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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As far as I can tell it's a Karl Zeiss Jena OEM-2 artillery rangefinder. It came with every single piece intact and brand new except for no manual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has more lenses and viewfinders on it than a photography convention, and the switches do all sorts of weird shit without even getting into all the twistable bits.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        careful with those knobs, the internals of those are reasonably delicate. if you get the wrong settings and crank on a knob you could break something.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus frick I tab out for 5 minutes and everyone shows up.

          I have been as delicate as I can, so far I don't think anything has broken.

          I'm more interested in the Corvette and the Camaro under those tarps. Looks like the Camaro has a roots on it, or shit piled up.

          My dad's, neither have a blower, it's just the air filters sticking out of the hood, one's a c3 corvette the other is a '78 (I think) camaro with a big block chevy and nitrous.

          "It's not for sale, I'm gonna fix her up one day"

          Actually he wants to sell both ASAP.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm more interested in the Corvette and the Camaro under those tarps. Looks like the Camaro has a roots on it, or shit piled up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "It's not for sale, I'm gonna fix her up one day"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what ever you do dont try to clean any part of it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/RiwRiL0.jpg

        Jesus frick I tab out for 5 minutes and everyone shows up.

        I have been as delicate as I can, so far I don't think anything has broken.

        [...]
        My dad's, neither have a blower, it's just the air filters sticking out of the hood, one's a c3 corvette the other is a '78 (I think) camaro with a big block chevy and nitrous.

        [...]
        Actually he wants to sell both ASAP.

        https://i.imgur.com/LCDRURz.jpg

        Alright frens, part 2.

        https://i.imgur.com/31w19ez.jpg

        Decided to take a pic of my cold war stuff together.

        >shitty cookie-cutter postwar neighborhood
        >driveway unusable because filled with idle project cars that don't work or never get driven
        >lawn filled with crabgrass and weeds
        >zero attempt to edge the grass
        >wehrboo rifle with expenseive optic
        >my dad this my dad that
        This is some of the most white trash shit I've seen on /k/ in a while. Do you still live at home? Why does your boomer old man have all those shitbox cars?why are you buying surplus shit instead of saving up for your own place? You wear surplus clothing out in public, don't you? Yeah you do, you little weirdo.
        Neat rangefinder though. How much did you pay for it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Price is earlier in the thread, you joyless homosexualron.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black person

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >milsurp bad
          kys Black person

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen that one before but I have used a coincidence rangefinder.
    There should be one knob that moves the two images closer or further apart, turn that until you have a single image at the target range.
    The one I have used just had range marks on the knob that moved the images making life easy, no idea about that thing.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anon while you may know thats a rangefinder, your neighbors probably think its a rocket launcher

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or they think he's a massive pervert.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds like their problem for not educating themselves on artillery spotting equipment from 1970's West Germany.

      Or they think he's a massive pervert.

      Maybe I am.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It‘s not West German, it’s East German.

        https://i.imgur.com/UCW1qcS.jpg

        As far as I can tell it's a Karl Zeiss Jena OEM-2 artillery rangefinder. It came with every single piece intact and brand new except for no manual.

        Karl Zeiss Jena was in the DDR… check out Jena on a map.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          then maybe its a copy of a soviet design.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That makes sense, I don't know why I thought it was West.

          Pretty cool looking, anon. While not a helpfull reply, I hope you find more info on it.

          https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-military-rangefinder-carl-1851604849

          Thanks, I actually found the original import company and asked them about it but I highly doubt I'll get anything since the info about them was on a shipping receipt from 1998. Someone paid $1200 to get this thing into the country back then.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds more apt. Seems like something worth way more than that upon manufacturing. Just that no one wants something like this. Cool purchase.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can tell you're not american. Believe me buddy no one gives a frick about you or whatever you're doing in America on your own property.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Believe me buddy no one gives a frick about you or whatever you're doing in America on your own property.

        anon this is demonstrably false, especially in the suburbs. YOU don't even believe that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He thinks HOA are real.

          Anon, /k/ does not live in Cali suburbia.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you don't need an HOA to have nosy/easily spooked neighbors.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can actually ask for help through the DoD, they have a ticket system now
    just email [email protected] with your questions and it will open a support ticket

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pre-sighting coordinates to airstrike your neighbours
    I like your dedication to home defence, or rather offence

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >home offense
      Block offense.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just going to unload the pics I have of it.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How much?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $500, it was at a yard sale in the same building as a gun/horse tack/pawn shop that I bought a FAL from a few weeks before this thing. Guy also had a russian rangefinder but I'm more interested in NATO stuff.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also the whole thing weighs 225 pounds, had my dad help me get it home in a fricking 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Funny part is we were going to a gun show together and found fricking nothing there before we showed up to this guy's sale.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i hope you didn't pay more than like 200 bucks for it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The german language is such a dead end lmao. Most moronic language. krauts could never build a civilization with this massive language handicap and they're too dumb to change it so they stuck with it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actual brainlet

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Congrats. I feel offended.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You should be. Imagine trying to program software with kraut language with all the inflections, moronic cases, grammatical gender, clause nesting, long compound words instead of unique words due to uninventiveness, a million special cases and moronic rules - impossible. German is a stone age remnant language that never evolved. Trying to form a sentence in german is a nightmare. It's a miracle that they still manage to somehow speak albeit slowly and ineffectively. Compare it with the brevity, efficiency and flexibility of english and you'll see why krauts lost every war and fell behind scientifically and academically against the anglos.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dude this right here is the instruction that tells you the steps how you have to do: "How to prepare EM and orientate it.". Just do the calculations wtf?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I grew up in Germany and this shit sounds like complete gibberish, like peeking into a maths schoolbook. Calibrating and setting after the chart, using this formula and that formula. You probably have more knowledge of what it says tha me, without speaking German

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            probably because we are missing a lot of context/training
            maybe to some DDR artillerymen, this would make perfect sense but for us with no clue it's just gibberish

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's a girl(female) I talk to about stuff like this and she thought it was because I didn't have essentially a mission booklet of some kind that told me which shell to range for, and how the grid is set up, among other things. Dunno what the odds of that are but it makes sense to me.
            Also I may go set this thing up in the yard again now that I have it moved from my dad's place. Dunno if there's any pics that may help an Anon here understand it or if people just want to see anything else.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kraut here, so let's see what this *could* mean:
          EM = probably the acronym for the device, gonna guess "Entfernungsmesser" = range finder.
          KR = probably "Kontrollregler" = control knob
          Tab = short for "Tabelle" - you're gonna need some sort of calculating table.
          X_Bst and Y_Bst are derived from the Table multiplied by -1.

          alpha is some angle, most likely derived per Pythagoras with X and Y. Given the context we're probably talking about elevation.
          zeta is another angle, most likely the horizontal deviation, which is why they tell you to begin with putting it at 0-00.
          Angles are measured in xx,xx degrees, written xx-xx.

          V2 is given by X_FP, Y_FP, but is derived by reference to north. FP is supposed to be "angeschnitten" - cut, then E is measured, which somehow helps you adjusting KR with X_FP and Y_FP.

          X_Bst and Y_Bst might referred to "bestimmt" - so received or measured, I'm gonna guess using the binocular thing.

          That's all I can decipher without a manual. Does the thing have a name or even a number?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a OEM-2 from Karl Zeiss Jena, only other number I can remember is what I think is the serial number. About to go set it up now so I can get specific pics.
            The angle stuff probably refers to two of the viewfinders, one shows you your angle of elevation and the other shows you your heading, I have pics of both earlier in the thread.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Alright frens, part 2.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Business end

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Decided to take a pic of my cold war stuff together.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do people in U.S just don't care about something posing with their firearms in their backyard?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, not if they aren't homosexuals. Also that's my front yard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool piece of hit there Anon. And I love your G3. I have a Fero Z51, is that an Odelft HV 5x80 scope?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *kit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it is, my dad actually got a Fero Z51 from the same guy I got my Odelft from, only his had a case with all the shit still in it while mine was just the scope. Still works too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice. I wanted to add an Odelft into my collection. Protect that tube, they are unobtanium now. Mine died and i've been in contact with a couple other Fero Z51 owners with dead tubes as well. Oh well, at least I got a clwmount out of it. For some reason those go for moronic amounts here.

                Anyways, looking forward to you discovering more about this obscure rangefinder.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                An Anon actually linked me to a site that (I think) sells first generation image tubes but it's broken English and mine still works so I haven't looked into it too hard.

                http://www.hioptic.com/night-vision-equipment/iit-image-intensifier-tubes/1_generation_image_intensifier.htm

                I'll either update this thread or make a new one if I find anything significant out, glad some people thought it was interesting.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the thread anon, it's a very cool piece of technology

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is on the side

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.catawiki.com/de/l/23053113-deutschland-artillerie-oem-2-optischer-entfernungsmesser-binoculaireafstandmeter-1975

              Found some details, translate yourself:

              Carl Zeiss Jena OEM-2 Rangefinder mit Original Case, Zubehör & Stativ

              Der CZJ OEM-2 ist ein stereoskopischer optischer Entfernungsmesser (14 x 45) mit beweglichen Visieren. OEM-2 ("Optisches Entfernungs Messgerät Nº2") diente bei der NVA (NationaleVolksArmee) der ehemaligen DDR.
              Optischer Hightech-Entfernungsmesser vor der Einführung der aktuellen Lasertechnologie.
              Dieser zweiachsige Sichtkollimator passt die Sicht bei atmosphärischen Einflüssen und Erwärmungen an. OEM-2 wurde für die Artillerie-Beobachtung, die Bestimmung der linearen und Polarkoordinaten von Zielen / Treffern sowie die Bestimmung des Entfernungs- und Horizontal- / Vertikalwinkels entwickelt. Zivile Nutzung ist möglich.
              Das OEM-2 wurde während des Kalten Krieges (70er Jahre) produziert und war nach 1985 in einwandfreiem Zustand (detaillierte Aufzeichnungen / Handbuch) im Ruhestand.
              Diese einzigartige überlebende Einheit wurde anschließend in Maastricht / NL unberührt aufbewahrt (Sammelstelle / Verteilungsstelle [nicht Leiden / NL], bitte kontaktieren Sie die Lieferung).

              Technische Daten (weitere Angaben im Handbuch / Internet):
              Gewicht von OEM-2:27,5 kg;
              Gewicht des Stativs: 9,6 kg;
              Gewicht der Transport-und Lagerkoffer (alle Vorräte inklusive): 32,5 kg.
              Ehemaliger Verkaufspreis: 138.000,--M!
              Pflichtstrom: 6V DC

              More details: http://www.rwd-mb3.de/pages/oem.htm

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Found more:
                https://www.historische-bauelemente.com/catalogue/detail/optisches-entfernungsmessgerat-oem2-nva/28754
                "Optischer Entfernungsmesser"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aaaand here's a guide: https://www.ebay.de/itm/115856218436

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Originalpreis 170.000 DDR-Mark
                that's like almost half a million dollars kek

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Caius

    look at some stuff with it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not much to see, also not sure why the crosshair zooms way out when I switch to it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because they're different pieces of glass homie

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well yeah, but I don't know what the purpose is, it only zooms out one eye.
          Also it comes with so much shit, including it's own cute little volt meter.

          I wish I had space to store something like that and never use it but bring it up often

          That's exactly what I'm doing with it, but I'm not putting it away forever until I figure out how to use it, it doesn't seem to work like a normal coincidence rangefinder.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >supreme look of analyzing

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I had space to store something like that and never use it but bring it up often

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty cool looking, anon. While not a helpfull reply, I hope you find more info on it.

    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-military-rangefinder-carl-1851604849

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zeiss does have an Archive so they could have a manual for it laying around but of course its all in german and etc
    They might also ignore your emails and it could take a month for them to find it if they even have it still

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This site has all old publications for the OEM-2 available for reproduction here:

    https://www.archive.zeiss.de/vtrech.FAU?sid=A049BE32&dm=3&RO_ZEILE_1=oem-2

    Nr. 89889
    Accompanying booklet for optical rangefinder 2 (OEM2)
    70 pages

    Nr. 93079
    Optical rangefinder 2 - description and usage
    85 pages

    Nr. 64177
    Description and user manual for optical rangefinder 2 (OEM-2)
    91 pages

    Nr. 64177/1
    Optical rangefinder 2: short description
    5 pages

    No, I have no clue what's the difference between the first 3. Probably versioning, although it's the same publication year.

    But since they're Germans, they want you to do it 90's style:
    >To order files for viewing in the archive or reproductions of images or printed matter (charges apply), please send us a PDF with the selected items.
    Because of course they would. Can't just have people pay and download a pdf immediately, that would be too simple.

    (Frigging Germans)

    Anyway, try sending them an email, they'll most likely be helpful: [email protected]

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ay thanks Anon, I'll check it out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >To order files for viewing in the archive or reproductions of images or printed matter (charges apply), please send us a PDF with the selected items.
      OP should do this then upload it on Internet Archive or some shit like 3 months later lol. Frick shit like that especially for such massive companies. Just go Sony style and have a massive fricking collection of literally every product manual ever for download (within reason; I don't think they have like 50s/60s era stuff). Frick they still host every Trinitron manual ever. I know because I hauled a near 100 pound CRT home.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely this
        There no reason for any company to withhold manuals of their products behind a paywall unless its some new more confidential product like the F-35 or some micro chip laser machine bullshit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely this
        There no reason for any company to withhold manuals of their products behind a paywall unless its some new more confidential product like the F-35 or some micro chip laser machine bullshit

        This is tempting, I may do this.

        dude this right here is the instruction that tells you the steps how you have to do: "How to prepare EM and orientate it.". Just do the calculations wtf?

        Need to know which controls do what to do anything with this though, about all I know how to do is focus it, turn on the lights, and switch the reticle on and off.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you will be able to measure distances optically

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think I remember the general principles of this kind of finder. Basically when you look into the 'binoculars' you should see two identical images. You then have to use the dials to get the two lenses to angle closely so the images overlap = come into focus. Same thing like focusing on the tip of your nose. At that point you should be able to read out the distance on the dial. That only gives you the hypotenuse length though, so it probably uses fancy math / other settings to give height as well.

    From the plaque it seems to have electrical plugs as well, probably to attach it to artillery or something similar.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The plugs are for the internal lights and external test light. Also that's what I thought too but it has a separate knob that controls the distance rather than finding it once the two lenses focus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Figures that it wouldn't be this easy.

        Anyway, I managed to dig something up from the internet archive. Not a complete manual, but it gives a bit of info

        https://web.archive.org/web/20160309174821/http://home.arcor.de/thuernagel/oem2E.htm

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh shit this helps a ton, thanks Anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just found something I didn't notice before, I can turn on a grid thing in the left eye.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also dunno if this helps at all but I don't think I posted it yet.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey OP, Zeus’s seems to have an extensive archive going back many years. You might be able to find a whole slew of information regarding your device.
    https://www.zeiss.com/corporate/en/about-zeiss/past/history/archives.html

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Another Anon posted that I think, but thanks. I'll check it out in detail once I have the thing packed back up. I'm actually surprised some answers were able to be found so far really.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool thread and cool thingamabob.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And finally here she is in her big ass fiberglass case. Hopefully I've posted everything about this thing cause I'm not unpacking it again anytime soon. Thanks for the help and enjoying my weird milsurp.

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