Greatsword isnt a practical weap-Ack

Greatsword isnt a practical weap-Ack
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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We've been telling people this for years. It's an Area Denial weapon. Keep the blade moving and you can use all that reach and mass to keep foes away. Yes, a foe might be able to parry a greatsword but it's probably going to hurt.

    Obviously, you're not going to break a pike block with a greatsword but you can screen a flank or hold back an angry mob. We see a lot of greatswords being designated for bodyguards for just that reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unless that's literally a light saber I'm just going to jump in past the tip, take the hit on blade or body in my padded jack and run that dumb motherfricker over like a truck squishing a coyote
      >bump bump
      Put 3 or 4 guys in a row with those and I might feel like there's a problem, but this is clownshoes in terms of practical fencing 1v1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Take the hit on my padded jack
        It's over for you anon, sorry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > take the hit on blade or body in my padded jack
        Assuming the greatsword didn't just cut right though that padding the impact would knock you on your ass. Remember that Montante is about recycling inertia so that greatsword user is always wound up for a heavy hit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the impact would knock you on your ass
          I'm in motion too, bubba. I'lm not standing still like a telephone pole. Whatever force you think is going to hit me, put your calculus hat on and minus from it the speed and angle at which I'm moving when it does so, and bear in mind I'm moving at least 2x as fast as he is

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Faster swing, maybe. Faster steps? No. If anything, the Greatswordsman has the advantage since he can backstep away from your attack while bring his blade around.
            >Lighter weapon
            It's 5-7 pounds.
            >How does it hit so hard
            It's moving at ~60 mph at the tip and backed with the full strength of the swordsman's arms.
            >weighed down by armor
            Then you're in even more of a disadvantage since he only has to dodge a little and you miss the gap in his armor.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's moving at ~60 mph at the tip and backed with the full strength of the swordsman's arms.
              Should be ~70 kph.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >muh centripedal multipliers
              never heard of stuffing an attack, huh? or maybe you need HEMAgay language: :aggressive step in parrying"

              >armor.
              i'm going to tackle him and beat his stupid face in with my forehead

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well obviously you are made of tungsten and need fear no edged weapon, so why the specific hardon against greatswords?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >never heard of stuffing an attack, huh?
                It's a twohanded weapon against a single handed weapon. The twohanded weapon is more likely to win a head on clash.
                >i'm going to tackle him and beat his stupid face in with my forehead
                Helmet. Also pommel strike but helmets count as armor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >win a head on clash
                please do not post on this board again until you understand what is meant by "parry" and/or "deflect"

                >Helmet
                good, more leverage to break his neck with. the facemask rule isn't becuase it hurts your feelings

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >please do not post on this board again until you understand what is meant by "parry" and/or "deflect"
                What makes you think you can deflect a twohanded blow with a onehanded blow?
                good, more leverage to break his neck with. the facemask rule isn't becuase it hurts your feelings
                You're the one wanting to headbutt someone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What makes you think you can deflect a twohanded blow with a onehanded blow?
                experience, n00b. oh and highschool physics calculus, but I fully understand if you don't have that standard education in your LCOL area

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The physics actually favor the two handed sword. The longer grip means a longer lever and thus more torque. For a one handed sword your lever is only the distance between your thumb and wrist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >jump in past the tip
        >get cut in half by the blade
        lmao moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they have a shield u lose

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This isnt dark souls bud

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now wipe your tears first then say it again

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you mean

            if they have a shield u lose

            ?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That depends on the shield. There's a good chance the greatsword can break the shield and even if the shield holds up there's a lot of inertia behind the blade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How long do you think he can keep that full body dance up, especially after marching and fighting? I wouldn't go for it, it can be done but it's not practical. These were more of a dick waving intimidation thing.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love big ass swords.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cool giga sword
      would be a real shame if i chucked a throwing axe into your chest before you even got it out of the sheath

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Throwing axes were meant to inconvenience enemies and intimidate them, not so much actually kill them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literal trailer pagan posting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She sure knows how to sheathe big swords.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I bet she likes huge circumsized wieners

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's an ass sword?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how do i get a cute katana wielding japanese gf im so serious. Im white if that helps

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll be sure to keep this in mind the next time I prepare my kit for the Renn Faire

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's over for swordlets

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i touched your leg therefore i win
      in reality he would get a cut on his leg, continue closing the distance and cave his head in with that axe and there would be nothing the zweicel could do about it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >in reality he would get a cut on his leg, continue closing the distance and cave his head in with that axe and there would be nothing the zweicel could do about it
        based. and even losing your leg fighting doesn't mean you can't have a meaningful life after that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cute feet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In reality, he wouldn't have his back to a wall. He could just walk away as the other guy bled out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In reality, the "touch" would probably take his leg off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          While HEMA is not representative of all fighting, this is a dimension people need to keep in mind. A tap on your head in HEMA is because you hold yourself back from driving the sparring sword straight through their skull, because that'd hurt them. If you were fighting for real with real weapons: it is incredibly hard to close the distance and kill someone when you have a length of metal embedded in your brain, or just as likely, when the entire thing has been bisected lengthwise.

          Don't get hit with swords, it really sucks. If you want to kill a man try not to let him see you do it, that is generally way safe and overall less likely to get you hurt.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with HEMA sparring, is they're working under dueling rules with no armor. One touch and the fight is over. That makes reach weapons like large swords and spears inordinately effective. Armor would let someone more effectively close on long weapons. You see the reciprocal of this in things like BOTN.

      A modern analogy would be like trying the rate the effectiveness of IFVs by having unarmored trucks fight ATGMs. Of course ATGMs are going to come off as wildly effective in those circumstances.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This video
        >Blimey, isn't that dangerous?
        >Seems like they have extra armour, makes sense
        >Kinda cool
        >This is fun
        >Oh, now the announcer is calling for an ambulance...
        Cool, also mental.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sign up for combat sport
          >what do you mean i'll get hurt?
          moron bait

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >BCE
        >CE
        What was life like in the Before Chuck Era if we're now in the Sneed Era?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It just means before common era and common era.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >common era
            No, clearly it's Before Christian Era and Christian Era

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when does the CE/BCE era divide? I'm confused is this like year of the hijra dating or something? it looks pretty close to the regular calendar of BC/AD but its labeled wrong?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Common era apparently. It's when you don't want to make Christianity references I suppose.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            brave, bold, stunning

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it's some pozzed newspeak because israelites in academia got butthurt about our Western calendar being based on Christ.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BOTN/HMB have the opposite problem of HEMA.

        All of their weapons are gimped and historical anti-armor techniques are illegal, so it's just guys bashing each other in armor repeatedly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Illegal? What the police would should up if I use one? Dumbfrick

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Illegal in the BOTN/HMB ruleset dumbfrick. It's a sport. Do you think people just walk to the nearest park in armor and beat each other for fun?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Walk to park in full armour
              >Shank local bird feeding pensioner with your sword
              >Police come and shoot you as you're cutting the throat of a jogger you caught and wrestled to the ground
              >Argue in court that you were just doing No Holds Barred BOTNHMB
              >Go to medieval prison

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >medieval prison
                Imagine the smell

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The way of the sword is not a sport. Its a way of life

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The problem with HEMA sparring
          It's not a problem. HEMA is primarily the study and practice of fight manuals written by contemporary sources. If it wasn't written down, it's pure speculation. HEMA also covers armored duels but people generally don't study and train with those manuals because
          1) It's incredibly expensive to get replica sparring armor
          2) It isn't nearly as athletic and dexterous as unarmored fencing

          Also my guy, BOTN is all complete bullshit for "realism". It's the equivalent of medieval football. The players are wearing armor SIGNIFICANTLY thicker and more protective than any piece of field armor made in the medieval period, using blunted safety weapons, with the goal of dropping a player to the ground. It's a sport, a dangerous one, but a sport. BOTN is a continuation of knightly tournament games, not a recreation of actual fighting.

          >anon makes valid points
          >morons babble and say he's wrong while making the exact same points anon does
          Yeah, that's what he said with "reciprocal." Fricking illiterates.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A fair comment. It's just very difficult to train and build code around melee weapons, that's why fencing and many sports at large exist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The problem with HEMA sparring
        It's not a problem. HEMA is primarily the study and practice of fight manuals written by contemporary sources. If it wasn't written down, it's pure speculation. HEMA also covers armored duels but people generally don't study and train with those manuals because
        1) It's incredibly expensive to get replica sparring armor
        2) It isn't nearly as athletic and dexterous as unarmored fencing

        Also my guy, BOTN is all complete bullshit for "realism". It's the equivalent of medieval football. The players are wearing armor SIGNIFICANTLY thicker and more protective than any piece of field armor made in the medieval period, using blunted safety weapons, with the goal of dropping a player to the ground. It's a sport, a dangerous one, but a sport. BOTN is a continuation of knightly tournament games, not a recreation of actual fighting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Landsknecht and majority of their opponents didn't have full plate armor.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They might as well be. He's got armor under the puffed sleeves and they'd typically wear a helmet into battle. Nothing on the legs, but the legs aren't an attractive target on a foot soldier, especially one with the reach of a zweihander or halberd.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nothing on the legs, but the legs aren't an attractive target on a foot soldier, especially one with the reach of a zweihander or halberd.
            This isn't the case. Look up the burials from the battle of Visby.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >A professional army of literal walking tanks vs a gaggle of mud farmers with pitchforks
              What's this supposed to prove? The Germans could have killed them all with a thrust to the butthole if they felt like it, the Gotlanders had no capability to resist.

              >but the legs aren't an attractive target on a foot s...ACK!
              [...]

              I didn't say it can't ever happen, and I did say "especially with the reach of a zweihander or halberd." When you're the one with the frickhuge sword and the other guy has a dinky little axe, all of a sudden you have a lot more potential targets. Axe guy is never landing shit on greatsword guy's leg in that clip, so greatsword guy probably doesn't need too much on the way of leg armor.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but the legs aren't an attractive target on a foot s...ACK!

            it's over for swordlets

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not full plate but the Landsknecht could often afford partial plate which was still comprehensive protection for a frontline fighter.

          Yes, the legs were under protected but going for the legs in an outfight was risky. You give up a bit of reach since his leg is farther from your shoulder than his torso and lowering your weapon opens you up to a counter.

          The typical response to an attack to the leg is to step back and bonk your opponent on the head.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They could afford whatever the frick they wanted, war pays well. Unarmored legs was intentional, saving weight in a place you probably won't get hit means you can carry thicker armor in places where you will get hit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >war pays well
              Says who

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's cavalry armor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Behold, the true HEMA meta

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gay colours though

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >red, white and blue is gay
            Yep...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Too many red seems too flamboyant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how the frick do i beat this shit it's unfair and unsportly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reachads keep winning

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how these guys would react to a huge shield like the Romans did. Funny how we never see those in these types of videos.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn't really matter as then the person wielding the Zweihänder would wear full or half plate.
        The only viable shield in an unarmored/civil self defense situation would be the buckler/target. Of course a Zweihänder wouldn't be employed in such a situation either so the whole arguement is moot.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While You Were Partying, I Studied the Helicopter

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >si
    >hide thread

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That video makes no claims about the practicality of the greatsword. You're basically saying that a .50 BMG bolt action is practical because you can blow out engine blocks from a mile away. You can do that, it's true, but having that capability doesn't make it practical. I wouldn't carry one for self defense.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone always scream "ack" after saying wrong things around here?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty standard PrepHole lingo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Think of it as a more sudden form of "oops"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does everyone always scream "ack" after saying wrong things around he-ack!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its making a statement before getting killed, presumably by utilizing the very wrong thing you were shilling.

      Example for the OP: he was stating how greatswords are not practical, before getting killed by one. The start of the meme was war footage of various countries saying how great their various specific assets are.

      Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's the noise Trannies allegedly make just before 42%ing themselves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a /misc/ meme that lefty reditoids regurgitate because they cant meme themselfs see

      it's the noise Trannies allegedly make just before 42%ing themselves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it only started during the ukraine war. people will gaslight you and say it was always the lingo but they aren't telling the truth.
      "-ack" is a popular thing in slavic countries

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kys tourist

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >using sports with a scoring-system to determine whether a weapon is good or not
    lmao moron bait

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why would anyone say something that was used in, maybe not commonplace, but significant quantity over a period of a hundred years be anything other than effective?

    even if not universally effective in every situation, but still enough of a niche for someone to spend a lot of time and expense commissioning their weapon, training with it, and then fielding it in multiple battles

    empirically, as in based on historical evidence and popularity, greatswords were in widespread use
    but theoretically, everyone says that greatswords are impractical weapons

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was messing around in blade and sorcery and the huge cross guard made locking up and controlling weapons trivial, basically automatic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've got enough mass that you rarely end up locking up. Greatsword vs longsword is a lot like longsword vs rapier. You can just do whatever the frick you want and the other guy can't do shit about it except dance away and hope to poke at you if you misstep and lose your balance.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Ill frickin cut em in two with my bigass sword!", "ill run past the tip and stab with dagger!"

    polearms exist, like it seriously outclasses the frickoff shiny pointy sticks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >polearms exist
      That's just the thing - thee words were, in essence, polearms in and of themselves. Excepting early 16th century sources like Marozzo, most sources for bigass swords were not predicated on a play-by-play basis, where if your opponent does x, you do y (He comes at you from vom tag while you are in alber, upward stroke into ochs, etc, etc.). You had very general "rules" that dictated the generla motions you'd take, usually either thrusting or wide sweeping, based on your environment and the type of opposition (enemies with shields, one enemy, multiple enemies, in a tight alleyway, in a wide field, etc.)

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dex gays seething ITT

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay but a spear is still the greatest weapon the world ever made, until we made the gun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No the greatest weapon is a human being

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No the greatest weapon is muh dick

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean the little pickle?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >80% of all swordfighting manuals up until the 19th century are german
    >80% of everything that isn't german is italian
    >one major work on english swordsmanship and its mostly seething about continental styles instead of teaching and alternative
    Why didn't anyone else write this stuff down, bros? The printing press is a mid-15th century invention

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They likely did, but no one gave a shit after the flintlock came into the game. Everything except cavalry saber technique and the bayonet fell away when gunpowder took over the battlefield.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unlike you, people back then didn't learn fighting from books

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, but they wrote down what they learned and taught in those books, based curriculum on the materials covered in those books, and passed down the martial traditions in those books.

        That's the thing about books - they store knowledge and shit. No, I won't become a fighter pilot just by reading NATOPS, but NATOPS is of course, read by the fighter pilots.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This simply isn't true. There were fencing and sword fighting schools as well as military training all over europe. Writing stuff down in a manual is the rare exception, not the rule.
          Fighting was learned from an instructor. Books and manuals were pretty rare to begin with until the 19th century.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no, I'm not saying you got a Rand-McNally fencing textbook when you entered the Marxbruder, but the things learned in schools and guilds like the Marxbruder were written down by those who wanted to preserve the knowledge of that curriculum. This is most apparent in the Bolognese sources. Achille Marozzo's treatise, Opera Nova, alludes to his own (unnamed) master. A lot of the movements, guards, and assaults he prescribes in that book offer striking similarity to the Anonimo Bolognese - an anonymous treatise that predates Marozzo's. It is also presented similarly, goign by weapon and describing a list of plays therewith.

            It's not that you would get issued these books - it's that the guy teaching you would write his shit down in such a book. Furthermore, so say no one ever printed until the 1800's is just plain ignorant: Marozzo publicly printed his book: once in Bologna and twice in Venice. His son also reprinted it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >alludes to his own (unnamed) master
              Scratch that. Not unnamed. Got his story twisted with Leichtenauer's in my mind for some fricking reason.
              Guido Antonio di Luca was his master, and his works are also extant and consistent with the Bolognese tradition, which, you guessed it, was also written down and published by Marozzo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Many very renowned and influencial Masters like Marozzo, Fabris, Carranza, Pacheco de Narvaez wrote extensive books though, alongside famous ones who didn't sure (like Tappa of Milan). Still, famous masters wanted to remain known through such books plus their teachings.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will never be like Gatssu

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sorry
    https://www.tiktok.com/@patdamiano_/video/7358574899583143211

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >unironically linking to tiktok

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3.3kg
    Wow. What a man. Definitely not a dyel homosexual who I could just heem with a brick while he dances around with his long knife, lmao.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the person you want us to believe is an authority on this topic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Clearly a 17th century French noble reincarnated to teach swordfighting to his descendants. I mean look at him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Compare with this. Montmorency-Bouteville was the real deal though, not a teacher.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'll meet you here
          Soul.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey guise just checking in, is the spear still the king of the battlefield? It is? ok thanks.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are really great but for dueling I actually think dual welding is even better, which was actually not all that uncommon for duels if heavy armor wasn't in use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No rapiers are far better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i actually tried dual wielding as a joke during sparring with my lil cousin and wa la, a rapier with a improvised "dagger" is more effective than a rapier without a dagger. i didnt even know very much how to use an offhand weapon, and yet it was much more effective than a lonely rapier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No rapiers are far better

      A duel implies the same weaponry so it's not like it matters which weapon is chosen. In that regard, a rapier isn't better or worse than any other sword.
      Besides, you might as well fight with two rapiers...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A duel implies the same weaponry
        Depends on time and place. Pre 17th century duels were more wild.
        Legend states that when George Silver announced open invitation for duel for any rapier master one Italian master accepted it but he brought greatsword and George Silver successfuly defended his honor with short sword.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t but for dueling I actually think dual welding
      Greatsword is op, no discussion.

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