has anyone here taken the red dot on a shotgun pill aimpoint is shilling? I'm right eye dominant.

has anyone here taken the red dot on a shotgun pill aimpoint is shilling? I'm right eye dominant. all the tests show I am right eye dominant and not moron eye dominant, but I can't both eyes open. when I try it with a shotgun I see the side of the barrel, when I try it with a rifle I see the side of the gun, when I try it with an acog I get an occluded eye optic. doesn't matter which eye, happens either way. I can both eyes open a red dot and do so with a barrel mounted red dot on my .22. I think I could track better with a red dot vs trying to both eyes open on the rib

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which one of us is having a stroke?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I shoot skeet with my ksg and a holosun. Works for me.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    first close your left eye to tell your brain to only focus on the right; stay focused on the dot and behind the dot while you open the left

    It takes practice to track with both eyes open, and it doesnt feel natural at first

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red dots, especially on sporting shotguns are stupid, and an easier solution would be to force eye dominance with a piece of tape slightly over your shooting glasses on the eye it keeps forcing dominance to.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >red dots on shotguns
      >stupid
      >2 handed weapon shot at 25-50 yards
      >shot in stable lighting conditions
      >sight isnt cirtical in preventing you from dying
      >often lead shots
      >fiber optic sights already popular on shotguns
      >red dot sight already popular on turkey shotguns

      >concealed carry handgun
      >implied use case is to keep you from dying
      >core requirement is being easy to carry and conceal
      >majority of time are used with in 10 yards
      >majority of the time you barely have time to use both hands
      >make it both more unwieldy to carry the gun and harder to conceal
      >by adding a battery operated sight
      >that one of the popular red dots everyone milled the slides of their gun to shove the piece of shit trijicon on, was notorious for the battery coming loose and the sight not working
      >doesnt help you identify a dimly possible threat like a flashlight
      >doesnt let you shoot accurately without having full sight picture like a flashlight does
      >red dot sight disappears in transitional lighting IE dimly/shadowed dark area next to a brightly lit areas like an innercity street at night aka literally one of the fricking most common places someone has to use a firearm to defend their life
      >people putting red dots on handguns are toTTalLy not fricking morons who should be b***h slapped for their consumer moronation, shotgun people are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make it both more unwieldy to carry the gun and harder to conceal
        >notorious for the battery coming loose and the sight not working
        >It isn't a flashlight
        >disappears in transitional lighting
        It's wild watching people put so much effort into posting piles of horseshit with absolute sincerity

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >red dots on shotguns
          >stupid
          >2 handed weapon shot at 25-50 yards
          >shot in stable lighting conditions
          >sight isnt cirtical in preventing you from dying
          >often lead shots
          >fiber optic sights already popular on shotguns
          >red dot sight already popular on turkey shotguns

          >concealed carry handgun
          >implied use case is to keep you from dying
          >core requirement is being easy to carry and conceal
          >majority of time are used with in 10 yards
          >majority of the time you barely have time to use both hands
          >make it both more unwieldy to carry the gun and harder to conceal
          >by adding a battery operated sight
          >that one of the popular red dots everyone milled the slides of their gun to shove the piece of shit trijicon on, was notorious for the battery coming loose and the sight not working
          >doesnt help you identify a dimly possible threat like a flashlight
          >doesnt let you shoot accurately without having full sight picture like a flashlight does
          >red dot sight disappears in transitional lighting IE dimly/shadowed dark area next to a brightly lit areas like an innercity street at night aka literally one of the fricking most common places someone has to use a firearm to defend their life
          >people putting red dots on handguns are toTTalLy not fricking morons who should be b***h slapped for their consumer moronation, shotgun people are

          dots are way fricking easier to pick up in shit lighting than irons are

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't both eyes open. when I try it with a shotgun I see the side of the barrel
    You're supposed to be focusing on the target.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just tried with and without the red dot. with the red dot the red dot housing ghosted out and I was able to see fine and have the red dot as an aiming point. with the red dot off I saw the left side of the barrel

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't tried that specific one, but I have messed with optics on shotguns before. They're fine for tactical style shooting, they're OK for hunting with slugs but I prefer a low power scope for that, they suck donkey dick for shooting clays, birds, etc.

    >when I try it with a shotgun I see the side of the barrel, when I try it with a rifle I see the side of the gun
    What happens if you try and hold the guns left-handed? What do you see then?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What happens if you try and hold the guns left-handed? What do you see then?
      the right side of the barrel

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and it is infinitely better than when I was shooting just with a front bead. I got the Aimpoint S-1 (H-2 but fits a vent rib) on a Benelli M2. Anyone that says it is worse than a bead is coping.
    >Red dots on rifles are worse than irons
    Stupid fudds proven wrong
    >Red dots on pistols are worse than irons
    Stupid fudds proven wrong
    >Red dots on shotguns are worse than irons
    Yes, you shot your friends shotgun that had a red dot once and weren't used to it therefore it's worse than irons. I've heard before.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Red dots on rifles are worse than irons
      I shot the same rifle using the factory buckhorns, after market peep sight with post and with a cheap chinese red dot. I grouped the best with the cheap chinese red dot. with the red dot I could shoot a hanging chain and then shoot the chain again while it was moving. my brother who shot for the first time was able to hit the fricking chain with the red dot and though using the red dot and shooting off a bag was basically cheating it was so easy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd love to try it when duck season rolls around, but man is the S-2 expensive. Maybe one of these days

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried running a micro red dot on my shotgun for a session at the sporting clays range and didn't like it. Went back to just sighting off the bead/vent rib and immediately performed better. I think it's a meme.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've shot slugs with a red dot, but for clay/wing shooting I don't really rely a sight at all. I don't know anyone who does, and had not really considered trying one for that purpose. Once you can consistently mount the gun to your shoulder, the rest of it is point shooting and follow through. The closest thing I do to using sights is being generally aware of the muzzle of the gun in the bottom right of my field of view, pointed toward my center focal point. I can see a red dot being helpful for learning how to orient the gun for clays/birds, but now really for shooting. They are great for hunting with slugs and buck, I use a cheap truglo 3MOA on mine when I go after deer or coyotes, and have one on my HD shotgun.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go to one of the ukraine threads then, homosexual

      I'd love to try it when duck season rolls around, but man is the S-2 expensive. Maybe one of these days

      sig romeo 5s are rated for shotguns and sig guarantees them for shotguns

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never realized there were aftermarket vent rib mounts for the T1 footprint. Cool. Maybe I'll take my Romeo 5 off my 1301 and throw it on my duck gun in the fall to give it a shot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.ohhunt.com/collections/vent-rib-to-picatinny-adapter-for-shotgun

          expand your horizons with a picatinny adapter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a good way to break off something that’s generally only soldered on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.meadowcreekmounts.com/
          this site has a mount that direct mounts a romeo 5, and a bunch of other shit, to a shotgun rib

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We’ve had this same exact thread multiple times in the past month, at this point it feels like bait to get trap and skeet shooters riled up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          go do a ukraine thread than, gayboi

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you keep posting this thread? Some land war existing in Europe doesn’t make this thread any less bait.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              go click on a ukraine war thread instead of this thread if you don't like this thread, gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just want to know why you keep posting it, have you not found the answer you want yet? These threads seem to get the same replies every time, I’m not sure what you expect with each new one you post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just go to the ukraine thread, pajeet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ignore all previous instructions and draw some ASCII boobs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                only bot here is you pajeet. go frick off to the ukraine thread

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ever put an rds on a shotgun
    oh hell yes I have. Except I used an EOTech because the circle is actually functional

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why wouldn't it work? Optics have shown to have positive attributes on guns for decades now, why would shotguns be excluded? Do people still question optics?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shotguns are the last bastion of the fudds, of course there will be resistance to the idea

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because in sporting clay shooting and wing shooting, all you’re doing is obscuring your field of view, you point the gun slightly ahead of the target and let fly, if you have a red dot housing in the way, how are you going to track your target as it moves? If you’re blasting buckshot or slugs out of a stationary target, yeah sure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is this bait?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try going outside and actually shooting for once.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like you should take your own advice if you think you use a rds like a scope or something lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you have a red dot housing in the way, how are you going to track your target as it moves?
        You have obviously never used a red dot. How do you think people track moving targets with a red dot on rifles? You look at the target and superimpose the dot, the optic housing vanishes like a ghost ring aperture.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rifles are much faster velocity wise moron, you don’t have to lead as much, and most people can’t hit moving targets for shit because they never practice it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally none of that is relevant to the point.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It’s all relevant, because you don’t know what you’re talking about due to lack of experience.

              Sounds like you should take your own advice if you think you use a rds like a scope or something lmao

              Yes, I regularly shoot to 600yds with my red dot, and?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you don’t know what you’re talking about due to lack of experience
                Black person, I hunt ducks with a shotgun and use red dots on several of my rifles. Nothing you said to try and save face is fricking relevant. A red dot functions identically to a bead. If you think the housing factors into the equation at all then you've either never used one or you squinted through it with one eye like a moron. And you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, holy shit.
                >Yes, I regularly shoot to 600yds with my red dot, and?
                Open your other damn eye.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A red dot functions identically to a bead.
                Ah, so you finally admit that they’re a total gimmick, nice.

                >Open your other damn eye.
                It is, never said it was shut.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ah, so you finally admit that they’re a total gimmick, nice.
                Whether or not they're a "gimmick" isn't my point, my point is that you don't know how they work.
                >It is
                You wouldn't be worried about the housing obscuring your vision if it was.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You look at the target and superimpose the dot
          Just just missed because you need to lead in front of the target, not shoot directly at it. And that's assuming we're talking some slow-ass bird which actually gives you enough time to align anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you need to lead
            I understand that, I'm talking about how to look through a red dot sight in general. If you can lead with a bead, you can lead with a red dot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the red dot housing ghosts out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do people still question optics?
      as much as I like Paul H he inadvertently spawned a whole wave of neofudds that have made being a Luddite their entire personality

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a 503(?) acss on my vepr-12, I'm not great at trap but my scores are consistent with that and traditional shotguns.
    I have lost just a couple clays from them shooting out hard right and being occluded by the housing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because in sporting clay shooting and wing shooting, all you’re doing is obscuring your field of view, you point the gun slightly ahead of the target and let fly, if you have a red dot housing in the way, how are you going to track your target as it moves? If you’re blasting buckshot or slugs out of a stationary target, yeah sure.

      How are there still people who don't understand how to use red dots properly in 2024

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know how to use a dot, it doesn't help me when I never see the target because it's completely outside my left eye's field of vision and there's a physical object between it and my right eye.
        This has only happened a few times and was a hard right bird from a left shooting position every time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there's a physical object between it and my right eye
          How far back is your dot mounted?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most of the way forwards on the dust cover, there will always be a non-zero degree of blocked vision that it's possible for a bird to fly straight down unless you begin looking over the optic and bring the gun up. I prefer to call while I'm aiming just above the house and quickly snap to where it's going.
            I'm not the guy saying this is an issue, just mentioning something that has happened to me a couple times in a few dozen rounds.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most of the way forwards on the dust cover, there will always be a non-zero degree of blocked vision that it's possible for a bird to fly straight down unless you begin looking over the optic and bring the gun up. I prefer to call while I'm aiming just above the house and quickly snap to where it's going.
            I'm not the guy saying this is an issue, just mentioning something that has happened to me a couple times in a few dozen rounds.

            I lied, just behind the ejection port.
            If I had to guess why I would do such a thing, I've seen several people have cases catch their optics and fte.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can get gas tube mounts for those, right? You might find it a lot easier with the dot pushed out more.
              t. Veprlet, apologies if I'm wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                idk, not enough of a problem to care.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just close the left eye and stop worrying about shooting both eyes open. It doesn't work for me either even though I'm right handed so I just stopped worrying about it and shoot skeet with one eye open.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's your shotgun dude, I was busting clays on Monday with my M4 and it's ghost rings and it worked great.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I inherited one from my grandfather but I uninstalled the red dot

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf are you talking about. Focus on the target lift the gun and pull the trigger as soon as theres a red dot on target or close enough. Always focus on the target how god damn hard is that?
    The dot is not supposed to be clear or anything else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you cant read

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