the "uhm akshully the President doesn't need permission to use the Marines but does for the Army" is a myth that Marines LOVE to parrot but when asked to provide statutory language stating this, they never do. The President can, and does, regularly make use of Army assets in short duration combat missions without asking Congress for permission. The statutory differences between the Army and the Marines Corps is that the Army exists to conduct unified land operations, whereas the Marine Corps exists to support naval campaigns. That is the difference, not some magical 90 day loophole USMC propaganda lore.
>prevent mutinies
That was a brown people thing. The actual purpose of marines and how they were employed by proper navies is as a land going detachment. It hardly made sense to sail everywhere with dozens of transports filled with land armies just in the off chance you'd need them
The reason it fucking happened was because there was no marines and no officers to support the captains tyrannical bullshit and make sure no one Mutinies happened
yes you fucking idiot, they get different training because they do missions that are varied and large scale enough from the army to necessitate a separate branch. its the same thing that happened with the advent of aviation, as it grew in size and their missions became more independent and complex from other branches it necessitated their own branch in order to increase efficiency. littoral operations and beach landing are notoriously some of the most complex and logistically demanding operations, it wouldn't make sense to dump that all on the army which has their own problems to worry about
Well it's not true so we dont. Okinawa is the largest amphibious landingb in US history. D-day of course was larger as a whole but getting off ships on a cleared beach after the battle doesn't a landing make.
You realize the army is larger than the usmc? Right? The entire usmc was in the Pacific. It spearheaded every notable amphibious landing, the army would then follow or take less defended beaches. When you say retarded things like the army did most of the fighting that implies there were marines just jerking off somehwere. They were not
> literal entire Philippines Campaign > Marine infantry not present > GUYS WE DID ALL THE LANDING AND HARD FIGHTING!
Anon lmfao wtf fix your brain, you fell for the Belleau Wood TEUFELHUNDEN bullshit again
You are not assigned MOS based on intelligence in SOI. I have a GT score of 127 and an overall 93 on the ASVAB. Lmao, gay boot.
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That doesn’t make you not a dumbass, you stupid queer. I bet you never even went to Machine gun leaders, or AMGC since you probably just enlisted yesterday
>largest most successful amphibious landing in history conducted by the Army
I think they'll do fine, how do Marines cope with this?
Retards who know nothing about how military operations or history.
For one Marines did participate in D-Day and they also did work in North Africa and Italy. Hell they would even pull marine pilots to go fly army planes if they wanted to.
But that's besides the point, the entire reason why the marines were stuck in the pacific for the most part was because they go where the Navy goes and the Navy was a little mad that the Japanese blew up a bunch of their boats.
The Army on the other hand were trying to do what the president wanted which was to kill krauts because the british were real sad that they kept being bombed. Except McArthur who let the Philippines live rent free in his head, and since his pipe smoking skillz were too sick everyone let him sent an army to the pacific to "defend Australia"
No fucking need for them as a seperate branch, either merge them with the army or the navy. They've got their own fucking airforce. What kind of crap is this??!!
Its just a social experiment, treat one group like a bunch of animals and see how they react. Treat the other group like a bunch of animals and give them less funding and see how they react.
%3D Here is proofs and if you don’t want to use YouTube literally search up History Buffs: The Bounty on odysee.com or any other website that saves garden gnometube vids
The primary reason to have marines is to make the army have someone body to compete against. Imagine how fucking slovenly the US mil would be if only one service did everything, and their was no competition.
unrelated question, how tf do you guys get a good view while prone in a helmet? if you're wearing it low enough to actually protect your brain it's almost fucking impossible to see while prone in them
The Chinese Communist Party has purchased a tremendous amount of influence in Washington DC.
The United States Marine Corps is especially suited, more so than any other western military, to fight the Chinese in the south Pacific. Amphibious doctrine, supported and integrated with US Navy shipping and logistics and a proud history of fighting amongst the different islands of the Pacific Ocean makes the United States Marine Corps especially well suited to fight the Chinese for control of the Pacific Ocean alongside the US Navy.
Understand that people that question the United States Marine Corps existence are either Chinese agents or their useful idiots.
Huh, I always figured that every branch was dictated by it's geography (space, air, land, sea), but that the Marines are dictated by it's combat doctrine.
I always thought that the other branches focused on long-range indirect firepower to obliterate the enemy from hundreds of miles away, and that the Marines were used for directly assaulting the enemy when simply bombing the crap out of the enemy from a safe distance is not possible or too much collateral damage.
marines, in theory, are a amphibious landing force able to sustain themselves on naval logistics
in practice, the same qualities that make them ideal for fighting on beaches and islands like outsized firepower compared to their logistical footprint make them a great fast-reaction force to deploy even on land
How many times have we had this thread?
No idea, what conclusions were drawn in the previous ones?
Specific niches justify separate branches. Also it enables the 90d legal loophole before Congress has to get involved.
the "uhm akshully the President doesn't need permission to use the Marines but does for the Army" is a myth that Marines LOVE to parrot but when asked to provide statutory language stating this, they never do. The President can, and does, regularly make use of Army assets in short duration combat missions without asking Congress for permission. The statutory differences between the Army and the Marines Corps is that the Army exists to conduct unified land operations, whereas the Marine Corps exists to support naval campaigns. That is the difference, not some magical 90 day loophole USMC propaganda lore.
conclusions you don't give a shit about because if you wanted the answer you'd have just googled it.
Literally no. Americans are fucking dumb. Marines are a relic from a time when soldiers had to stay on ships and prevent mutinies.
>prevent mutinies
That was a brown people thing. The actual purpose of marines and how they were employed by proper navies is as a land going detachment. It hardly made sense to sail everywhere with dozens of transports filled with land armies just in the off chance you'd need them
lack of marines was what enabled the mutiny on the bounty to go down. or are the brits not a "proper navy"
>because it happened once for other reasons, this is why they existed at all
You have to be fucking retarded to think like this
The reason it fucking happened was because there was no marines and no officers to support the captains tyrannical bullshit and make sure no one Mutinies happened
>Muh brown people
isn't that the australian army on the left
gee did the australian camouflage give it away? or mayb the rifle? Perhaps the word AUSTRALIA on the patch? Fuck off tripfag
suckstart a 12g for killing a thread to make this monthly newfag post
yes you fucking idiot, they get different training because they do missions that are varied and large scale enough from the army to necessitate a separate branch. its the same thing that happened with the advent of aviation, as it grew in size and their missions became more independent and complex from other branches it necessitated their own branch in order to increase efficiency. littoral operations and beach landing are notoriously some of the most complex and logistically demanding operations, it wouldn't make sense to dump that all on the army which has their own problems to worry about
Why did they use the army for normandy then?
Because the entire USMC was occupied in the Pacific with several US Army groups fighting with them?
>largest most successful amphibious landing in history conducted by the Army
I think they'll do fine, how do Marines cope with this?
Well it's not true so we dont. Okinawa is the largest amphibious landingb in US history. D-day of course was larger as a whole but getting off ships on a cleared beach after the battle doesn't a landing make.
Most of the pacific war was fought by the Army. They just didnt get the good pr books
You realize the army is larger than the usmc? Right? The entire usmc was in the Pacific. It spearheaded every notable amphibious landing, the army would then follow or take less defended beaches. When you say retarded things like the army did most of the fighting that implies there were marines just jerking off somehwere. They were not
> literal entire Philippines Campaign
> Marine infantry not present
> GUYS WE DID ALL THE LANDING AND HARD FIGHTING!
Anon lmfao wtf fix your brain, you fell for the Belleau Wood TEUFELHUNDEN bullshit again
t. 0331 now 11B
>0331
>implying you’re not the retards the retards in 03xx make fun of
You’re opinion doesn’t matter, doubly so if you were CAAT
You are not assigned MOS based on intelligence in SOI. I have a GT score of 127 and an overall 93 on the ASVAB. Lmao, gay boot.
That doesn’t make you not a dumbass, you stupid queer. I bet you never even went to Machine gun leaders, or AMGC since you probably just enlisted yesterday
> You're
>they do missions that are varied
bro they do exactly the same shit
the army did more beach landing and operations than the marines did in ww2 thoughever
Retards who know nothing about how military operations or history.
For one Marines did participate in D-Day and they also did work in North Africa and Italy. Hell they would even pull marine pilots to go fly army planes if they wanted to.
But that's besides the point, the entire reason why the marines were stuck in the pacific for the most part was because they go where the Navy goes and the Navy was a little mad that the Japanese blew up a bunch of their boats.
The Army on the other hand were trying to do what the president wanted which was to kill krauts because the british were real sad that they kept being bombed. Except McArthur who let the Philippines live rent free in his head, and since his pipe smoking skillz were too sick everyone let him sent an army to the pacific to "defend Australia"
>integrate marines into army
>marines instantly forget everything they know
What is the model of that headset on the left?
Z tac bowman or something.
They're really fucking uncomfortable, the strap never sits properly
No fucking need for them as a seperate branch, either merge them with the army or the navy. They've got their own fucking airforce. What kind of crap is this??!!
>I miss prewar PrepHole
>it was just threads like this, twice a week ad neaseum
These threads have more soul than mindlessly calling someone a ukrop or vatmoron
Its just a social experiment, treat one group like a bunch of animals and see how they react. Treat the other group like a bunch of animals and give them less funding and see how they react.
Marines are more cost effective with less red tape when you want killing done, you are now up to date.
you are right Australia doesn't need an army we should just station the US marines in Australia and make it the 51th state
The US Marines are literally American VDV. Sometimes you just need disposable cannon fodder huffed on "esprit de corps" and machismo.
itt turdworlders jelly we get 2 armies when they can't even manage to field one.
%3D Here is proofs and if you don’t want to use YouTube literally search up History Buffs: The Bounty on odysee.com or any other website that saves garden gnometube vids
The primary reason to have marines is to make the army have someone body to compete against. Imagine how fucking slovenly the US mil would be if only one service did everything, and their was no competition.
unrelated question, how tf do you guys get a good view while prone in a helmet? if you're wearing it low enough to actually protect your brain it's almost fucking impossible to see while prone in them
The Chinese Communist Party has purchased a tremendous amount of influence in Washington DC.
The United States Marine Corps is especially suited, more so than any other western military, to fight the Chinese in the south Pacific. Amphibious doctrine, supported and integrated with US Navy shipping and logistics and a proud history of fighting amongst the different islands of the Pacific Ocean makes the United States Marine Corps especially well suited to fight the Chinese for control of the Pacific Ocean alongside the US Navy.
Understand that people that question the United States Marine Corps existence are either Chinese agents or their useful idiots.
They don’t have the same equipment though. They also have different missions. I think you may need to do more research on the topic.
Huh, I always figured that every branch was dictated by it's geography (space, air, land, sea), but that the Marines are dictated by it's combat doctrine.
I always thought that the other branches focused on long-range indirect firepower to obliterate the enemy from hundreds of miles away, and that the Marines were used for directly assaulting the enemy when simply bombing the crap out of the enemy from a safe distance is not possible or too much collateral damage.
marines, in theory, are a amphibious landing force able to sustain themselves on naval logistics
in practice, the same qualities that make them ideal for fighting on beaches and islands like outsized firepower compared to their logistical footprint make them a great fast-reaction force to deploy even on land
Because proper countries don't run conscript armies and can specialize.
US Navy needs tops to fuck their loose assholes, hence the US Marines. US Army are all versatile and flip fuck so they are self contained.
I can see your stupid high and tight haircut through the screen