help an idiot out would you?

can a 458 socom obtain 2200 jules at 100 meters and would an AR-15 be able to support that load?

i wanna build a sick looking cursed gun just to piss my competition (extreme range) shooting brother off by creating a potato launcher able to legally take down moose.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/
    Leave everything default except the ammunition section and use a site like ballisticsbytheinch to fill that in. Don't get the g1 and g7 mixed up and if you can't find it posted somewhere use a different load that does.

    It won't tell you your holds that way but you'll get your energy.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably with a long enough barrel, like 24"

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only just got into reloading Socom so I haven't gotten to play with anything really interesting yet.
    that would be a 325 grain FTX at 1450fps, which is doable as a target at 100m. wiki says you can launch a 325 at 1860fps.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      you think an AR would take that beating?
      i'm basically just after something that can feed in an AR mag and still meet these requirements, also the bullet has to be larger than 6,5

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        an AR should be able to handle the standard pressures. I'm on a business trip, so I don't have my manuals, but I figure if it has at least 1700fps at the muzzle it'll probably make the cutoff at 100m. I would recommend getting a name brand bolt like tromix for durability reasons.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          any other calibers that fit within the 223 mag that can do this?
          450 bushmaster or less?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tromix
            https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/review-tromix-375-socom/358505
            ^^mby this can do it?
            i just need something that fits in an AR mag
            448 would be REALY pricey to convert because id need to change up a bunch of parts
            (like pump "ring")

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              oof was reply to

              you think an AR would take that beating?
              i'm basically just after something that can feed in an AR mag and still meet these requirements, also the bullet has to be larger than 6,5

              how can i find out load when all i know is how to take em in the face, math isn't my thing-
              my brother is always the one who writes down grains and help order bullets to fit standards

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            OP is asking just a bit too much for 350L.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            50 beowulf

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Playing around in Quickload I was able to get the 350gr Hornady RN 4502 to 1850 fps with a 20" barrel. That kind of velocity is doable, but it's getting pretty close to max pressure with a standard AR-15 bolt head. It would be trivial in a CMMG.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can?
    Yeah
    >should?
    Also yeah

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Trip on Ash

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >now, when i say cursed..
    >i rly need this to be hated by all..
    >i want all the oldies to wonder wtf I'm smoking
    >had a MDT tikka t3 but didn't enjoy it.
    always ends up shooting standing because I'm unlucky by walking up on game
    (at spear throwing range)
    - do not want 45-70 lever action, that shit knocks me on my tiny ass.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, that's doable though it's towards the upper end of what I'd try out of a basic AR. There's two problems here: Most .458 Socom bullets have terrible ballistic coefficients so you need a higher muzzle velocity than you might think to maintain 2200 joules at 1000 yards. Second, the conversion to make the .458 Socom cuts a lot of material out of the bolt face of the AR. On an AR-15 sized bolt the edges become very thin and the bolt head can fail. However if you build it on a larger platform that is not a problem. Picrel shows the difference. Bolt on the right is an AR-15 .458 Bolt. Bolt on the left is AR-10 size, in this case from the CMMG.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    500automax

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      And if op NEEDS to use an ar15 lower (vs ar10), .50beowulf.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        op seems to need to do so, it "just" needs to be larger than 6.5 carry 2200 joules at 100m while also fit inside a 223 magazine,
        >op is a shit for brain brick brain and cant figure this one out.
        >op is cry.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          That 335gr .50beo will give him approx 2700j @ 100yds (same as 100m, don't care what anyone says, fight me).

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jewls
    You are a noguns eurogay or a spacebattler

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      had tikka t3, boring to shoot- brought no joy.
      found out i do enjoy pump action, lever action fricking with my hand to much

      That 335gr .50beo will give him approx 2700j @ 100yds (same as 100m, don't care what anyone says, fight me).

      cant have 50..
      doesn't matter what load, any 50 is no-no here.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >any 50 is no-no here.
        that sucks.

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