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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Biden should spend coupla billions to pay 10-15k PMC and end this fricking shitshow already. Put Blackwater veterans on Ukraine's payroll and arm them , simple as. This is a frozen conflict and will just frick up the economy more if let alone

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >This is a frozen conflict and will just frick up the economy more if let alone
      Not really. All that Russian oil not being sold just means more American oil gets sold instead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >India buys cheap Russian oil
        >Makes diesel
        >Sells diesel worldwide including to USA at market rates
        >American producers can't compete
        Not sure how this is a win for Team Burger

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia sells much less oil to niech less clients for a much smaller price
          >This is a win for them
          Ok

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is.

          >Russia sells oil to India at firesale prices

          >India refines said oil and put the refined products back in the markets

          >Rest of the world buys said oil.

          Because the russian oil is still in the markets the oil price is stabilized.

          There's no shortage of oil for the consumers.

          India gets most of the profit for oil sales.

          Russia gets nothing because is selling almost at cost.

          This was the objective of the oil cap, cut oil revenues and it's working.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/3A4K5XI.jpg

        >India buys cheap Russian oil
        >Makes diesel
        >Sells diesel worldwide including to USA at market rates
        >American producers can't compete
        Not sure how this is a win for Team Burger

        America outproduces Russia on oil but actually has an economy to use it, they aren't desperate to sell. It's pretty much just Russia's petrol station economy getting butt fricked while poos and chinks benefit from being fair weather friends and only buying at dirt prices. They of course are still getting railed by wheat prices similarly to Africa, but frick them (and Africa).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How exactly is this bad for the economy anon? Seems like a big money maker for the US. Gas being sold, oil being sold, MIC is producing nicely.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The level you waste of space shills go to wanting to prolong this bullshit truly is astounding

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Shills implies we’re getting paid, shitting on Russia for being violent degenerate filth is a time honored NATO pass time that dates all the way back to the Berlin Airlift. This entire war is a huge investment for the USA because once we can rebuild Ukraine and get their economy up to snuff, they get to pay us back as per the lend lease agreement. The only way the USA loses money in this conflict is if Ukraine loses, which isn’t happening.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon I just had a stroke what the frick are you saying?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        High energy costs are bad for every sector besides energy. Also it hurts the USA's most important allies - Europe.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >muh blackwater
      they already tried that, the pussy americans ran away when they realized what real war is

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      some grunts wont make any difference, Give UK 50 F-16, longe range HIMAR missiles, 100 Abrahams and training, and we would see serious UK gains.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PMCs are not equipped to fight a state military head-on by themselves, even one as incompetent as Russia. PMCs fill the following roles:
      1. Providing security for countries where the state military is poorly trained and equipped (West and Central Africa, etc.) Generally fighting against terrorists and guerilla groups.
      2. Filling in gaps for state militaries (i.e. guarding bases, diplomatic buildings, infrastructure like power plants, etc.)
      3. Eliminating high-value targets and conducing high-risk operations, with intelligence and support provided by the state that is employing them (and any allies, like the US).
      4. Supplementing state military forces. This is the one area where PMCs could help at the current stage of the Ukraine War.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then you’d have 5k dead blackwater and the vets who come home would blame the president.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Blackwater b***hgays wouldn't last a day in Ukraine

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Biden should
      Biden is a spineless zionist puppet and Hunter Biden took bribes from Ukraine for this dirty war, they want another forever war and they are having trouble convincing America that Americans should die in it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      when was the last time PMCs fought a real war against a peer force?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't seem like much but these kinds of offensives is what saved Moscow in 1941. Similar to the Germans, the Ukrainians have been softened up for a major Russian offensive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the Ukrainians have been softened up for a major Russian offensive.
      And the Russians have also been softened up for a Ukrainian offensive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Please man the frick are you even saying, the Russians were invaded back in the days and they had the entirety of the USA and their own industry completely war focused, now they are invading without being able to resupply if not in limited amount and with no allies and no war industry. This is not 'like Moscow in 41'.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >IT'S JUST LIKE LE SOVIETS IN LE GREAT PATRIOT WAR
      This isn't HOI4 dumbfrick. These "gains" are pathetic for the amount of men and materiel that is being expended.
      >BUT UKRAINE ISN'T TAKING GROUND EITHER LOOK AT THE MAP
      Soon vatshit soon

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >These "gains" are pathetic for the amount of men and materiel that is being expended.

        Kek you literally know nothing about the Eastern Front in WW2 if you think these losses-to-land-gained ratio are terrible. To give some perspective, the Soviets didn't even push the Germans out of the USSR until the middle of 1944 by which point they had something like 10 million casualties

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >To give some perspective
          To give perspective, during WWII, USSR had +10k military aircraft

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure what point you're getting at tbh, but in WW2 each plane could carry only a tiny amount of ordinance compared to today.

            The IL-2 Sturmovik, the USSR's most numerous bomber of the war, could only carry from 200 to 400 pounds of bombs.
            The SU-25, Russia and Ukraine's most numerous CAS aircraft, by comparison can drop over 9000lb worth of bombs in just a single flight

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >could only carry from 200 to 400 pounds of bombs
              corsair could carry ten times that

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Who cares? Corsairs would get absolutely chewed up over German-controlled skies. You should have said P-51 or P-47.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                as 60% winrate bf109k4 pilot I am more worried about the Corsair than either of those

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The il2 typically carried about ~500kg with rockets early war, the frick are you smoking?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the vehicles USSR had in WW2 completely dwarfs of Russia has now. at least by 10 to 1. There isnt going to be a major offensive from Russia... there hasnt been one since feb 2022... keep dreaming

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              too bad Ukraine is saturated with AA and russia doesn't have the ability to SEAD properly

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >The IL-2 Sturmovik, the USSR's most numerous bomber of the war, could only carry from 200 to 400 pounds of bombs

              Korea and Vietnam era prop aircraft that carried more ordnance per average combat sortie than any current Russian jet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >UN hygiene aid

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't WW2. The human capital being mulched by these offensives is massively more valuable than a Soviet peasant back in the 40s, much more money is expended per capita on education. The equipment is orders of magnitude more expensive and the US isn't funneling tons of free stuff in to support it.

          In WW2 Russia has the majority of the world's industry supporting it in one way or another. Now it's the opposite. Even if China did decide to start arming Russia, China's arms industry output is a great deal smaller than the combined west especially if it gears up for a prolonged rearmament.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the Russian govt won't even admit that this is a war at all and you expect us to believe it is reasonable to compare bodycounts with the WW2 eastern front

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the Russian govt won't even admit that this is a war at all

            obviously that's very gay but USA does the SAME exact shit. Vietnam and Iraq 2 weren't wars, they were "police actions", or did you already forget about that?

            • 1 year ago
              This thread is sah gay

              >muh Vietnam
              Every time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                except I also mentioned Iraq 2, which happened in this century, moron.

              • 1 year ago
                Still not bumping

                I stopped reading as soon as I saw Vietnam.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >but america
              just say it, russia is performing like shit

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No problem: Russia is performing like shit, but refusing to declare this a war isn't uniquely Russian in the slightest. USA/Brits did the same shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And I only mentioned it to point out one way in which it is ridiculous to pretend this war is analogous with WW2 in terms of scale.
                Losing tens of thousands of soldiers KIA in one year in what was basically a colonial venture is absolutely horrendous
                To pretend that it is somehow sustainable to take these kinds of losses for literal villages in a world where there is no Soviet-tier mass mobilisation and to attempt such would be political suicide is crazy. Russia is throwing away resources for no goddamn reason, the best excuse anyone can come up with is that he wants to wrap this up before western tanks arrive in useful numbers but that is a paper-thin reason to expend literally tens of thousands of troops
                USA was never pretending the Vietnam War was the same as frickin pearl harbour
                And even for the Soviets, pissing away a division to take one of thousands of eastern front villages would raise eyebrows

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >USA was never pretending the Vietnam War was the same as frickin pearl harbour

                USA literally mobilized the population and dropped more bombs on Vietnam than they did Imperial Japan, the frick are you on about

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah okay I get it you're trolling

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're pretending that Vietnam didn't matter to the US government, meanwhile they literally drafted the population for it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy, but I think his wording was just hella bad. I don't think he means what you think he means and who the frick knows what he means.

                People do this terrible thing where they project what they think other people's mental image of different conflicts is, without proper research at all.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I know what he means, he means that the USA never acted like the Vietnam War was existential. But they literally did pretend it was existential, domino theory and all that, hence why they were able to draft the population for as long as they did.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Frick *that* was what he was trying to say?

                I mean you don't even need to know who Robert McNamara is to know the US was motivated by what it saw as long-term existential threat. Albert Speer levels of technocrat-moronic. Everyone's gotta know that if they know about the Vietnam war, right?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Vietnam was not WW2 and this is also not WW2, countries were willing to expend everything for victory in WW2 because it was a total war where the losers couldn't even be sure they would still exist at all if they lost, the same is clearly not true in the cases of the USA in Vietnam and Russia in Ukraine
                Now stop trying to get me to talk about Vietnam as a distraction from the actual topic here

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don't remember people being fined or imprisoned for calling either of those a war.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Goal post status: moved

                US government refused to call Iraq 2 or Vietnam a war. And though they never jailed anyone for calling it a war, they sent people to prison for exposing war crimes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one moving the goalposts you stupid frick.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I protested the second iraq war
              >yet I appear to be free from imprisonment

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Soon vatshit soon
        Two more weeks?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the Ukrainians have been softened up for a major Russian offensive
      in 2 weeks?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >This is literally Stalingrad 7.0 -Z

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is literally collapsing, this is their Verdun and 1917 combined in one

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just like they were softened after Severodonstsk right?

    • 1 year ago
      sage

      >have been soften-ACK

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Here's your-ACK!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whats that red area down there at the bottom?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hyperfortress Pissky, iirc

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that meme is very innacurate, anything that frames this war as anything other than utterly humiliation for Russia might as well be propaganda

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >trying to memoryhole Kyiv, Kharkiv, snek island and Kherson failures

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, collapse of northern front, Kharkiv and Kherson are memoryholed already?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yup. The new propaganda line is “This is just an attritional war the whole time!”

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I still chuckle how that one image that predicted the Russian encirclement growing ever smaller with each month became true. It's literally just the city of Bakhmut now

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All 40km of it.

    Now imagine if US gave Ukes all their m113s.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      m113s are magical, but they are not a magic bullet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What am I actually saying?

        I'm saying imagine if the AFU had 8000 tracked APCs in the logistical mix across their fronts, that could navigate the changing circumstances of the terrain better than most, and they were more or less the same make, and when and if required, were highly adaptable, and Ukrainians were already trained on how to use them. Imagine if the provision of that capability put the US well in front financially, because they wouldn't be holding on to shit they didn't want to use.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Deep battle operations comrade

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    More than I expected tbh. Wonder how long it will last.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just two more centuries and Russia will have at least HALF of Ukraine

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it is the 41st millennium and the battle of Bakhmut twin artillery shell mountains rages on

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I want Biden to pick up the phone and order the Pentagon to kick out Russia. The war would be over instantly, the RuAF are only pretending to fight if they had to face the US they would literally rebel and refuse; the Kremlin knows this and they’d pull out on day one.

    I want to watch the third-worlders on here seethe so hard that they all but die.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Russia will literally nook if nato gets directly involved. I hate vatnigs but this is the reality, otherwise they would have done this already

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Russia hasn't any functioning nukes. Why else would they call off the inspections?
        >Can't let Joe see how pathetic we actually are.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately nato intelligence disagrees with you, otherwise we would have seen the kremlin blown to bits by now

  10. 1 year ago
    sage

    >Here's your winter offensive, bro

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      one would think that Russia would cut their losses and leave when they already lost ALL of their tanks and 67% of their infantry. do you really believe that those numbers aren't complete horseshit?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's not about Russia ability to fight, it's about monke keeping his position

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you're either a moron or a shill

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >thinking russia would cut their losses
            who's the real moron here

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not about Russia ability to fight, it's about monke keeping his position

          "They know about my position. Just saw a post on /k/"

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            uh oh, stinky

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >one would think that Russia would cut their losses and leave when they already lost ALL of their tanks and 67% of their infantry. do you really believe that those numbers aren't complete horseshit?
        Everyone knows the Ukrainian numbers are right. If you don't know how many tanks Russia had in serve per invasion and its 'r4eserves' that its pulling junk from like defective unmodernised t62s and T72s that cool but shut the frick up. The Ukranains won the debate a long time a go by telling the truth and their figures predicting Russian mobilisation, something putin swore would never happen when he did his invasion speech. The Russian conventional military is vanishing before our eyes

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >something putin swore would never happen when he did his invasion speech
          well, you made me rewatch the speech. do you think blatantly lying will benefit Ukraine? apparently you do

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            watch this you will see at about the 53 second mark but you are just lying because you are a russian and it is what you do

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              don't blame me because you don't know in what speech he (supposedly) said it. post his speech where he says it and don't talk out of your ass in the future, moron

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >only 1,000 POWs
      >600,000 casualties

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They are intentionally keeping that number vague, so vatniks won't know how many switched to ROA

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >3395 tanks lost
      >3300 total tanks in the entire Russian military

      something doesn't add up...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Look up Russia's reserves.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        3300 were the tanks that were earmarked for the invasion. Since then Russia has brought T-62's from storage and started building 2022/23 variants of T-90's, T-72's and T-62's. That means there are more than they started with. If we go off paper numbers, Russia has 9,000 more tanks minimum, ignoring stuff they could build.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          look again

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Look again at what? My point remains.They've pulled up reserves and built new ones. That's if we believe it to be true (it isn't) anyway. Officially T-62's are not part of the Russian active forces, therefore activating them does not count for the total of the armed forces. Same as the 300 or so T-55's that are in 'reserve' that Russia has. They could call those up too if they worked.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              3300 were the tanks in service, not just intended for invasion. the Russians certainly didn't produce a significant amount of tanks since the invasion and even to restore tanks in reserve takes a lot of time. if they did lose the bullshit amount of tanks in the Ukrainian source, then most of it it was their active reserves

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Paper numbers are 100% fake as shit, but Russia probably has a few thousand more rusty shitboxes they can refurbish

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Right now Russia is capable of making 20 of their T-90 monkey models per month and refurbing another 60-80 T-62/T-72 hulls (they don't have T-90 hulls in storage to refurb). They're losing around 150-170 tanks per month. They're scaling up production but it will take a couple of years, and by the time they're there they will certainly have run out of T-72 hulls and probably T-62 hulls. Nobody really knows how many serviceable tanks Russia actually had in its Siberian boneyards.

          I don't know how many BMP-3 they're building but I do know the situation after sanctions was bad enough the government inquired about producing BMP-2s instead if it could be done more easily, but it sounded like Kurganmashzavod was tooled up for BMP-3s and it was easier to build sanctioned monkey models of those instead of going back to simpler vehicles. They've had issues scaling up production for a long time though.

          All of this is important though because the key to Russia actually taking the land it claims is having enough armored vehicles, unless they can cause the Ukrainian army to rout you can't make meaningful advances or perform maneuver warfare on foot or with just light vehicles.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            But aren't those huge tank losses mainly from the first months of the war? Do we have an idea on the loss rate of the last months?

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    psyop russian winter offensive so then you can claim it didn't work. ingenious, but it doesn't win you the war.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Russia is making gains, what is the issue here?
    >YOU'RE NOT WINNING FAST ENOUGH!!!!
    LOL.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So the ground never froze or what? I thought both sides were waiting for that so they could launch their new offensives.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yup warm winter, which is funny when all the Russian shills were scream that “General Winter will save us just like 1941 and Europe will freeze!!!” and when it didn’t they started blaming American weather control machines.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainians were saying that the Russians will start a massive offensive, but they didn't. just like there was no new recruitment wave in Russia

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