>loses horribly against guys whose best kit is an 50 year old ak and some dirty robes >cope vicariously through Ukos getting btfo after retreating from said cavemen
>Russians don't breed like roaches like the taliban
America needs to lose to the Russians like they did the Taliban, maybe then we'd be rid of vatBlack folk.
Ez win against the vodkaBlack folk. What the matter? The phone call where the vatBlack person shat himself about the fighting was really entertaining 🙂
Kek that fricking air support. They probably didn't even knew what hit them. Russia would be simply obliterated by NATO in such a manor that many generations afterwards would still laugh about it. Their airforce such a joke that it would be kind of like cheating if NATO uses its own.
>Today, the United States and Iraq both consider themselves as strategic partners, given the American political and military involvement after the invasion of Iraq and their mutual, deep-rooted relationship that followed. The United States provides the Iraqi security forces millions of dollars of military aid and training annually as well as uses its military bases. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq-United_States_relations
>doesn't have multiple opulent bunkers connected by underground rail network
He'd have never reached the power of the Kims, but he did have a bunch of bunkers. Then the US figured out how to destroy them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTq9yb_Zow
Contrary to your Russian military tactics, you don't use rocket artillery like HIMARS against civilians and civilian targets. Though Obama decided using drones for that was totally okay for some reason
>you don't use rocket artillery like HIMARS against civilians and civilian targets.
So, what where they target in belgorod yesterday?
And will we see an artillery duel between the HIMARS and the new TOS-2 Tosochka. With all the drone around the battlefield we might even see it soon after it happen.
>what where they target in belgorod yesterday?
There was no HIMARS rocket on Belgorod >And will we see an artillery duel between the HIMARS and the new TOS-2 Tosochka
Four HIMARS already destroyed two military bases, several ammo dumps and train, how long we have to wait until TOS-2 arrives?
>HIMARS artillery duel >with a TOS-2 >and its blistering max range of 10km
Lol, in this duel is the TOS allowed to cross the frontline and drive 60 km into enemy territory to make it fair?
They didn't. Iraq they left a democratic nation, even letting them elect a government that opposed them. Afghanistan they got tired of giving free shit and left, then their government - too cowardly to fight - surrendered to the Taliban who came out of the holes they'd been hiding in.
Did you know that Russia took more dead in the first TWO WEEKS of Ukraine than the US did in the entire Afghanistan War? Of course you did.
>America managed to capture 100% of Afghanistan and still lost in the insurgency phase >Russia only managed 15% of Ukraine and still hasn't made it to the insurgency phase yet, and somehow they'll win
America didn't lose the insurgency phase, it lost the domestic political phase. The American people saw no benefit to continuing to prop up the afghani government.
>Iraq >Saddam is gone and now the U.S. will train Iraq security forces
>Iraqi Security Forces are extremely moronic and have no concept of a country/state >'WHY IS MY SON DYING IN IRAQ STILL?!? THE BOYS NEED TO COME HOME' >Massive U.S. Troop withdrawal because soldiers need to come back home >2014 >Holy frick, the Islam murder horde is here in Iraq and sweeping through the entire third world including Africa >Mass desertions see pic related >Soldiers literally stripping their uniform and gear so they don't get shot by ISIS literally strolling through towns and recruiting more fighters >Same soldiers who deserted the army are also now joining ISIS
>Afghanistan >Coalition forces have destroyed the Taliban and will train the Afghani military to be self-sufficient when coalition forces leave >Afghani Security Forces are just as moronic except they are high on heroin and frick little boys >'WHY IS MY SON DYING IN AFGHANISTAN STILL?!? THE BOYS NEED TO COME HOME' >Massive U.S. Troop withdrawal because soldiers need to come back home
>Afghani also have no concept of a country/state or the concept of 'democracy' and 'voting' >The military i.e. glorified police are paid $13 a week to get shot at and blown up by leftover Taliban cells >Identify more with their villages warlord who are also 86km away from the capital of Kabul and plumbing and electricity >Taliban take over the government again
You can't help people who don't want to be helped
HIMARs entered service too late to see service in Iraq (the 2003-2011 war) and only saw extremely limited service in Afghanistan. When they were used though, they were used to great effect. For example, 50 Taliban officers died in a strike in Musa Qala in 2018 when a volley of HIMAR rockets struck the building they were meeting in at 14 second intervals.
>why did america lose in iraq and afghanistan?
We won those wars easily. We stayed in there for over 10years. Turns out, you can't rule a people that hate you and shoot at you. Should have killed 70% of their entire populations then inserted our own, in my humble opinion. That's how ancient civilizations did it and it WORKED.
>HIMARS derails trains >vatniks derail thread
I think the Russian prognosis is grim if their already sub-par logistics and rear area infrastructure is getting dunked on by a bare handful of modern western MLRS.
Enjoy your five month late day 1 objective, I'm sure the absolute ruin of that province was worth the hundreds of thousands of bodies you threw at it. Just make sure you actually hold on to it this time unlike what happened in Kyiv and Kharkiv!
Ukranian soldiers have been trained for 8 years by NATO and are equipped by NATO weapons so they're an excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers.
>so they're an excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers.
Yeah, the special military operation really would've ended in two weeks if they were fighting actually NATO soldiers.
Unfortunately, it would not be two weeks to Kyiv, it would be two weeks to Moscow.
Ukrianian soldiers have been trained by NATO soldiers and use the same equipment as NATO soldiers, actual NATO soldiers don't have any magical powers that would make them more effective.
>actual NATO soldiers don't have any magical powers that would make them more effective.
They have more than 8 years of training, and complete access to the combined NATO air force and navies.
>NATO doesn't have access to a fricking air force or navy
holy shit anon please stop going onto /misc/, that board is destroying your brain.
>not realizing that just like in ukraine, russia's hypersonic missiles will destroy 517% of NATO's air, land, and naval forces within the first 16 seconds of conflict
2 years ago
Anonymous
didn't one of russia's flagship literally ACK itself lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can confirm. I am ebil HATO soldier and I already am dead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when the hypersonic travel so fast they fly through time and kill you in the future
Terrifying.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NATO doesn't have access to a fricking air force or navy
holy shit anon please stop going onto /misc/, that board is destroying your brain.
8 years is more than enough, a soldier retires on average at 50
Also Russians now have actual combat experience while NATO only has training experience.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>8 years is more than enough, a soldier retires on average at 50
What of the officers? The commanders? The generals? >Also Russians now have actual combat experience while NATO only has training experience.
Maybe so, but what NATO has that Russia doesn't at this point is a functioning army with abundant supplies, where as Russia is pissing it all away in Ukraine for minimal gain or even losses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What of the officers? The commanders? The generals?
Ukrainians are commanded and advised by NATO officers and generals, it's an open secret, so it's basically the same
>Maybe so, but what NATO has that Russia doesn't at this point is a functioning army with abundant supplies, where as Russia is pissing it all away in Ukraine for minimal gain or even losses.
I wouldn't say their army isn't functioning, they're making gains while NATO is losing ground.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they're making gains
2 years ago
Anonymous
> while nato is losing ground
Frick me the cope is unreal with this homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well then certainly you have captured one of these officers? To show the world? Or do they self destruct or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
NATO gained 2 whole countries
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not as of today.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Show me on the map the Nato units being pushed back in Ukraine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also Russians now have actual combat experience
lol
lmao
You mean other than being 10x better equipped, 5x better trained, having complete air dominance, crushing advantage in firepower and 20x larger economy behind them?
12 Caesars destroyed 84 russian SPAs with no casualties.
They have functioning air support, SEAD, and precision guided weapons that can be deployed on a tactical level. A NATO forward air controlman is functionally identical to a Battlemage from a Russian perspective.
>8 years of training a formerly (and for the most part still more than a little) Soviet-oriented military force >"Excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers >Actual NATO soldiers >Troops that are members of militaries whose doctrines have been steeped in *decades* of training to fight and dismantle Soviet-organized military forces in large-scale conventional war
You're disrespectfully moronic and need to go leave.
that are members of militaries whose doctrines have been steeped in *decades* of training to fight and dismantle Soviet-organized military forces in large-scale conventional war
Lmao what nato country has active trained for fighting soviets for the past 30 years? They are all trained for fighting afghans who cant shoot back with anything bigger than an RPG and this is seen every time NATO forces train against Finland and lose miserably when they dont realise this time the enemy has sigint and artillery and modern antitank weapons.
Russia's threat is overrated. They're reliant on foreign components for their war machine, and we will deprive them of such. Their economy needs energy sales to survive. We will gradually take that from them.
All the nukes in the world can't stop the Russian economy from collapsing.
Oh yea we are really gonna topple russia when the price of electricity has tripled and the price of gasoline almost doubled thanks to us sanctioning russia. Meanwhile they sell their oil to third world countries which sell it then to europeans for inflated prices. The sanctions are really really not working and will end up destroying the economy of europe (european leaders dont care because they take their marching orders from US and the sanctions arent affecting the americans nearly as hard). Its a fricking joke the ruble has only gotten stronger. Maybe eventually cutting them off from high tech imports will slow their weapons production but for now they have giant piles of soviet junk warehoused for a real ww3 scenario and we are looking at real possibility energy rationing and 10x increase in energy prices come winter.
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
Then the incentive is on crushing Russia faster.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>doubled
It hasn‘t ,here in germany the price has been going down again and it was never close to being double.Diesel is still really fricking expensive but it‘s not doubled either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>European leaders don't care about their own nations they're just US puppet states
Did you fall on your head this morning or something.
They might be pro globohomosexual but they're not US puppets that don't care about their countries you mongoloid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they're not US puppets that don't care about their countries you mongoloid.
Yeah, they really showed us that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"we" > "us"
Shut the frick up, vatBlack person. You have nothing to contribute here.
Russia is flush with cash thanks to high energy prices right now and can thus endure years with disrupted exports. China can absorb everything Russia exports as soon as they can reconfigure the export infrastructure. China should be able to substitute almost all machinery and electronics that Russia needs with the sanctions-proof supply chains China is building thanks to Trump's export controls. Russia will get a worse deal due to reduced bargaining power, however their economy will hardly collapse. Chinese sanctions-proof semiconductors might be 15 years behind state of the art, still that is good enough for 99% of industrial and military needs.
I'd be more worried about Germany, and by extension the EU. German industry will likely wither and die as it tries to compete internationally while powered by windmills and expensive LNG deals they have to take under duress.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>powered by windmills and expensive LNG deals
lignite mines are being restarted - cheaper fuel than gas... they will burn it to get cheap and dirty electricity and reduce gas consumption...
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is a temporary solution only. Coal or nuclear is to be phased out. This is an ideological imperative. Wind is the long term solution, and gas is needed when wind doesn't blow enough.
Also gas is needed as chemical industry feedstock.
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
And when Putin's regime collapses due to losing the war?
All the Russian artillery on Earth can't undo a simple fact.
When HIMARS wipes out all Russian ammo supplies, their advances die. They're totally reliant on massed artillery spamming.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doesn't that just mean the offensive will slow down due to needing to distribute and hide the ammunition stores more and use more of a "just in time" approach to logistics?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>switch to a distributed distribution system >also switch to JIT logistics
serious question: does this sound like something the russians are capable of doing? does this sound like anything any country that didn't invent waffle house, wal mart, fed ex, ups, and amazon could pull off?
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
The Russian military doesn't even have fricking pallets. They have to load everything by hand, as time-consuming as that is.
It's also far more manpower intensive. Keep in mind, the Russians need manpower to advance BUT that means handicapping their logistical section to scavenge up manpower there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>time-consuming
only if you're an estrogen-soaked western woman. real men can toss those shells around like they're babies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ukraine is playing for time and you want Russia to slow down? The Russian war machine is on a clock. Wrecking the ammo supply distribution will seriously mess that clock up.
The Ukrainians learn much faster than the Russians. Benefits of a decentralized command system.
Frick off back to PrepHole namehomosexual, I heard there are a lot of vatniks there for you to troll
Just look at this thread lmao
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/129795339/#129799894
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
Ukraine is playing for time and you want Russia to slow down? The Russian war machine is on a clock. Wrecking the ammo supply distribution will seriously mess that clock up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would Putin's regime collapse from a bad performance in the war? Germany almost reached Moscow, was Stalin overthrown by that?
Especially when Putin can say, as an excuse, that he is fighting all of NATO, not just Ukraine.
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
Because Russia has lied to its people non-stop about the progress of the war.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What intolerable lies have they told? Are they claiming territorial gains where there are none? And even if they have lied, so what? Why can't they just make up new lies to explain the previous lies' incongruence with reality? Is Stalin known for his strict adherence to the truth? Is lying not what politicians everywhere do all the time?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter.
Saddam lost 2 wars mounting 10 times more lies than Putin. And Saddam did fine. Fighting unarmed protesters is so much easier and fun than enemy military. And dictatorships has no moral obstacles to mowing down civilians.
2 years ago
Based Charlie Magne Poster
Then the Ukrainians have zero incentive not to try to kill all the Russians, since the Russians plan to exterminate them anyway and take their land from them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And when Putin's regime collapses due to losing the war?
All the Russian artillery on Earth can't undo a simple fact.
When HIMARS wipes out all Russian ammo supplies, their advances die. They're totally reliant on massed artillery spamming.
Russia will eventually end up like Venezuela or North Korea, fully depending on resource exports to maintain a certain standard of living for the elite.
But the Russians won't do anything. 70% support the war, probably more, and the whole nation never knew democracy or individualism. You live, work and suffer for the emperor and endure it because 'he knows what he is doing' has been the Russian way of life since the first Rus looked at the Moscow area.
With enough propaganda and drugs you can even feel happy and pretend like the world is just how it's supposed to be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Putin has nowhere near the power of Stalin.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Russian economy is already collapsing. China will pay monopsony prices for their resources while any high tech imports to Russia will no longer be possible in high quantities.
Having a pentium 2 copy is fine for your washing machine, it's not for your fighter jet, server or cloud computing needs.
Russia doesn't produce the necessary vehicles, machines or tools to maintain a manufacturing industry that could maintain losses or even build military equipment in peace time. There is a reason we see T-62s and not T-14s in Ukraine. A lack of sanctions and essential imports are not part of this reason.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-ukraine-news/1-6-trillion-ruble-hole-in-russian-budget-the-moscow-times/
https://www.oreanda.ru/en/finansy/the-ministry-of-finance-proposed-to-reduce-budget-expenditures-on-state-programs-/article1436528/
Record Oil Revenues (In Euros) and losses.
Revenues are not Profits
2 years ago
Anonymous
So flush with cash they cant pay their MIC companies and had to pass a law forcing to work once they refused to work until paid >The Kremlin proposed an amendment to federal laws on Russian Armed Forces supply matters to the Russian State Duma on June 30, that would introduce “special measures in the economic sphere” obliging Russian businesses (regardless of ownership) to supply Russian special military and counterterrorist operations. The amendment would prohibit Russian businesses from refusing to accept state orders for special military operations and allow the Kremlin to change employee contracts and work conditions, such as forcing workers to work during the night or federal holidays. The Kremlin noted in the amendment’s description that the ongoing special military operation in Ukraine exposed supply shortages, specifically materials needed to repair military equipment, and stated that Russian officials need to “concentrate their efforts in certain sectors of the economy. >Russian government’s inability to pay Russian firms supporting Russia’s war in Ukraine is degrading Russia’s ability to repair damaged vehicles. The GUR reported that the directors of Russian military vehicle repair centers are not accepting new Russian equipment for repair because the Russian military has not paid these centers for previous work.[7] Recently proposed Russian legislation suggests that Kremlin leadership shares GUR’s assessment. Russian legislators in the Russian State Duma submitted a bill on June 30 that would empower the Kremlin to introduce “special measures in the economic sphere” enabling the Russian government to force private Russian companies to provide supplies for Russian military operations. The bill prohibits Russian businesses from refusing to fulfil Russian government procurement orders connected to Russian military operations.
To be a true game changer it should have been introduced on mass. The Russians will just adapt to it quickly and the effect of the HIMARs will be quickly nullified.
>OPSEC [ *redacted* ]
It's unclear. It seems at least six have already been delivered, and between 14 and 20 are the total number pledged. With substantial amounts of ammo, training, and spare parts. At least three countries have each given or pledged, and they all seem a bit spooky about exactly how many and actual date of delivery. The U.S. has also pledged even more to come, but is being coy about how many and when.
Belgorod and Melitopol in the past 24 hours look like they may be the first use on the battlefield. Melitopol specifically reported both missile strikes and artillery strikes in combination, meaning HIMARS may have been coordinated with something like the m777s. The number of missile strikes reported suggests that accounts for 4 platforms, two for each target. The rout at Snake Island suggests that Russia noticed something that would wipe the island clean was being put in place, and that suggests HIMARS as one very high probability.
Anecdotal evidence of already deployed units, and we know for a fact that Ukrainians are training in Germany and Poland, and have been for a while. So, they're probably being deployed or about to.
Safe to say 10 at minimum are physically in Ukraine and being positioned for specific missions, maybe as many as 20 within another two weeks or so. Might be 50-ish by September or October ..? We'll just have to keep watching the news.
Russia blasting every city it captures to hell (i.e no infrastructure) should be exploited by the Ukrainians.
Without any surviving local infrastructure, the Russians are totally dependent on concentrations of supplies just for the occupiers to survive among piles of rubble.
Wreck it all, and the occupiers will be forced to move for simple lack of supplies (including food).
Probably the plan. There's already a cholera outbreak in Mariupol because the water infrastructure got destroyed. The Russian soldiers are dependent on water trucks and cholera meds (that the locals don't get access to)
>face it, you're nation wreckers serving the israelite
Remind me again who had to publicly apologize to Israel over words and actions, and who went on stage during their biggest national holiday to speak about how diversity is their strength?
I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Americans
I cant think of a more horrible fate than being an brown-skinned person talking some sort of twisted SEAmonkey language or bastardized spanish, while simping for russia of all places.
t. not american
>You still seethe to this day, and you weren't even born then.
You don't know shit about who I am or where I'm from. You however, outed yourself pretty clearly.
To be a true game changer it should have been introduced on mass. The Russians will just adapt to it quickly and the effect of the HIMARs will be quickly nullified.
Lmao
Ukranian soldiers have been trained for 8 years by NATO and are equipped by NATO weapons so they're an excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers.
>Begging for nato scraps >Literally like 10 himars and zero air power
At this point it's obvious fricking poland would absolutely curb stomp Russia 1v1, if anybody else joined in it'd just be sad. You shills are pathetic.
>facing NATO
U wot mate? NATO has supplied: >couple thousand antiarmor missiles >handful of artillery >small arms >whatever intelligence we feel comfortable releasing
But also >no air support >no troops >no naval assets >no western tanks >no medium range missiles >no EW assets
Thinking this says anything about NATO capabilities you are delusional. If Russia is fighting with one hand behind their back, NATO is throwing rocks offhand from the other room while watching Sopranos reruns on TV.
Russia is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
>Wehrmacht is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
That’s correct. While France was advancing they were winning.
The difference between 1941 Wehrmacht & Napoleonic France and Russia is that the Wehrmacht and French were actually moving forward, and the Russians are moving backwards
They got through after being stuck for a long time. Now it's moving again and we'll just have to wait and see if they get stuck like that again.
Now Ukraine won't face the same threat of enrciclement so they won't just leave the same way they did in Lysychansk
We didnt know that back in 1941, but Germany effectively lost the war by Sept 1941 (conclusion of the Battle of Smolensk), as it became apparent that they failed to complete the campaign before winter started and didnt even plan for it to last longer than few month. As soon as Soviets absorbed the first blow they wouldnt surrender no matter what, and it was a matter of time for allies to ramp up the military production and overwhelm Nazis.
>Russia is winning. >When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory" >When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning"
Damn, just look at all of these victories
>La Grande Armée is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
For having supposedly absolutely zero effect the russian fanboys (maybe it is Hugh from Manchester oblast?) sure seems adamant about the sanctions having to be lifted.
"butthurt belter" here. laughing as you scum get butchered (and have a nice day) in Ukraine. i do hope you come here as well, I've always wanted to kill Russians
Reminder - that babushka quite literally worships Pootin. They all have to die from toddlers to elders, all of them.
That's tragic. Not her fault, it's all she knows from the local media/gossiping on the street. Never blame the people of a nation, especially the elderly who literally can't know better because they have no access to other info
My favorite are the 500 word long rationalizations about how Russia taking their objectives means russia is really losing.
And also the the shill posts about how America didn't lose in the GWOT, but America losing in the GWOT proves that Russia will also lose to insurgency in Ukraine.
>50, paragraph long responses
If you say something that is so foundationally and fractally wrong, that it takes that many words to correct you, that means you are being the obtuse dumbass not us.
Pro-tip: pretending to be a weetodded dumbass (for willful, political reasons) can be indistinguishable from being a weetodded dumbass (for uncontrollable, neurological reasons.)
>every time. you people are automatons
No. We are kindly trying to educate your trifling ass, you smooth-brained chimp.
if HIMARs are game changers
why did america lose in iraq and afghanistan?
war =/= counter insurgency
How convenient
How disingenuous
Counter insurgency is more like policing rather than actual field combat. You vatBlack folk need to really learn how to use propaganda.
>loses horribly against guys whose best kit is an 50 year old ak and some dirty robes
>cope vicariously through Ukos getting btfo after retreating from said cavemen
horribly against guys whose best kit is an 50 year old ak and some dirty robes
But enough about the Soviet Union in the 80s.
>cope
We're not /misc/tards though
>Russians don't breed like roaches like the taliban
America needs to lose to the Russians like they did the Taliban, maybe then we'd be rid of vatBlack folk.
Congratz to the most moronic take of the week. You really gave your best and it shows!
>Congratz to the most moronic t-ACK!
Ez win against the vodkaBlack folk. What the matter? The phone call where the vatBlack person shat himself about the fighting was really entertaining 🙂
Kek that fricking air support. They probably didn't even knew what hit them. Russia would be simply obliterated by NATO in such a manor that many generations afterwards would still laugh about it. Their airforce such a joke that it would be kind of like cheating if NATO uses its own.
>the cope
>the seethe
beautiful
lma fricking o
just teasing them a bit with what a real war would be like, and this was but the slightest of appetizers
Those were a different game altogether.
insurgency vs field warfare
the USA w/ NATO via Art 5 also won the actual war, but lost against the insurgency
SandBlack folk are better fighters and better equipped than the russian army of course.
When did we "lose" Iraq, moron?
>Today, the United States and Iraq both consider themselves as strategic partners, given the American political and military involvement after the invasion of Iraq and their mutual, deep-rooted relationship that followed. The United States provides the Iraqi security forces millions of dollars of military aid and training annually as well as uses its military bases.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq-United_States_relations
>no reply
Vatniks are not human
Iran has a great influence over Iraq now, they were enemies. This is how bad the US fricked up lmao
>shitskins
>working together
Yeah, sure.
>US lost in Iraq
how many layers of cope are we on here
A vatnik told me today that the US lost because we only 'hold' the green zone...
Kek
We didn't lose either, or Vietnam since I know that will be your next move shill. Our politicians are weak not our soldiers or weapons.
we didn't lose, it was a tactical retreat
>AMERIKKKA LOST IN IRAQ
t. Saddam
>Be dictator of shit arab nation that rules by fear and torture
>doesn't have multiple opulent bunkers connected by underground rail network
>doesn't have multiple opulent bunkers connected by underground rail network
He'd have never reached the power of the Kims, but he did have a bunch of bunkers. Then the US figured out how to destroy them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTq9yb_Zow
Very neat, thanks anon
USA didn't win against Iraq, Iraq fell because of internal sectarian division
literally putin right now being bunker b***h lmao
Not enough HIMARS obviously. Or maybe the Taliban are a stronger fighting force than Russia.
But America won in Iraq.
Gesture of good will
Contrary to your Russian military tactics, you don't use rocket artillery like HIMARS against civilians and civilian targets. Though Obama decided using drones for that was totally okay for some reason
>you don't use rocket artillery like HIMARS against civilians and civilian targets.
So, what where they target in belgorod yesterday?
And will we see an artillery duel between the HIMARS and the new TOS-2 Tosochka. With all the drone around the battlefield we might even see it soon after it happen.
>So, what where they target in belgorod yesterday?
Removing russians is pest control
>artillery duel
>between western made MLRS and whatever the frick trash Russia can build
lol, lmao even
>what where they target in belgorod yesterday?
There was no HIMARS rocket on Belgorod
>And will we see an artillery duel between the HIMARS and the new TOS-2 Tosochka
Four HIMARS already destroyed two military bases, several ammo dumps and train, how long we have to wait until TOS-2 arrives?
>HIMARS artillery duel
>with a TOS-2
>and its blistering max range of 10km
Lol, in this duel is the TOS allowed to cross the frontline and drive 60 km into enemy territory to make it fair?
Russia also lost in Afghanistan
If Ukraine has the right to self-determination, then why did the US nuke Japan? Checkmate, atheists.
It was a feint obviously.
They didn't. Iraq they left a democratic nation, even letting them elect a government that opposed them. Afghanistan they got tired of giving free shit and left, then their government - too cowardly to fight - surrendered to the Taliban who came out of the holes they'd been hiding in.
Did you know that Russia took more dead in the first TWO WEEKS of Ukraine than the US did in the entire Afghanistan War? Of course you did.
bump
>America managed to capture 100% of Afghanistan and still lost in the insurgency phase
>Russia only managed 15% of Ukraine and still hasn't made it to the insurgency phase yet, and somehow they'll win
America didn't lose the insurgency phase, it lost the domestic political phase. The American people saw no benefit to continuing to prop up the afghani government.
the Afghans sucked. so few of them even wanted to defend themselves.
The bizarre thing was the expectation that the afghans would fight to the death to avoid being taken over by afghanistan
>the domestic political phase
that's not a 'phase' numbnuts
>Iraq
>Saddam is gone and now the U.S. will train Iraq security forces
>Iraqi Security Forces are extremely moronic and have no concept of a country/state
>'WHY IS MY SON DYING IN IRAQ STILL?!? THE BOYS NEED TO COME HOME'
>Massive U.S. Troop withdrawal because soldiers need to come back home
>2014
>Holy frick, the Islam murder horde is here in Iraq and sweeping through the entire third world including Africa
>Mass desertions see pic related
>Soldiers literally stripping their uniform and gear so they don't get shot by ISIS literally strolling through towns and recruiting more fighters
>Same soldiers who deserted the army are also now joining ISIS
>Afghanistan
>Coalition forces have destroyed the Taliban and will train the Afghani military to be self-sufficient when coalition forces leave
>Afghani Security Forces are just as moronic except they are high on heroin and frick little boys
>'WHY IS MY SON DYING IN AFGHANISTAN STILL?!? THE BOYS NEED TO COME HOME'
>Massive U.S. Troop withdrawal because soldiers need to come back home
>Afghani also have no concept of a country/state or the concept of 'democracy' and 'voting'
>The military i.e. glorified police are paid $13 a week to get shot at and blown up by leftover Taliban cells
>Identify more with their villages warlord who are also 86km away from the capital of Kabul and plumbing and electricity
>Taliban take over the government again
You can't help people who don't want to be helped
HIMARs entered service too late to see service in Iraq (the 2003-2011 war) and only saw extremely limited service in Afghanistan. When they were used though, they were used to great effect. For example, 50 Taliban officers died in a strike in Musa Qala in 2018 when a volley of HIMAR rockets struck the building they were meeting in at 14 second intervals.
HAHAHAHAHA
>why did america lose in iraq and afghanistan?
We won those wars easily. We stayed in there for over 10years. Turns out, you can't rule a people that hate you and shoot at you. Should have killed 70% of their entire populations then inserted our own, in my humble opinion. That's how ancient civilizations did it and it WORKED.
If Chewbacca is Wookie from the planet Kashyyyk
why doe he live on Endor?
Please send more!
Can't they shoot the bridge to Kherson?
>HIMARS derails trains
>vatniks derail thread
I think the Russian prognosis is grim if their already sub-par logistics and rear area infrastructure is getting dunked on by a bare handful of modern western MLRS.
Enjoy your five month late day 1 objective, I'm sure the absolute ruin of that province was worth the hundreds of thousands of bodies you threw at it. Just make sure you actually hold on to it this time unlike what happened in Kyiv and Kharkiv!
More phantom trains destroyed? Russia is in trouble now!
Your post is a sad cope for taking 6 months to capture a tiny border providence
*tiny border province that they already controlled half of
I know this is probably bait but not a single NATO soldier is on the ground in Ukraine, and Russia is still losing.
Ukranian soldiers have been trained for 8 years by NATO and are equipped by NATO weapons so they're an excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers.
>so they're an excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers.
Yeah, the special military operation really would've ended in two weeks if they were fighting actually NATO soldiers.
Unfortunately, it would not be two weeks to Kyiv, it would be two weeks to Moscow.
Ukrianian soldiers have been trained by NATO soldiers and use the same equipment as NATO soldiers, actual NATO soldiers don't have any magical powers that would make them more effective.
>actual NATO soldiers don't have any magical powers that would make them more effective.
They have more than 8 years of training, and complete access to the combined NATO air force and navies.
no they don't
>NATO doesn't have access to NATO
???
>not realizing that just like in ukraine, russia's hypersonic missiles will destroy 517% of NATO's air, land, and naval forces within the first 16 seconds of conflict
didn't one of russia's flagship literally ACK itself lol
Can confirm. I am ebil HATO soldier and I already am dead.
>when the hypersonic travel so fast they fly through time and kill you in the future
Terrifying.
>NATO doesn't have access to a fricking air force or navy
holy shit anon please stop going onto /misc/, that board is destroying your brain.
>They have more than 8 years of training,
8 years is more than enough, a soldier retires on average at 50
Also Russians now have actual combat experience while NATO only has training experience.
>8 years is more than enough, a soldier retires on average at 50
What of the officers? The commanders? The generals?
>Also Russians now have actual combat experience while NATO only has training experience.
Maybe so, but what NATO has that Russia doesn't at this point is a functioning army with abundant supplies, where as Russia is pissing it all away in Ukraine for minimal gain or even losses.
>What of the officers? The commanders? The generals?
Ukrainians are commanded and advised by NATO officers and generals, it's an open secret, so it's basically the same
>Maybe so, but what NATO has that Russia doesn't at this point is a functioning army with abundant supplies, where as Russia is pissing it all away in Ukraine for minimal gain or even losses.
I wouldn't say their army isn't functioning, they're making gains while NATO is losing ground.
>they're making gains
> while nato is losing ground
Frick me the cope is unreal with this homosexual
Well then certainly you have captured one of these officers? To show the world? Or do they self destruct or something?
NATO gained 2 whole countries
Not as of today.
Show me on the map the Nato units being pushed back in Ukraine.
>Also Russians now have actual combat experience
lol
lmao
You mean other than being 10x better equipped, 5x better trained, having complete air dominance, crushing advantage in firepower and 20x larger economy behind them?
12 Caesars destroyed 84 russian SPAs with no casualties.
They have functioning air support, SEAD, and precision guided weapons that can be deployed on a tactical level. A NATO forward air controlman is functionally identical to a Battlemage from a Russian perspective.
>8 years of training a formerly (and for the most part still more than a little) Soviet-oriented military force
>"Excellent test of what would happen to actual NATO soldiers
>Actual NATO soldiers
>Troops that are members of militaries whose doctrines have been steeped in *decades* of training to fight and dismantle Soviet-organized military forces in large-scale conventional war
You're disrespectfully moronic and need to go leave.
that are members of militaries whose doctrines have been steeped in *decades* of training to fight and dismantle Soviet-organized military forces in large-scale conventional war
Lmao what nato country has active trained for fighting soviets for the past 30 years? They are all trained for fighting afghans who cant shoot back with anything bigger than an RPG and this is seen every time NATO forces train against Finland and lose miserably when they dont realise this time the enemy has sigint and artillery and modern antitank weapons.
Russia's threat is overrated. They're reliant on foreign components for their war machine, and we will deprive them of such. Their economy needs energy sales to survive. We will gradually take that from them.
All the nukes in the world can't stop the Russian economy from collapsing.
Oh yea we are really gonna topple russia when the price of electricity has tripled and the price of gasoline almost doubled thanks to us sanctioning russia. Meanwhile they sell their oil to third world countries which sell it then to europeans for inflated prices. The sanctions are really really not working and will end up destroying the economy of europe (european leaders dont care because they take their marching orders from US and the sanctions arent affecting the americans nearly as hard). Its a fricking joke the ruble has only gotten stronger. Maybe eventually cutting them off from high tech imports will slow their weapons production but for now they have giant piles of soviet junk warehoused for a real ww3 scenario and we are looking at real possibility energy rationing and 10x increase in energy prices come winter.
Then the incentive is on crushing Russia faster.
>doubled
It hasn‘t ,here in germany the price has been going down again and it was never close to being double.Diesel is still really fricking expensive but it‘s not doubled either.
>European leaders don't care about their own nations they're just US puppet states
Did you fall on your head this morning or something.
They might be pro globohomosexual but they're not US puppets that don't care about their countries you mongoloid.
>they're not US puppets that don't care about their countries you mongoloid.
Yeah, they really showed us that.
>"we"
> "us"
Shut the frick up, vatBlack person. You have nothing to contribute here.
Russia is flush with cash thanks to high energy prices right now and can thus endure years with disrupted exports. China can absorb everything Russia exports as soon as they can reconfigure the export infrastructure. China should be able to substitute almost all machinery and electronics that Russia needs with the sanctions-proof supply chains China is building thanks to Trump's export controls. Russia will get a worse deal due to reduced bargaining power, however their economy will hardly collapse. Chinese sanctions-proof semiconductors might be 15 years behind state of the art, still that is good enough for 99% of industrial and military needs.
I'd be more worried about Germany, and by extension the EU. German industry will likely wither and die as it tries to compete internationally while powered by windmills and expensive LNG deals they have to take under duress.
>powered by windmills and expensive LNG deals
lignite mines are being restarted - cheaper fuel than gas... they will burn it to get cheap and dirty electricity and reduce gas consumption...
It is a temporary solution only. Coal or nuclear is to be phased out. This is an ideological imperative. Wind is the long term solution, and gas is needed when wind doesn't blow enough.
Also gas is needed as chemical industry feedstock.
And when Putin's regime collapses due to losing the war?
All the Russian artillery on Earth can't undo a simple fact.
When HIMARS wipes out all Russian ammo supplies, their advances die. They're totally reliant on massed artillery spamming.
Doesn't that just mean the offensive will slow down due to needing to distribute and hide the ammunition stores more and use more of a "just in time" approach to logistics?
>switch to a distributed distribution system
>also switch to JIT logistics
serious question: does this sound like something the russians are capable of doing? does this sound like anything any country that didn't invent waffle house, wal mart, fed ex, ups, and amazon could pull off?
The Russian military doesn't even have fricking pallets. They have to load everything by hand, as time-consuming as that is.
It's also far more manpower intensive. Keep in mind, the Russians need manpower to advance BUT that means handicapping their logistical section to scavenge up manpower there.
>time-consuming
only if you're an estrogen-soaked western woman. real men can toss those shells around like they're babies.
Frick off back to PrepHole namehomosexual, I heard there are a lot of vatniks there for you to troll
Just look at this thread lmao
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/129795339/#129799894
Ukraine is playing for time and you want Russia to slow down? The Russian war machine is on a clock. Wrecking the ammo supply distribution will seriously mess that clock up.
Why would Putin's regime collapse from a bad performance in the war? Germany almost reached Moscow, was Stalin overthrown by that?
Especially when Putin can say, as an excuse, that he is fighting all of NATO, not just Ukraine.
Because Russia has lied to its people non-stop about the progress of the war.
What intolerable lies have they told? Are they claiming territorial gains where there are none? And even if they have lied, so what? Why can't they just make up new lies to explain the previous lies' incongruence with reality? Is Stalin known for his strict adherence to the truth? Is lying not what politicians everywhere do all the time?
Doesn't matter.
Saddam lost 2 wars mounting 10 times more lies than Putin. And Saddam did fine. Fighting unarmed protesters is so much easier and fun than enemy military. And dictatorships has no moral obstacles to mowing down civilians.
Then the Ukrainians have zero incentive not to try to kill all the Russians, since the Russians plan to exterminate them anyway and take their land from them.
Russia will eventually end up like Venezuela or North Korea, fully depending on resource exports to maintain a certain standard of living for the elite.
But the Russians won't do anything. 70% support the war, probably more, and the whole nation never knew democracy or individualism. You live, work and suffer for the emperor and endure it because 'he knows what he is doing' has been the Russian way of life since the first Rus looked at the Moscow area.
With enough propaganda and drugs you can even feel happy and pretend like the world is just how it's supposed to be.
Putin has nowhere near the power of Stalin.
The Russian economy is already collapsing. China will pay monopsony prices for their resources while any high tech imports to Russia will no longer be possible in high quantities.
Having a pentium 2 copy is fine for your washing machine, it's not for your fighter jet, server or cloud computing needs.
Russia doesn't produce the necessary vehicles, machines or tools to maintain a manufacturing industry that could maintain losses or even build military equipment in peace time. There is a reason we see T-62s and not T-14s in Ukraine. A lack of sanctions and essential imports are not part of this reason.
https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-ukraine-news/1-6-trillion-ruble-hole-in-russian-budget-the-moscow-times/
https://www.oreanda.ru/en/finansy/the-ministry-of-finance-proposed-to-reduce-budget-expenditures-on-state-programs-/article1436528/
Record Oil Revenues (In Euros) and losses.
Revenues are not Profits
So flush with cash they cant pay their MIC companies and had to pass a law forcing to work once they refused to work until paid
>The Kremlin proposed an amendment to federal laws on Russian Armed Forces supply matters to the Russian State Duma on June 30, that would introduce “special measures in the economic sphere” obliging Russian businesses (regardless of ownership) to supply Russian special military and counterterrorist operations. The amendment would prohibit Russian businesses from refusing to accept state orders for special military operations and allow the Kremlin to change employee contracts and work conditions, such as forcing workers to work during the night or federal holidays. The Kremlin noted in the amendment’s description that the ongoing special military operation in Ukraine exposed supply shortages, specifically materials needed to repair military equipment, and stated that Russian officials need to “concentrate their efforts in certain sectors of the economy.
>Russian government’s inability to pay Russian firms supporting Russia’s war in Ukraine is degrading Russia’s ability to repair damaged vehicles. The GUR reported that the directors of Russian military vehicle repair centers are not accepting new Russian equipment for repair because the Russian military has not paid these centers for previous work.[7] Recently proposed Russian legislation suggests that Kremlin leadership shares GUR’s assessment. Russian legislators in the Russian State Duma submitted a bill on June 30 that would empower the Kremlin to introduce “special measures in the economic sphere” enabling the Russian government to force private Russian companies to provide supplies for Russian military operations. The bill prohibits Russian businesses from refusing to fulfil Russian government procurement orders connected to Russian military operations.
It would be over in no time since they would reign the skies
Actual NATO soldiers would be taking dancing tiktoks in all major cities in Russia 2 months ago if they went to war 25th of February.
Vatnikbros, its over, cuckrainians won in twitter again...
To be a true game changer it should have been introduced on mass. The Russians will just adapt to it quickly and the effect of the HIMARs will be quickly nullified.
Why don't you lads go post on r/Ukraine. Same moronic wonder weapon post over there
you first
>Same moronic wonder weapon post over there
i wouldn't know, why do you? go back
Why do you /misc/Black folk post the dumbest picrels on PrepHole. You have no idea how much you skyline yourselves with this cringe shit.
DUDE THE UKRAINIANS JUST GOT THE RAYGUN IN THE MYSTERY BOX THEY WILL SURELY WIN NOW
Your mom got a taste of Ukrainian wonder weapons last night.
they would be in large numbers. Ukraine has what, 4 of them right now?
>OPSEC [ *redacted* ]
It's unclear. It seems at least six have already been delivered, and between 14 and 20 are the total number pledged. With substantial amounts of ammo, training, and spare parts. At least three countries have each given or pledged, and they all seem a bit spooky about exactly how many and actual date of delivery. The U.S. has also pledged even more to come, but is being coy about how many and when.
Belgorod and Melitopol in the past 24 hours look like they may be the first use on the battlefield. Melitopol specifically reported both missile strikes and artillery strikes in combination, meaning HIMARS may have been coordinated with something like the m777s. The number of missile strikes reported suggests that accounts for 4 platforms, two for each target. The rout at Snake Island suggests that Russia noticed something that would wipe the island clean was being put in place, and that suggests HIMARS as one very high probability.
Anecdotal evidence of already deployed units, and we know for a fact that Ukrainians are training in Germany and Poland, and have been for a while. So, they're probably being deployed or about to.
Safe to say 10 at minimum are physically in Ukraine and being positioned for specific missions, maybe as many as 20 within another two weeks or so. Might be 50-ish by September or October ..? We'll just have to keep watching the news.
Belgorod was single Tochka, not HIMARS
Russia blasting every city it captures to hell (i.e no infrastructure) should be exploited by the Ukrainians.
Without any surviving local infrastructure, the Russians are totally dependent on concentrations of supplies just for the occupiers to survive among piles of rubble.
Wreck it all, and the occupiers will be forced to move for simple lack of supplies (including food).
Probably the plan. There's already a cholera outbreak in Mariupol because the water infrastructure got destroyed. The Russian soldiers are dependent on water trucks and cholera meds (that the locals don't get access to)
Disease is going to become rampant among the Russian ranks. The fools blew up everything. That includes the hospitals.
>face it, you're nation wreckers serving the israelite
Remind me again who had to publicly apologize to Israel over words and actions, and who went on stage during their biggest national holiday to speak about how diversity is their strength?
I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Americans
Not him but both Russia and America constantly grovel in front of Israel. America is definitely worse, though.
>laughing at these mutt replies
>face it, you're nation wreckers serving the israelite
I cant think of a more horrible fate than being an brown-skinned person talking some sort of twisted SEAmonkey language or bastardized spanish, while simping for russia of all places.
t. not american
>t. not american
Yeah, we get it. You're an Eastern Euro butthurt belter.
At least he can afford a belt, Igor Somekikkovich.
Not worth much, if it's made out of butthurt.
Yeah, Russia's, from lossing them after the USSR. You still seethe to this day, and you weren't even born then.
>You still seethe to this day, and you weren't even born then.
You don't know shit about who I am or where I'm from. You however, outed yourself pretty clearly.
Lmao
>Begging for nato scraps
>Literally like 10 himars and zero air power
At this point it's obvious fricking poland would absolutely curb stomp Russia 1v1, if anybody else joined in it'd just be sad. You shills are pathetic.
Dunno about that since they havent mobilized yet and a mobilized Puccia might be another beast.
They said that about mobilizing for Ukraine and now it's four months later and nothing has happened.
But they havent mobilized yet since they dont declare it as a war. moronic, I know, but remember that Puccia has like 140 mil people as a population.
>2 million of untrained, moronic alcoholics running around with Mosin-Nagants screaming URAAAAA
Yeah, I wouldn't want to meet this "beast"
>facing NATO
U wot mate? NATO has supplied:
>couple thousand antiarmor missiles
>handful of artillery
>small arms
>whatever intelligence we feel comfortable releasing
But also
>no air support
>no troops
>no naval assets
>no western tanks
>no medium range missiles
>no EW assets
Thinking this says anything about NATO capabilities you are delusional. If Russia is fighting with one hand behind their back, NATO is throwing rocks offhand from the other room while watching Sopranos reruns on TV.
>surely this piecemeal modern lend-lease act of equipping Ukraine is how the full force of NATO would act in an actual conflict.
Russia is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
>Wehrmacht is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
That’s correct, although I don’t understand your point. From June until December 1941, roughly, Germany was winning.
The difference between 1941 Wehrmacht & Napoleonic France and Russia is that the Wehrmacht and French were actually moving forward, and the Russians are moving backwards
Yep, and yet all their logistical problems that everyone knew would show eventually, fricked them.
Also, Russia isn't exactly making advances, kek
They got through after being stuck for a long time. Now it's moving again and we'll just have to wait and see if they get stuck like that again.
Now Ukraine won't face the same threat of enrciclement so they won't just leave the same way they did in Lysychansk
The Ukrainians learn much faster than the Russians. Benefits of a decentralized command system.
We didnt know that back in 1941, but Germany effectively lost the war by Sept 1941 (conclusion of the Battle of Smolensk), as it became apparent that they failed to complete the campaign before winter started and didnt even plan for it to last longer than few month. As soon as Soviets absorbed the first blow they wouldnt surrender no matter what, and it was a matter of time for allies to ramp up the military production and overwhelm Nazis.
The difference is that they made advances of thousands of kilometers in the same timeframe Russia went a few kilometers.
And the war was lost by fall as Russia got western land lease and aid and Germany was not prepared for a war lasting longer than a year.
>Russia is winning.
>When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory"
>When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning"
Damn, just look at all of these victories
!
>La Grande Armée is winning. When you push out defenders and take the land they were holding that’s called a "victory". When you pile up victories that general trajectory is called "winning". It’s honestly not hard to understand.
That’s correct. While France was advancing they were winning.
Literally should have been targeting trains since day 1. Vatnigs have zero logistics without them.
>HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?
I'VE MADE MY MISTAKES
>GOT NOWHERE TO RUN, THE NIGHT GOES ON AS I'M FADING AWAY
That project money must have funded a nice mansion for someone.
Yachts and private jets are more their thing, mansions can't be moved to other countries to avoid seizure.
>Yachts and private jets are more their thing
Hasn't stopped the west from seizing them kek. Italian authorities grabbed this $600 million Russian yacht in March
They should give the yachts to Ukraine on the condition that they be used as vacation boats to give Ukrainians cheap Black Sea cruises.
Before 2022 oligarchs were more worried by their wealth being taken by russia in case of falling from putin grace.
the "robot" has no gloves.
the world will soon tremble at Russia's might.
Russia is excessively dependent on trains for logistics.
Destroy. Them. All.
The real fun begins when the HIMARS begin blowing up the Russians up along the Eastern Front.
Got any more charlie magne images? I love that semen demon
RUSSIA YOU THINK ITS A GAME, ARF ARF ARF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90UjN98yzxc
For having supposedly absolutely zero effect the russian fanboys (maybe it is Hugh from Manchester oblast?) sure seems adamant about the sanctions having to be lifted.
I'm more interested in that gorilla action.
i-i-im not even g-g-going to reply
its because y-y-y-you lost ok
I get more (you)s here than I do on /misc/ it's actually fun
I can't tell if it's moronic Americans or butthurt belters
"butthurt belter" here. laughing as you scum get butchered (and have a nice day) in Ukraine. i do hope you come here as well, I've always wanted to kill Russians
Reminder - that babushka quite literally worships Pootin. They all have to die from toddlers to elders, all of them.
The contents of her plate always crack me the frick up. We have:
- bread
- buckwheat
- slimy, curling grey strips of God fricking knows what
That's tragic. Not her fault, it's all she knows from the local media/gossiping on the street. Never blame the people of a nation, especially the elderly who literally can't know better because they have no access to other info
> Never blame the people of a nation
Bullshit. People get the government they deserve.
54281971
I did it again mom, I replied to every post
>it's just ironic (you) farming, this is a great way to use my time
lol
>I spend my time shitposting endlessly about muh vatniks and giving (you)s to people looking for a laugh
>I'm not mad lol
Its not shitposting about vatniks. Just saying they are inbred asiatic mutts incapable of warfare. U mad shitskin? :^)
So how fast does the Russian Offensive begin to collapse when the supplies of ammo go up in flames?
Speculate.
Two more weeks
Take your moron posting back to r3ddit.
My favorite are the 500 word long rationalizations about how Russia taking their objectives means russia is really losing.
And also the the shill posts about how America didn't lose in the GWOT, but America losing in the GWOT proves that Russia will also lose to insurgency in Ukraine.
If this is what vatniks consider a victory, I'm scared to what a defeat would be.
>Napoleon is taking territory at breathtaking pace, won at Borodino and took Moscow, only frog shills will say Russia is winning
>Twitter
Gonna get this thread back on track cuz shills keep trying to derail it.
Here's what our beloved HIMARs have been doing the past couple days:
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543145454829031425
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543147263345696768
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543410720330637313
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543506312788590596
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543853627470761984
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543853627470761984
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543862190104608768
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1543925688020996097
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1544004121660952577
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1544004931161669635
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1544006097127849985
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1544019854256119813
PS: just now, Donetzk railway burning, think's fricked
>50, paragraph long responses
If you say something that is so foundationally and fractally wrong, that it takes that many words to correct you, that means you are being the obtuse dumbass not us.
Pro-tip: pretending to be a weetodded dumbass (for willful, political reasons) can be indistinguishable from being a weetodded dumbass (for uncontrollable, neurological reasons.)
>every time. you people are automatons
No. We are kindly trying to educate your trifling ass, you smooth-brained chimp.
Good on the UAF. Frick infantry combat when you are outshelled 10 to 1. Pull out and blow up all of their ammo and supply lines.
Iraq's transition to sovereignty has been one of the few bright spots of the 2003 Invasion.
"HEY GUYS I SAID SOMETHING STUPID AND YOU CORRECTED ME, LOOK HOW STUPID YOU ARE I'M SO GOOD AT BAITING AND TROLLING"