Hammer or Striker? Which do you prefer and why?

Hammer or Striker? Which do you prefer and why?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer, because I like to carry on DA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Striker im poor btw.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer Glock

    I actually shoot people btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pig?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer. Main reason has little to do with the operation, just that it is difficult to find metal framed guns that are striker fired but way easier to find them with a hammer. Plus hammer fired guns just simply look nicer. I also do like a nice single action trigger.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Hammer vs. striker" is not even a meaningful debate to have. There are striker-fired pistols designed as DA/SA, like the Walther P99, and there are hammer-fired pistols designed to have a consistent trigger pull that's both light/crisp and safe to carry, such as the HK LEM trigger.

      If you're asking something like "Glock 17 or Beretta 92," like in your picture, that's probably going to get you a conversation you'll find more interesting, but in either case, I think you should frame your question with specific questions.

      In this case, this person's preference is really about aesthetics and frame material. If he found a handgun with a metal frame and good aesthetics, he'd likely enjoy owning it. For example, the FN 1910 or the Colt 1908 Vest Pocket.

      im accurate with Glocks. I can't anticipate recoil because of shitty trigger thus no flinching.

      This person prefers hammer-fired pistols because he has a flinch. What a quality contribution, lol.

      Carried both kinds. Both had no safety (Glock 30 and Astra A-75) and I suppose if I had to choose one over the other I like the Astra(hammer boi) because it just feels cool. That's my bullshit reasoning.

      >because it just feels cool
      Really gets the noggin joggin.

      Strikers always have mediocre triggers.

      Hammers can be ultra good, as found on precision rifles and race pistols, to being pretty good, like on SAO and DA/SA handguns, to bad and obnoxiously heavy, like on DAO revolvers.

      Overall, hammers > strikers.

      This person used paragraphs, as if he's writing an essay. His supporting evidence is just his bullshit opinions.

      Hammer
      >can ride hammer for peace of mind when holstering
      >if DA can hit again for second strike
      >but dirt can get in hammer channel

      Then again
      >don't be stupid when holstering
      >how often do you have that malf?
      >you aren't gonna get dirt there on accident

      >>if DA can hit again for second strike
      This is how you spot someone who doesn't carry. Nobody with a brain trains to pull the trigger a second time on a malfunction, no matter what gun you have. Always tap-rack-bang because it's impossible to diagnose a given malfunction as a light primer striker (and one that will fire on second trigger pull) faster than you can tap-rack-bang.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody cares you mass replying gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not "mass replying," you idiot newfag.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >unless it's a revolver because then you get a whole new cartridge on the next trigger pull
        Take that atheists.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im accurate with Glocks. I can't anticipate recoil because of shitty trigger thus no flinching.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer is absolutely superior.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      s

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer it soothes my monke brain

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When she's a ham-her, I like to strike-her

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Striker is objectively superior.
    Hammer can be nice in a proper SAO, but DA/SA are an abortion

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i got bof a dem shits. couple my glocks wit da hamma , some dem jus got it in da inside

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carried both kinds. Both had no safety (Glock 30 and Astra A-75) and I suppose if I had to choose one over the other I like the Astra(hammer boi) because it just feels cool. That's my bullshit reasoning.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Astra
      Hello fellow poor!
      Astra a100 was my first pistol. Chunky bitch made me into the da/sa loving gay I am today.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i prefer striker in revolvers and hammer in pistols

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Striker is superior and it sucks because the steel/alloy framed hammer fired pistols both look and feel better, and have infinitely more SOVL

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammers make me feel like I have a real gun. Strikers make me feel like I have a toy.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i only buy berettas and 1911s so hammer

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer cause I'm a monkey and hear a loud smack when I dry fire is fun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also the sound of the hammer clicking when you pull it back is sexy

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer. DA/SA or SA.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've literally never shot a 10mm with a hammer how is it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty fucking nice.
        >P220 SAO 10mm

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like it. Shoots pretty study actually

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Great.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Amazing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At first glance I thought your baretta was fugly but the more I look at it....I think I really love it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Berettas aren't hard on the eyes. They're up there with 1911s and CZs in the list of sexy handguns. They're big hunks of metal though, way too excessively huge imo. Like the Dodge Ram of guns. That slide mounted safety/decocker will also always bug me. They have a version with a normal safety that they only ever release on certain super expensive models, so fuck them for that. Killing their own sales anyway, that positioning bugs a lot of people.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The wood grips look really good. The accessory rail just looks out of place to me I think I've decided on. Still pretty. I have a jericho 941 with the safety/decocker on the slide and it bothers me to no end. Good thing I also got an Isreali army surplus with the slide safety....also looks pretty with wood grips.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The wood grips look really good. The accessory rail just looks out of place to me I think I've decided on. Still pretty. I have a jericho 941 with the safety/decocker on the slide and it bothers me to no end. Good thing I also got an Isreali army surplus with the slide safety....also looks pretty with wood grips.

          frame safety

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammers generally have MUCH better triggers out of the box, with the vast majority of strikers you are going to need an aftermarket upgrade to get them on par.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am a hammer fan myself but god damn picking up my dads canik made me question why I carry metal frame guns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Light guns are certainly eaiser to carry and handle but over the years I've come to find heavy guns are much funner to actually shoot.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You spend much more time carrying than actually shooting your gun tho

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True, assuming the gun in question is a carry peice and not a home defender or range toy but honestly the differences in weight ought to be negligible with a good holster. I regularly cc a double stack 45 and the weight bothers me much less than the sheer bulk.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I tested a Canik TP9 last month. Flat shooting but I found the trigger pull too long.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the bell curve of shooters goes hammer, striker, then back to hammer.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hamster

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Internal hammer ftw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meine freunde

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sind homosexual.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Strikers always have mediocre triggers.

    Hammers can be ultra good, as found on precision rifles and race pistols, to being pretty good, like on SAO and DA/SA handguns, to bad and obnoxiously heavy, like on DAO revolvers.

    Overall, hammers > strikers.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer
    >can ride hammer for peace of mind when holstering
    >if DA can hit again for second strike
    >but dirt can get in hammer channel

    Then again
    >don't be stupid when holstering
    >how often do you have that malf?
    >you aren't gonna get dirt there on accident

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammerless.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HUUUUURRRRRRER HAMMA ORE STIKER????
    A striker is just a linear hammer. Using it as a synonym for glock style actions is fucking lazy.
    >inb4 NUH UH, STIKER HAS FIRING PIN ATTACHESED
    By that logic a Colt SAA is striker fired. Just shut up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These terms are accepted by an overwhelming majority of the industry including the manufacturers. Pedantic fucking cock sucking ball worshipping gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Try visiting your local gun store and asking for a linear hammer fired pistol lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Hammer vs. striker" is not even a meaningful debate to have. There are striker-fired pistols designed as DA/SA, like the Walther P99, and there are hammer-fired pistols designed to have a consistent trigger pull that's both light/crisp and safe to carry, such as the HK LEM trigger.

      If you're asking something like "Glock 17 or Beretta 92," like in your picture, that's probably going to get you a conversation you'll find more interesting, but in either case, I think you should frame your question with specific questions.

      In this case, this person's preference is really about aesthetics and frame material. If he found a handgun with a metal frame and good aesthetics, he'd likely enjoy owning it. For example, the FN 1910 or the Colt 1908 Vest Pocket.

      [...]
      This person prefers hammer-fired pistols because he has a flinch. What a quality contribution, lol.

      [...]
      >because it just feels cool
      Really gets the noggin joggin.

      [...]
      This person used paragraphs, as if he's writing an essay. His supporting evidence is just his bullshit opinions.

      [...]
      >>if DA can hit again for second strike
      This is how you spot someone who doesn't carry. Nobody with a brain trains to pull the trigger a second time on a malfunction, no matter what gun you have. Always tap-rack-bang because it's impossible to diagnose a given malfunction as a light primer striker (and one that will fire on second trigger pull) faster than you can tap-rack-bang.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you know what OP means ya snobby cunt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so you see m’lady, a striker is actually just a linear hammer

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer
    A nice firm solid hard hammer,
    I'm trans btw if that matters?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Between my housemate and myself we've owned dozens of hand guns. The only ones that have given us any mechanical trouble have been striker fired. So yeah, I have sworn off of striker fired shit forever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's no way any of you have shot a 1911 enough then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >

        Between my housemate and myself we've owned dozens of hand guns. The only ones that have given us any mechanical trouble have been striker fired. So yeah, I have sworn off of striker fired shit forever.


        >There's no way any of you have shot a 1911 enough then.

        Tell me you don't know shit without telling me you don't know shit.

        He carries a Ruger 1911. I own a Sig Nightmare (used at that). We're both at the range every week. Both guns have proven themselves to be stupendously reliable. 1911's being unreliable or jamomatics or whathaveyou is some kind of psyop or idiot lore.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer. I like how the double action acts as a pull through soft safety and I think a nice, crisp, short single action is great for accurate and fast follow up shots.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer gang

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And another. I just like the way the single action feels, particularly on the Sigs.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LEM

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weird that they have a cutout for everything except the mag release.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LEM seems like it's really overthinking this DA/SA. I never understood why people think needing to get through a double action trigger for one shot is an insane hurdle. The reset after every shot is always the same so you only have to learn one reset. But I train with revolvers, so I guess it's because I actually know how to shoot properly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't understand your objection. The reset is the same for LEM too. If you like the single action pull of DA/SA, then wouldn't you like LEM? If the take-up is too long, refer to your comment on "I never understood why people think needing to get through a double action trigger for one shot is an insane hurdle."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > I never understood why people think needing to get through a double action trigger for one shot is an insane hurdle
        I see you've never finger fucked a USP.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lem is actually a DAO

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's more akin to the triple action of like a Lionheart LH9. The single action is missing, but there's a DA and half cock. Really though you'd never use the DA since the hammer is internal, you'd have the gun cocked and only use DA for a second strike.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man i am just trying to justify a p30l lem thats my next purchase i think, then im sure ill finally have enough 9mm handguns

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should invest in some training.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer fired triggers are 10000000x better than striker fucking shits

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glock Striker. Both for retard proof training and reliability, but hammer fired for pure shootabilty.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We all know hammers are superior, the real question is DA/SA or SA only?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DA/SA for street practicality, SA if maximum controlled precision is your goal.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only use hammer guns because the hammer represents the way I hammer pussy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bringe

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Striker fired is IMO more reliable. Hammer fired have better triggers and aesthetics.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer because of the intrinsic degrees of control of safety vs precision, and the general lighter trigger pulls from SA.
    I also find them overwhelmingly more aesthetically pleasing, and the action of cocking or lowering a hammer, especially on old revolvers, is one of the most simply enjoyable actions in the world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice!

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer v3 HK variant. Best design, best safety, best decocker

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer a hammer.

    I still have a glock 43x for CCW, but my Beretta M9, CZ 75 and Colt 1911 get more loving from me at the range.

    If I could open carry like move to Arizona, or at least half ass CCW with an OWB holster, then I'd carry my Beretta more.

    I was thinking about getting a beretta Tomcat Inox as a meme, but with the ammo market as it is, it might actually be a challenge to shoot.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammer because i hate combat tupperware, and prefer DA/SA. Glocks and their clones just seem cheaply made. Glock design vs cz75 design, i just feel like the cz is better engineered, or like a more inspired engineered design. Glock seems like they were all "how can we make the cheapest gun with fewest parts go bang."

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Striker fired for anything that is intended to save my life, but hammer fired bc they make my pp hard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hammer fired is literally more reliable. The most reliable guns out there on the market are all hammer fired. The only reason I can think this sentiment holds any weight (no pun intended) is because striker fired guns tend to be lightweight polymer pistols that are easy to carry compared to most metal frames DA/SA pistols. I split the difference and get best of both worlds with a USPc9

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mechanically speaking, is there something that would make a striker fired gun inherently more or less reliable than hammer fired? Only thing that comes to mind for me is that in a hammer fired design you have leverage working on your favor for cocking the hammer, and probably more weight and travel which could mean a less stiff spring is necessary to get an adequate primer strike
        On the other hand, a striker doesn’t require an additional moving part for the firing pin, and id imagine it’s borderline impossible to have a striker fired gun slamfire

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Strikers are always less reliable than hammers. This is not an opinion, unless it's a shitty hammer fire vs a great striker fire or something, that's the case. If you put a pencil in your barrel and fire so the pin hits the eraser, a striker will barely move it, a hammer will shoot it fairly far. It will at least clear the barrel. With hammer you also have second strike if the initial strike doesn't ignite the primer, which is more likely to happen with a striker. So striker you get a dead trigger, hammer you get a heavy DA trigger to let you know the round is fucked if that's the case. Strikers can have a second strike but the manufacturers typically don't bother engineering such a simple thing, and then they tell you it's a feature. It's a FEATURE to not have a second strike, it's a FEATURE to not have a slide release, it's a FEATURE to not have metal. Yeah sure, only stupid people fall for this stuff. Strikers were cheap outs to begin with. The lower bore axis is nice though, that's about it. Oh, and water or fouling getting in the striker channel kills your gun. Hammers are better for use while wet, fully submerged, or excessively fouled use.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DA/SA hammer, safer to carry with one in the pipe, single action is dank, and all the hammer da/sa guns are old enough that they've got cool vibes, but new enough to be double stack and higher capacity

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer DA/SA or SAO. They just feel better. Strikers are serviceable, but don't feel as good. Though I must admit that all the strikers I've ever handled were plastic turds so my opinion may improve should I ever come across a metal frame one with a metal trigger.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THE ONLY REAL GUN IS A WHEEL GUN

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hammers hit the round harder, and have double strike capability. The triggers are more predictable and typically much better right out of the box. I hate DA/SA but that's just me, many like it and like that it makes a gun without a safety actually quite safe. I prefer DAO with modifications to make the trigger light, SAO also exists but you have to manually cock the hammer for your first shot. Completely pointless since you could do that with a DA/SA by just always cocking the hammer.

    Strikers can have a lower bore axis and consistent triggers. They're more prone to light strikes, striker channels can get filled with water and debris and fail more often. You lose second strike capability, and you should probably have a manual safety so you can safely holster since you can't thumb the hammer while holstering. Basically if you want a cheaper gun, striker is better. If you want a higher quality and more reliable system, hammer is better.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer revolvers, so hammer. But now you've got me curious if it's feasible to make a "hammerless" revolver that actually is hammerless and uses a striker instead. And if it would offer any advantages. Probably not.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Striker pretty much offers no benefits except lower bore axis and consistent trigger since a hammer doesn't need to be cocked. For a revolver bore axis isn't a big issue and they're usually DAO or SAO. "Hammerless" are obviously always DAO.

      One od the best systems I think are DA/SA strikers. Taurus and I think Canik did some like this. When not cocked, you have a DA pull that pulls the striker back and when cocked a lighter SA pull. This gives you second strike capability, but you still have the lower bore axis. So few companies bother to do it and they're not very reputable companies, so we're stuck with hammers if you want second strike ability. There's systems like the HK LEM which gives you a half cock SA and DA, so you basically have a DAO without a long heavy trigger, and retain the reliable strike of a hammer with second strike ability, but damn is that bore axis high.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lower bore axis
        You've actually got me more interested in the idea now. The whole thing behind the rhino was that a lower bore axis helps with muzzle flip and felt recoil, which are very important with hotter revolver loads. I haven't shot one, but I've heard the trigger is pretty meh and very complicated aside, though there is something to the idea.

        Definitely got me thinking now. Could make a lower bore revolver and make it actually striker fired if possible. Make a cool cyberpunk looking race gun version and a snub nose and a snubnose for conceal carry and self defense marketed towards people that aren't really into guns. Since you can put almost all the working components into the grip in a revolver, it could be really small and light too. Like an S&W airweight, but actually fun to shoot.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If bottom chamber bore revolvers were better they would be staple in revolver competitions. But they're not, so clearly it's a meme.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty shitty logic there. Low bore axis is helpful for race guns. That's why shit like the Alien exists.

            Only like a single digit number of bottom chamber revolvers even exist. The Rhino is literally the only one that is realistically commercially available, and it has a host of problems like the shitty trigger, very complicated internals, that barrel seam that people absolutely hate, and there was a minor fracas with an RFID chip conspiracy hurting them too. Revolvers are already niche and competition revolvers even moreso. It's one thing when you're Smith and Wesson and you can just modify your existing revolvers to sell as race guns. So few exist because you would have to design an entirely new gun from the ground up and that's simply not profitable for revolvers right now.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >That's why shit like the Alien exists.
              The Alien exists primarily because engineers wanted to see if they could do it.

              Hammer fired is literally more reliable. The most reliable guns out there on the market are all hammer fired. The only reason I can think this sentiment holds any weight (no pun intended) is because striker fired guns tend to be lightweight polymer pistols that are easy to carry compared to most metal frames DA/SA pistols. I split the difference and get best of both worlds with a USPc9

              >Hammer fired is literally more reliable.
              How do you figure? I am on team hammer but reliability comes down to
              >trip sear via trigger action bar which will
              >a. release hammer to fall on firing pin or...
              >b. release striker to spring forward with...
              >...enough force to ignite primer
              If anything hammers get to be less reliable because an open hammer can have debris stuck in there to interfere with it. Strikers are closed off and can be less susceptible unless something gets in the channel, then you're probably more fucked there than you are with a hammer.

              Mechanically speaking, is there something that would make a striker fired gun inherently more or less reliable than hammer fired? Only thing that comes to mind for me is that in a hammer fired design you have leverage working on your favor for cocking the hammer, and probably more weight and travel which could mean a less stiff spring is necessary to get an adequate primer strike
              On the other hand, a striker doesn’t require an additional moving part for the firing pin, and id imagine it’s borderline impossible to have a striker fired gun slamfire

              >slamfire
              Huh? Lost you there. Slamfire is when the sear is tripped as soon as the action is back into battery due to lack of a disconnector.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To my understanding, a slam fire can occur on hammer fired guns if the firing pin either gets stuck in the forward position or gets sent forward due to inertia when the bolt locks into battery. It figure on a striker fired design this would be borderline impossible since the seat would interface with the firing pin directly through the striker, but in a hammer fired gun the firing pin and hammer are separate components, and an additional safety needs to be in place to prevent the firing pin from connecting prematurely

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When you put it that way... Perhaps you're right. But I came to the conclusion because the HK USPs are the most proven and torture tested pistols on the market. Berettas (92 series) have accidentally proven themselves to be extremely reliable pistols, probably right behind the USPs (I'm sure the open slide has a lot to do with it though). And these things I've read have mirrored my own real world experiences. My Glocks have had more malfunctions than my Hammer fired pistols. Granted I've only shot Glocks for striker fired, but memes aside from Glock haters, the Glock is one of the most reliable guns in the world. I used it for years in competition and carry before moving onto hammer fired. I'd trust a Glock to save my life any day of the week, but the hammer fired pistols just seem to be more solid.

                I think it might be due to manufacturer quality. But if that's the case, then why is the VP9 nowhere near as reliable as it's hammer fired cousins?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the Glock is one of the most reliable guns in the world.
                If you believe this you're misinformed, simple as. I guess those limpwrist malfunctions are a FEATURE right? You know why that happens? Glock, being the cheapass company they are, in order to make a seemingly reliable pistol, put extremely weak recoil springs in their gun so it would work better when fouled, and super strong striker springs so it would push through water and fouling in the striker channel. This means your gun is extremely prone to limpwrist and other general malfunctions, and your firing pin wears sooner.

                Hundreds of bodycam videos of then failing when they needed to be saving their user's life, so don't try to deny or cope about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one that's misinformed. Any competitive shooter who actually uses and shoots guns knows more than you, any other zogbot, or LARPER combined, regarding what gun constitutes as reliable or not. The truth is Glocks are heavily favored by competitive shooters (if they're interested in going polymer framed and/or striker fired that is) shooters who put more rounds a month down the range than any cop or spec op retard you jerk off to does in their entire career. Glocks have earned a reputation for being extremely reliable among an small but elite group of people that CAN shoot.

                The Glock being hated on because a few low I.Q. zogbots can't shoot, is reminiscent of how the Beretta was hated on for years because of retards repeating hearsay or cherry picking stats... Cops are retards who carry their gun for YEARS in their holster without cleaning it or even firing it. Slowly building up lint, dirt, and crud in their holsters and every crevice of their pistol, who then have a malfunction due to their horrible lack of training and non-existent cleaning/service regime. None of that sways me against using Glocks. Guns that have personally served me well for carry and competition without any hiccups for years. That being said in my original post I said hammer fired is better and more reliable and yet you STILL go offended. Which shows you're a low I.Q. chronic regurgitator brand whore lover/hater.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's poorfag cope. Yeah some shooting competition participants are running their garbage bin Glocks. But riddle me this poorboi, have you ever shot an HK?

                >Cops are retards who carry their gun for YEARS in their holster without cleaning it or even firing it
                This is literally 99% of civilian gun owners and maybe 2% of cops who can get away with not going to training or qualifications somehow. Who are you making fun of here when you just insulted the majority of the board?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's definitely possible, just strikers are newer technology that was never applied to revolvers since most handguns being developed now are semiauto. The cylinder would no doubt need to be further forward unless you did something weird sticking out the back.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The cylinder would no doubt need to be further forward unless you did something weird sticking out the back.
            Now I'm certainly no engineer, but I'm not sure if it would. Here's just the first google result I got for revolver cutaway. If you get rid of the hammer, there's a lot of space there. Most of a firing pin's length in a pistol is just the physical need of reaching past the magazine. You could probably actually move everything back if I'm picturing this right in my mind. It might even make it simpler since then the trigger would be close enough to interact directly with the striker instead of needing a transfer bar. I kind of wish I was an engineer now, I think there's something here.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Low bore axis is a meme that should have died long ago.
        >consistent trigger since a hammer doesn't need to be cocked
        What the hell does the hammer having to be cocked have to do with it??? Consistency in a pistol is mostly a matter of friction between firing group surfaces (e.g. sear, striker, action bar). Ignition system has jack to do with it. Go on, try and tell me how a decent 1911 has an inconsistent trigger, or a Beretta 92 feels different on each DA or SA pull, or a well worn in Smith & Wesson 19-3. Stacking in the latter, yeah, but inconsistent? Anything but.
        >For a revolver bore axis isn't a big issue
        I really wanna know how bore axis magically doesn't affect revolvers which are far more offensive of such a concept than any DA/SA semi-auto I can think of (barring Rhinos or Meatballs). And most revolvers are DA/SA, not DAO and not SAO unless you're cowboy larping. Also not sure how either has anything to do with bore axis anyway.
        >One od the best systems I think are DA/SA strikers. Taurus and I think Canik did some like this.
        Bruh, stop posting. For one, nobody wants to even know anything about Taurus, especially their autos. Secondly, Canik? Really? Give credit where credit is due since this is based on the Walther P99 which is a true DA/SA striker. Admittedly I too wish there was more of these.
        But goodness me anon, I am pretty sure the earliest Canik copies of the P99 for some reason incorporated the decocker but were effectively SAO anyway, so they just left you with a dead trigger.
        >second strike ability
        Let's be real, if your gun goes click and you don't immediately tap-rack-bang you're doing it wrong. Nifty idea as it may be it's a better idea to just move on.
        >but damn is that bore axis high.
        Ugh, seriously go out and actually shoot some guns some time and stop harping on this stupid idea that bore axis is worth losing any sleep over.

        https://i.imgur.com/ldbZFRo.jpg

        >lower bore axis
        You've actually got me more interested in the idea now. The whole thing behind the rhino was that a lower bore axis helps with muzzle flip and felt recoil, which are very important with hotter revolver loads. I haven't shot one, but I've heard the trigger is pretty meh and very complicated aside, though there is something to the idea.

        Definitely got me thinking now. Could make a lower bore revolver and make it actually striker fired if possible. Make a cool cyberpunk looking race gun version and a snub nose and a snubnose for conceal carry and self defense marketed towards people that aren't really into guns. Since you can put almost all the working components into the grip in a revolver, it could be really small and light too. Like an S&W airweight, but actually fun to shoot.

        Don't listen to him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ugh, seriously
          Gb2r you effeminate gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Let's be real, if your gun goes click and you don't immediately tap-rack-bang, you're doing it wrong. Nifty idea as it may be it's a better idea to just move on.

          Not him but I disagree with this statement. Close distances as most handgun defensive scenarios tend to occur, you'll most likely be pulling that trigger as fast as you can. Unless you can't get sub .20 splits and you're a slow shooter despite basically trying to do a mag dump... chances are you won't register the failure before you pull the trigger a second time, which means that you'll accidentally use the second strike capability which could theoretically get you back into the fight in 0.15 of a second as opposed to the multiple seconds of trying to tap rack and back to bang. I would agree that it's not wise to stay there and continue to try to use the second strike until a round hopefully pops off. I'll also default to tap rack and bang when I register the failure, but the second strike capability is more of a bonus. That, and it's also helpful in other scenarios. I was shooting in the desert during a small sandstorm and other shooters with Glocks who were starting to have issues had to always default to tap rack bang while I could get away with pulling the trigger a few times (sand was in everyone's barrel and chambers magazines and ammo). Lastly, this is kind of a stretch but in a survival scenario with shitty ammo or little resources you can't just discount every round as bad and tap rack it into the grass. You might have to try to make every round go off for conservations sake. It's a nifty little feature and I'd rather have it than not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Close distances as most handgun defensive scenarios tend to occur, you'll most likely be pulling that trigger as fast as you can.
            Hmm, excellent point. I didn't think about that.

            I have used it all of once at the range cause I got a light strike/hard primer. Made me giddy too. Like that time I used my forward assist.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna add to this with some serious learned autism. There's a pro and a con to each system here when it comes to gunfights.

            Hammer:
            >you get second strike, which is critical in an entangled fight or any situation where you may only have one hand, so plus
            >but there's the tactic of putting your thumb behind the slide to press the gun into battery in an entangled fight, where the only shot you can take is one pressed up against your attacker, with a hammer you have to be very mindful not to block the hammer while your thumb is pressing the slide forward, it's actually difficult to do and you're only blocking it with part of your thumb so the gun may actuate and hurt your thumb a bit, so I'm gonna call it a minus just because under stress you're probably going to block the hammer trying it

            Striker:
            >you're trigger goes dead, if you only have one hand you're fucked, so con, it's also a con in general because you get a second strike and indication that your round may be dead with the heavier DA pull telling you something is up
            >nice flat back of the gun, no chance of not being able to press it into battery with your thumb (which will cause the need for a TRB, but you got one shot off which could be all you needed to live). But with this you lose the ability to thumb the back of the hammer to safely holster your gun, so your gun should have a safety which almost no striker guns have. But that's a FEATURE. Remember that having your gun stripped of all nice things is a FEATURE. Honestly hammer fires are the only handguns that should ever be safetyless.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Remember that having your gun stripped of all nice things is a FEATURE.
              I dislike safeties for concealed carry. I think they are one hundred percent, completely unneeded on a gun that is solely used for concealed carry and range use.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he can't leg tuck while driving

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like you drink cum from moron dicks. End your life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but you couldn't help yourself from thinking about moron dicks, could you Amerimutt?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anons right, they do taste the best.
              >t.yuropoor

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up moron I just stated what _I_ want in a handgun. I like low bore axis, it looks better, the gun is smaller, and it's comfy. Strikers just have their drawbacks and that's a known thing. The strike is lighter and they're typically put on cheap guns that don't bother engineering a second strike capability. I don't want a dead trigger, I want a heavy DA trigger that let's me know the round is bad, but if it happens to fire the round then good, I got back in the fight sooner and didn't need to think and perform a whole two handed operation to do it. You don't understand how real gunfights go down.

          Basically all I want is a DA only hammer fire that doesn't have a shitty long hard trigger pull, or a hammerless DA/SA that can always be carried cocked & locked without a stupid hammer always being back, or a striker that operates like a DA/SA that can be carried cocked & locked would be ideal. You can deny that shit, it would be awesome.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't understand how real gunfights go down.
            Whoa man sorry, didn't know there was a real operator here, my apologies.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a handlet and the trigger reach on DA is kind of a deal breaker.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this supposed to be cute? Look at the face. It's a monkeys face on a woman's body. You should have blacked out the face

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty colonizable in my expert opinion.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both because only chuckle heads argue about unimportant things.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like my beretta but tbh it’s really personal preference

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not both?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >takes glock mags
      >glock 43x mags

      Lmao, not even the common ones. Trash, but not surprising that Sootch is shilling garbage guns.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hammer because I have the soul of a boomer despite being in my 20s

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