Here's how they hit that Kh-101

>Sensor specialist HENSOLDT is supplying four of its high-performance radars in record time for Diehl Defence's IRIS-T SLM air defence system, which is designed to strengthen Ukraine's defence capability. As part of an order from Diehl Defence worth a two-digit million euro sum, one of the TRML-4D radars has already been delivered, with three more to follow within a few months.
We didn't know precisely what kind of radar they were given with the IRIS-T SLM battery, but apparently they are getting the top-of-the-line stuff:
>The latest variant of the radar was presented by Hensoldt at the Eurosatory in 2018. It will be delivered to customers in 2020.
>The radar unit includes a completely redesigned AESA antenna with solid-state GaN elements, mounted on a non-retractable continuously rotating base. The system does not include an integrated operator shelter anymore, so a separate module is needed. TRML-4D combines digital beamforming with pulse-Doppler radar to detect difficult-to-locate airborne targets such as hovering helicopters or low-flying cruise missiles. The system has increased performance compared to its predecessors and is able to track 1500 targets at a range of up to 250 km. It supports Mode 5 and Mode S identification. The radar unit includes an onboard power generator and can be carried by any truck that has standard 20 ft ISO container fittings.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russian meme radars that can track at 400km do nothing and get blasted by old HARMs.
    >Modern NATO-aligned technology with almost half the stated performance instantly and completely defeats the best weapons that could be thrown at it.
    Zsisters was it always just a lie? Who is at fault for this inexcusable embarrassment?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NATO-aligned technology
      the machine spirit has chosen a side

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>"Boss, that gun can hit a fly at 100 km."
      >> "Competition?"
      >> "50 km"
      >> "Put 75 km in the sales brochure"

      >> "Comrade leader, the gun can hit a desk at 50 km"
      >> "Put 'Hits fly at 75 km" in the report to the ministry"

      That's how it works.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a cultural thing. The west, largely through economic incentives, has made lying about weapon capabilities not only unprofitable, but also a legal shitshow. In the west, people are incentivized to undersell what they're capable of, so that the listed specs, ability, whathaveyou are at the lowest level of ability given bad conditions or circumstances. Note: This is also why retards wind up in management positions; promoted to the lowest level of incompetence, rather than highest level of competence.
      Anywho, the east has a culture that incentivizes face and making yourself look good above all else. Because we are all biased towards the culture we grew up in, thinking it's 'reality' for all, they assume that the west also lies about capability to scare them. This means they lie about what their shit is capable of, thinking we do the same - which we do, but in the other direction - and not having the same emphasis on accountability, what they ultimately get is worse than their competition.
      That said, I am 9001% confident that Russian equipment would have faired much better in the hands of NATO troops.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about air defence.
    I want to hear about the cobra.
    Counter battery radars are so assfucking expensive that they count as strategic targets.
    The Ukies got one from Germany and I want to hear about how it's utilized.
    In theory you have that thing standing there, the Russians fire their howitzers, it calculates the position of the battery by analyzing the arc of the projectile, sends the coordinates to the pzh. 2000, which then calculates where the barrel needs to point and how much propellant is needed while the system comes to a stop and sets up in 30 seconds to then fuck up the whole battery with one multiple round simultanious impact.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is exactly how it works. And it works.
      And when it is done working everything is moving in 3ß seconds so they literally can't hit the things.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >That is exactly how it works. And it works.
        >3ß seconds

        rheinmetall representative pls go

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rheinmetall representative pls go
          But I'm on my lunch break.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ach Bernd

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh man that brings me back

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Indeed!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            PrepHole has more KC memes than KohlC, SAD

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              kohlchan is dead, numods are all russian trannies and pedophiles. krautchan was just 50% pedophiles and a few russian trannies.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm so poisoned by the internet, my brain sees a dog doing the Islam One God salute before he heads off in his convertible VBIED.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Put some aviators on him and an ice-cream in his hand.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh nein I have been found out.
          pls buy, dearest customer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It sounds suHispaniciously asiatic 😛

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              He's an honorary german

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rheinmetall representative pls go
          No! No. They can stay.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the face of a man who wants to see Leopard 2s in Red Square.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Guilty as charged

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              foolish,there will be no Red Square if he gets his way.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good, I wanna help him do it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, he will put the "red" into Red Square.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is able to track 1500 targets at a range of up to 250 km
      What the fuck, that's a lot of targets.

      >In theory you have that thing standing there, the Russians fire their howitzers, it calculates the position of the battery by analyzing the arc of the projectile, sends the coordinates to the pzh. 2000, which then calculates where the barrel needs to point and how much propellant is needed while the system comes to a stop and sets up in 30 seconds to then fuck up the whole battery with one multiple round simultanious impact.
      Fucking metal

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What the fuck, that's a lot of targets.
        We just had a thread about what if a carrier was attacked by 1000 suicide-drones.

        Obviously, it would move but what if Zelensky does a press conference and some guy watching from 1km away makes a call and says "parliament building, now".

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My boner is raging out of control

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need some big brained PrepHole lad to explain this system to me. Afaik the Ukies got one complete system that is 5 vehicles, 1 radar, 1 command thing and 3 launchers. What I wanna know is, what happens if the support vehicles get blasted? Isnt the system useless then? And how do you protect the system itself versus arty/missiles whatever, sound really vulnerable to me, sorry I am a tourist.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You multilayer your radars and missiles, integrate the system so you can shoot the missiles you want at the targets that need shooting at.
      The way to counter these systems is with precision cruise missiles, or SEAD aircraft. Russia has neither.
      Artillery is not a factor here, these systems are way behind the front.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thx fren

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russia (ironically) would have to spam a shit ton of cruise missiles, probably from a Tu-160 for max payload, just to reach this fucker. That or infantry, which is unlikely without air support. IRIS for the win baby

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sad they only hit within a 50m radius. It's like playing roulette

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If it even reaches it's target that is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And how do you protect the system itself versus arty/missiles whatever, sound really vulnerable to me
      It is one thing to know an opponent has a system, and another thing entirely to try and find it. It's a handful of trucks somewhere in the area of a US state. Even if you do find it, then you need to move a weapon system of your own into a position to attack it before it moves away again.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but apparently they are getting the top-of-the-line stuff:

    Off the shelf radars are never top of the line.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Western shit wunderwaffe claiming something that was done by something old and soviet only to be forgotten in 2 weeks episode 9818994

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if the old soviet thing works, why isn't russia using their huge supply of old soviet things to win?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They will only lose if they get pushed back to pre war borders
        This isn't the case so far

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why so defensive? Who said anything about losing? I mean it's clear that Russia is moving back, has logistical, manpower and morale problems and is apparently using 60+ year old materiel, but I think that would not indicate that they are losing.

          I was just wondering why those western wunderwaffen seem to work all the time?
          Also, the old soviet air defense systems seem to work just fine, too. The airspace over Ukraine is extremely deadly, and has been for weeks, long before any western systems were in widespread use.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him. The western shit works because we usually use our VERY GOOD AAM missiles as a base, adapt them to land based unit with all modern electronics, and develop them slowly. The soviet shit is working is because they were Fairly decent at it, and it's fighting the gen of jets it was designed for

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >60,000+ dead for a few oblasts you already controlled.
          This is WORSE than Gallipoli, one of the greatest military failures in history.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Russian war goals are beyond the capacities of mortal minds to understand.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Better keep jogging with those goalposts dmitri

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            leg status?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Maggoty. Mobility -25, but food +2.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hitting 4 of 10 S-300s in sirface mode is the same as downing 6 of 6 KH-101s.
        Retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They said they downed all the stuff but ukrainian energy infrastructure is wrecked
          What hit em?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shasneeds, lightly protected stationary civilian targets are all they can manage with them. But it doesn't matter anyways because the AFU have generators. All bombing civilian power does is ensure AFU has good recruitment for at least 20 years.
            How's the evacuation of Kherson going?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Shaheeds cost 20k dollars
              They hit like a truck destroying fully fledged 5 story buildings sections
              Even if they can only hit stationary infrastructure they're still pretty good
              Can't see it's bigger cousin wrecking some more shit in ukropistan

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being cheap doesn't matter when NATO can and will spend enough to defeat you. They will trade the money for their geopolitical goals every time. In keeping with that, Ukraine is downing like 90% of them using NATO weapons they got for free, and the Russians are still sloughing away like overcooked barbecue because the AFU isn't on the civie power grid.
                It'd be neat if it were a highschool science project, but strategically it's meaningless.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that logic assumes infinite resources - which is kind of childish to suggest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They might aswell be infinite for chinkoids and ruskies. Arsenal of democracy, bitch
                >verification not required

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The entire global production system vs the hollowed out remains of the USSR and one of the most sanctioned nations on the planet. China is sitting in the bleachers with popcorn.
                In this context, for the purposes of the war in Ukraine, it's a 100% safe assumption.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You realize these things fly at 185kph right? A stinger missile is overkill, a PKM in 7.62x54r or NSV in 12.7x108mm will knock these out for even cheaper

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thankfully they have Ma Deuce now, so they can use the sights instead of just walking it around in the general direction of the target.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That picture makes me laugh but yes. Things like IRIS need to be saved for the heavy stuff, missiles and planes, bombers if they get close enough

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hard agree. The Hispaniciest thing they should be throwing at the drone problem is any of those Stormers they may have hanging around, but mostly AAA and MANPADS. Save the NASAMS, IRIS and the like for aircraft and cruise missiles that may actually hit significant targets.
                Unfortunately the Ukrainian civilians are going to have to have a stiff upper lip about the occasional outage from leaking Shaheds. And to their credit they're taking it in stride the way they've taken everything else. Real stiff upper lip shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but mostly AAA and MANPADS
                What's the unit cost of a stinger?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Same as everything else the US buys; less than the profits of victory. That's also where lasers come in, much lower cost per engagement. NATO doesn't give a fuck about the buy-in cost when they can make it back several times over by pacifying and rebuilding your nation.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Real stiff upper lip shit.
                Precisely how the London blitz was.
                Prioritising terror bombing on London practically lost Germany the war right there. The RAF was exhausted and nearly bombed out when they made that switch.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                According to rumours some type of WW2 anti-aircraft machine gun will be used.
                >t. ukie

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The Hispaniciest thing they should be throwing at the drone problem is any of those Stormers they may have hanging around
                What's a Stormer?
                Surely not a Metal Storm AA weapon?
                I can vaguely see the application actually but I didn't think they had the range really for AA.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stormer HVM, British AA vehicle that carries a Starstreak battery.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely not. Starstreak is £3m a pop and mounted to Stormer it is intended to protect mobile battlefield formations from attack by high end gunships and ground attack aircraft. It's provided with passive horizon detection equipment and auto-tracking for this exact reason. It is not a wide area defence weapon, nor is it a low end weapon for low value targets. There is no situation where Stormer HVM wont be following the armour and IFV's around.

                Non mobile systems with as big a range as possible should be used on the drones. Systems like IRIS and CAMM although the latter is brand new and very advanced so will never be going to Ukraine. There are limited numbers of these systems in the west. Rapier might be a good option, there's lots of systems and missiles about to go into surplus, makes it cheap and numerous.

                Failing that, MANPADS and AAA guarding key locations.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why haven't they hit wnything with it though? They may as well use it for what it's good for, it hasn't done any of that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >helo gets cut the fuck in half
                Why haven't they hit anything with it?

                It's absolutely wild what 2700g of fragmenting projectiles will do at mach 4.
                It's actually only about 1350g of frag and 1350g HE to propel the frag, still wild the damage it does.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't that heavily disputed cause it could have easily been the flares in the tail being ignited by literally any other missile? Yeah, it was.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can dispute anything, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
                I haven't seen any reports disputing it and I've seen multiple reports that it's shot down multiple aircraft in Ukraine.

                It's been in Ukraine since March or so, said to have had lots of use.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Even though theres zero evidence confirming and some confounding my opinion, I believe this because people say so.
                Stormer would be better off hunting Shasneeds.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's been seen a fair bit with kills of an SU-34 and Mi-28 pretty much guaranteed. Ukraine says it shot down 12 aircraft with it in the first few weeks. Since then we've had a large number of helicopter and jet losses with most of them not having any footage being downed. A full accounting will have to wait for some years after the war, perhaps a decade or more.

                Wasn't that heavily disputed cause it could have easily been the flares in the tail being ignited by literally any other missile? Yeah, it was.

                >Wasn't that heavily disputed
                Only by people like yourself who get upset about startsreak.

                >it could have easily been the flares in the tail being ignited
                There was no secondary blast as bright as the sun, flares also burn not blast.

                >by literally any other missile?
                no other missile in theatre is that fast, leaves no trail, explodes after penetration

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You cannot judge this from the low quality footage avalible. There is no proof starstreak works.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thankfully your opinion doesn't matter. I fucking love how upset our weapons make people. 13 kills by mid April confirmed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It works, trust our figurehead who spends all his time begging for more free weapons because he said so.
                Nobody is seething over things that never happened anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one cares, everyone already said sorry to Starstreak. I won, you lost, write about it some more, I feed off it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone apologized to starstreak
                Nobody apologized, it didn't kill anything and everyone who gets one hates it and also fish and chips. It's the Jimmy Saville of MANPADS.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy but why are you so obsessed with starstreak? Aren't you the least bit concerned there isn't a SINGLE video of a Stinger shoot down the entire war? Is that the reason you are upset, iglas, strelas, starstreak, martlet, pioruns getting all the glory?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are many stinger shootdowns, you can tell by their distincrive sound. Also Stinger is good so that's actually believable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Show me startstreak and msrtlet kills!
                >Gets shown proof
                >Cries
                >Asked to provide stinger proof
                >tRuST mE BrO u CaN HeAR It!
                Opinion discarded, you are clearly a retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Claims to post proof
                >Doesn't post proof
                What did it mean by this? Many such cases.

              • 2 months ago
                Loafiewa

                Cite your Stinger kill or Stinger picture in Ukraine sources!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't that heavily disputed cause it could have easily been the flares in the tail being ignited by literally any other missile? Yeah, it was.

                You cannot judge this from the low quality footage avalible. There is no proof starstreak works.

                >It works, trust our figurehead who spends all his time begging for more free weapons because he said so.
                Nobody is seething over things that never happened anon

                >Everyone apologized to starstreak
                Nobody apologized, it didn't kill anything and everyone who gets one hates it and also fish and chips. It's the Jimmy Saville of MANPADS.

                O B S E S S E D

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Obsessed is begging for Starstreak shootdowns when there's no proof it works.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Proof stinger shoot downs in Ukraine? A single video will suffice? Are there even any pictures of one being used? No?

                This is the logic you are applying to Starstreak/Martlet but on the other hand trying to defend the Stinger with no proof other than you can hear it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sting sound is in all the MANPADS videos. Number 1 most successful MANPADS in Ukraine, Starstreak BTFO, Piorun can stay if it doesn't get upity.

              • 2 months ago
                Loafiewa

                >Can't find a single video or image to back up his Stinger claims
                >b-but you can hear it
                Thanks for playing, I will accept your concession.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >*pop WOOSH*
                >This sound triggers the britbong.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Still no proof of Stinger use? care to link me two videos one of a Stinger and one of anything else to compare sounds?
                Sad.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not as sad as pretending Starstreak works kek.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have statements from Ukrainians saying how good it is, videos and images of it in use. It's nice to see you cry though, Warrior or NLAW hate thread incoming...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Agree.

                https://i.imgur.com/C1hWXJG.jpg

                Absolutely not. Starstreak is £3m a pop and mounted to Stormer it is intended to protect mobile battlefield formations from attack by high end gunships and ground attack aircraft. It's provided with passive horizon detection equipment and auto-tracking for this exact reason. It is not a wide area defence weapon, nor is it a low end weapon for low value targets. There is no situation where Stormer HVM wont be following the armour and IFV's around.

                Non mobile systems with as big a range as possible should be used on the drones. Systems like IRIS and CAMM although the latter is brand new and very advanced so will never be going to Ukraine. There are limited numbers of these systems in the west. Rapier might be a good option, there's lots of systems and missiles about to go into surplus, makes it cheap and numerous.

                Failing that, MANPADS and AAA guarding key locations.

                https://i.imgur.com/EB4LH4w.png

                Thankfully your opinion doesn't matter. I fucking love how upset our weapons make people. 13 kills by mid April confirmed.

                Don't load them with Starstreaks, load them with Martlets at half the cost.
                If you check the videos of Stormers in Ukraine they are part loaded with Starstreak and Martlets and there are multiple videos of Martlets taking down drones already. There's videos of Stormers in action on one of the Twatter pages.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they should get this

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Those are too short range and have a too short ceiling. Pic related is far better

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Something like pic related would probably do the trick.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ex-USSR states have the ZU-23-2, which is a less-fancy version of the same. And the Ukkies have even managed to hit jets and modern helicopters with it.
                They just need to give some more to the northern territorial guard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ex-USSR states have the ZU-23-2
                Then poland should step up.

                https://i.imgur.com/Wo9GWnH.jpg

                >Imagine what the Boxer platform will be used for in like 10 years from now.
                picrel but tracked, for FOB-capable burger delivery.

                Does somebody have the CAD drawing of the Boxer food truck?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They make modern versions with quad IGLAs and an optics box on them. It's great.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty much, proxy fused autocanon seems like the best available point defense against suicide drones until directed energy becomes more developed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess the russkies hit the energy infrastructure in places where there were no SAMs?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So everywhere?

              Why so defensive? Who said anything about losing? I mean it's clear that Russia is moving back, has logistical, manpower and morale problems and is apparently using 60+ year old materiel, but I think that would not indicate that they are losing.

              I was just wondering why those western wunderwaffen seem to work all the time?
              Also, the old soviet air defense systems seem to work just fine, too. The airspace over Ukraine is extremely deadly, and has been for weeks, long before any western systems were in widespread use.

              >I was just wondering why those western wunderwaffen seem to work all the time?
              They don't, you're just told that they work good, the reality is different

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're just told that they work good, the reality is different
                ah so they'Re like the russian/soviet weapons except there we'Re not just told they don't work we can se on yt and twitter that they don't work

                it's a neat trick how the western military industrial complex keeps all those failures hidden

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're just told that they work good, the reality is different
                Right. So Oleg, if all this western gear is worthless crap, why are you guys abandoning whole brigades worth of the GOOD RUSSIAN STUFF to be captured by the Ukrainians? Just wondering....

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Soviet technology is fucking garbage compared to modern West/NATO technology, how many times do you need to get blown out the water before you at least give it some measure of respect.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well ay least once, still didn't happen

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can be carried by any truck that has standard 20 ft ISO container fittings
    I FUCKING LOVE LOGISTICS AND STANDARDISATION AND SHIT
    GOD THINKING ABOUT INTEROPERABILITY GETS ME SO FUCKING HARD

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Least enthusiastic NATO enjoyer:

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      found the actual german

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      May I offer you the Boxer Lego platform
      with its the Simple Plug and Play modularity you can turn your Boxer into anything you want in 5 hours or less
      Want to build a bridge? Boxer
      Want to have a top-of-the-line SPG that can fire on the move? Boxer
      Want to recover that SPG? Boxer
      Hans drank too much and needs medevac? Boxer
      Want to command your Boxer army from a Boxer? Boxer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And the best thing? Within an Open Innovation Framework™ anyone can build a Boxer-compatible module to sell to Boxer-operating countries, producing the wildest shit.
        Imagine what the Boxer platform will be used for in like 10 years from now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Imagine what the Boxer platform will be used for in like 10 years from now.
          picrel but tracked, for FOB-capable burger delivery.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/HilwwFe.jpg

        And the best thing? Within an Open Innovation Framework™ anyone can build a Boxer-compatible module to sell to Boxer-operating countries, producing the wildest shit.
        Imagine what the Boxer platform will be used for in like 10 years from now.

        I feel marketed to.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          buy it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Believe me my sausage and beer enjoying friend, I would have one if I could.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >ywn open carry IRIS-T or use PzH 2000 for recreational purposes
              Americans don't know how good they have it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                God I can't wait to move down to the Carolinas, at the intersection of guns, barbecue, and seafood.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              We will put you on our "Broke Buyer" list and observe your financial situation Closely
              We will contact you again once we think you have the Monteray means required to purchase one of our Boxer Systems

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hans you misspelled monetary

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >random words capitalised
                rheinmetall goddamnit im not buying your fucking boxer

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You gotta understand them germans, they capitalize every noun and every verb they turn into a noun by just putting some article in front.
                A habbit not easy to drop...

                Kek they can reorder the words in their sentences any way they like without the sentence losing it's meaning. Crazy shit. Imagine a 60 word long sentence, best with another sentence put in the middle by using some commas (shown here for clarity), and then the verb giving the whole sentence a meaning appearing as the last word.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they can reorder the words in their sentences any way they like without the sentence losing it's meaning
                Huh same thing with russian. The core of Berlin-Moscow axis is finally makes sense..

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                as a Kraut I never really thought about how easy it is to Identify a german on the internet and now I am self-conscious
                Thanks bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They should make it 4+4 so they would look like crosses

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's the purpose of today's meeting.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This plug and play shit is so fucking gay, it murdered the new abrams

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forgive me for being retarded but what is the advantage wheels provide over tracks? Higher top speed overall? More useful on paved surfaces versus tracks?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't like wheels? No problem, just buy new Boxer version, now with 100% more tracks.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Higher speed, significantly less maintenance, less road damage, lower costs, longer range,...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Higher speed, significantly less maintenance, less road damage, lower costs, longer range,...

          Lot easier to change a tire than a track.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you make a Taco Truck with it?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    US and Germany should deploy active servicemen to West Ukraine in air defense. Side by side UA air controllers. Putin go suck a dick, real life experience and data is worth so much more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >US and Germany should deploy active servicemen to West Ukraine in air defense. Side by side UA air controllers. Putin go suck a dick, real life experience and data is worth so much more.
      I tend to agree, even covertly maybe.
      They're not really in any danger any more. Hardly anyone is dying that isn't on the front lines and air defence teams can suck it up for suicide drones I would think, great practice for real war anyway.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explain this to me (all my antiradar rockets knowledge is coming from Wargame: Red Dragon) So if russians let's say launch anti-radar missile and it senses this radar (and can find position when radar was last seen, if radar was switched off) what can radar do besides shooting counter rockets?
    Can it sense antiradar missile and then just move like 100 meters from it's position with radar turned off and be safe? Because feels like it's such pricy and fragile technology

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In theory your own airforce would enforce the area of denial and prevent that kind of attack from occurring unimpeded. In practice, all those missiles had components stripped and sold on the black market, so there aren't any left to use.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In early war russians definitely used antiradar missiles, now who knows how many they have, but it's a safe bet that they still have some left and can produce more, so there's still danger

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They'd need to get the initiative back from the UAF first. As it stands they're struggling to keep their strategic bombers from getting blown up on the ground, going from that to successful SEAD operations takes more than just having the missiles.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can any of their anti radar missiles hit that specific radar though? Most of the Cold War era shit used seekers tuned to be effective against a specific source, Like the shrike

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a good point and who knows?
            It might just require a software update, it might require some tuning, or maybe it's close enough to existing AA radar that it will work it out.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            AESA radars are already quite difficult to detect, it would be pretty hard to hit it even if they had an airforce flying sorties closer to Kyiv.
            Also the IRIS-T SLM can use passive radars, and I quote:
            >Passive radars can detect enemy aircraft by analysing reflections from external radio and television signals, making them effective in urban areas where active radars struggle.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              passive radars are not for fire control, but for early detection. They are equivalent to the low frequency radars that can see stealth aircraft, but don't have the required resolution and can be easily dealt with by ECM

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So if russians let's say launch anti-radar missile
      Anon I...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what can radar do besides shooting counter rockets?
      That's pretty much all it can do but it's basically enough.
      It *might* be able to identify the incoming HARM and it could be shut-off and moved but more likely, you just try and shoot down the missile because that's what you're supposed to be good at anyway.

      >Can it sense antiradar missile
      Not in a radar-detector-detector way but it can detect a missile and it might be able to match it to a database based on size, signature, speed etc.

      Also they're running low or are dry on HARMs now, like everything else.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This operation has turned into the greatest weapons expo we'll see in our lifetimes PrepHoleommandos

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm sorry TRML-4D

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > apparently they are getting the top-of-the-line stuff
    This is not how gibs usually work.
    We get the top-of-the-line stuff only after we prove that we can master the simpler ones.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like you never used AA before and Hensoldt really wants to test it's shit and generate sales.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another 4 radars
    Without those integrated in the gepards we're at like 15 from Germany + the cobra system.
    What's so cool about radars?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BEST THREAD

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since the beginning I was hoping we could get some prototypes testing in Ukraine.

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