>You only really die once
Modern medicine makes that complicated. You can definitely flatline multiple times, braindeath is more complicated but is theoretically reversible under some specific conditions, been done in non-human test subjects anyway.
25 kills seems low for an apache gunner. In Afghanistan, they usually kill like a group of 40 occasionally.
>25 kills seems low for an apache gunner
I think maybe his tours were shorter than usual or something?
They also cut one short because media leaked his location.
Regardless, it seems pretty easy to imagine he smoked a patrol or two, just a few CAS missions could easily rack up a count like that.
Wait wait wait
So say for example we take one of those Finnish madlads who ate an entire company's worth of meth and went fucking nuts
If that dude murdered 50 vatmorons with his hands and teeth, then flatlined, got CPR'd back to life, and then died shortly after, are you saying he'd have a 50/2 KDR?
The actual point of death is pretty hard to define, we call it at brain death these days but even brain death isn't an on/off thing, the brain dies progressively, sometimes it dies in ways that can be revived.
The science I talked about involved injecting stem cells and a protein cocktail which encouraged neural regrowth, something about certain proteins could wake up cells that had shutdown, or were in the process of shutting down.
Even defining cell death is complicated, that also isn't a simple on/off thing either. It involves chemical signals that could be blocked or neutralised and cellular functions reactivated by other chemical signals.
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moron in this context death means you're out forever
In Battlefield when you get gunned down but your buddy hits you with the shock paddles/syringe and you get back up, that doesn't count as a death
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If you define death as "The thing that happens the last time you die" then sure but that's circular reasoning. Or proof by construction if you prefer.
What do you call it when you die and are revived?
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Nobody dies and gets revived lmao
You can have temporary cessations in functions like your heartbeat that get rectified
Do you think people who come back from cardiac arrest or temporary comas get death certificates?
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A coma has a pulse and measurable brain activity so you can ignore that but yeah, someone could be certified dead from cardiac arrest and come back, maybe not that common but it happens.
So at what point do you decide someone is actually dead?
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brain death. no more detectable brain signals. that's the final barrier. no one has come back from brain death. also, no one has been able to avoid it.
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>no more detectable brain signals
People have come back from that lots of times. Especially when snow and ice are involved.
I assume by "Brain signals" you refer to patterns of synaptic activation?
That's not a great indicator of final death. Neurons can be inactive, not firing and then be coaxed into firing, that's not super hard to do.
If you want something definitive then it's more interesting to look at cellular death but that's hard to measure from outside the body and even that is a process, not an event.
If you read medical literature on this, you'll come across the phrase "death is a process". It's because you don't just suddenly die, instead parts of the body begin failing, eventually the brain begins failing which accelerates the rest of the body failing.
But brain death is also just a process, albeit one with a vicious feedback loop.
And actual neuron death is a process too, which can be halted and reversed under the right conditions, in laboratory settings anyway.
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When they don't fucking get back up.
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When the soul leaves the body
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How do you measure that?
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Based
memory decomposition
Cringe
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So true
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memory decomposition
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>memory decomposition
How do you measure that?
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Why do I measure that?
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If you want to call someone dead, you need a way to know.
You want to use memory decomposition as the definitive point of death, how do you know when a corpse has reached that point?
It's a serious question, which is why memory decomposition isn't the test, it's brain stem function.
And sometimes people get up even after that and like I keep saying, death is a process and not an event and you can't really point any part of the process and say "now it's irreversible" or "this right here is dead and before it is not".
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If I see lividities, I declare someone dead. This will happen sooner or later. Knowing the precise moment is for nerds.
>You only really die once
He has already been dead since he gave up his gun collection. He's just a walking corpse now waiting for release from this cruel world.
Because he married a nog, simple as. That's the entire source of Bong butthurt about Harry.
The brits, at least the tabloids anyway, blame her for basically tearing him away from the royal family.
I don't think that they get that he used her to escape from them.
After everything with his mother, why the fuck would he want to stick around?
Stahp, have some sympathy. He's just a prime example of what will happen to all of us if we were to forsake our deer wives and find women (If they can even be called that by today's standards anymore) to settle down with.
If he suffers a heart attack, goes out and is then succesfully resuscitated, would you not say that that would count as a death with a second one pending? We can't just rule that you only die once
His tour was cut short after the US failed at keeping Bastion secure and allowed a dozen hajji to walk right through the main gate and destroy half a dozen harriers.
The captured taliban alleged that Harry was the primary target of the attack. Although how they thought they'd find him in a giant camp of 25,000 soldiers is kinda up in the air.
>usually kill like a group of 40 occasionally.
That's only that one video which is widely seen because it's so crazy. The Taliban rarely operated in groups that large so it's going to be primarily 1-3 kills at a time.
Why are people so buttflustered about Harry revealing this? I've read a million sobstories about the uncle who was at Omaha, and Okinawa, and Dieppe, and who led the charge into Berlin, but who would never ever talk about this! Something about respect for the people you killed? I don't get it.
I feel like people want to keep on pretending apaches are made to deliver pizzas and that soldiers just do hiking and sightseeing there.
As much as I fucking hate sand morons and wish I could bliterate 25+ of them with an attack helo, what he was doing was closer to a videogame than Okinawa so it's kind of gauche to bring it up and then cry about how he was told to dehumanize his targets, my guy.
>cry about how he was told to dehumanize his targets
That made me laugh, like a royal needs to be told to dehumanise commoners.
He's adopted veterans as his cause though, which is strategically smart if nothing else, and apparently it's about empathising with veterans traumatised by guilt etc.
I don't know about that but it really didn't seem a particularly shocking thing in the quotes I read.
I don't think he cried about having to dehumanize them, rather he just says that he did. Because how else are you going to push the button to kill them, as your duty demands? A lot of people actually got buttflustered about the chess pieces thing specifically, but he has to think that way otherwise he either can't do his job or he goes completely bananas after one flight.
>Why are people so buttflustered about Harry revealing this?
I think they're probably not really but a famous person says something a bit controversial (yeah, I've killed a whole bunch of people, I don't feel great about it but they were bad guys and its war) and they say controversial things about it too and temporarily become nearly as famous as him.
I think you'll find most of these people have books or blogs or something.
Nah we're all just tired of hearing about him. Cunt says he hates the media, doesn't want to be in the public image etc yet constantly attention whores and puts himself in the spotlight. He' a grifter playing on American identity politics.
I'm just absolutely convinced he's a retard and active detriment to everything around him, especially himself.
Let's look at the scorecard, and keep in mind both these lads could have married just about any woman on the face of the planet because not only does anyone who marries them become a literal princess but they're also military lads.
Will's wife: >Absolute 10/10 >Basically impeccable background, just aristocratic enough to fit in with the royals but common enough to relate to people >Becomes the spiritual successor of Diana >Captivates the world >Massively raises Will's stock as monarch to the point many were calling for Charles to abdicate his claim and pass it straight to Will & Kate >Gives him a clutch of aryan babbies >Married at 29, ageing like the finest artisanal French wine
Now Harry's wife: >Mystery meat amerimutt >7/10 at her prime and she was past it when he married her >Nearly 40 when he married her and is increasingly cemented over with makeup to hide her ageing >Slutted it up on camera and has leaked nudes >Barely managed to give him two mutt babies >Loathed by her own family >Alienates Harry's family >Becomes hated by the nation >Drives him to become a pariah living off degrading tabloid gossip books and interviews which have ensured he can never go back
I'm pretty sure future biographers will find evidence that Diana drank during Harry's pregnancy.
My understanding is he was initially in pilot training but washed out and redesignated to gunner because I guess for Bongs both crewmen aren't pilots like in the US.
Who gives a shit this guy is a total cuck loser who betrayed his race and nation. His service doesn't excuse what he did just like that one-eyed gay Dan Crenshaw.
Nah we're all just tired of hearing about him. Cunt says he hates the media, doesn't want to be in the public image etc yet constantly attention whores and puts himself in the spotlight. He' a grifter playing on American identity politics.
So how did this prince wind up w/ a mulatto roastie when he literally had his pick of the top-tier British punani? Explain yourselves, bongs.
As an aside, realize that his current exploits are managed by Netflix and likely orchestrated by 0bama. Remember that 0bama has a seething hatred of Britain - upon arrival at the White House he immediately tossed the bust of Winston Churchill into storage.
If he was an actual Nazi it might be a more interesting story.
Unfortunately, it's just him being an insufferable attention-seeking manchild.
He's got the mental process of a "rebellious" art hoe trust fund baby.
I don't know why people are saying Meghan Markle is ugly. She's objectively not. She's got so much white admixture in her I didn't even realise she was black the first time I saw her, although makeup probably helped a lot.
I also wanked off just fine over her leaked nudes. Multiple times.
>I don't know why people are saying Meghan Markle is ugly
It's literally just racism.
I know that's a meme but there's really no other reason than them thinking that the racial bloodline should be preserved or something. Even though the royal family are basically greek-germans or something.
It's just seething wankers looking for an excuse. Her mother looks mixed so Meghan's basically like 3/4 white. Problem is she wanted to play the race card so racists took the bait even the most of them probably didn't not she was part-black before hand.
why do you keep posting this?
i missed all the previous threads.
25 / 0 is infinite (undefined), until he dies he has killed infinitely more people for every of his death
this, until he murder suicides his blackie and himself you cannot really use the term kdr
You only really die once so we can establish that he already has one death(pending)
>You only really die once
Modern medicine makes that complicated. You can definitely flatline multiple times, braindeath is more complicated but is theoretically reversible under some specific conditions, been done in non-human test subjects anyway.
>25 kills seems low for an apache gunner
I think maybe his tours were shorter than usual or something?
They also cut one short because media leaked his location.
Regardless, it seems pretty easy to imagine he smoked a patrol or two, just a few CAS missions could easily rack up a count like that.
Wait wait wait
So say for example we take one of those Finnish madlads who ate an entire company's worth of meth and went fucking nuts
If that dude murdered 50 vatmorons with his hands and teeth, then flatlined, got CPR'd back to life, and then died shortly after, are you saying he'd have a 50/2 KDR?
I mean yeah, the math checks out doesn't it?
The actual point of death is pretty hard to define, we call it at brain death these days but even brain death isn't an on/off thing, the brain dies progressively, sometimes it dies in ways that can be revived.
The science I talked about involved injecting stem cells and a protein cocktail which encouraged neural regrowth, something about certain proteins could wake up cells that had shutdown, or were in the process of shutting down.
Even defining cell death is complicated, that also isn't a simple on/off thing either. It involves chemical signals that could be blocked or neutralised and cellular functions reactivated by other chemical signals.
moron in this context death means you're out forever
In Battlefield when you get gunned down but your buddy hits you with the shock paddles/syringe and you get back up, that doesn't count as a death
If you define death as "The thing that happens the last time you die" then sure but that's circular reasoning. Or proof by construction if you prefer.
What do you call it when you die and are revived?
Nobody dies and gets revived lmao
You can have temporary cessations in functions like your heartbeat that get rectified
Do you think people who come back from cardiac arrest or temporary comas get death certificates?
A coma has a pulse and measurable brain activity so you can ignore that but yeah, someone could be certified dead from cardiac arrest and come back, maybe not that common but it happens.
>50/2 KDR
That's an improper fraction. The KDR would still be 25 if he had 50 kills and 2 deaths.
If you can be revived by medicinal science you weren’t actually dead, simple as
So at what point do you decide someone is actually dead?
brain death. no more detectable brain signals. that's the final barrier. no one has come back from brain death. also, no one has been able to avoid it.
>no more detectable brain signals
People have come back from that lots of times. Especially when snow and ice are involved.
I assume by "Brain signals" you refer to patterns of synaptic activation?
That's not a great indicator of final death. Neurons can be inactive, not firing and then be coaxed into firing, that's not super hard to do.
If you want something definitive then it's more interesting to look at cellular death but that's hard to measure from outside the body and even that is a process, not an event.
If you read medical literature on this, you'll come across the phrase "death is a process". It's because you don't just suddenly die, instead parts of the body begin failing, eventually the brain begins failing which accelerates the rest of the body failing.
But brain death is also just a process, albeit one with a vicious feedback loop.
And actual neuron death is a process too, which can be halted and reversed under the right conditions, in laboratory settings anyway.
When they don't fucking get back up.
When the soul leaves the body
How do you measure that?
Based
Cringe
So true
memory decomposition
>memory decomposition
How do you measure that?
Why do I measure that?
If you want to call someone dead, you need a way to know.
You want to use memory decomposition as the definitive point of death, how do you know when a corpse has reached that point?
It's a serious question, which is why memory decomposition isn't the test, it's brain stem function.
And sometimes people get up even after that and like I keep saying, death is a process and not an event and you can't really point any part of the process and say "now it's irreversible" or "this right here is dead and before it is not".
If I see lividities, I declare someone dead. This will happen sooner or later. Knowing the precise moment is for nerds.
When they actually die
>You only really die once
He has already been dead since he gave up his gun collection. He's just a walking corpse now waiting for release from this cruel world.
The brits, at least the tabloids anyway, blame her for basically tearing him away from the royal family.
I don't think that they get that he used her to escape from them.
After everything with his mother, why the fuck would he want to stick around?
>forced him to sell all his guns
Was it really worth it?
>why the fuck would he want to stick around?
Even if Charles is not his father, William is still the only brother he has and vice versa.
>I don't think that they get that he used her to escape from them
>NOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE BORN INTO WEALTH AND PRIVILEGE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He has wealth, privilege and now also gets to live on his own terms, more or less.
He's not giving up very much, he's still absurdly rich.
>giving all your guns up for dicky
I couldn't do it, tbh. I'll bet she has dark beefy curtains too.
lmao
don't post this whiny gay on PrepHole ever again
Stahp, have some sympathy. He's just a prime example of what will happen to all of us if we were to forsake our deer wives and find women (If they can even be called that by today's standards anymore) to settle down with.
she looks like melting plastic
>You only really die once
thats a bold assumption
If he suffers a heart attack, goes out and is then succesfully resuscitated, would you not say that that would count as a death with a second one pending? We can't just rule that you only die once
No, it wouldn't count. That's just a revive.
>That's just a revive
Then define death.
He's an apache gunner so yeah he probably dropped a few hellfires on some guys. 25, who knows.
he's a ginger and an oil driller and his mom got Arab dick in her blonde pussy
25 kills seems low for an apache gunner. In Afghanistan, they usually kill like a group of 40 occasionally.
His tour was cut short after the US failed at keeping Bastion secure and allowed a dozen hajji to walk right through the main gate and destroy half a dozen harriers.
The captured taliban alleged that Harry was the primary target of the attack. Although how they thought they'd find him in a giant camp of 25,000 soldiers is kinda up in the air.
>usually kill like a group of 40 occasionally.
That's only that one video which is widely seen because it's so crazy. The Taliban rarely operated in groups that large so it's going to be primarily 1-3 kills at a time.
Anything that runs is a Taliban. Anything that stands still is a well-disciplined Taliban.
>one video
They don't have to release videos for every operation.
Everything about him is fake.
Its not all that impossible for him to have killed 25 dudes as a helicopter gunner.
Why are people so buttflustered about Harry revealing this? I've read a million sobstories about the uncle who was at Omaha, and Okinawa, and Dieppe, and who led the charge into Berlin, but who would never ever talk about this! Something about respect for the people you killed? I don't get it.
I feel like people want to keep on pretending apaches are made to deliver pizzas and that soldiers just do hiking and sightseeing there.
As much as I fucking hate sand morons and wish I could bliterate 25+ of them with an attack helo, what he was doing was closer to a videogame than Okinawa so it's kind of gauche to bring it up and then cry about how he was told to dehumanize his targets, my guy.
>cry about how he was told to dehumanize his targets
That made me laugh, like a royal needs to be told to dehumanise commoners.
He's adopted veterans as his cause though, which is strategically smart if nothing else, and apparently it's about empathising with veterans traumatised by guilt etc.
I don't know about that but it really didn't seem a particularly shocking thing in the quotes I read.
I don't think he cried about having to dehumanize them, rather he just says that he did. Because how else are you going to push the button to kill them, as your duty demands? A lot of people actually got buttflustered about the chess pieces thing specifically, but he has to think that way otherwise he either can't do his job or he goes completely bananas after one flight.
>Why are people so buttflustered about Harry revealing this?
I think they're probably not really but a famous person says something a bit controversial (yeah, I've killed a whole bunch of people, I don't feel great about it but they were bad guys and its war) and they say controversial things about it too and temporarily become nearly as famous as him.
I think you'll find most of these people have books or blogs or something.
Because he married a nog, simple as. That's the entire source of Bong butthurt about Harry.
Nah we're all just tired of hearing about him. Cunt says he hates the media, doesn't want to be in the public image etc yet constantly attention whores and puts himself in the spotlight. He' a grifter playing on American identity politics.
I'm just absolutely convinced he's a retard and active detriment to everything around him, especially himself.
Let's look at the scorecard, and keep in mind both these lads could have married just about any woman on the face of the planet because not only does anyone who marries them become a literal princess but they're also military lads.
Will's wife:
>Absolute 10/10
>Basically impeccable background, just aristocratic enough to fit in with the royals but common enough to relate to people
>Becomes the spiritual successor of Diana
>Captivates the world
>Massively raises Will's stock as monarch to the point many were calling for Charles to abdicate his claim and pass it straight to Will & Kate
>Gives him a clutch of aryan babbies
>Married at 29, ageing like the finest artisanal French wine
Now Harry's wife:
>Mystery meat amerimutt
>7/10 at her prime and she was past it when he married her
>Nearly 40 when he married her and is increasingly cemented over with makeup to hide her ageing
>Slutted it up on camera and has leaked nudes
>Barely managed to give him two mutt babies
>Loathed by her own family
>Alienates Harry's family
>Becomes hated by the nation
>Drives him to become a pariah living off degrading tabloid gossip books and interviews which have ensured he can never go back
I'm pretty sure future biographers will find evidence that Diana drank during Harry's pregnancy.
Because it's not very woke of him.
how hard its to become gunner in heli?
It's exhausting as fuck from what I've heard.
This nibba thinks seals literally sang for his wife because she was pregnant. He's an idiot
If he isn't dead then his kd isn't set. And as a helicopter pilot that seems pretty reasonable.
>If he isn't dead then his kd isn't set.
it can only go up higher.
For a gunship pilot that really isnt that impressive
They probably only let him fly easy missions where the chance of him getting shot much less shot down are nil.
I wonder if he's really mates with his pilot alongside other Apache pilots and gunners.
My understanding is he was initially in pilot training but washed out and redesignated to gunner because I guess for Bongs both crewmen aren't pilots like in the US.
25/0 is undefined.
25 friendlies I would believe
briddy sus given there is probably an entire platoon baby sitting him in particular
Legit, thats just a busy night for an apache, not a busy deployment
T not a jtac
Fake. He wouldnt brag about it publicly if it were true.
he spawned with helo killstreak, totes doable
Who gives a shit this guy is a total cuck loser who betrayed his race and nation. His service doesn't excuse what he did just like that one-eyed gay Dan Crenshaw.
So how did this prince wind up w/ a mulatto roastie when he literally had his pick of the top-tier British punani? Explain yourselves, bongs.
As an aside, realize that his current exploits are managed by Netflix and likely orchestrated by 0bama. Remember that 0bama has a seething hatred of Britain - upon arrival at the White House he immediately tossed the bust of Winston Churchill into storage.
>Be medieval peasant levy in 1312
>Get merked by a mounted English prince
>Be modern day goatfucker in 2003
>Get merked by a mounted English prince
As an Apache gunner I believe it, you are playing god against sand people that have nothing that can touch you.
Are they really all "his" kills if an Apache is crew operated? Shouldn't it be 12.5 for him and 12.5 for the pilot?
Shit, by that measure a C-130 pilot's KDR would be in the thousands.
I wonder what PrepHole thinks about the time he dressed up as a Nazi.
If he was an actual Nazi it might be a more interesting story.
Unfortunately, it's just him being an insufferable attention-seeking manchild.
He's got the mental process of a "rebellious" art hoe trust fund baby.
I don't know why people are saying Meghan Markle is ugly. She's objectively not. She's got so much white admixture in her I didn't even realise she was black the first time I saw her, although makeup probably helped a lot.
I also wanked off just fine over her leaked nudes. Multiple times.
>I don't know why people are saying Meghan Markle is ugly
It's literally just racism.
I know that's a meme but there's really no other reason than them thinking that the racial bloodline should be preserved or something. Even though the royal family are basically greek-germans or something.
the last royal family of greece wasa transplanted german one.
It's just seething wankers looking for an excuse. Her mother looks mixed so Meghan's basically like 3/4 white. Problem is she wanted to play the race card so racists took the bait even the most of them probably didn't not she was part-black before hand.
he's never died so D = 0. 25 / 0 /= 25
>Divided by zero
Hwhat
Oh no.
Everybody dies in the end. It's just a longer match. Assuming Harry isn't murdering people in the mean streets of America his ratio is 25:1
>Everybody dies in the end
But with modern medicine...how many times might he die?
Did he have nuke killstreak on?
>has a 25 KDR
Just a Pay2win shitter bragging about popping noobs with rusty rifles in his 40mil helicopter.