HIMARS had a massive effect on the Russo-Ukrainian war. This is forms data.

HIMARS had a massive effect on the Russo-Ukrainian war. This is forms data. On the left is Russian shelling before HIMARS arrived. On the right is after. I’m not going to go all the way and say the HIMARS/GMLRS combo is the reason russia is losing, but it played a contributing role

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FIRMS data*

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >implying russia isn't luring the ukies into a trap and will smash them with arty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What artillery?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean the 1,500 odd pieces that got blown to bits or captured? You think 1,500 more won't be added to that number even faster? retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ARMAtard thread.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    DUH.

    Relying on "Muh Arty Spam!!!" ALL the fucking time results in your enemy getting wise to it. They drew a simple conclusion.

    >RUSSIANS: "We have artillery!"
    >VALERIY: "No what you have is AMMO and the hope that when I've destroyed all your supplies, you'll still have enough men left from the fighting. Because if you don't, you'll all be pushed aside when I counterattack."

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Russia have a single effective counter to HIMARS? Without air superiority what can you do against high precision shoot n scoot rocket artillery?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will be cool to see the day Ukraine makes their own version of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine won’t make their own version. They don’t have a GPS constellation

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They claim the Iranian Wunderdrone is a counter, but we've only seen its effectiveness on Odesan Gas Stations and Zaporizhzhian Apartment buildings

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, that's their point. They want to scatter ukrainian air defenses.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Zaporizhian appartments were S-300 rockets.
        The drones are crape tbh, there are barely any casualties or damage from them. Yes, they have a lot of them, but their explosive power seems to be 1/10 of a rocket. It seems they have more of a psychological effect than anything else

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those Iranian drones don't even have optical or infrared targeting. They're preprogrammed with GPS coordinates. Okay for a fixed building or trench but useless against mobile arty liberally using shoot and scoot. Honestly I'd be shocked if the ukies using HIMARS can even shoot two missiles in a row from the same position without getting chewed out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-30_Smerch
      HIMARS was built basically because America didn't have a wheeled equivalent to the Smerch.
      The Russian equivalent to ATACMS is
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander

      It's hard to know how much GMLRS and ATACMS is outperforming BM30 and Iskander because they're newer systems with better guidance and slightly better range, how much is better Intel and EW and how much is Russia running out of ammo/not being able to get enough ammo to where it's needed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >HIMARS was built basically because America didn't have a wheeled equivalent to the Smerch.
        this is so wrong it's not even funny

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's neither wrong nor funny.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >himars
            >meant to be an equivalent to smerch or even meant to compete with it when it's designed for a completely different doctrine and use
            you have the smoothest of brains

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Haha yes my strawman argument means I'm right
              No it means you are fucking retarded

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >himars was meant to be an equivalent to smerch
                >quoting me is a strawman argument!
                absolute mongoloid

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Smerch
        >Iskander
        No no no no NO, Vatnik. To be an equivalent to HIMARS it has to be //ACCURATE//.
        Smerch and Iskander are Russian equivalent to the Iraqi SCUD.
        As the late Bill Hicks once said: "How do use a SCUD. Wellll, you launch it (*makes missile launch noise*) ....then you turn on CNN and see where it landed."

        The HIMARs -- paired with GPS grid or a drone camera -- could fly down an air vent from 30 kilometers away.
        Accuracy. Accuracy. Accuracy.
        Which is something the Russkies don't have. Hence why they can spend 4 months fire 75,000 shells a day and hit nothing but parks, apartment buildings and strip malls; whereas a Ukie with 4 HIMARs could fire 6 missiles a day and cripple your entire logistics chain in less than a week. Pic related.

        Prove me wrong: Post ammo dump.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why the fuck don’t the Russians deploy this shit? All I’ve ever seen them use are the stupid arty trucks from ww2.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their modern inventory is tiny

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They could only hope to maybe bribe someone to sabotage one of the trucks with an explosive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nooks

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    While HIMARS no doubt contributed a fuckton, Russia's artillery expenditure during May was also in no way sustainable.
    I don't think people realise just how much artillery Russia used during its famed "Donbass Offensive".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No artillery usage in the offense is ever sustainable. That's why it's an attack and you build up for it you halfwitted, never served, cretin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that either their doctrine assumes that it's sustainable or they just couldn't take advantage of the effects of the artillery fast enough before it was depleted, either way russians are dumb dumb.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they've been running out of ammunition and working barrels too though and this was predicted to be a problem for their artillery even before himars appeared in ukraine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The drop off in shelling is a direct cause of having their shells blown up by himars

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the western artillery had an effect. Russian barrels are so warped they can barely hit anything while Polish krab, American HIMARS or German pzh are shredding through the enemy

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently they've been using M26 rockets to great effect around Kherson too. Too bad most of these got decommissioned, there was enough for almost constant attacks, I'd love to see the vatniks getting obliterated by constant cluster munition barrages.

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