Hate on this brand openly and say what they do/dont do that pisses you the fuck off.

Hate on this brand openly and say what they do/dont do that pisses you the frick off.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are not more expensive than Glock in my country.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No I wont and you are a homosexual.
    Heckler und Koch - Herrenrasse!

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely refuse to cater to anybody but military.
    >America wants semi-auto MP7
    how about more 3500$ MP5s
    >Civvie G36
    how about another SL8
    >Can we get modern rails on USPs? how about night sights standard on Mk23
    how about frick you?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lol typical Germans

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >how about another SL8
      They make civvie G36s (HK243) but only for the Euro market and from the availability you'd think the absolute Black folk make a SINGLE DIGIT number of these, ANNUALLY.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >and from the availability you'd think the absolute Black folk make a SINGLE DIGIT number of these, ANNUALLY.
        They are made for professional sport shooters, not stupid cowboys and LARPers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What makes you think you deserve any of this?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not subtle enough.

        >and from the availability you'd think the absolute Black folk make a SINGLE DIGIT number of these, ANNUALLY.
        They are made for professional sport shooters, not stupid cowboys and LARPers

        This is more like it, you're getting pretty close to what a HK rep sounds like.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Family heirloom.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What is it?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            a plaque commemorating a trip made by party members to then-German Prussia, given to my great grandfather by the Gauleiter

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      HK is fricking great.

      they hate you more than you could ever hate them

      Lol typical Germans

      https://i.imgur.com/EPxibzx.jpg

      >how about another SL8
      They make civvie G36s (HK243) but only for the Euro market and from the availability you'd think the absolute Black folk make a SINGLE DIGIT number of these, ANNUALLY.

      https://i.imgur.com/NxQOyyA.jpg

      These refuse to release my raifu. I cannot and will not forgive them for this very irrational and personal slight

      Look up the actual history of the US government fricking with HK whenever they tried to export shit to the US.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We've been over this. By the time HK convinces the German government to sell a commercial G36/MP7 in CONUS, redesigns the thing so the ATF doesn't arbitrarily declare it illegal, and gets the tooling and parts set up to make 922 compliant guns, it'll cost like 3-4k and morons will complain it's an overpriced 22 mag PCC. Which it is, but that's not the point.

      I'd love nothing more than some commercial G36 or updated 416 models to be sold here, but you're fighting against some pretty conservative German business culture and unstable politics.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        US import laws are completely fricked in general, I feel like most of this anger towards HK not importing civvie G36/MP7 should be directed towards our dumbass politicians. Trump could have done some damage to the draconian regulations but he doesn't care about guns so we're still stuck with it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tommybuilt getting retroactively fricked by the ATF over the G36 conversions basically scrapped any possibility of HK wanting to take a risk on something like that for the marginally small profit they would make on commercial sales.

          I remember hearing a few places that HK isn't nearly as well off as people assume and their defense contracts are rather limited. They're in no position to be adventurous.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They are run by fricking morons who couldn’t get laid in a prostitutehouse with a fistful of hundreds. Needing to be bridge loaned working capital (probably from the GER gov) and having your workers work for free and give up bonuses - marks of poor management.

            https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/gearscout/irons/2019/06/12/heckler-koch-maker-of-the-marine-corps-m27-is-in-dire-straits/

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              This, it’s bad management more than anything else.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Kevin B had a cool podcast with Wayne Weber, the former president of HKUSA that talks a bit about the internal culture and business of HK and the contrast between the US division and German.

              Definitely some blamed attached to management at the top, but I'll also say that they were/are in a contract desert for the most part. Up until very recently, the last thing any Euro defense minister wanted to spend money on was the military. With nations looking to rearm/modernize/NATO-ize, HK should be on their hands and knees shilling products right now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn’t really matter aside from the limitations the German government puts on them. Do what Zastava does, set up a domestic outlet in America that makes a few odds and ends and then import the maximum you can from Germany. The gun is like 30 years old now and is 90% polymer, I can’t see how it can be that expensive compared to something like the various imported AKs. If HK were wise they’d take advantage of total AR fatigue on the market and offer a competitively priced alternative. I can understand if the German government were cucking them were preventing them from doing this but I imagine it’s probably arrogance more than anything. There’s no way they’re making more money selling a few $3000 MP5s than if they were sub $1,000 and on every gun store in the county, and same with the G36

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >just make it cheaper
          Gee, I wonder why a pcc with a proprietary/finicky roller delayed operating system and proprietary furniture/parts only made by one company is more expensive than a blowback gun using AR furniture and Glock mags.

          Aside from like the G95 contract, which I think is still stalled, I don't think HK has any sort of capacity to ramp up mass cheap production of anything. The G36 lines are like 30-40 years old and probably were at capacity once in their lifetime.

          Their best shot if they were allowed, would be to bring something like the HK433 to market as it's literally designed as a cheaper alternative to the G36/416 and wouldn't suffer from AR fatigue. It still isn't going to be a sub $2k gun though.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm shocked they haven't set up a US branch like so many other companies. You'd thunk after selling so many guns to the US market the thought would've crossed their mind. I mean SIG, FN, Beretta and a lot of their competition have already done it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They have, they make the HK45 in the United States

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Could be totally wrong here but IIRC Germany doesn't just look at where the guns are made on their end. When it comes to what they consider "arms trafficking" the definition is really broad. Even if they were technically making or finishing the guns stateside if the German government didn't like what they were doing they can still go after HK Germany over it. This combined with age old pissiness over the AWB is likely why there isn't an HK USA pumping out G36 and 416s, a few of those ending up in shootings and they'd be in hot water with a German government feeling political pressure to "do something".

          >just make it cheaper
          Gee, I wonder why a pcc with a proprietary/finicky roller delayed operating system and proprietary furniture/parts only made by one company is more expensive than a blowback gun using AR furniture and Glock mags.

          Aside from like the G95 contract, which I think is still stalled, I don't think HK has any sort of capacity to ramp up mass cheap production of anything. The G36 lines are like 30-40 years old and probably were at capacity once in their lifetime.

          Their best shot if they were allowed, would be to bring something like the HK433 to market as it's literally designed as a cheaper alternative to the G36/416 and wouldn't suffer from AR fatigue. It still isn't going to be a sub $2k gun though.

          >MP5
          >proprietary/finicky roller delayed operating system and proprietary furniture/parts only made by one company
          What? HK isn't and hasn't been the only company making MP5s since literally forever. They've licensed out the design and outright been copied by numerous manufacturers over the years. They'd never be sub 1k but 1500-2000 would be very possible.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they hate you more than you could ever hate them

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >what they do/dont do that pisses you the frick off

    They won't sell me an HK243 SAR that's what pisses me the frick off.
    Shit's unobtanium in whole of Europe.
    Frick this gay Earth.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >unobtanium in whole of Europe.
      https://www.gunfinder.de/suche?query=Heckler%20%26%20Koch%20HK243%20S%20SAR
      expensive but available

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh it got better since I last checked
        Thanks Anon
        There's paperwork to fill out

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/EPxibzx.jpg

      >how about another SL8
      They make civvie G36s (HK243) but only for the Euro market and from the availability you'd think the absolute Black folk make a SINGLE DIGIT number of these, ANNUALLY.

      >google it
      >2000 bux on several stores
      >all available in 1-3 days
      ???

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are turbohomosexuals, which for Germans is completely normal so I can't fault them for that. What I can't stand are the jizzsippers who simp for them. And yes I can afford their shit.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is building an H&K 416 """clone""" really worth it over something like a scar16? A genuine factory 416 upper goes for about $6k at auction, and I would have to get an mr556 lower and send it to some guy in Arizona to be remarked to resemble an actual 416 lower, it's just all so tiresome.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why care so much about a rollmark?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All their sins are forgiven for writing this in a manual of arms.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hate that they haven't just up and left Germany yet. The German government fricks them over at every turn and tries to shit on them in every way possible, now beyond just simple meddling in what they can sell but frivolous lawsuits and trying to adopt guns that violate HK patents just to frick with HK.

    Frankly they should leave and make guns here so they can actually sell them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know das vaterland luft allows for superior hardened barrels
      Oh nien oh nien ja ja das no gud

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They remind me of the Nips, not exporting DVDs or Fumos because frick you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      suffering

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    These refuse to release my raifu. I cannot and will not forgive them for this very irrational and personal slight

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    German KAC, knows what they got no upper receiver slappers try to hit them with the ol' competitive pricing logic and they remove the gun from the civilian market entirely.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    HK could have made the bore axis on the VP9 better (on par with a Glock) instead they just put a striker into a P30.

    They need to make US made 416 uppers.

    pic not related

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    my hk elite 45 is cool and all but my glock 41 is superior in every way

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Really? I have a regular USP 45 and love it, heard great things about the elite as well. What does the Glock 41 do better for you?

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >build the largest firearms factory in the US
    >don't make anything in it besides M27s, P30s, HK45s, and M320s
    I don't get it. They could easily give USDM uncucked MR556s, they can easily adapt the G36 so you're not buying from a tool like Tommybuilt, they can do all sorts of things they just don't. I know part of it nowadays is the Germoid government but they should stop them if they actually pushed it.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they dont sell to civilians and wont do repros of some of their classic models that would sell like hot cakes

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you fricking homosexuals
    just release civvie versions of your guns instead of your gayass civie modifications

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >they dont sell me the guns i want
    >they make me pay too much for cool shit
    The biggest complaint you can throw at HK is that they make the coolest shit and average joe can't get them. SP5 israelitery aside, I want a PSG1, I want a new P7, I want a recreational G11, a fricking MP7, a production CAWS. Fricking Germans and their space magic

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Their price tags for polymer framed handguns are insane, they're like boomers on fuddbroker who "know what I got". But people keep buying them anyways so I guess that really is their value.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They embody the post-war German idiosyncrasy of having tremendous capability and a powerful position but no fricking balls whatsoever.
    Don't want to sell to civilians, but simultaneously very finicky about selling to militaries.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is the only H&K I want

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's mine.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They heckle wieners

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    HK is gay Steyr and FN are based simple as
    HK pistol capacity/size/bore axis is unacceptable
    None of their guns are cost efficient

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >HK is gay
      Yes
      >Steyr and FN are based
      Frick no, both are companies selling ancient overpriced shit and are now resting on their laurels without any hint of innovating anymore.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's because when they innovated people didn't buy it
        They tried for a lot longer than HK though

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No mk. 23 in 10mm

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Can you 10mm gays not shit up one thread? There’s no way HK is making anything in your dumbass meme caliber. In fact, I bet you don’t even own a 10mm.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Overpriced and funded by feds/cartels.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They stopped selling guns in my country because a commie politician got ventilated by MP5s

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Where the frick is my MP7 HK you wienersucking BDSM prostitutes

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Theoretically HK doesn't even need to sell guns to anyone because the German government is almost certain to bail them out of bankruptcy anyways. While de jure HK presents itself as a public company it's basically for all intents and purposes a de-facto state owned defense enterprise by the German government, and if they make money it's seen as a bonus rather than the primary purpose for it existing.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Also, some dude just shot a bunch of folks in Germany with an HK pistol. So expect the German gov to further tighten the screws on HK.

    The last thing HK wants is some gang banger in the US to be caught with an SP7 because it's "armor piercing" and have the US gov have a meltdown, the German gov have a meltdown and the two of them to spitroast HK.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The last thing HK wants is some gang banger in the US to be caught with an SP7 because it's "armor piercing" and have the US gov have a meltdown, the German gov have a meltdown and the two of them to spitroast HK.

      I don't know if that plays into it at all, I mean Nidal Hasan used a Five-seven during his mass shooting and no one blamed FN or the Belgium government for it. And dozens of other European companies export "Assault weapons" to the US without worrying about that. I think it's more of a case where HK just doesn't want to spend the startup capital required to start assembling/manufacturing their long guns in the US because they don't need too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I agree that it's a minor concern, but I think it's definitely a concern in the German gov's mind about their appearances. They very much want to be seen as a responsible agent who has military power without any of the yucky things related to it and having quintessential German weapons showing up in a bad light is no good.

        FN has gotten chapped a few times over the 5.7 and "Cop Killer " ammunition, but the Belgians aren't nearly as self flagellating as the Germans.

        You're right though in that it's mostly the lack of capital/desire to spend capital to set up manufacturing to sell relatively few expensive guns.

  31. 1 year ago
    MilSurpDude

    The very existence of the UMP45 is such a joke that it's insulting.

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