving ratios and amounts, vatniks would all have IQs of borderline retards and worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >0 evidence of that
        American reconnaissance planes flying non-stop next to Ukraine is evidence enough (you could see them on flightradar when the war started, not sure if you still can/whether they're transponding, but there were a lot of them just doing loops in certain areas over and over again).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep. Still can.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wouldn't be shocked if RQ-170/180 were doing flights over ukraine itself, just at very high altitude and an RCS so small that none of the air defense radars in the area can see shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Other than the DoD and the UK MoD outright stating that they have been availing their intel capabilities.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you, never change kid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fancy weapons like HIMARS don't help at all if you don't tell them the right places to hit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >5000 himars wouldnt do shit
      lmao you'd be picking up russian remains with a vacuum cleaner
      in Moscow

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        im praising american military supremacy, what the fuck are you on?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but intel was there from day 1. We are talking about the thing that changed it from losing to winning.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With 5000 Himars and enough rockets you no longer need intel of any kind lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's really telling how much a handful of systems like this mattered. Underscores the weakness of the adversary.

      Intel informs strategy
      Strategy informs tactics
      Tactics don't matter if you can't execute.
      HIMARS allow execution of tactics. And russians.
      Etc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      While satellite photos and cyber intel are most likely shared, shit's not that complex
      >Be ukrainian citizen, living in occupied territory
      >Notice russians are setting up barracks, or a warehouse, which is not really hard to spot
      >Take a pic of it and send it to some guys who can talk about it with higher ups
      >Answer any questions regarding local traffic, presence of any SAM batteries etc
      >That same night warehouse hit
      For coordinating artillery strikes NATO intel is not really required, when you have an entire local population actively plotting against t

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you have an entire local population actively plotting against
        trannies will believe this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >American intel won
      >American artillery won

      In another thread these same anti-Russian shills would be saying "haha russia lost against one single impoverished country"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both are true

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you forget to take your meds

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WE ARE TOTALLY WINNING GUYS KILL ALL RUSSIANS
    >gets nuked
    >OWWWIIII RUSSIA BAD
    Can't wait.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do it gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tfw russia literally only has "muh nooks" left to troll with.
      your capacity to wage conventional war is nonexistent and even CSTO members are realising it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WW3
      Russia and which allies?
      China?
      Yeah, China hecking love Nuclear War because they have Mega cities amirite?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying their nukes work
      i doubt it would even leave silo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      each day cope becomes more and more delusional

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh nooks
      Do it gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like we are at the "we will win if we nuke " stage of the wannabe Nazi Germany speed run

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh Nazi
        Back to the mainstream media

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Calm down daddy
          It's a game reference that autism like to play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once this is over with and Russia loses without dropping a single nuke, you'll either have a nice day or just say
      >we could've nuked them and we would've won!!!
      for the next 50 years or so.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >> NOOK NOOOK
      >> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      think i might start doing NOOOK memes for easy (You) farming.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        (You) farming is for imbeciles, though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no it's not

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you're basically yearning for the attention of retards
            Pretty gay bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia has no working nuclear weapons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't NATO step foot in Ukraine?
        Do it gay! C'mon gay I dare you! I double dare you motherfucker.
        Send the F35's already.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nato already is, didn't you Vatniks claim that the 101st airborne is part of the counter offensive?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dropping a nuke because you can't win a conventional land war you started with a neighboring country
      Could anything be more pathetic?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The nuke fails to detonate of falls in russia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lose a game of chess
      >threaten to flip the table
      This is what vatniks have been reduced to. Sad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he really got to you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >literal facebook boomer meme

          Is this the best they have any more?

          What happened to taking Kiev by the end of March?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that boomer meme really got to you

            >What happened to taking Kiev by the end of March?
            you tell me. you seen to know what happens next.
            as in you have an official timetable obtained from the Russians. share it with us mortals.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you trying to convince me that having the Kiev front collapse and descending into an eight month stalemate was part of the plan?

              >inb4 I didn't say that

              Then what the fuck are you trying to say retard?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the north helped the south.
                that's all it was supposed to do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that why there were literal riot cops in the columns?

                >inb4 that didn't happen

                We all saw the footage dumbass.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >riot cops in the columns
                share proof with us. I'm sure you will.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a bloody jacket with omon written on it proves that 30k Russians were prepared to take Kiev's 4 million population.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A single nuke turning moscow to ashes proves 300 million americans are prepared to take Russia's dozens of remaining people

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bet that that rambling made sense in your mind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moscow nuke nuke moscow moscow nuke

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did a pretty shit job of it
                Tвoя мaть coceт члeны в aдy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like clockwork

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?t=237

      Will MGS ever not be pertinent?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      north korea tier cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can actually feel the seething through the screen.

      Russia not the only country with nukes. If it chooses to use them, it will be the last thing Russia ever does. The final sentense of Russian history. Its suicide note.

      Will be unpleasent for the rest of the world as well, but threatning with nukes because you're losing on the ground is a retarded position. Not even the US does this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BIX NOOK MUHFUGGUH!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't scare me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      throwing a nuke because you're losing a war you started is the kind of behavior that gets the entire world onboard with removing your access to weapons and your territory split up because it's clearly ruled by subhuman retards that can't be trusted to resist doing all this stupid shit again someday.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has announced today at a briefing the destruction of 44 HIMARS out of 20 that are in service in Ukraine, – according to open sources.
    pic.twitter.com/GbY39eY7gl

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those retards probably meant 44 rockets intercepted but even that is questionable after their constant lies. I think claiming 4 bradleys destroyed when everyone knows there is exactly zero bradleys in ukraine was even funnier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think claiming 4 bradleys destroyed when everyone knows there is exactly zero bradleys in ukraine was even funnier
        .. did US leave any in Iraq or Afghanistan?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those retards probably meant 44 rockets intercepted but even that is questionable after their constant lies. I think claiming 4 bradleys destroyed when everyone knows there is exactly zero bradleys in ukraine was even funnier

      I still can remember when russian fake new channels claimed Russia had intercepted something like 120 Tomahawk missiles in Syria, only 90 were actually launched and satellite pictures of the targets showed how at least 98% of the Tomahawks hit their target.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were stating that their SAMs blowing up (because they didn't hit anything and self-destructed high in the air) we all intercepts.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We had vatniks claiming pictures of russian SAM boosters and russian AA missile dumped in some rock desert to be from downed Tomahawks, shit was hilarious. And then there also was that one picture with a fucking water boiler which didn't even had the right size at all for it.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First tipping point was the feint of kiev. 2nd tipping point was losing the moskwa to a country without a navy.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't fall for le wunderwaffe bullshit like a retard, it makes us look bad.
    The reasons for Ukraine's success are many, not least of all Russia's general retardation.
    Not saying they didn't help, tho.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    russia lost before himars or even lend lease itself was considered

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HIMARS are the Stingers of the soviet afghan war.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There’s a reason there are so many orders for HIMARS. It’s the best mlrs in the world rn

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Igor Girkin (Strelkov) is shocked!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shocked I say!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is also a form of cope and propaganda, that there is anything that the Ministry of defense could have done to prevent their defeat.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and propaganda
          Yeah, i think with the doomer aproach he's trying to program the idea that failure = catastrophic end or Russia, as a way to safeguard Kremlin from anyone stepping in and people supporting new direction.

          Basically he paints the picture as - we either suck it up and succeed, or its complete collapse of Russia or full mobilization and total war. He makes it seem as if there is no option to step back, come to respectable agreement, get sanctions revoked and start saving their economy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You think if Russia is ever going to retreat out of Ukraine and Strelko refuses to leave, will he have an accident? I would be surprised, if he didn't had one.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >will he have an accident?
              Doesn't seem like agent anymore. I think he's a mouthpiece now. Unless he works against orders he'd still be good asset to manage and address any imperial fanatics in controlled way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he is so mad its funny lmao. Western surplus from the fucking 80s is ROLLING the might and pride of Puccian Pederastion.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I LOVE GLOBAL moron COMMUNISM

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >irl is just like Command and Conquer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friendly reminder to throw the employees of EA from rooftops.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed, but the Remaster was nice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those things (as well as Nod's artillery) were goddamn useless though.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Intel + HIMARS saved ukraine
    it must be fun as hell being a glowmoron these days. Checking their "google maps" in real time looking for russian positions and armor. then at the end of the day send a whatsapp to ukraine with some coordinates and see those positions beind deleted shortly after when you have your beer at home. Comfy

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/ukraine-russia-pentagon.htm
    >The strategy behind Ukraine’s rapid military gains in recent days began to take shape months ago during a series of intense conversations between Ukrainian and U.S. officials
    >Long reluctant to share details of their plans, the Ukrainian commanders started opening up more to American and British intelligence officials and seeking advice.
    >And in Kyiv, Ukrainian and British military officials continued working together while the new American defense attaché, Brig. Gen. Garrick Harmon, began having daily sessions with Ukraine’s top officers.
    >This account of the lead-up to the counteroffensive is based on interviews with multiple senior American officials and others briefed on the classified discussions between Washington and Kyiv that helped Ukrainian commanders shape the battle.
    coping copers coping

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah any minute now they might actually do something.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HIMARS is about as useful as the Smerch or whatever the fuck it's called and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
    >muh precision
    It doesn't take precision to hit a massive fucking ammo depot. Do you really expect me to believe Ukraine couldn't hit some fucking buildings with their local MLRS until they got these pieces of shit?
    You retards fell for propaganda, someone is trying really hard to sell these bad boys but they are nothing special.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HIMARS and GMLRS are much better than smerch. ffs this is how low tech smerch is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/9guDb40.png

        >It doesn't take precision to hit a massive fucking ammo depot

        The Smerch can hit a fucking bridge or ammo depot at it's maximum range you just have to use more missiles which happen to be cheaper too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Smerch can hit a fucking bridge or ammo depot
          It absolutely cannot, at maximum range that thing has a CEP of like 500m

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            500m is nothing when you have missiles to spare and more than 13 fucking units.
            The target will eventually get hit
            >but muh counter battery
            It has wheels for a reason redeploy and try again ammo depots and bridges aren't moving anywhere.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              500m is pathetic, there are WW1 tubes out there more accurate than that
              If you approached a western military with a design for a weapon that inaccurate you wouldn't just get laughed out of the room you'd get fucking fired from whatever engineering firm you worked at for sheer incompetence

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what? It's not impossible to hit a bridge or ammo depot you just need more ammo and time. And they had plenty of both in this trench warfare shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re possibly the most unintelligent person I’ve seen on the internet in a week.

                Are you arguing that a 500m CEP is preferential to a 5m CEP? Wouldn’t it be nice to actually hit the target you’re aiming at? Wouldn’t that leave all of the ammunition that you didn’t just waste available to hit other targets?

                500m CEP isn’t even acceptable for the trench warfare you’re describing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the target is an area.
                that's the point.
                that's what mlrs do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                only shitty russian ones that couldn't hit a ship's arse from 50 feet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the problem is with americans ending up with something that has no mlrs role.
                imagine my shock.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You definitely don't look like you're just making excuses for Russian weapons being absolute dog shit you fucking retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if they're obsolete then why is Ukraine begging for such weapons? why didn't with obsolete weapons?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *why fight

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one is begging for Smersh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oof yeah, sorry a nato country can't send some.
                oh, well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what about these backwards shitholes who will never actually use the garbage they bought

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why is the usa hunting for such garbage to desperately have it sent to Ukraine?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine begged for precision weapons because using unguided rockets in the year 2022 is wildly impractical. Surely you can understand the utility of firing one or two rockets at a target as opposed to wasting an entire convoys worth of ammunition to degrade a target with no guarantee of success.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why do you need 5 meter cep for taking out a huge static target? inquiring minds would like to know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what practical use is a 500 metre cep? inquiring minds would like to know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >500 metre cep
                citation needed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Destroying a bridge, destroying small groups of vehicles, targeting a bunker/cave entrance, targeting a fuel depot, hitting a pontoon barge, hitting a cargo ship offloading supplies, hitting individual buildings/barracks, hitting groups/individual planes at an airfield.

                I mean I could list 100 more targets that a 5M CEP on a 300km missile would be hugely useful for. Also, for every single one listed, you are both actually hitting the target and by proxy NOT hitting things you did not intend to target, like hospitals or apartment buildings.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how did Russia take out Ukrainian bridges?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember the times Russia tried to target bridges that were outside of dumb artillery range, they wasted an incredible amount of ordnance and proved relatively incapable of actually putting said bridges out of action. Whereas Ukraine has regularly hit bridges and put them out of action with HIMARS, forcing the Russians into extremely perilous river crossings that often end in disaster.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the bridge in herson is still operational though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is it? Why all the pontooning then?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                heavy equipment

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why can't it go across the still operational bridge?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                traffic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                May i see it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's not, why are you lying?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >half a kilometer is nothing
              you're kidding right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Proof? We’ve see. The HIMARS do it. Show me smerch doing it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They've had Smerch for the entire war. Daily strikes 70-90 km behind the front didn't start happening till HIMARS showed up. Just because some vatnik dogshit has a number on paper doesn't make that a practical capability with real targets and enemies shooting back.

            Any proof they tried to use the Smerch and failed to hit? First you guys claim the CEP is too big. Ok, any example of a failed barrage on an ammo depot or bridge? No? So they didn't even try until HIMARS? Or perhaps the range of the Smerch is smaller which is yet another outrageous claim.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've had Smerch for the entire war. Daily strikes 70-90 km behind the front didn't start happening till HIMARS showed up. Just because some vatnik dogshit has a number on paper doesn't make that a practical capability with real targets and enemies shooting back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            More like HIMARS came with the intel attached as a way of promoting expensive dogshit Amerimutt MLRS.
            After the info was received the strikes could've been done with Grads for all we know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cheaper
          Yeah you just need to move 10 times as much stuff around, which is very cheap.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It doesn't take precision to hit a massive fucking ammo depot

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >US intelligence
    >relevant

    it's all brittish.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You think the live keyhole satellite feeds are British?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what would a 50 years old piece of tech that's been long obsolete have to do with anything?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are you actually retarded?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are NROL patches always legit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone with a crazy boomer uncle has been hearing about them as keyhole for decades. But shit like Misty II is still up there, and there are a lot of other satellites that don't have a publicized purpose that are probably some kind of other super secret spy sat.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree that the deployment of HIMARS turned the war. Up to that point, the Russians could rely on their arty to slowly destroy everything Ukraine from a safe distance. With HIMARS their arty had to play whackamole, as the moles. Other factors have also contributed greatly to russia being forced back, but superior long distance weapons are the weapon on the ground that is pushing them.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that Ukraine didn't at least TRY to hit any ammo depot with the Smerch shows that:
    1. The Smerch has way lesser range than advertised
    2. They didn't have any info on the ammo depots before the HIMARS arrived

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      or maybe the wonder ammo depots was just a press psyop

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait for Putin to press the nuke button only to find out that none of them are operational due to petty theft and neglect. And then there will truly be nothing stopping them from total oblivion at the hands of bloodthirsty Poles and Finns coming down on them like Satan's turgid throbbing fist.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?t=2567

      now we know where you get your talking points from, pedo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >/v/ e celeb
        Literally who? Post your gun or go away fag.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if the only nuke that worked had targeting data for a countervalue strike against China accidentally loaded?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also showed the world that their missile defense systems are absolutely worthless

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No they fucking weren't. Zelenskyy staying and Ukraine successfully defending Kyiv was where Russia lost the war. HIMARs followed on from that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >zelensky staying
      garden gnome went on a euro tour to beg for gibs, he spent most of the first few months of the war out of country. Why must you make things up?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He stayed when things were at their worst, and then after the Russians humiliating defeat and rout in the north, he did a great job of getting support for the continued effort of making Russians look completely incompetent. Why must you be such a vatnik?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, so he secured the necessary munitions and international aid Ukraine NEEDED to fight this war?

        What a horrible leader.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >While Putin has not been to any forward area so far this year

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a poor eastern European country getting invaded by a super power ASKED FOR HELP, how pathetic!
        This is your brain on krokodil.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two other systems that also can't be understated, Harpoons and AGM 88's. Effectively ended naval bombardment and have helped achieve air parity in the south.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Two other systems that also can't be understated, Harpoons and AGM 88's. Effectively ended naval bombardment and have helped achieve air parity in the south.

      Naval bombardment hasn't ended (albeit it slowed drastically after the Moskva and has since reduced further) and the Harpoons have a shorter range than Ukraine's own Neptunes. More ammo is more ammo and they've gotten a kill with them, but let's not overwank shit.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want my country to buy HIMARS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I want my country to buy AMERICAN made AMERICAN military equipment from AMERICA
      Nice job sucking uncle sams cock

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I'm sucking cock for military equipment it may as well be American cock since it looks like their shit actually works.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are all foreigners so fucking gay

          you can just pay us with dollars and not sexual favors you know, at this point with “lend lease” if you actually need the gear you’re practically getting it for free

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