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are britishers secret KGB agents? what the fuck is this!? fucking anti tank gun? Do they understand that it's not 1940's? These things will kill more ukrainians than russians

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing how Russians still push forward with little to no recon, why would this be a bad thing?

    How many does your country still use little vatmoron?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bruh the MT-12 has been used by both sides in 2015.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can probably shoot trough a dozen BTRs and BMP-s with those lmao

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't realize the Russians had suddenly developed an immunity to APFDS rounds.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hello John from Ohio Oblast, yes British are Russian, very bad

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its what they have right? Its only a problem when the invading force is using such weaponry, not the defenders.
    >muh african republics
    They are fake proxies created for the purpose of destabilization. They aren't defenders in any right.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    seems to be working fine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KINO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/yRsv8fq.jpg

      KINO

      Why don't they just mount them onto MT-LBs and make them into make shift tank destroyer/gun carriage/assault gun? It worked decently enough back in the days. Stationary direct fire AT guns are basically death traps these days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just the gun has a much smaller silhouette, can be concealed in shrubs easier, an MTLB doesnt provide enough armor to make it worth being stuck in the crew compartment, with a static gun you can have the crew hiding near the gun to man it if armor is approaching

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But with all the artillery spams from Russia. You simply can't afford to not stay mobile. And it's meant to be a gun carriage, not a tank. So MT-LB's armor isn't really nearly as important as it's mobility.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good point, but Ukraine is largely plains. you can see till the end of the earth's curve in most places, provided buildings aren't in the war. why not post up some tank snipers? but i definitely see their flaws for urban fightings and most modern pitched battles

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all HATO lies

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The MT-12 is already being used in Ukraine with a specific "Don't engage tanks with it, retard" doctrine

    It works just fine since 90% of the shit Russia put on the roads AREN'T tanks.
    I am curious at this point as to whether it can kill T-62s, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It can absolutely kill a T-62 from the front. It could kill most tanks from the side.
      Remember - it's a 100mm gun, the same on the T-55. It can still use the same SABOT and HEAT rounds available to the T-55. Some of the later cold war designs had penetration values between 300 and 500mm of pen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also I do find it weird that people think it's just a slab of metal/material that's somehow impenetrable if you don't get all the way through.
        Even non penetrating hits can mission kill, or cause spalling to fuck up internals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am curious at this point as to whether it can kill T-62s, though.
      It ABSOLUTELY could. The T-62 doesn't even have composite armor with the exception some 1980s bolt-on upgrades in a few particularly vulnerable spots.
      Hit it anywhere else where the armor is just WWII-spec solid steel and you'll punch clean through with any decent anti-tank weapon.
      It doesn't stand a chance against the 100mm APFSDS and HEAT rounds from an MT-12 even from like 2KM away.

      You could kill one with an 84mm Charlie-G firing original ammo from the 1940s. You could kill one with an RPG-7.
      If the armor penetration tables on wikipedia are even remotely accurate, you could punch through the front glacis with a German 88mm PaK43 from over a kilometer away.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hook it up to a camera in a tree line
    >point at road
    >remotely fire from miles away
    >if enemy sees it, "oh no, we lost a piece of rusting equipment from World War Fucking Two"
    >if enemy doesn't see it, they get fucked on with a gun from World War Fucking Two
    It's like a roadside EFP mine that can be used a couple hundred yards away.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how is it remotely triggered?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You fuckin yank on a long ass cable from behind cover when your spotter says "go"

        There were some great vids of the guys in 2014 using one of these to shoot at the airport iirc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yanking on a cable that's a couple hundred yards long?

          color me skeptical

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok but how about making it self propelled and remote controlled too

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1940
    Seeing how Amerimutt plastic wunderwaffen are failing Id say thats a more viable solution than spending billions on muttmoron junk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      excuse me calm down with the racial language

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this post was made with an extra side of seethe.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MT-12K, or 2A29K Kastet, is an upgraded version, compatible with 9M117 anti-tank guided missiles. Missiles are launched in the same manner as ordinary munitions. These anti-tank missiles were designed to improve accuracy of the gun at long ranges. Special kit needs to be mounted on the gun in order to use these missiles. These missiles have laser guidance. Once the missile is launched the gunner only has to keep the crosshair on the target, and the missiles steers itself automatically. Maximum range of fire is 4 km. Missile penetrates 550-660 mm of steel armor behind explosive reactive armor. Also range has no effect on penetration capabilities of the missile. The MT-12K was introduced in 1981.

    It can fire missiles if need be, so there is nothing wrong with it. Also why wouldn't they train Ukrainians on weapons they have? The UK is also training them on L116's (I think).

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    might as well send them museum PIATs
    of course the government goes to shit once Boris leaves, everyone else there is a crypto pinko

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those guns are in widespread use there on both sides

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