Has anyone else wondered why the Russians don't even try to destroy the weapons shipments being sent to Ukraine? Like I understand why they don't attack inside the EU/NATO, but why wouldn't they hit the areas where the weapons are imported and stashed WITHIN Ukraine? This would be the ideal job for their hypersonic missiles. I don't hear of many attempts to do something like this other than that one time a missile hit somewhere in Eastern Poland.
Why not destroy the weapons and vehicles that fuel Ukraine's fighting ability as soon as they enter Ukraine before they even get deployed or come close to the front?
Russian missiles can only hit apartment sized, stationary targets like hospitals and civilian residential structures.
because their intel and general competence are lacking, and because blowing up a cargo plane or personnel from a nato country would be a bad idea
>Russian incompetence
No one is denying that but this kind of things is quite hard to hide. Ukraine is totally reliant on Western military aid right now so it's impossible to believe that the Russians don't know where these weapons are being imported and stored.
Maybe that's it. They have so much work to do on the frontlines that they can't afford to launch missiles into the far Western parts that will probably get shot down.
Man they couldn't even hit a fucking runway, you think they can hit a cargo plane
btw the pic in OP is from March 2022. They've been trucking everything into Ukraine since around July 2022 because they I assume they don't want planes filled with weapons shot down.
So why doesn't Russia blow up the roads the trucks use? Or blow up the depots where the trucks are loaded?
>So why doesn't Russia blow up the roads the trucks use? Or blow up the depots where the trucks are loaded?
That's my question. There's general incompetence which is for sure a big reason as we have seen throughout this war from the Russian side. But keep in mind that the Russians are dying en masse because of Western weapons. Ukraine is surviving off of Western weapons. It should be a big priority, speaking from the Russian perspective. Maybe that's how good NATO is at hiding weapon imports.
The missiles with that kind of range are expensive, low in stock, and not accurate. It's not smart to use a million dollar missile to blow up a road that can be fixed the next day for a few hundred dollars.
My guess is because roads are easy to repair and you can just drive around a small crater in the flat territory that is most of Ukraine.
Bridges would be the priority cause you can't just drive around them, and they take longer to fix.
>They've been trucking everything into Ukraine since around July 2022
they still use rail
>they can't afford to launch missiles into the far Western parts that will probably get shot down
They could just about afford to hit a power line near the Polish border with a kaliber but that was a year ago and a concerted campaign by General Armageddonintotrouble.
Hitting a depot that probably has air defence isn't going to work, assuming they can even find where the deliveries are staged inside Ukraine.
They may well not be staged at a convenient depot, much safer to truck them from the Polish airbase directly to much smaller depots around the front which shift location now and then.
Good luck hitting a moving truck with anything you can launch from a ship 300km away.
>General Imagittinouttahere
>Imagittinouttahere
He got arrested though, not so much outahere as get the fuck outahere
>hit a power line near the Polish border with a kaliber
Wasn't a Kalibr. It was Ukrainian missile. But keep lying NAFO shill.
I didn't say that a Kalibr hit Poland, I said that Russia fired Kalibrs at Ukrainian powerlines near Poland, which is true.
I'd say that your reading comprehension sucks but really, you're just being disingenuous and pretending not to understand people as an excuse to deny their words and pretend you're responded to them.
I know you don't think truth really exists but the rest of us do and appreciate getting to it.
>They could just about afford to hit a power line near the Polish border with a kaliber but that was a year ago and a concerted campaign by General Armageddonintotrouble.
Why even lie?
no u
Vatniks don't know anything but lying and accusing people telling truth of lying.
>Ukraine is totally reliant on Western military aid right now so it's impossible to believe that the Russians don't know where these weapons are being imported and stored.
This is a weird non sequitur. How do you go from:
>Ukraine is totally reliant on Western military aid right now
And somehow come to the conclusion that, as a result of this:
>it's impossible to believe that the Russians don't know where these weapons are being imported and stored
>This is a weird non sequitur. How do you go from
>And somehow come to the conclusion that
Normally I'd say that magical thinking is an essential component of vatniks but in this case, I think OP is just an idiot or young.
It's certainly an unsupported conclusion though.
What about the quoted text doesn't make sense? These NAFO bots are really bad.
>because blowing up a cargo plane or personnel from a nato country would be a bad idea
Planes do not fly into Ukraine. Everything supplied is by road.
>Everything supplied is by road.
There's a train-line too, direct to the airbase, visiting politicians use it.
Not sure why Russia can't strike it (when NATO politicians aren't on it I mean) but apparently they don't/can't.
probably an agreement
because they did hit a shipment in january i think?
Maybe the CEP just isn't enough to hit an easily repaired rail line very often and the junctions are under air defence?
i mean why would you even target the rails instead of the thousands bridges?
They do nothing because they can do nothing.
This is the simplest answer and therefore likely the correct one. If they could, they would. But why can’t they?
It would be a death sentence and they'd lose all public credibility with anyone on the fence.
For attacking a a stash of weapon in Ukraine? Or destroying weapons recently trucked into Ukraine? That's what every country that fights a war does: destroy the adversaries weapons supply.
>From a military perspective they’ve been handed the most optimized strategical position in modern history as an invading force in an attrition war.
is that why they're managing a negative Kd on the defense?
In artillery duels the attacker has always had the advantage.
The defender only potentially catches up when the attacker actually moves troops forwards to consolidate gains and to force the opponent to commit more forces for the artillery to attack.
Well da, there is never a case of pure artillery on artillery duels, because artillery without screening infantry are sitting ducks
I imagine that Ukie state security around any of those weapons dumps is pretty tight, and the gloves are off for anyone suspected of harboring Kremlin sympathies.
And I also suspect NATO has a bunch of its personnel stationed in the vicinity so that if the Vatniks miss a little bit, they have a Lusitania situation on their hands.
Because they don't want Nato sinking North Korean and Iranian ships carrying 2nd hand Chinese knock off Russian rifles and hobbyist drones.
>Nato sinking North Korean and Iranian ships
Why would NATO sink any of those ships? NATO is only supplying weapons to Ukraine right? Ukraine isn't apart of NATO so there isn't any justification for such actions. OP is talking about when the weapons are inside of Ukraine.
>Because they don't want Nato sinking North Korean and Iranian ships
They HAVE seized some Iranian ships and transferred the seized cargo to Ukraine.
I imagine the risk of hitting Nato personel is still way to high to even attempt it which when combined with their piss pour intel and piss pour strike capabilities leads to nothing really be done about it
Same reason why the Marginot line didnt worked 83y ago.
how? what system would they use to hit a flying civilian transport aircraft? all of their SAMs are out of range.
>NAFO logic.
So why don't they do it then?
Pussies
it's shrimple, they're unable to
how
because Putin is playing Rope-A-Dope and putting on a show of massive ongoing failure ON THE BATTLEFIELD of NATO wonder waffen (and NATO support).
Russian Army can move at will against unlimited NATO funded forces, so these weapons are of no real threat.
that happens on day 666 of the conflict
They don't have enough long range missiles. Their long range missiles are also inaccurate and would be unlikely to hit their targets. Their intel is shit and they're unlikely to know ahead of time where the shipments will go. If they knew where the warehouses the weapons were stored were and had the weapons to attack them, they would. But they don't and they can't.
they need to be able to nuke moscow
let's face it that's the best shot, then at worst, moscow can only, pinky swear, nuke back kiev
everybody else escapes, north korea and china nuke themselves and iran and possibly israel, the end?
They can’t find anything that moves quickly enough to hit it except very close to the front and by blind luck.
These supply routes into Ukraine are hundreds of miles from Russia. They would have to use long range missiles. And even if they did have proper satellite surviellance to see a shipment being moved, and were able to coordinate a missile strike, and hit it, all they would be doing is blowing up what, one truck of supplies? You have a nearly impossible feat with a small reward. For a comparison, look at how many bombs the USAF dropped on the Ho Chi Minh Trail trying to stop those supplies.
Maybe they could hit a warehouse or two (if their satellites/intel worked and they hadn't wasted most of their strategic conventional missiles on civilian infrastructure)
> Why not destroy the weapons and vehicles that fuel Ukraine's fighting ability as soon as they enter Ukraine before they even get deployed or come close to the front?
Why do you think they haven’t? I think that happened multiple times already. Well maybe not at the border but deeper into Ukrainian territory for sure. It’s just not the type of news that Ukraine would report on. And that’s fine and understandable. It’s war, not marvel comics.
>It’s just not the type of news that Ukraine would report on.
But Russia would. If it were happening we'd see it.
I don’t follow russian propaganda, but time to time I see reports from them about destroyed Western equipment that hasn’t even reached frontlines. Even if it’s mostly lies or wishful thinking, some of those reports might be true.
You need to good intel and good weapons to do that. Russia lacks both.
They did it a lot at the start of the war.
Cropping your source on purpose again because you and I both know its garbage?
>but why wouldn't they hit the areas where the weapons are imported and stashed WITHIN Ukraine? This would be the ideal job for their hypersonic missiles.
1)Their satellite intel is not high resolution enough and their human intel is not there
2)They don't have a functional long distance positional system or accurate enough guidance system. Glonass is garbage.
3)Their weapons are vapourware with grossly exadgerated range and expectations of accuracy as well as inflated quantities of production and reserves
4)Ukraine has air defense including some very good western products like patriot and gepard and IRIS
5)Russia is inept, incompetent, corrupt and has poor command and the dictatorship and stagnancy supress any capable individuals
>patriot and gepard and IRIS
also nasams
Every month Ukraine gets more advanced and a greater quantity of air defense. By next year they will have IRIS-T systems that can track everything in the air for thousands of kilometres Russia probably won't be able to hit anything at all. The vast majority of Russian ordnance is shot down even now. Here's a gepard shooting down some of Irans flying lawnmower drones. The Gepard was considered obsolete by Germany and was out of service. The IRIS-T detection systems are state of the art though, as are the Patriot systems. Russia has no capacity to overmatch technology like that.
Very kewl
>why wouldn't they hit the areas where the weapons are imported and stashed WITHIN Ukraine
1.) they (usually) don't know when they're going through
2.) they (usually) don't know where they're stored
3.) the places they go through and end up being stored are under an air defense network
4.) all of these places are so far that they can only reasonably be reached by expensive PGMs launched off expensive to fly and maintain platforms at stand-off distances
5.) said PGM have CEP that is pretty meh by modern standards and not very good for precision strikes
There have been some hits here and there, but people a lot smarter than me or you have figured out ways to transport shit so it doesn't get lit up, and it seems to work for the most part.
There have been countless attacks on the factories anon.
Not even talking about all the propaganda, wildfires, migrant waves and corruption, there have been physical attempts (some of them successful) and they've been running non-stop since 2014.
>why the Russians don't even try to destroy the weapons shipments being sent to Ukraine?
If they could, they would.
But they can't, so they shan't.
judging by their antics their missiles are good enough to hit a city - hitting small logistics hub is apparently too much...
There are two possibilities: They are unable, they are unwilling.
>Western weapons will come for you
>You will do nothing because you can do nothing
because they don't know where the weapons are
it's that simple
at least this OP mentioned the word weapons. Even though this thread should be in 4chan