Imagine two warheads, one high explosive armor piercing and second a small needle. The first one blows a hole and bypasses defences why the needle goes into the armor creating hot shrapnel, plus whatever damage it does.
Unless that shingles and chickenwire roof isnt made of thick steel, it will only protect against grenades.
Also a nice faraday cage because why not, why would you need comms in a tank
that they put copecages on is that mobik wont be on their phones and give out their location but it makes harder to get out in case of evac and makes the tank more visible >mobik paradox
>UKRAINE IS A QUAGMIRE >YET TO DRAIN >FRENCH TANK DESTROYERS >SENT SERGEI UP IN FLAMES >ANDRUSHKA CALLED OUT >IN LOTS OF PAAAAAAIN >DELAYED RESERVISTS >AREN'T EVEN IN THE GAME
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T >THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T >DO MUCH FOR A DRONE >I MUST GOOOOOOO
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>I FEEL NAKED >NOTHING BUT A MOBIK, NO >BUT DID THEY FAKE IT >THE PROTECTION RATIO >AND WHAT DO YOU WANT? >I WANT A PASSAGE HOME >AND WHAT DO YOU GOT? >OH BLYAT IS THAT A DRONE?
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T >THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T >DO MUCH FOR A DRONE >BAKHMUT HOOOOOO!
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>TELL ME THERE IS ONLY ONE >TELL ME THERE'S NO OTHER ONE >JAVELINS NLAWS STORM SHADOW >LEOPARDS LOADING SABOT
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
Meet the new miracle of Russian military equipment - "T-55-MPK-2" ("Modernized with two spring beds"). Speed - Mach 26 in dense layers of the atmosphere, is practically invisible to radar and does not break through any types of artillery weapons of the period before the First World War. Next in line is the T-34-85, shown yesterday at the parade on Red Square.
If anything - we would have only a dozen of these T-55s in Slavyansk in May 2014 (with BC and trained crews or at least instructors capable of quickly training volunteers) - and Slavyansk would not only be retained. But "a good spoon for dinner." - And now, not a hundred tanks, thousands of other armored vehicles can even come close to Slavyansk ... But our leaders are AMAZING. Strategists of such a level that they manage to miscalculate even the most win-win situation and drive the enemy into a frenzy with continuous concessions and all sorts of de-escalations ... Grandmasters of the game of "geopolitical giveaways", not khuhry-muhry...
Ok guys, here me out.
The cage would actually protect against drone drops and the skirt armor could possibly work against rpgs.
This is one of the more functional cope cages coming out of Russia.
The guy who spot welded this shit together had a rough idea of what he wanted to achieve.
I mean shaped charge vogs specifically.
The cage should make them detonate at a distance, giving the tank a chance to not get penetrated.
Same with suicide drones, nets actually work decently well against them.
It even covers the engine, which is a first as far as I know.
It's not the same cargo cult shit as the normal cope cages or the absolute retardation in the OP.
>The cage would actually protect against drone drops
This was the entire purpose of "cope" cages from the beginning, after experiences made in Syria by the SAA fighting ISIS and US-backed rebels.
It was never meant to defend against top attack missiles such as the Javelin or any other form of HEAT warheads.
What is known is that increasing the distance at which the warhead is set off by adding such armou in many cases increases the effectivity of HEAT.
This is because in most cases, due to design limitations of the warhead itself, HEAT charges are not set off at the ideal distance to achieve maximum penetration, the fuze is too close to the liner / the HEAT charge itself.
If you wanted to make grenades or missiles with warheads that explode at the ideal distance, it would make them unpractically large, or long to be more accurate.
The RPG-7 warhead itself is a prime example of such a compromise between set-off length (the distance between the fuze and the warhead, and penetration value.
>This was the entire purpose of "cope" cages from the beginning, after experiences made in Syria by the SAA fighting ISIS and US-backed rebels.
Nice historical revisionism. The concept came about after Karabakh. The ruskies bona fide thought that the cages could protect against top attack munitions.
Its because javelins can still punch through them. Nevermind that cage armor has been used by americans themselves in the past. Also has to do with how rag tag they look, not at all professional.
I got the impression they were rigged up as a makeshift anti-drone-grenade defense, given all the drone footage. Don't know if that's true though but it sort of explains why they do it.
Simple - if it was from carbon fibre/teflon/vibranium you could hope, but cooe cages are routinelly made from class 11 steel which won't stop a hammer, let alone anything with velocity.
It honestly looks like a grift by someone who pushed bullshit to make quick buck.
SO WE PUT A CAGE ON YOUR CAGE
SO YOU CAN COPE WHILE YOU COPE
What are we supposed to do now? You heard we liked cope cages. So? How is this a basis for a discussion?
Welcome, newfag.
>FILTERED
I always get inordinately excited whenever we get new Russian T-55 pics and i don't know why.
It's not even a T-55, it's a T-54.
>T-54 Obr. 2023
We live in a timeline where this is a thing. Makes you think
how do you tell
Different anon, T-54 have a ventilator located on the front right of the turret. T-55s removed it for NBC protection iirc.
I don’t see it on OP’s pic
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qkkyGrdJkrM/Wa5NdrOlfwI/AAAAAAAAJRg/z-LSJqYx3-w4r_jeyj4ryFsIW8a0FDzYgCLcBGAs/s640/ventilator%2Bdome.png
thanks
Mhmmmm
This one might work
Though I am not 100% sure since I dont know everything about top attack AT warheads
Explosive formed penetrators laugh about cope cages.
Imagine two warheads, one high explosive armor piercing and second a small needle. The first one blows a hole and bypasses defences why the needle goes into the armor creating hot shrapnel, plus whatever damage it does.
Unless that shingles and chickenwire roof isnt made of thick steel, it will only protect against grenades.
Also a nice faraday cage because why not, why would you need comms in a tank
Russians are just protecting themselves from those nasty WiFi's that keep floating in the air
that they put copecages on is that mobik wont be on their phones and give out their location but it makes harder to get out in case of evac and makes the tank more visible
>mobik paradox
Ah yes, because the internet only works on radiowaves and not you know, fucking radios
You retard
DESPITE ALL MY CAGE
I AM STILL JUST A VATNIK IN DANGER
"Im still just vatnik in ATGM range" would sound better
DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
it might stop an NLAW overfly??
L E L
>spaced delusion dome
We are watching the wheel get reinvented in real-time
>UKRAINE IS A QUAGMIRE
>YET TO DRAIN
>FRENCH TANK DESTROYERS
>SENT SERGEI UP IN FLAMES
>ANDRUSHKA CALLED OUT
>IN LOTS OF PAAAAAAIN
>DELAYED RESERVISTS
>AREN'T EVEN IN THE GAME
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T
>THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T
>DO MUCH FOR A DRONE
>I MUST GOOOOOOO
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>I FEEL NAKED
>NOTHING BUT A MOBIK, NO
>BUT DID THEY FAKE IT
>THE PROTECTION RATIO
>AND WHAT DO YOU WANT?
>I WANT A PASSAGE HOME
>AND WHAT DO YOU GOT?
>OH BLYAT IS THAT A DRONE?
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T
>THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T
>DO MUCH FOR A DRONE
>BAKHMUT HOOOOOO!
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>TELL ME THERE IS ONLY ONE
>TELL ME THERE'S NO OTHER ONE
>JAVELINS NLAWS STORM SHADOW
>LEOPARDS LOADING SABOT
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
Really pretty good.
Alice in Chains work because you can hear the heroin pulsating through Layne's voice. How does this translate into krokodil-infused vatnik voices?
Maybe The Rooster would work
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
*
>is what I would say, if I was a vatnik shill
that punchline hits
Even Strelkov is shitting on it.
Meet the new miracle of Russian military equipment - "T-55-MPK-2" ("Modernized with two spring beds"). Speed - Mach 26 in dense layers of the atmosphere, is practically invisible to radar and does not break through any types of artillery weapons of the period before the First World War. Next in line is the T-34-85, shown yesterday at the parade on Red Square.
If anything - we would have only a dozen of these T-55s in Slavyansk in May 2014 (with BC and trained crews or at least instructors capable of quickly training volunteers) - and Slavyansk would not only be retained. But "a good spoon for dinner." - And now, not a hundred tanks, thousands of other armored vehicles can even come close to Slavyansk ... But our leaders are AMAZING. Strategists of such a level that they manage to miscalculate even the most win-win situation and drive the enemy into a frenzy with continuous concessions and all sorts of de-escalations ... Grandmasters of the game of "geopolitical giveaways", not khuhry-muhry...
I have to admit, I genuine enjoy Pickle's sarcasm. I think he missed his true calling as a syndicated newspaper columnist.
Sure he doesn't have any British ancestry? It's pushing that kind of satire.
His magnum opus was the Planet of Pink Ponies post
>not the Harry Potter fanfic
did anyone bother translating Girkin's foray into fanfiction to English?
harry potter one was solid platinum. Man also likes his vidya, he's made references to Master of Orion and Diablo several times
Gentlemen: BEHOLD
holy shit
Guderian would be so jealous.
Wrong pic.
those had a purpose, the tube was used for the antenna wire IIRC and it was only done on the command cars
IT EVOLVES into a protective field
it is not simply a cope cage anymore
it is a delusion dome
I'm thinking it is more like a useless umbrella.
Pathetic parasol
Mirage that we deserve.
Ok guys, here me out.
The cage would actually protect against drone drops and the skirt armor could possibly work against rpgs.
This is one of the more functional cope cages coming out of Russia.
The guy who spot welded this shit together had a rough idea of what he wanted to achieve.
>The cage would actually protect against drone drops
I doubt it, the velocity of shrapnels won't be impeded by the cage.
I can see it stopping a homemade molotovs.
I mean shaped charge vogs specifically.
The cage should make them detonate at a distance, giving the tank a chance to not get penetrated.
Same with suicide drones, nets actually work decently well against them.
It even covers the engine, which is a first as far as I know.
It's not the same cargo cult shit as the normal cope cages or the absolute retardation in the OP.
>The cage would actually protect against drone drops
This was the entire purpose of "cope" cages from the beginning, after experiences made in Syria by the SAA fighting ISIS and US-backed rebels.
It was never meant to defend against top attack missiles such as the Javelin or any other form of HEAT warheads.
What is known is that increasing the distance at which the warhead is set off by adding such armou in many cases increases the effectivity of HEAT.
This is because in most cases, due to design limitations of the warhead itself, HEAT charges are not set off at the ideal distance to achieve maximum penetration, the fuze is too close to the liner / the HEAT charge itself.
If you wanted to make grenades or missiles with warheads that explode at the ideal distance, it would make them unpractically large, or long to be more accurate.
The RPG-7 warhead itself is a prime example of such a compromise between set-off length (the distance between the fuze and the warhead, and penetration value.
>This was the entire purpose of "cope" cages from the beginning, after experiences made in Syria by the SAA fighting ISIS and US-backed rebels.
Nice historical revisionism. The concept came about after Karabakh. The ruskies bona fide thought that the cages could protect against top attack munitions.
M'lady
T54 OBR. 2023
TEE FIFTY FUCKING FOUR OBRAZETS 2023
I just can't fucking comprehend it. What the fuck is this war. Nothing makes sense, all preconceived notions go out the window.
Artillery support, guys.
Can NAFO fags posting about the "cope cage" even explain why it is stupid or whats stupid about it?
Its because javelins can still punch through them. Nevermind that cage armor has been used by americans themselves in the past. Also has to do with how rag tag they look, not at all professional.
are you fucking retarded? they're no use against top-attack ATGMs, they get punched right through, that's why Puccians get made fun of for them.
I got the impression they were rigged up as a makeshift anti-drone-grenade defense, given all the drone footage. Don't know if that's true though but it sort of explains why they do it.
Simple - if it was from carbon fibre/teflon/vibranium you could hope, but cooe cages are routinelly made from class 11 steel which won't stop a hammer, let alone anything with velocity.
It honestly looks like a grift by someone who pushed bullshit to make quick buck.
I hope to see images of birds building nests on top of abandoned tanks with cope cages.
Oh for fucks sake.
Jesus kek