post-Cold War consolidation - it's McDonnell Douglas' categorically incompetent executives infesting the hollowed skin of Boeing since the 1990s.
it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit. naturally, once you're in one of these positions, there's almost no level of incompetence that can cause you to lose it - hence, Boeing remains shit for decades, GE is currently shitting itself and dying, executives of the US entertainment industry have somehow nearly succeeded in squandering the US' cultural victory during the last half-century, VC and hedge funds are throwing shit at the wall so incompetently that they're outperformed by random number generators, and the throughline between all of these things is our system is so woefully non-meritocratic (despite the mythology of markets preached about in econ classes) in reality that none of that incompetence is enough to unseat them from those positions.
>post-Cold War consolidation - it's McDonnell Douglas' categorically incompetent executives infesting the hollowed skin of Boeing since the 1990s. >it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit.
This is where I stopped reading. I think I got the message.
Force assets to be revalued, typically by an going out of business type auction or event where the owner sets a price where he can be forced to buy/sell his own stuff to himself.
I.e. resetting the financial house of cards this way to remove inertia, trickery, and stacked series of stock assumptions or scams from the economy.
The business world has been propped up on its own farts for a while now. It's especially noticeable in big tech now that the free money is drying up, nut for a while they were allowed to basically set their own valuations based on nothing and then get 0% interest infinity year loans based on saying that their mundane social network startup is worth hundreds of millions of dollars because they say it's worth that much. But when they start falling apart and the venture capitalists want some returns, they've got nothing to show for it except a micro-brewery in the basement of their hipster office and a dead website nobody uses. Repeat this however many times it's repeated so far and eventually the "smart" money has to actually start playing smart and asking for concrete proof of value before they break out the checks. That's gonna hurt a lot of companies that have been coasting by while deciding their own worth arbitrarily. There are rumblings of it already.
liquidation is turning illiquid assets into liquid ones.
That is turning assets that cannot be exchanged easily into assets that are easily interchangeable.
The most liquid asset is cash.
It's this case he is talking about forcing businesses to sell their assets, farmers to sell their land and for employers to lay off labour
The idea is to force re-allocation of these assets at lower cost to those who need it.
Ironically most people who use this quote don't know that it comes from the great depression, which was arguably caused by a massive economic policy failure from people like the man from whom the quote is from.
At the time the US was obsessed with maintaining the gold standard and the government and federal reserve refused to stimulate the economy believing that it would correct it's self and even greatly increased Interest rates to protect the US gold reserve, for the sake of maintaining the standard, even at the same time as the US was collapsing.
Yep. Boeing pre Douglas tried to retain its engineers anyway it could, even creating non-viable projects in lulls to keep them busy and employed. Post merger engineers were seen as replaceable and laid off in droves since they could just rehire them when they were needed. It doesn’t work that way since the people they hire will not have the specific expertise and experience the former engineers had. It wastes time getting them up to speed and when they’re done, they’re laid off again.
This is why we need get behind private space travel more and more and just give the payload launches to Elon Musk. At least his rockets actually work and dont cost the taxpayers an arm and a leg for no results. Government funded space exploration is a dead end, the prvate sector is the future.
>it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit.
t. libtard. Making a few risky decisions that led to bad financial gains does not mean that they werent worthy to be in the upper echelon. CEOs and other high exectuves can only rise by merit and talent alone. Anyone who claims muh nepoitsm is just jealous that hard working people can attain success while they in their laziness cannot.
Friendly reminder that the Department of Defense still pays Microsoft to keep updating Windows XP because the military doesn't want to switch to a new operating system..
it's probably more secure, more reliable, more flexible, and more user friendly than the slop they force people to use currently.
Modern windows has more back doors than a catholic whore-house.
Boomers blocked anyone younger than them from the field, leading to a lack of qualified engineers. The boomers themselves are shit and made their entire careers coasting off the brilliance of their fathers.
>t. Never went to college
The defense industry hands out positions to undergrads like hotcakes so long as they’re American born citizens with no foreign ties.
You're both right. There's plenty of junior engineering roles, but you're stuck kissing up to the old fucks for an indeterminate number of years until they so graciously take it up themselves to grant you the privilege of interesting work and pay greater than 3-4 time the rent of a 1br or 1/5-1/3 the price of a home in the area.
>grant you the privilege of interesting work and pay greater than 3-4 time the rent of a 1br or 1/5-1/3 the price of a home in the area.
Half right, they do keep the interesting work away from you for an indeterminate amount of time but the pay, in my experience, never really improves much even after you start getting interesting work.
I have worked for 13 years in the defense industry, 8 of those doing shitwork, and the pay has barely kept up with inflation even after two promotions. If you want to be paid well as an engineer go work anywhere else, or better yet, go into management. Admittedly, the starting pay with no experience is a little better than industry but it does not scale.
We're not, Boing has just taken a turn for the worse over the past few decades. All of our best aerospace engineers go to work for SpaceX these days, and Musk isn't interested in building ICBMs.
SpaceX sucked up all the tier 1 talent. VC funded new space all the tier 2. Boeing got stuck with the people that do the minimum for a paycheck, if that.
Aren't all the minutemen 3's from the 70's? Maintained for sure but venerable. Which is why the LGM-35 Sentinel is replacing them. They pull one out from a silo once in a while to test them. If only the Peacekeepers were still here..
The amount of commie bitching in this thread is hilarious. I sometimes forget
about how many zoomer socialists there are in any thread loosely related to ukraine
You want quality workers? You want young adults to grow up? You want young people to have kids? Pay them enough to live like adults instead of college kids or give them something interesting enough to forego higher pay elsewhere. It's that simple.
I did. I learned engineering sucks. No wonder all the talent went places like interesting startups, finance, and software. Offer a better deal if you want better results.
Writing front end javascript beats the fuck out of writing Dilbert reports and drafting excel sheets, pays better too.
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Lol lmfao this dude this webdev is impressive. You need to get another job ai WILL replace you.
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Yes webdev is dumb, but it's more interesting than the actual work junior engineers do (not what they try to sell applicants on) and pays better. You also have, shockingly enough, less retarded, stuck up, and autistic coworkers.
Northrop-Grumman has a line of boosters made from decommissioned Minuteman and Peacekeeper ICBMs called Minotaur. There's one scheduled for launch next month with an NRO payload aboard (NROL-174).
> They are built by Northrop Grumman via contract with the Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center's Space Development and Test Directorate (SMC/SD) as part of the Air Force's Rocket Systems Launch Program which converts retired Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles into space and test launch systems for U.S. government agencies.
OP here. Full transparency, I unironically work for Locksneed. We make the Tridents, which had another fully successful test launch two or three weeks ago. I just find it hilarious how much Boeing is shitting the bed recently.
Wis zis most recent achievement, fate has in a single Gauloises puff, marked the decline of le anglo and spelled a new era of wondrous je ne sais quoi and peaceful global dominance for zee big France cock hon hon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to zee historically bloody ascent of English cochons and the cruel subjugation it brought to les petites nations of the world. With the blessings of French monocrystal baguettes, plasma cigarette technology, quantum direct-current existentialism, quantum aircraft ejection seats and quantum enhanced street mimes will be the instruments with which France affirms its noble stewardship of XXIst French République world politics and offers the non-anglo world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of anglo leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral white flag.
What the fuck happened to boeing.
MBAs.
post-Cold War consolidation - it's McDonnell Douglas' categorically incompetent executives infesting the hollowed skin of Boeing since the 1990s.
it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit. naturally, once you're in one of these positions, there's almost no level of incompetence that can cause you to lose it - hence, Boeing remains shit for decades, GE is currently shitting itself and dying, executives of the US entertainment industry have somehow nearly succeeded in squandering the US' cultural victory during the last half-century, VC and hedge funds are throwing shit at the wall so incompetently that they're outperformed by random number generators, and the throughline between all of these things is our system is so woefully non-meritocratic (despite the mythology of markets preached about in econ classes) in reality that none of that incompetence is enough to unseat them from those positions.
>post-Cold War consolidation - it's McDonnell Douglas' categorically incompetent executives infesting the hollowed skin of Boeing since the 1990s.
>it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit.
This is where I stopped reading. I think I got the message.
It's because we haven't had a massive liquidation event in a long time that would have had these people jumping out of buildings.
What is meant by liquidation?
Force assets to be revalued, typically by an going out of business type auction or event where the owner sets a price where he can be forced to buy/sell his own stuff to himself.
I.e. resetting the financial house of cards this way to remove inertia, trickery, and stacked series of stock assumptions or scams from the economy.
The business world has been propped up on its own farts for a while now. It's especially noticeable in big tech now that the free money is drying up, nut for a while they were allowed to basically set their own valuations based on nothing and then get 0% interest infinity year loans based on saying that their mundane social network startup is worth hundreds of millions of dollars because they say it's worth that much. But when they start falling apart and the venture capitalists want some returns, they've got nothing to show for it except a micro-brewery in the basement of their hipster office and a dead website nobody uses. Repeat this however many times it's repeated so far and eventually the "smart" money has to actually start playing smart and asking for concrete proof of value before they break out the checks. That's gonna hurt a lot of companies that have been coasting by while deciding their own worth arbitrarily. There are rumblings of it already.
The Soviet style.
liquidation is turning illiquid assets into liquid ones.
That is turning assets that cannot be exchanged easily into assets that are easily interchangeable.
The most liquid asset is cash.
It's this case he is talking about forcing businesses to sell their assets, farmers to sell their land and for employers to lay off labour
The idea is to force re-allocation of these assets at lower cost to those who need it.
Ironically most people who use this quote don't know that it comes from the great depression, which was arguably caused by a massive economic policy failure from people like the man from whom the quote is from.
At the time the US was obsessed with maintaining the gold standard and the government and federal reserve refused to stimulate the economy believing that it would correct it's self and even greatly increased Interest rates to protect the US gold reserve, for the sake of maintaining the standard, even at the same time as the US was collapsing.
What do you think a rich banker born with a silver spoon in his mouth means when he says it?
Yep. Boeing pre Douglas tried to retain its engineers anyway it could, even creating non-viable projects in lulls to keep them busy and employed. Post merger engineers were seen as replaceable and laid off in droves since they could just rehire them when they were needed. It doesn’t work that way since the people they hire will not have the specific expertise and experience the former engineers had. It wastes time getting them up to speed and when they’re done, they’re laid off again.
>coast through on nepotism alone
Delete this, this is antisemitism.
This is why we need get behind private space travel more and more and just give the payload launches to Elon Musk. At least his rockets actually work and dont cost the taxpayers an arm and a leg for no results. Government funded space exploration is a dead end, the prvate sector is the future.
>it comes from the same era that brought us "if you're an executive, you must be more competent than anyone else, because our omniscient god of MARKET SOLUTIONS would never allow anyone to coast through capitalism on nepotism alone" bullshit.
t. libtard. Making a few risky decisions that led to bad financial gains does not mean that they werent worthy to be in the upper echelon. CEOs and other high exectuves can only rise by merit and talent alone. Anyone who claims muh nepoitsm is just jealous that hard working people can attain success while they in their laziness cannot.
9/10 bait
>t. nepobaby that thinks they had to work hard with their full ride
I’m sorry it was my first summer as an intern out of college. I didn’t know they would actually be testing it I just wanted the paid internship…
UAPs are shooting down our shit.
>Lmao who gives a shit, DOD will always buy our stuff 😀
>Be Boeing
>Decide to save money
>Mass hire Pajeets.
>things start becoming shit.
The cool thing about our ICBMs is that they were invented before color TV!
Friendly reminder that the Department of Defense still pays Microsoft to keep updating Windows XP because the military doesn't want to switch to a new operating system..
If it works it works, I loved xp
it's probably more secure, more reliable, more flexible, and more user friendly than the slop they force people to use currently.
Modern windows has more back doors than a catholic whore-house.
After seeing the later versions, i'm not surprised.
>windows telemetry
to be fair the system requirements of vista are farely steep, oh and windows 10 is utter trash
XP and 7 were the last good versions so extremely based. If I could get that XP Fed-super-LTSC I'd run it too.
Having to work on w10, I can see why. XP was comfy.
Air Force here, I think this is just a myth. We don’t use Windows XP on our networked computers.
DOD sama, I kneel.
Does the US have working nukes?
Nukes aren't real.
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
classic
Yup, I saw one re-enter after in blew off the second stage, was really fucking cool tbh.
boeing a shit
So is there any further context to this "anomaly" or are we supposed to immediately start acting like the heat death of the universe is imminent?
America has no working nukes, Thier nuclear threats are empty.
So, there's a command self blow up option?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_safety
Inpressive
Why USA is so bad at engineering?
Boomers blocked anyone younger than them from the field, leading to a lack of qualified engineers. The boomers themselves are shit and made their entire careers coasting off the brilliance of their fathers.
>t. Never went to college
The defense industry hands out positions to undergrads like hotcakes so long as they’re American born citizens with no foreign ties.
You're both right. There's plenty of junior engineering roles, but you're stuck kissing up to the old fucks for an indeterminate number of years until they so graciously take it up themselves to grant you the privilege of interesting work and pay greater than 3-4 time the rent of a 1br or 1/5-1/3 the price of a home in the area.
>grant you the privilege of interesting work and pay greater than 3-4 time the rent of a 1br or 1/5-1/3 the price of a home in the area.
Half right, they do keep the interesting work away from you for an indeterminate amount of time but the pay, in my experience, never really improves much even after you start getting interesting work.
I have worked for 13 years in the defense industry, 8 of those doing shitwork, and the pay has barely kept up with inflation even after two promotions. If you want to be paid well as an engineer go work anywhere else, or better yet, go into management. Admittedly, the starting pay with no experience is a little better than industry but it does not scale.
We're not, Boing has just taken a turn for the worse over the past few decades. All of our best aerospace engineers go to work for SpaceX these days, and Musk isn't interested in building ICBMs.
Who the fuck operates a drill like that?
Advertisers don't take pictures of actual employees anon, they're payed actors.
Stock photo models.
Large Russian/chink diaspora
SpaceX sucked up all the tier 1 talent. VC funded new space all the tier 2. Boeing got stuck with the people that do the minimum for a paycheck, if that.
They aren't bad at engineering in the slightest. Americans just focus on perfection too much because errors can be fatal.
quads of truth
Quads confirm yankees are brainlets.
Aren't all the minutemen 3's from the 70's? Maintained for sure but venerable. Which is why the LGM-35 Sentinel is replacing them. They pull one out from a silo once in a while to test them. If only the Peacekeepers were still here..
sure but now imagine how badly maintained are russia's nuclear weps
The amount of commie bitching in this thread is hilarious. I sometimes forget
about how many zoomer socialists there are in any thread loosely related to ukraine
You want quality workers? You want young adults to grow up? You want young people to have kids? Pay them enough to live like adults instead of college kids or give them something interesting enough to forego higher pay elsewhere. It's that simple.
Get a job
I did. I learned engineering sucks. No wonder all the talent went places like interesting startups, finance, and software. Offer a better deal if you want better results.
>I learned I couldn’t cut it
Boohoo nigga
Writing front end javascript beats the fuck out of writing Dilbert reports and drafting excel sheets, pays better too.
Lol lmfao this dude this webdev is impressive. You need to get another job ai WILL replace you.
Yes webdev is dumb, but it's more interesting than the actual work junior engineers do (not what they try to sell applicants on) and pays better. You also have, shockingly enough, less retarded, stuck up, and autistic coworkers.
This month is chinas military expo, thee are currently 6-8 threads all screaming America bad
The Mossad blew it up
>All you missile belong too us
LGM-35A Sentinel is coming in a few years, just hold your horses
I'm bummed we went with a silo-based system (again).
I wonder what happens to the mm3's then.
Do they get sold off as cheap rocket boosters or do they all just go into a burn pit.
Northrop-Grumman has a line of boosters made from decommissioned Minuteman and Peacekeeper ICBMs called Minotaur. There's one scheduled for launch next month with an NRO payload aboard (NROL-174).
I thought Minotaur was from ULA?
>Minotaur
>ULA
no
> They are built by Northrop Grumman via contract with the Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center's Space Development and Test Directorate (SMC/SD) as part of the Air Force's Rocket Systems Launch Program which converts retired Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles into space and test launch systems for U.S. government agencies.
lel. something something working nukes? something
>Armatard thread
So what did happened to Russia today to cause this spam?
OP here. Full transparency, I unironically work for Locksneed. We make the Tridents, which had another fully successful test launch two or three weeks ago. I just find it hilarious how much Boeing is shitting the bed recently.
Thankfully Northrop got the contract for next gen delivery system. Boeing needs a big wake up call.
BURGERBROS... LOOKS LIKE FRENCH IS THE SUPERIOR RACE AFTER ALL
we had a successful launch back in September.
Sorry france, we're still number 1.
>safe, secure, reliable
>reliable
Yeah, there were more successful MMIII launches alone than there were french missile launches total
Impressionnant.
Wis zis most recent achievement, fate has in a single Gauloises puff, marked the decline of le anglo and spelled a new era of wondrous je ne sais quoi and peaceful global dominance for zee big France cock hon hon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to zee historically bloody ascent of English cochons and the cruel subjugation it brought to les petites nations of the world. With the blessings of French monocrystal baguettes, plasma cigarette technology, quantum direct-current existentialism, quantum aircraft ejection seats and quantum enhanced street mimes will be the instruments with which France affirms its noble stewardship of XXIst French République world politics and offers the non-anglo world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of anglo leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral white flag.