Historically speaking, how good of a gunslinger was Doc Holliday really?

Historically speaking, how good of a gunslinger was Doc Holliday really?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he was your huckleberry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The correct line was I'll be your huckle bearer. Huckle is a 19th century slang for coffin. Kilmer said it incorrectly and no one caught it; now even the captions carry the error.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Fourth draft March 15, 1993
        https://imsdb.com/scripts/Tombstone.html
        It's a reference to "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, just old slang for "I'm the guy for the job", huckleberry was also slang for "fool" or "dunce". Doc was literally calling Ringo out for challenging Earp to a duel knowing Wyatt was just an asshole with incredible luck. Ringo was looking for the idiot who had accepted a duel with oen of the best gunslingers at the time and Doc says "I'll be the idiot you're looking for"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's another Olde Schoole implication attached the term, depending on context. Huckleberries are notorious for being difficult to eat. A huckleberry pie or jam requires a lot of effort, and a number of ingredients (sugar) to get past the taste and the tough core and other parts. Calling someone a huckleberry is equivalent to saying they are a bur under someone's tail ... annoying, and really fucking annoying & irritating to try and live with.

            Saying "I'm your huckleberry" is saying that you're tough, much tougher than some fool or drunk thinks you are. It's a warning "Don't fuck with me or you'll find out," but can also mean "If we're doing this together, those poor fuckers we're going up against don't know how hard I'm bringing the pain.

            In today's slang, it would be mostly equivalent of saying "I'm your nigga," for values of "nigga" that equal "I'm a hardhitting motherfuckiner and I WILL Fuck. Some. Shit. Up."

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no, no and no. you are an absolute idiot. find me one single reference to a huckle in any writing or novel or newspaper. do it if you are so confident in your bullshit.
        im sure val kilmer named his book Im Your Huckleberry for no fucking reason.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember reading somewhere that Doc Holliday wasn't special because he had weird moves like the movie shows but because he was exceptionally calm under duress. Same with a lot of famous old west gunfighters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he was exceptionally calm under duress
      when you're stoned out of your brain on opium

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        More like being unafraid of death since he was slowly dying from TB.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whos the superior marksman ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Definitely this nigga. Holliday was more about speed

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From what I understand he was a mediocre shot and preferred to use a knife.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He was cool in both movie and real life form, so the skill doesn't matter.
    He was in his prime too.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wyatt Earp said he was the fastest, nerviest draw he ever saw, or something like that. I'm not willing to dig either of them up and argue.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no daisy at all

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He had the genuinely immense advantage of being a stone cold psychopath who just didn't care if he made it or not, which is worth a lot more in a shootout than a fancy quick draw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was dying of tuberculosis in addition to being sociopath
      Before doc holiday went west he was trained as a dentist, and reportedly killed or maimed a few guys over a card game or something
      The man barely gave a fuck about anything even before he was on borrowed time with the tb

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like a lot of Western gunslingers in real life he was an interesting guy but he only killed 3 guys. He also died at 36 if tuberculosis. A lot of the things of people say about him are lies or are exaggerated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's interesting, Arthur Morgan in RDR2 dies at the same age and of the same disease. Guess the Doc inspired them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Doc definitely inspired my red dead 2 online
        character
        Me and the boys used to have fun roping chinese players (aussie so our servers are fucking full of the cunts and they're cheating 90% of the time)
        and dragging them behind our horses whilst dressed up as Wyatt Earp and his posse and yelling quotes from the movie

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I wish I could go back to the prime of that game. Fun shit icl.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You and me both
            I'll forever hate rockstar for pretty much abandoning it in favour of zoomers using mums credit card to buy money in GTA

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Val Kilmer made him seem cool, he was pretty cool for a killer. However him and the Earp brother were the bad guys. Gun confiscating dogs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Confiscating from outlaws, so what.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I got my entire understanding of the story from the movie

        They confiscated from everyone who entered the town.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair them disarming the entire town was also in the movie iirc

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah for safety reasons in the Wild fucking West.
          They didn't live in modern day Texax

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you lived 150 years from now you'd say it makes sense to disarm the population because of school shootings. You're entire perception of the 'Wild West' is from television and movies. You autistic idiot.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You're actually retarded. I hope you can surgically remove that extra chromosome one day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're such a dumb homosexual. I suggest you have a nice day immediately. Your autism is palpable
                >Wild fucking West
                Lmao you fucking idiot

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Everyone's perception of the wild west is from movies and books, no one currently alive is old enough to remember it you mouth drooling retard lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How do you function in daily life being this dumb?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Actually, it was a standard practice because drunk cowboys kept shooting up the place.

            • 1 month ago
              Bedeviled Egg

              Well said.
              Theres always some excuse for those who prefer security to liberty.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And who told you that liberty supersedes security as a value? What's the metric that you use to value these things?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I would shoot you if you asked me this in the wild west.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's because inside you're no better than a thieving murdering outlaw nagger, except you don't have the balls to do what they did nowadays.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keep yapping fag. After I shoot you I'll take your horse and sell it to the glue factory.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If I was your milk man I would give you 2 day old milk

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bro you good?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            we are far, far more violent today than they were in the "wild" west

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, you put outlaws in prison (or shoot them on sight), not confiscate guns from them.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Iffy. Doc Holliday wasn't particularly fast or accurate but he had no fear of death.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Mysterious Dave Mather.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe any of these "Doc Holliday" western type stories. The press made up shit back then the same way they do today. Alot of famous people in the past turned out to be rich ~~*european nobility*~~ and probably freemasons. Thats said I love westerns and this movie was great.

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