Hey PrepHoleomrades, I just bought pic related for myself, how effective is it at warding off people? Are they less likely to mess with you if they see it? Ran into a lot of shady jerks last week and was considering buying one for a while until I need a real gun.
>until I need a real gun.
You have this backward, anon. You don't know when you will need a gun, and you will severely regret (or have no chance to do so on account of being dead) not having one if such an event does happen where you'd have needed it.
Get one now, learn its use, and carry it (and if you can't carry outside, carry it while in your house, or keep it very close by) and then you will have no such regrets.
OC spray/pepper gel is a great tool, and something I carry too. Its just that nobody knows when they'll need a gun; the situation thrusts itself upon them too fast.
Regardless, they're very effective. Unless they're absolutely dead set on killing you or are raging out on drugs they're likely to quickly fuck off. It hurts a lot, the eyes swell and spew tears, the nose runs, coughs and sputters start, and so even if they are still combative they're severely restricted in what they can do, if they can even see where you are. Standard procedure is spray, then get the fuck out of Dodge while they deal with the consequences of fucking around and finding out.
Here's a little something you can try to get a bit of a feeling of what you're dealing with:
Find a wall and take two steps away of it. Now spray at it. Now realize how much it sucks to stay this close to the wall because you're exposed to a fraction of the pepper spray.
Now imagine how much worse it must be to get that shit in your eyes.
Pepper spray is incredibly effective.
I gave my bottle a test spray - and it just being in the AIR made me go fucccccckkkk.
Sabre is some serious shit.
Carry both. You are a hundred times more likely to need pepper spray than you are a gun, but if you need a gun you are going to need it a lot more. Problems arise both when you use a gun for something you should not have, and when you use pepper spray for something you really needed a gun for.
Guns have their major drawbacks. One it is lethal force or nothing, second once drawn they may take control of the weapon and use it on you. As such, it escalates what might be minor skirmishes into life-death scenarios. And net safety decreases the more have weapons as everyone engages in an arm’s race against each other.
Do you want to be arrested for shootings 6’2 excon nog and have the long costly trial ruin your life? It doesn’t matter what happens, only how it is perceived. You are alive and an unarmed jogger is lying dead.
Pepper spray is way more flexible, and is more about giving you time to escape.
Guns can be nonlethal, you could just shoot his balls off.
Not to mention the permanent hearing loss associated with discharging your firearm, doubly so if indoors.
Based. I need to get some spray. The most likely "encounter" I'd face in my area is a road rager or random street beggar dinging my car. And in both those situations a quick spray to the eyes with some Hispanicy juice would end the altercation in .3 seconds. But yes, also carry a gun. Sometimes it doesnt work fast enough or they have a friend that escalates the threat after seeing their buddy get downed.
I carry the pom sprays. They're like 13 dollars and come in pretty colors 🙂
I'm thinking you're right but a telescopic baton is an even better nonlethal 2nd than pepper spray, you can bash anything with it and it doesn't run out
I disagree, it puts you within contact distance to use. If you are in range to baton someone, they are within range to grapple you. If you pepper spray someone from a few feet away, if they continue to be a threat, then you may have enough time to draw your gun before they close in. If you are already in a hand-to-hand fight it is much more difficult to draw a firearm.
I can fuck anyone unarmed up with a big ass baton (anyone on the street not some hypothetical kungfu master) pretty confident on that one
ok bud good luck defending that in court if it was deemed a non-life-threatening encounter, and if it was then you should have just used a gun
Anyone who tells you that a baton or knife are better in a self defense situation has never been in one, you need to be extremely close to use either and you are going to have to hope you hit harder than they do, pepper spray can be used from a distance or up close and requires no actual force or athleticism to use and can disorient someone enough you can draw your gun if they're still a threat, feel free to stroke your own ego all you want and pretend like you could win any fight, but be smarter in real life and don't stake your life on whether you can fight some roided up nog in a fight or not
A baton is generally regarded as being lethal force also what
said
The spray will only make me rape you harder.
Not as much as it should. Lots of dudes won't back down at pepper spray, until you juice em up with it and it stops like 90% of them cold, the rest run circles for a while and once in a blue moon someone will fight through it.
So no, it's not a great deterrent but it works fantastic and is 1m times better than catching a murder/manslaughter charge
I prefer pic rel, CS + OC, much more effective than plain OC. Have used it to dispel three hobos, it worked perfectly every time.
Make sure to replace them every 6 months even if you don't use them
That's exactly what I carry, along with a gun. IF someone still wants to party after a face full of that shit you've got an ironclad argument that 1. Your life was actually in danger and 2. You really didn't want to shoot someone but they gave you no choice.
Dumb as shit, either buy X-Marker or just offer your asshole to the enemy.
https://www-urbansurvival-nl.translate.goog/en/x-marker.html?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Why would OP care about some eurocuck bullshit?
Because it's obviously superior.
Spray is a quick and easy wake up call to remind people not to fuck with you. Just be warned that if you spray some methoid or fentanyl american they might absorb the power of your pepper and double their rage at you
Practice on homeless fentanyl addicts. You'll figure it out.
Ask your friend to wrestle you after you do the one chip challenge
Depending on where you live it's possible a better option than a gun (inb4 wanna be serial killers denying it) if you fire off a gun in the middle of a crowded area no matter how threatened you feel you're as likely to get jailed as whoever was assaulting you on the other hand pepper spray is fine it's considered non lethal self defense, unless the other person verifiably has a gun and they're going for it pepper spray should always be your first line of defense
Woah man, YOURE WAY TOO CLOSE
Picrel *blocks your path*
Sabre is good stuff. I have the small one you posted for a jacket pocket but the most effective ones are the fogger pattern vs stream, they have them in 3oz and up I think. Handy for le autocar. I’ve used Sabre to great effect. Sprayed a young miscreant in Sears and the air system picked up the OC and the store had to be evacuated temporarily.
Even funnier when picrel is attached.
>Sabre certifies their pepperspray to not combust when you hit 'em with the ol' Hispanicy zapper doubleplay.
lmao
Perfect combination with a blunt weapon. I carry a sabrered AND a telescopic baton in my car.
>But I don't know if it's effective
I tried it with a barking shitbull. It works
Also years ago some drunk retard misfired one in a room during a party. It was effective and it wasn't even on my face.
BUT
I have seen a guy full on cocaine resist a direct hit to the face and rekt a cop. So be careful.
try it out on a belligerant homeless person, see how fast it knocks them out
Pepper spray (specifically pepper gel) is by far the most effaceable less-lethal self-defense tool. Obviously everyone is always going to recommend you carry a gun but if a gun is unavailable or impractical or you just want some sort of intermediate force option then pepper spray is the way to go. It does not matter you're a drugged up giggabro on PCPcrackmeth pepper spray to the eyes WILL make an attacker useless for at least a good 20 minutes which gives you more than enough to to get away/call the cops.
>Pepperspray makes you useless for 20 minutes
Yeah, nah, you're just a pussy.
>not having trained to fight through the effects>
Ngmi. Worked with a guy who had a PCP jacked guy grab the OC spray and use it on the officer. Officer knew from training what effects were like, emptied his P228 in the bad guy doing natural point shooting one handed. Blew the dude’s nuts off and got a standing ovation from grand jury (in deep blue state).
I carry both in my car and a G19, but options are good.
Okay let me spray you in the eyes and see how effective you are.
>Yeah, nah, you're just a pussy
If I spray pepper gel in your eyes and we fight you are losing the fight. I do not care what ultra super level opr8r you are. I will bet you any amount of money. You cannot train away your biology.
Dump that pansy-assed gay spray. Get some testosterone inducing BEAR SPRAY. BE A MAN AMONG MEN! FWIW, bear spray works on groups of roving pavement apes.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ixy5125LSJ4
A very effective deterrent against smoke-alarm Americans.
isnt bear spray actually weaker than pepper spray?
Nuh uh its more concentrated most of the time. Junkies and crims have figured that out and that its in every outdoor'ish store here and have used them quite alot. Their trying to make harder to buy now. Also I bought one for work recently and the whiniest slimiest onions boy 50+ year old retail employee complained about even selling them lol. Said some bullshit about us living in a provincial park and not being necessary. Was very funny cause he was talking into the register I could barely hear him. Laughed and said it was for work, thanks and have a good day.
You know bear spray is weaker right? Bears just have better noses.
If you draw it you better shoot it. It's not like a gun, they're gonna laugh or if they've been to jail/prison they'll know what to do to counter it (close/cover eyes with hand). Don't give them the opportunity, draw quick and immediately spray. You're not killing someone, don't worry about using it. It works if you hit their eyes and don't freak out about the backblast. Move away from the area immediately and you won't get any. If you got a tiny little keychain one that's not really enough even for one attacker.
you should carry:
>knife you can deploy one handed with a 3 1/2" - 4" blade
>quality pepper spray
>bright pocket flashlight (mine is 1200 lumens)
>pistol
It's a smart idea to have different levels of defense you can deploy. flashlight should be level 1, then pepper spray, then pistol, and then knife if things are going wrong.
I don't know about this specific brand but I got this one spray can of CS Gas from Germany, the secret ingredient was crime, and it fucking slaps. On the first day I got it, I sprayed a little bit of it on a wall in my backyard and gave it a quick whiff, less than a second and it had coughing for hours. It's probably not very effective against drugged up hobos tho.
We got gassed with CS in a gas house, and they said you’d feel like you can’t breathe. Within seconds I felt like my throat closed up and it was 100x more incapacitating than OC.
Not only is OC more potent, not all OC is equal. Have to look at the % and SHU ratings.
>We got gassed with CS in a gas house, and they said you’d feel like you can’t breathe. Within seconds I felt like my throat closed up and it was 100x more incapacitating than OC.
Nice. Good to know. I think I'll buy another can just to be prudent.
I know cops in the US can’t carry it because it actually did cause some people with respiratory problems to die. When you read about someone dying from OC it’s just because they were on drugs and blew the heart out resisting.
We had to get sprayed in the face, so a couple weapons retention drills, a takedown and handcuff the attacker. It’s not any superhero level skill if you aren’t a pussy. Most people just don’t have a fighting mindset, and some people are more sensitive to it than others. One guy I knew sprayed a prisoner in the ER and just stuck the can in his mouth so the rest of the ER wouldn’t be effected. I’ll take the eyes over that any day.
>I know cops in the US can’t carry it because it actually did cause some people with respiratory problems to die.
Yeah, people with asthma or heart conditions will absolutely fucking die if they get sprayed with CS gas.
morons all have asthma, seems like
Smacking someone bigger than me and drugged up/black but unarmed with a baton when I had a gun too is so indefensible I might as well shoot him?
>Most people just don’t have a fighting mindset,
Touché. You got me, I am hoping to get on with mall security.
u tried
And that’s a good thing.
I was wearing a low pro carrier and ceramic plates along with two layered jacket, so back then I was at my fighting weight.
>what airshow was this?>
It was an all inclusive travel package, including Hesco villa and unlimited soft drinks.
>”I’m not a fattie, I swear!”
>posts pic of sodas
Muppa lo pooka Solo, oh ho ho ho hooo
Ngl, I like soda.
Alright I’m not gonna lie I’ve been unfairly roasting you and you seem like a pretty chill-ass dude
Please enjoy a tasty carbonated beverage this evening king
Thank you Sir, and I can take a /k roasting with the best of them, all in good fun. I’m enjoying a Diet Bepsi at the moment.
While I am a time traveler, I have never been to an airshow. Im gonna go out on a limb and guess crew chiefs don’t wear ceramic plates for demo flights??
Well that’s a distinct possibility, but the point being OC neither gives you guaranteed whoop ass skills nor does it count you out of the game. Fighting sucks ass on a good day, fucking with your respiratory system and vision is not optimal.
>stress induced auditory exclusion Reverse Uno card>
Wrong pic, too lazy to time travel and undo.
>but the point being OC neither gives you guaranteed whoop ass skills nor does it count you out of the game.
Yes it does. I know you're a big strong army man but capsaicin in your eyes makes you useless. Same way you can't train for a bullet in your head. Cope and seethe,
> capsaicin in your eyes makes you useless.>
Tell me you have no real world experience/training or balls without telling me. If dudes can actively fight back after taking multiple lethal gunshots, do ya think someone who is amped up is gonna drop like a robot deactivated?
I’m 5-06, no .mil, actively avoid fisticuffs, and am not the strongest, fastest, toughest, most lethal bad ass but I also never give up and that’s what you can’t factor in.
Ahahahaha fat fuck
Also lmao what airshow was this
Either you're a time traveler or you went to an airshow.
Sabre makes a 3-in-1 OC/CS/UV dye spray for maximum fuck you potential. I got some myself.
https://www.sabrered.com/pepper-spray/3-1-compact-pepper-spray-clip
Actual can of whoop ass.
I am town rapist in poland
I am immune to pepper spray
sabre red is good. i had to use mine on a meth zombie who attacked my coworker when we were going into our building in the morning. mine was the gel type and i got a couple bursts directly in his eyes. worked instantly and put the methoid out of the fight. made me a believer
someone post the video of someone shooting a guy because he pepper sprayed him
It's definitely very effective, and useful for more than humans. I'd 100% carry some if there's shitbulls in the neighborhood.
reminder that pepper spray is illegal in the UK
Spray yourself and find out.
Every human needs a real gun BTW, hopefully you already booked some bewb shooting lessons.
>less likely to mess with you if they see it
Lmao you twink motherfucker. You're gonna get your shit kicked in.
Well you know it’s sound advice when even most of PrepHole agrees. Get the pepperspray, but get the gun first. I’ll leave the specific brand up to the autists know more, but make sure it’s pepper spray and not gel. Anybody who’s spent time in jail will know to wipe gel off and fling it back at you.
If you pull it out, just use it.
If you threaten with it, you'll have too much time to think if you should or shouldn't use it and you'll get knocked out
>until I need a real gun.
Muggers and murderers being notorious for giving their victims advance notice, great thinking OP.