here is some mall ninja shit.

here is some mall ninja shit. If you are planning on buying a "do it all shotgun" like you want something for HD but also to hunt or clays, you are better off getting a 20 inch turkey barrel over a 18.5 incher for HD. the 20 inch turkey barrel will have vent ribs on it and you can use that to mount a red dot and now you have a QD barrel mounted red dot instead of having to use a bead or receiver mounted red dot. Especially considering you would be using the shotgun inside at night a red dot is a billion times better innahouse/mixed lighting/dark conditions than a bead is, even with a WML.
If you are getting a shotgun exclusively for HD, which is a why are you doing that in current year, then do whatever, you can receiver mount and some shotguns now are coming with optics cuts anyway.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Red dots suck on shotguns and limit field of view, something especially important on shotguns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. no gunz
      a. you are acting like people don't use red dots for home defense/inna house shooting
      b. just shoot with both eyes open, its way easier with a red dot than with irons and the red dot housing will ghost out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Red dots suck on shotguns and limit field of view
      bait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's current year, why are you buying anything other than an AR-15 for anything??
      Because shotguns work for HD, and they work extremely well. I love the AR as much as anybody, but I don't NEED 30 highly-penetrative rifle rounds to stop a doctor running away with my TV

      Black person are you squinting through your red dot with one eye?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how do you know it won't be 30 future doctors and lawyers?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >highly-penetrative rifle rounds
        I realize this is counterintuitive at first, but basic b***h 556 is less of an overpen risk than 00 or 9mm out of a pistol.

        >Black person are you squinting through your red dot with one eye?
        Whether or not a red dot makes sense on a shotty depends on what you're doing with it. For HD? Yeah, red dot is fine. For shooting things like clays or birds--you know, what a shotgun is really meant for--the red dot sucks. those kinds of targets you need to lead rather than aim directly at so the red dot is not any help.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Some 5.56/.223 is less penetrative than 00 buck
          That's fair, but you can go smaller than 00 without losing much performance. I'd feel a lot better about shooting #4 buckshot than .223

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            #4 does have a higher overall energy load, although spread over more pellets.
            I am not sure if the reduced pellet weight would result in less overpen since surface area to obstacle interaction (friction/transfer) would also be correspondingly less.
            And you now have more individual projectiles to account for.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It does penetrate less, Paul Harrel did a video on it. Where .223 and 00 buck penetrated two interior walls and an exterior wall, #4 was stopped by the exterior wall.

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              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Based on other Harrel test modalities, I'm guessing this test is also trash

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Shoots three walls with 00 buck
                >Three walls penetrated
                >Shoots same three walls with .223
                >Three walls penetrated
                >Shoots same three walls with #4 buck
                >Two walls penetrated
                I don't know how you could doubt the result.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why?
            If you use a rifle(or pistol) one trigger pull will send one projectile down the barrel.
            If you miss and kill the neighbors kid, it's truly your fault.
            When you pull the trigger on a shotgun, you have 8-9 00 buck projectiles, or ~40 #4 buck projectiles, moving radially outward from your point if aim, beyond your control, each pellet with a much higher chance of missing, and each one a possible lawsuit/criminal charge, and it's completely out of your control.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              For better or worse, the <100moa of a conventional shotgun's spread isn't very much when put in perspective of a home defense shot's distance, target size, and expected user error.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot, donut of death to set your pattern. Rip. Ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >limit field of view
      yeah maybe if you squint one eye and focus on the dot instead of aiming a gun like youre supposed to haha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mine has a 20 inch barrel and also isn't ribbed at the same time. It also has a dot mounted directly to the receiver

      Shut up moron and go shooting sometime

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Red dots suck on shotguns
      More than suck, outright idiocy and broadcasting you can't shoot and know nothing about guns. Its the equivalent of putting a 20 power first focal plane scope on a 9mm glock

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a side benefit of this is 18.5 inch barrels are cylinder bore, generally. A turkey barrel will have removable chokes

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if im getting a do all shotgun why am i not just buying a long barrel and a short barrel? 26 and 18 or whatever?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      an 18 inch barrel wont have a vent rib so you won't be able to mount a red dot unless it is to the receiver

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so Mossberg is coming out with an optics ready 500. its a red dot cut on the receiver so it would allow for barrel changes without losing the red dot from one barrel to another. so far though it's just their turkey gun lineup so it might look kinda weird with a matte black 18" barrel on an otherwise all camo Mossberg 500 but they are selling them as a combo with holosun red dots already installed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/iD6olCm.jpeg

        here is some mall ninja shit. If you are planning on buying a "do it all shotgun" like you want something for HD but also to hunt or clays, you are better off getting a 20 inch turkey barrel over a 18.5 incher for HD. the 20 inch turkey barrel will have vent ribs on it and you can use that to mount a red dot and now you have a QD barrel mounted red dot instead of having to use a bead or receiver mounted red dot. Especially considering you would be using the shotgun inside at night a red dot is a billion times better innahouse/mixed lighting/dark conditions than a bead is, even with a WML.
        If you are getting a shotgun exclusively for HD, which is a why are you doing that in current year, then do whatever, you can receiver mount and some shotguns now are coming with optics cuts anyway.

        >buy 20" vebt rib barrel
        >cut to 18"
        Fricking zoomers

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most modern turkey shotguns are ditching vent ribs and drilling and tapping receivers to allow easy mounting of sights or optics.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anything that is a 12ga and not single shot will do it all.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone know what kind of laser/flashlight attachment brand would be good for a 12 gauge? Same thing with a reflex/holo/red-dot?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Streamlight works great, and so do the Sig Romeo budget red dots. The technology for weapon mounted lights and optics has gotten good enough over the last decade or so that basically anything with a decent name brand behind it will work fine even on a 12GA. It goes without saying that the gucci brands will be fine too, and avoid no-name chinesium Amazon shit for any firearm applications

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Alright! Sounds good I'll definitely check them out! Thank you for the recommendation!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >shotgun
    >aiming
    shiggity. A real American can track and shoot via esp. Unironically ngm.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What red dot can handle 12ga recoil and has a proper reticle for buckshot?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They haven’t invented smart reticules yet that track the random dispersion of buckshot yet moron.

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