Have you ever shot Expert in a qualification like in the military, be it army or marines?

Have you ever shot Expert in a qualification like in the military, be it army or marines?
Have you ever shot a full 40/40?
What tips or advice would you offer that most don't talk about in order to shoot 50-200-300meters in reflexive iterations?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Are you an EXPERT?

    Also how does someone improve beyond this and get even better?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In boot camp I was the second best shooter in my company by 1 point. Protips: remember the acronym BRASS (breathe, relax, aim, slow squeeze) and don't be a moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is it better to shoot while you inhale, exhale, or hold your breath?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not that anon, but shoot while holding your breath. When you exhale/inhale your chest moves out/in respectively, which reduces the stability of your rifle because the butt of the rifle is resting against the hollow of your shoulder.
        >source: being a conscript with decent shooting scores

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You don't want to hold breath because you will start getting fuzzy vision and you can only hold your breath and shoot for so long before it becomes an issue. Source: expert in the muhreens and now a project appleseed instructor.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, ok. Then how do you mitigate the chest moving thing when breathing? Not a troll, I will be having a shoot with my company in a few weeks. Could be useful advice.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You don't, your body will move so long as your lungs are inflating or deflating, shoot at the bottom of your breath like anon said but if you can't get a good sight picture in the time it takes to start shaking, breath and redo it on your next exhale. In an untimed competition there is no reason to rush.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This is bad advice. You want to be breathing otherwise you’ll get the shakes and pressure yourself into taking the shot. You want to control your breathing, slow and rhythmic, let your rifle move with your breathes, and time the shot for when you’re on target - either at the top or the bottom of your breathing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bottom of the exhale. That is the most consistent because full breath varies under stress and half breath is the same but even less consistent.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This. Also pull the trigger with the very tip of your finger. It probably wont matter if you're shooting supported but unsupported it prevents you from wanting to naturally tense the muscle that also controls some of your wrist movement and keeps your from torquing your wrist ever so slightly before you fire. It's not a big thing but it's just good form.
          Source: learned to shoot from my uncle who was a 1st cav in nam

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I was taught to exhale half way, pause, shoot, finish exhaling. Also do not forget body alignment behind the rifle. Depending on position, for prone I always found the right knee bend just caused me to tense up more. Also helps if you can occlude your non dominant eye, it sounds insignificant but tensing your cheek to close non-dom eye can be detrimental in some instances. If you have access to a sling do your research and learn how to implement it best in each position you will be shooting from. You should be comfortable, if your feeling tense, readjust and take your time. You should be able to fall asleep behind the rifle. I recommend Ryan Cleckner's book: LR shooting handbook.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's best to shoot when you can hold the reticle/iron on the target comfortably, practicing trigger control will do much more than any breath game will. breathing doesn't make a difference unless you're looking at actual long range shooting

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do some push-ups or whatever exercise you fancy to strengthen your arms, and practice holding your rifle in the shooting position for extended periods of time. If you’re going to be shooting in the standing position/prone position/without a sandbag or bipod, your arms will start to shake after a minute and then your aim gets wobbly, then after that you end up shooting like an idiot. Key to shooting well is holding rifle steadily and tightly for recoil control, as well.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pistol expert, never qualified with rifle (naval officer, ROTC). I was extremely hungover. That's the secret

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I barely qualified in the AF because the rotten fricking BCGs they game me when they took my glasses away.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh god don't get me started on that shit. im surprised it didn't frick my eyes more then they already are. I ended up shooting a 25/50, yes 50 because i couldn't see shit and i had to use those god awful inserts

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OP here
    What advice for holds would you give?
    Always aim Low?
    Aim at the berm?
    Aim at the dick?
    Cut target in half then cut it in half again?

    This is considering you have a 25/300m zero on your rifle / carbine

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Holds are dependent on your ammo and zero, record your dope for every 25-50m/y and practice accordingly. Windage in normal circumstances won't have major impacts inside of 300m/y

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Aim depending on how your weapon was zeroed. Guns also shoot in a arc, not a straight line. For example my issued gun is zeroed at 100m, so at 75m I aim a bit lower, at 150m I aim a bit higher.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on your zero. Most battle zeros allow for a constant point of aim when shooting at the torso for normal engagement ranges. Which in military terms makes total sense.
      If you do target shooting or hunting, you will need to create a DOPE card to know your exact holds for a given distance.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >DOPE card
        What’s this?

        Also how can you quickly estimate distance? Is it something that comes naturally or should you use a rangefinder? For that matter, how does a rangefinder work and how do you account for wind?

        it's best to shoot when you can hold the reticle/iron on the target comfortably, practicing trigger control will do much more than any breath game will. breathing doesn't make a difference unless you're looking at actual long range shooting

        Any advice on what to do if you’re left hand right eye dominant?

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can you get this badge if you’re a civilian? Like can you goto a base and trade some moronic recruitment speech for a chance to earn this qualification?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you get this badge if you’re a civilian?
      No.
      Yes if you buy it at a surplus store or Amazon or pin salesman.
      Like can you goto a base and trade some moronic recruitment speech for a chance to earn this qualification?
      No.
      Answer you're looking for: Earn a legit badge as a civilian through the Civilian Marksmanship Program

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shoot the dirt in front of the target which sprays rocks against the target and it will knock them down. 38-40/40 expert. That badge doesn’t mean shit tho. A good marxman and a good hunter are different things.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me where to find how to be a good huntsman
      Any good books for knowledge ?
      Or is it just being outdoorsy and hunting for years to build a sorta sense for things?

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I shot expert three times on the old qual (USMC) and anybody who doesn't get above 205 on table 1 is a moron. The course of fire was made for iron sights, doing it with an optic is ezpz

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Always shoot at the bottom of your breath.
    Sight alignment and sight picture should be the same every time.
    Squeeze the trigger and hold it to the rear , then release it intentionally.
    Keep your eye open when you fire.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Keep your eye open when you fire.
      You mean your non dominant eye? Won’t that frick with accuracy?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    40 of 40 here, circa 2008. Later went on to scout platoon and a dmr role on SKT's.

    Honestly it's just fundamentals. Get proficient with the little shit, and everything else falls into place.

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