>Can't tell their nationality by looking
The signage is Chinese and that's a Chinese fire-fighting box.
Old slant eye can't help themselves can they? Wherever they are, they must also backstab.. >I wouldn't mind being able to buy a suicide drone on Aliexpress, thoughever
If the text wasn't as low res in that image I'd go with that too but with the blurriness my own personal algorithm is to go by >Stroke density
Chinese>Korean>Japanese if it isn't kanji heavy >Macroshape
Korean has a lot of straight vertical and horizontal lines, seemingly clear nesting of characters (relative to Chinese text)
Japanese even with kanji tends to have much lower stroke density than both Korean and both traditional and simplified Chinese, also the strokes are very "hand cursive" looking on print text
>I always identified Korean by it's generous use of ovals and circles.
Those are more or less letters, Korean is roughly an alphabet drawn clockwise around the character.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul
If the text wasn't as low res in that image I'd go with that too but with the blurriness my own personal algorithm is to go by >Stroke density
Chinese>Korean>Japanese if it isn't kanji heavy >Macroshape
Korean has a lot of straight vertical and horizontal lines, seemingly clear nesting of characters (relative to Chinese text)
Japanese even with kanji tends to have much lower stroke density than both Korean and both traditional and simplified Chinese, also the strokes are very "hand cursive" looking on print text
>If the text wasn't as low res in that image I'd go with that too but with the blurriness my own personal algorithm is to go by
I just lived in China for long enough to know Chinese fire safety equipment when I see it.
That floor gives me flashbacks to the parking garage in my building too, it squeals under tires.
>I just lived in China for long enough to know Chinese fire safety equipment when I see it.
You got any good stories about elevators, escalators and "safety" in China anon?
Pretty sure the fat fuck on the far right excludes North Korea as well, not to mention the DPRK has real factories and would not use a old basement.
>You got any good stories about elevators, escalators and "safety" in China anon?
Not really, that stuff is much rarer than you think. It's a very big country, a 1 in a million freak accident happens to 1500 people.
I can tell you that until a decade or so ago, buildings with elevators were considered undesirable because everybody expected that they'd be broken all the time and just cost money and never be available.
These days they work better and are getting replaced and local governments are funding installation of elevators on old six story commie blocks that don't have them.
Because party chiefs are judged by the GDP growth in their provinces/cities, there's a real push to fund big projects even if it's gold-plating stuff that doesn't need it. So you have all these 6* tourist parks and shiny subway stations and it's all kept sparkling clean and generally pretty well maintained. It's completely different to Eastern Europe where stuff just gets run down.
The party cracked down on that because the funds to make everything shiny and new were being diverted from other stuff that needed it way more.
I've been to Kangbashi, the most famous "ghost city" and it was pretty nice, big infrastructure, wide open streets that had quite light traffic. It's not empty but it was very under-occupied, about 15% occupancy when I was there, I think it's about 40% now. The local government made it the prefecture capital and moved its offices there and relocated the best schools. People followed.
It replaced a much more crowded and old and run-down farming city near by called Dongsheng.
Of course those development projects had lots of apartments pre-sold/given to officials who could then benefit from the rise in real-estate demand...eventually. That's half the point of the exercise naturally.
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Anonymous
>six storey >no elevators
Put fat people on the top floor so they lose weight.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Put fat people on the top floor so they lose weight.
It did count towards daily exercise for me.
I didn't have a water filter either so going out every second day to buy 5l jugs of drinking water from the store and carrying them up the stairs was exercise too and I'd use them for bicep curls as I was carrying them.
3 weeks ago
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>I've been to Kangbashi, the most famous "ghost city" and it was pretty nice, big infrastructure, wide open streets that had quite light traffic. It's not empty but it was very under-occupied, about 15% occupancy when I was there, I think it's about 40% now.
Taiwan does the same shit. They built a condo building directly in front of mine, blocking most of my ocean view, and the whole place was pre-sold before they even started digging a hole in the ground for the foundation.
I left five years after it had been completed. Six units had been occupied for the previous four years, with two more getting occupied in literally the last few weeks before I left. That's out of somewhere around 100 units.
nta but spending two months in China taught me that stereotypes like the Chinese being terrible drivers are real, and that the Chinese prefer to park their cars on stairways and sidewalks rather than curbs.
>not to mention the DPRK has real factories and would not use a old basement
I sort of think this is a school project to recreate it or something (without the explosive I assume).
China has a tonne of competitive STEM tournaments in their high school system, especially in the private schools, along with lots of other programs that mostly exist to pad university admissions so every rich student can say they have several competition medals, music prizes and extra-curricular community service and stuff like that.
Something like that, it is clearly some sort of hobby project and not a production facility. Why would it be? Iran has plenty of arms factories, if they needed skilled labor or more production lines they would import Koreans or outsource to the DPRK itself which they already do with much more advanced weapons.
They would not hire a few confused looking chinese teenagers in baking aprons who can't get their fat asses off their phones long enough to work the damn angle grinder.
>using coof masks
I think that's because of angle grinding the welds.
Chinese wear masks whenever they're sick but they're not in mandatory or even recommended mask use these days.
You don't even see that many on planes.
>Korean text looks blocky which excludes North Korea.
Both Koreas use the same alphabet. Hangul, a phonetic alphabet (just like Semitic and Indo-European) with no relation to Chinese (Hanzi/Kanji which is a logographic alphabet.
>What are the odds that the fire extinguisher in these things actually works?
There are inspectors that check on them but...
Whenever there's a big fire that kills a restaurant full of people or something, you hear about the managers and the inspectors all getting arrested and it turns out they were paid off to skip inspections.
I think in general, the extinguisher is going to work ok within it's rated lifetime but I wouldn't put it past any business (and private schools are businesses) to delay replacing them at end-of-life or to fudge inspections in the mean time to avoid replacing any that don't measure 100% of their required PSI or whatever.
Chinese have a saying; an honest businessman can afford to eat plain rice with onions sauce.
Someone enjoys getting blown up by Israel. Also really? You can't do anything better than the stupid fucking useless Iranian drone with the help of china?
>Chinese design (stolen from US) >Iranian quality >Russian budget (zero, it went somewhere else)
I think the hardest part is to have enough budget left after it gets stolen
What's the optimal combination of those three? >Russian design >Iranian quality >Chinese budget
Maybe?
>Chinese budget
Woudn't the best combo be Russian design, Iranian management and Korean budget/workers? Why use Chinese workers when you have access to Koreans who are cheaper not to mention far superior from a security viewpoint?
>Why use Chinese workers when you have access to Koreans
Because that wasn't one of the three anon listed and I'm trying to optimise their combination of nations.
But it just doesn't make sense, it is almost certian Iran developed the Shahed jointly with the DPRK, why not use the guys who probably designed it whom you already have joint production agreements with?
>But it just doesn't make sense
The original anon wasn't trying to make sense, they were just making a joke about the worst possible combination of factors in a weapons project.
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Original anon, here. If I were making a joke about the worst possible combination of factors in a weapons project it would have gone: >Indian design >Indian budget >Indian quality
there's been reports of russian students slaving away on drone farms >source
some german article I read the other day, too lazy to dig it up and translate
russians do this from time to time, they are desperate to show that china is helping them and totally not fucking them in the ass and taking their cheap oil and gas
>According to Spiegel, Russia is negotiating with the Chinese company Xi'an Bingo Intelligent Aviation Technology on the supply of ZT-180 kamikaze drones, the design of which is similar to the Iranian Shahed-136, but they carry more explosives up to 35-50 kg. >It is also possible that the production of these drones can be deployed in Russia, with a total production volume of about a 100 per month. Previously, there was also information about negotiations regarding the possible supply of spare parts for Su-27 fighters by the Chinese.
>russia gets actual military aid from china for once >Its fucking shahed clones that became irrelevant half a year ago
they could have sent some actual worthwhile shit but instead china is now straining its relations with the west over some shitty iranian drones
If China actually wanted they'd have sent their surplus ZTZ96's and Type 88's, HJ-12's and their old TOR-M1's long ago.
Like the US, China wants Russia to bleed to they can take over them smoothly.
"Mr Ching Chong, if you give us $6 Gorrilion, will will send you one of the magic yankee missiles to research."
China hands over all of their foreign currency reserves and half of the politburos private fortune to acquire the mighty HIMARS missile that has brought Stronk Russia low. They immediately bring it to their most sensitive RnD department and crowd around the missile, marvelling at the power of last gen Western Tech. They begin to disassembled the missile to learn its secrets...and accidently trigger multiple boobytraps causing it to detonate and take out the entire wing.
Ukies have a nice sensible chuckle as they kept the actual software that makes GMLRS work to themselves.
Velly implessive Amellican tech flom the 90s. The west is doomed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The thing is that the US doesn't have a newer ATGMs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They dont need to, the HJ-12 is entirely inferior.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You haven't proven that new chink tanks can actually defeat 30 yr old western ATGMs.
Western tanks meanwhile are getting upgrade kits and overhauls thanks to the great 2022 Chimpout. AbramsX was even unveiled.
Literal slacktivists anon, the moment China tightened the grip slightly in HK all the leadership there fled to Europe. They are a bunch of spineless cucks who'll never revolt more than breaking shit on the streets.
>Literal slacktivists >Endless riots that ruined China's world image. >Business in Hong Kong still hasn't recovered since any enterprise that didn't want the CCP breathing down their neck moved overseas or just closed shop.
Those kids could be gunned down Tiananmen style and you would still call them pussies. How would someone who hasn't stood for something he believes in his life recognize bravery? Bravery is a foreign concept to the communist because every sacrifice is forced by the state.
They're pushing both hate against Biden and Trump at the same time. On one hand they'll drag Biden with Hunter and on the other hand they'll claim that Trump is as anti-Ukraine as Vivec. Usual Russian divide and conquer shit.
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They're pushing both hate against Biden and Trump at the same time. On one hand they'll drag Biden with Hunter and on the other hand they'll claim that Trump is as anti-Ukraine as Vivec. Usual Russian divide and conquer shit.
Maybe, just maybe, people here are just retarded deluded people who think alphabet agencies think this shithole is of any importance on the internet sphere.
Honestly this "shill vs shill" accusation from both sides killed this board.
>russia invading ukraine is just japan invading manchuria all over again. >mfw i am realizing we're already in WWIII
let's hope we can keep the nukes from flying this time
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
Then I can't wait for Battle of Midway 2.0, with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
And the reaction of the US government to keep the loss of their carriers hidden from the public, acting like never happened and those ships are still sailing out there (the Japs really did that after Midway).
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
If they those Islands stay afloat long enough for that to happen.
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
Then I can't wait for Battle of Midway 2.0, with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
>with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
Anon, the US was the veteran Navy in WW2 Pacific theatre, they were already doing missions in the Pacific and North Africa long before they forced the Japanese to open up. In fact, the US navy was the whole reason they got forced to begin with.
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
Then I can't wait for Battle of Midway 2.0, with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
Let's be honest. It'll probably end like the last 2 times.
>They were kinda right, weren't they?
If they were right, they wouldn't have lost. >the US destroyed itself.
I wouldn't be a fucking neet if I had a penny everytime someone predicted the collapse of the US in this century alone.
Except that the USN had no experience with carrier ops back then, IJN did and that's why after Pearl Harbor latter thought they finished off the USN since they wiped out most of the US capital ships and also why they confident on the success for the attack on Midway. But the US had cracked the Japanese intelligence codes and set up an ambush for the "Kido Butai".
>Except that the USN had no experience with carrier ops back then
Turns out if you have experience in commanding ships it could also translate to Aircraft carriers. Also, Aircraft carriers have been in service in the USN for years before pearl harbor. > IJN did
The IJN didn't have experience in Carrier vs Carrier combat until Midway. Neither did the US. >But the US had cracked the Japanese intelligence codes
The USN had veteran code breakers from Europe and elsewhere
The funny thing is, if WW3 were to occur, the Axis of Russia, China and DPRK wouldn't be able to nuke back, because the only one with proven ICBM capabilities is North Korea ad they AT BEST have about a dozen or so nukes.
An all out World War on the scale your worried about would be like the Seven Hour War from Half Life. The West would just completely and utterly obliterate the East that it's not even funny.
Russia making more fakes to try to force China in its corner.
I wonder if Xi would double down on the electronics and weapons embargo or break down and give Putin everything he wants for free?
Why use high tech materials, tools, robotics and so on if all that investment into a high-end luxury weapon will be wasted on a Shahed finished with an angle grinder. Cheap drone swarms are the future of warfare. It should be a legal right for every american citizen to be able to install a tower of these things in their houses for self-defense and self-offense purposes.
BTW here’s the easy rune distinguishing guide:
If it’s dense and blocky-looking it’s Chinese
If it has lots of ovals / circle-looking crap it’s Korean.
If it’s less-dense blocks or no blocks with lots of smaller squiggles interspersed it’s Japanese.
Why isn't Poland or the UK or Canada or whoever turning out Shahed clones by the hundred to introduce an element of strategic deterrence? Seems like they'd be far more able to mass produce drones than Russia or Iran.
In that case Anon, we are all subhuman because we all work for the government in one way or another.
Anytime you buy something, part of that money goes to the government. The internet your using. The phone or computer you're reading this on. The food you eat and booze you drink.
Every second you spend in work, you are helping the government, no matter what job, because you still pay taxes. You are still contributing to the economy and the society that it is built upon.
The only way for you to stop being subhuman is to unironically kys. They'll be a bunch of various taxes and costs to pay to the government afterwards of course, but after that, your contributions to the government will be over.
This factory honestly looks like a criminal operation. Russian mob is closely linked to Putin and his circle of oligarchs; mob contacts hooked them up with a Chinese crime ring / group / Party member etc to produce these things under the table. Evade Chinese export laws and gives the CCP and/or legal oligarchs deniability. I wonder how much they’re willing to produce. There might be a very loud winter in Ukraine coming.
it's a sunflower-200. note that i wrote "2k" in the filename because i'm retarded.
https://i.imgur.com/VYTmp7G.jpg
if any of these are recovered in ukraine, i'm gonna put sunflower seeds onboard and return them to sender
i've been keeping track of this for a while. PrepHole is indexed by search engines and i don't want to alert ziggergram to my presence in certain closed, very smol uav r&d groups with info that leads back to them, so best i can do is link patrick senft's twitter thread[1,2] and say: this is more of a domestic vanity / propaganda project for the changs than an upcoming arms collaboration.
right now, the primary impediment to scaling shahed production within the russian federation is actually just a stupid side effect of the wagner mutiny: the factory workers can be sent wherever – and if the best place is bumfuck, siberia, then so be it – but the powers that be want the brains of the operation on a shorter leash. iranian miltech developers are currently the only client occupants of the wagner PMC corporate center in st. petersburg. but now they need to be moved out, without any suitable new venue having been selected.
My best guess is some enterprising Chinese factory owner starting building 'hobbyist drones' without military hardware in them, sending them to Russia where they add the missing hardware.
wow even more reasons for sanctions how fun
>Geran-2s
good afternoon sir
Can't tell their nationality by looking. Chinese? Khazak? Thai? Filipino?
If you look at the very blurry text on the column on the left it looks vaguely Chinese. Korean text looks blocky which excludes North Korea.
Old slant eye can't help themselves can they? Wherever they are, they must also backstab..
>I wouldn't mind being able to buy a suicide drone on Aliexpress, thoughever
Not sure why you think it's backstabbing. They paid off Joe, he didn't pay off them.
Fair enough
It's obviously just a target drone, nothing to worry about. It's not like parts of It could be sent to Russia and be converted into suicide drones :^)
if any of these are recovered in ukraine, i'm gonna put sunflower seeds onboard and return them to sender
>Korean text looks blocky
I always identified Korean by it's generous use of ovals and circles.
If the text wasn't as low res in that image I'd go with that too but with the blurriness my own personal algorithm is to go by
>Stroke density
Chinese>Korean>Japanese if it isn't kanji heavy
>Macroshape
Korean has a lot of straight vertical and horizontal lines, seemingly clear nesting of characters (relative to Chinese text)
Japanese even with kanji tends to have much lower stroke density than both Korean and both traditional and simplified Chinese, also the strokes are very "hand cursive" looking on print text
>I always identified Korean by it's generous use of ovals and circles.
Those are more or less letters, Korean is roughly an alphabet drawn clockwise around the character.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul
>If the text wasn't as low res in that image I'd go with that too but with the blurriness my own personal algorithm is to go by
I just lived in China for long enough to know Chinese fire safety equipment when I see it.
That floor gives me flashbacks to the parking garage in my building too, it squeals under tires.
>I just lived in China for long enough to know Chinese fire safety equipment when I see it.
You got any good stories about elevators, escalators and "safety" in China anon?
>fat
kek
>You got any good stories about elevators, escalators and "safety" in China anon?
Not really, that stuff is much rarer than you think. It's a very big country, a 1 in a million freak accident happens to 1500 people.
I can tell you that until a decade or so ago, buildings with elevators were considered undesirable because everybody expected that they'd be broken all the time and just cost money and never be available.
These days they work better and are getting replaced and local governments are funding installation of elevators on old six story commie blocks that don't have them.
Because party chiefs are judged by the GDP growth in their provinces/cities, there's a real push to fund big projects even if it's gold-plating stuff that doesn't need it. So you have all these 6* tourist parks and shiny subway stations and it's all kept sparkling clean and generally pretty well maintained. It's completely different to Eastern Europe where stuff just gets run down.
The party cracked down on that because the funds to make everything shiny and new were being diverted from other stuff that needed it way more.
I've been to Kangbashi, the most famous "ghost city" and it was pretty nice, big infrastructure, wide open streets that had quite light traffic. It's not empty but it was very under-occupied, about 15% occupancy when I was there, I think it's about 40% now. The local government made it the prefecture capital and moved its offices there and relocated the best schools. People followed.
It replaced a much more crowded and old and run-down farming city near by called Dongsheng.
Of course those development projects had lots of apartments pre-sold/given to officials who could then benefit from the rise in real-estate demand...eventually. That's half the point of the exercise naturally.
>six storey
>no elevators
Put fat people on the top floor so they lose weight.
>Put fat people on the top floor so they lose weight.
It did count towards daily exercise for me.
I didn't have a water filter either so going out every second day to buy 5l jugs of drinking water from the store and carrying them up the stairs was exercise too and I'd use them for bicep curls as I was carrying them.
>I've been to Kangbashi, the most famous "ghost city" and it was pretty nice, big infrastructure, wide open streets that had quite light traffic. It's not empty but it was very under-occupied, about 15% occupancy when I was there, I think it's about 40% now.
Taiwan does the same shit. They built a condo building directly in front of mine, blocking most of my ocean view, and the whole place was pre-sold before they even started digging a hole in the ground for the foundation.
I left five years after it had been completed. Six units had been occupied for the previous four years, with two more getting occupied in literally the last few weeks before I left. That's out of somewhere around 100 units.
nta but spending two months in China taught me that stereotypes like the Chinese being terrible drivers are real, and that the Chinese prefer to park their cars on stairways and sidewalks rather than curbs.
OP OP OP OPPA GANGNAM STYLE
Pretty sure the fat fuck on the far right excludes North Korea as well, not to mention the DPRK has real factories and would not use a old basement.
>not to mention the DPRK has real factories and would not use a old basement
I sort of think this is a school project to recreate it or something (without the explosive I assume).
China has a tonne of competitive STEM tournaments in their high school system, especially in the private schools, along with lots of other programs that mostly exist to pad university admissions so every rich student can say they have several competition medals, music prizes and extra-curricular community service and stuff like that.
Something like that, it is clearly some sort of hobby project and not a production facility. Why would it be? Iran has plenty of arms factories, if they needed skilled labor or more production lines they would import Koreans or outsource to the DPRK itself which they already do with much more advanced weapons.
They would not hire a few confused looking chinese teenagers in baking aprons who can't get their fat asses off their phones long enough to work the damn angle grinder.
Dunno, does it matter for Chinese admissions? I thought it was Chinese SAT that determined if you got in or not.
you must work at csi with your infinite zoom and sharpness toolkit
>Not being on a PC with 200% zoom along with image editing software to resample not just resize
Phoneposter go home
>resampling without the original photo
go back you windows user
>Resampling exists only on Windows
Go back phoneposter, you have no idea how algorithms even work.
I'd go with Chinese simply because of their "work" dress code, shit welding job, and using coof masks.
>using coof masks
I think that's because of angle grinding the welds.
Chinese wear masks whenever they're sick but they're not in mandatory or even recommended mask use these days.
You don't even see that many on planes.
>Korean text looks blocky which excludes North Korea.
Both Koreas use the same alphabet. Hangul, a phonetic alphabet (just like Semitic and Indo-European) with no relation to Chinese (Hanzi/Kanji which is a logographic alphabet.
>Can't tell their nationality by looking
The signage is Chinese and that's a Chinese fire-fighting box.
What are the odds that the fire extinguisher in these things actually works?
>What are the odds that the fire extinguisher in these things actually works?
There are inspectors that check on them but...
Whenever there's a big fire that kills a restaurant full of people or something, you hear about the managers and the inspectors all getting arrested and it turns out they were paid off to skip inspections.
I think in general, the extinguisher is going to work ok within it's rated lifetime but I wouldn't put it past any business (and private schools are businesses) to delay replacing them at end-of-life or to fudge inspections in the mean time to avoid replacing any that don't measure 100% of their required PSI or whatever.
Chinese have a saying; an honest businessman can afford to eat plain rice with onions sauce.
china having workplace safety equipment ? perhaps its not china after all...
Canadian.
Thank you, anon. People don’t like admitting that country has become a vassal state.
Bigger than I had thought plus drop a pic with timestamp
>Bigger than I had thought
Anon, they're chinese. The drone could be 4ft for all we know.
>Bigger than I had thought
Me too, but I had frankly never looked into it.
Anyone got the "shaheed production site" pics that were clearly shot in an abandoned mall with mirrors
Someone enjoys getting blown up by Israel. Also really? You can't do anything better than the stupid fucking useless Iranian drone with the help of china?
why does it look like a school project?
>Iranian design
>Russian budget
>Chinese quality
What's the optimal combination of those three?
>Russian design
>Iranian quality
>Chinese budget
Maybe?
>Russian design
>all Russian drones are either Israeli or Iranian design
maybe just don't unclude Russia
>Chinese design (stolen from US)
>Iranian quality
>Russian budget (zero, it went somewhere else)
I think the hardest part is to have enough budget left after it gets stolen
It doesn't matter. It's a no-win solution set.
>Chinese budget
Woudn't the best combo be Russian design, Iranian management and Korean budget/workers? Why use Chinese workers when you have access to Koreans who are cheaper not to mention far superior from a security viewpoint?
>Why use Chinese workers when you have access to Koreans
Because that wasn't one of the three anon listed and I'm trying to optimise their combination of nations.
But it just doesn't make sense, it is almost certian Iran developed the Shahed jointly with the DPRK, why not use the guys who probably designed it whom you already have joint production agreements with?
>But it just doesn't make sense
The original anon wasn't trying to make sense, they were just making a joke about the worst possible combination of factors in a weapons project.
Original anon, here. If I were making a joke about the worst possible combination of factors in a weapons project it would have gone:
>Indian design
>Indian budget
>Indian quality
>british chef, german police, italian politician, french labor, swiss lover
there's been reports of russian students slaving away on drone farms
>source
some german article I read the other day, too lazy to dig it up and translate
Link is at the bottom of pic rel, which breaks down what is said in the article.
It's not slavery, it's special employment operation.
The german article is likely just quoting the Russian and Kazakh papers that first reported on it.
looks like a harpy
Do you have any actual source or anything except some photo of god knows what? Why did you even bring that here? Bye.
russians do this from time to time, they are desperate to show that china is helping them and totally not fucking them in the ass and taking their cheap oil and gas
>implying chinks aren't doing both
Now that is a yanky ass looking production line.
>According to Spiegel, Russia is negotiating with the Chinese company Xi'an Bingo Intelligent Aviation Technology on the supply of ZT-180 kamikaze drones, the design of which is similar to the Iranian Shahed-136, but they carry more explosives up to 35-50 kg.
>It is also possible that the production of these drones can be deployed in Russia, with a total production volume of about a 100 per month. Previously, there was also information about negotiations regarding the possible supply of spare parts for Su-27 fighters by the Chinese.
That's not a Shahed.
Wow, I'm sure more useless shit like this is really what Russians need.
>russia gets actual military aid from china for once
>Its fucking shahed clones that became irrelevant half a year ago
they could have sent some actual worthwhile shit but instead china is now straining its relations with the west over some shitty iranian drones
If China actually wanted they'd have sent their surplus ZTZ96's and Type 88's, HJ-12's and their old TOR-M1's long ago.
Like the US, China wants Russia to bleed to they can take over them smoothly.
>sell millions of AliExpress drones to Ukraine
>sell drone parts to Russia
God bless capitalism.
>China practices good 'ol capitalism
>West: NOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S LE BAD
Free market for me and not for thee?
only if chinese factories and supply lines are fair game
I mean, idk how Ukraine will hit Chinese factories.
>I mean, idk how Ukraine will hit Chinese factories.
What do you think the biolabs were for?
"Mr Ching Chong, if you give us $6 Gorrilion, will will send you one of the magic yankee missiles to research."
China hands over all of their foreign currency reserves and half of the politburos private fortune to acquire the mighty HIMARS missile that has brought Stronk Russia low. They immediately bring it to their most sensitive RnD department and crowd around the missile, marvelling at the power of last gen Western Tech. They begin to disassembled the missile to learn its secrets...and accidently trigger multiple boobytraps causing it to detonate and take out the entire wing.
Ukies have a nice sensible chuckle as they kept the actual software that makes GMLRS work to themselves.
They already built a javelin clone and It's already in service with the PLA called the HJ-12
Velly implessive Amellican tech flom the 90s. The west is doomed.
The thing is that the US doesn't have a newer ATGMs
They dont need to, the HJ-12 is entirely inferior.
You haven't proven that new chink tanks can actually defeat 30 yr old western ATGMs.
Western tanks meanwhile are getting upgrade kits and overhauls thanks to the great 2022 Chimpout. AbramsX was even unveiled.
there are lots of supports in Hong Kong
>HK students
Literal slacktivists anon, the moment China tightened the grip slightly in HK all the leadership there fled to Europe. They are a bunch of spineless cucks who'll never revolt more than breaking shit on the streets.
>Literal slacktivists
>Endless riots that ruined China's world image.
>Business in Hong Kong still hasn't recovered since any enterprise that didn't want the CCP breathing down their neck moved overseas or just closed shop.
Those kids could be gunned down Tiananmen style and you would still call them pussies. How would someone who hasn't stood for something he believes in his life recognize bravery? Bravery is a foreign concept to the communist because every sacrifice is forced by the state.
>ITT: teenage anon discovers the "free market" does not apply to war
They're pushing both hate against Biden and Trump at the same time. On one hand they'll drag Biden with Hunter and on the other hand they'll claim that Trump is as anti-Ukraine as Vivec. Usual Russian divide and conquer shit.
Maybe, just maybe, people here are just retarded deluded people who think alphabet agencies think this shithole is of any importance on the internet sphere.
Honestly this "shill vs shill" accusation from both sides killed this board.
t. shill
it worked in 2015
That's just the 4chanacks being retards and thinking anyone who works for the government must be a glowie.
Think about how many of us here work, or did work, in law enforcement, the army or civil service. It's no wonder why we terrify them.
>russia invading ukraine is just japan invading manchuria all over again.
>mfw i am realizing we're already in WWIII
let's hope we can keep the nukes from flying this time
Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
Then I can't wait for Battle of Midway 2.0, with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
And the reaction of the US government to keep the loss of their carriers hidden from the public, acting like never happened and those ships are still sailing out there (the Japs really did that after Midway).
>Pearl harbor 2.0 is the USN bombing the shit out of some Chinese base in the South China Sea
If they those Islands stay afloat long enough for that to happen.
>with the newly built carrier fleet operated by n00bs sinking the mighty veteran US carrier fleet "Kidō Butai" reference
Anon, the US was the veteran Navy in WW2 Pacific theatre, they were already doing missions in the Pacific and North Africa long before they forced the Japanese to open up. In fact, the US navy was the whole reason they got forced to begin with.
Let's be honest. It'll probably end like the last 2 times.
They were kinda right, weren't they? Like the Soviet Union, the US destroyed itself.
>They were kinda right, weren't they?
If they were right, they wouldn't have lost.
>the US destroyed itself.
I wouldn't be a fucking neet if I had a penny everytime someone predicted the collapse of the US in this century alone.
>the US destroyed itself.
I must have missed it.
All major powers are on deathwatch. The fastest dying being France and Russia, of course.
Except that the USN had no experience with carrier ops back then, IJN did and that's why after Pearl Harbor latter thought they finished off the USN since they wiped out most of the US capital ships and also why they confident on the success for the attack on Midway. But the US had cracked the Japanese intelligence codes and set up an ambush for the "Kido Butai".
>Except that the USN had no experience with carrier ops back then
Turns out if you have experience in commanding ships it could also translate to Aircraft carriers. Also, Aircraft carriers have been in service in the USN for years before pearl harbor.
> IJN did
The IJN didn't have experience in Carrier vs Carrier combat until Midway. Neither did the US.
>But the US had cracked the Japanese intelligence codes
The USN had veteran code breakers from Europe and elsewhere
bro what? The exercises done by the usn all but proved carrier supremacy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleet_problem#Fleet_Problem_IX
No, it's container launched rockets destroying a coastal city, or naval base.
The funny thing is, if WW3 were to occur, the Axis of Russia, China and DPRK wouldn't be able to nuke back, because the only one with proven ICBM capabilities is North Korea ad they AT BEST have about a dozen or so nukes.
An all out World War on the scale your worried about would be like the Seven Hour War from Half Life. The West would just completely and utterly obliterate the East that it's not even funny.
Russia making more fakes to try to force China in its corner.
I wonder if Xi would double down on the electronics and weapons embargo or break down and give Putin everything he wants for free?
are they really finishing them manually with a fucking angle grinder?
yes. I was about to ask the same thing.
Why use high tech materials, tools, robotics and so on if all that investment into a high-end luxury weapon will be wasted on a Shahed finished with an angle grinder. Cheap drone swarms are the future of warfare. It should be a legal right for every american citizen to be able to install a tower of these things in their houses for self-defense and self-offense purposes.
I think you mean it should become mandatory that each and every American gets to live in a bitching castle with integrated CIWS on the roof.
Tuvans?
BTW here’s the easy rune distinguishing guide:
If it’s dense and blocky-looking it’s Chinese
If it has lots of ovals / circle-looking crap it’s Korean.
If it’s less-dense blocks or no blocks with lots of smaller squiggles interspersed it’s Japanese.
You dont even know what to look for
there's an amogus joke in here somewhere
When will I get my underage chunny (chink dicky) Xi, you fat, honey sucking, yelow bastard?
I'm African btw and more than willing to pay our debts to you by fixing your failing demographics.
Are we sure it’s not just a knock off?
China has stabbed Khazaria in the back for the last time.
khazaria was last around 1200 years ago? what do you mean
>Muh glorious internationally recognized Mao from 1200
who are you quoting?
Where is the lie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_China
They just hate the competition
Why isn't Poland or the UK or Canada or whoever turning out Shahed clones by the hundred to introduce an element of strategic deterrence? Seems like they'd be far more able to mass produce drones than Russia or Iran.
warmate, giez, haasta, etc. haasta being specifically marketed as a shahed-hunter, even.
Glowies are spies, newfag. Specifically the CIA.
If you work with glowies you still a subhuman
In that case Anon, we are all subhuman because we all work for the government in one way or another.
Anytime you buy something, part of that money goes to the government. The internet your using. The phone or computer you're reading this on. The food you eat and booze you drink.
Every second you spend in work, you are helping the government, no matter what job, because you still pay taxes. You are still contributing to the economy and the society that it is built upon.
The only way for you to stop being subhuman is to unironically kys. They'll be a bunch of various taxes and costs to pay to the government afterwards of course, but after that, your contributions to the government will be over.
Drones are easy. Russians must be retarded to not be making their own.
Down syndrome people?
Whoa.. so these are the savior of the white race according to 4chan huh?
how many of these could the chinks pump out if they were actually serious about it?
like the main parts are:
Fibre glass shell
motorcycle engine
raspberry pi tier controller
electronic bits
This factory honestly looks like a criminal operation. Russian mob is closely linked to Putin and his circle of oligarchs; mob contacts hooked them up with a Chinese crime ring / group / Party member etc to produce these things under the table. Evade Chinese export laws and gives the CCP and/or legal oligarchs deniability. I wonder how much they’re willing to produce. There might be a very loud winter in Ukraine coming.
it's a sunflower-200. note that i wrote "2k" in the filename because i'm retarded.
i've been keeping track of this for a while. PrepHole is indexed by search engines and i don't want to alert ziggergram to my presence in certain closed, very smol uav r&d groups with info that leads back to them, so best i can do is link patrick senft's twitter thread[1,2] and say: this is more of a domestic vanity / propaganda project for the changs than an upcoming arms collaboration.
right now, the primary impediment to scaling shahed production within the russian federation is actually just a stupid side effect of the wagner mutiny: the factory workers can be sent wherever – and if the best place is bumfuck, siberia, then so be it – but the powers that be want the brains of the operation on a shorter leash. iranian miltech developers are currently the only client occupants of the wagner PMC corporate center in st. petersburg. but now they need to be moved out, without any suitable new venue having been selected.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1700456222330179584
https://twitter.com/i/status/1700538977546109201 geolocation
Lol. Imagine needing Chinese to r&d your stuff. I’ve worked with a lot of chinamen. None have been impressive in their ability.
My best guess is some enterprising Chinese factory owner starting building 'hobbyist drones' without military hardware in them, sending them to Russia where they add the missing hardware.