Glock Posted on May 18, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Remind me again why Glocks don't have safeties but Hi-Points do?
they have no less than 3 safeties
name them, I want to know about the safety that can't be disengaged by simply pulling the trigger on a loaded gun
Man those goal posts are all over the place today.
>it's safe and won't fire
>unless you pull the trigger
>what? no of course there's no way to stop the trigger from firing a round
>well no you see it's a safety as long as you don't pull the trigger to fire the gun
>like any other gun
>except they also have an actual safety
>but seriously bro don't move the goalposts herp mcderp
I hope someone shoots AIDS into your ass.
Do you think glocks were the first pistols to not include a manual safety?
I can't see where I wrote that in the post, can you highlight it for me? Don't remember even mentioning who was first/second/third/etc., maybe highlight that for me too.
Okay, so is every gun without a manual safety useless?
you keep moving goalposts bro, you never said "manual" safety. if a gun doesn't have something that actively stops the trigger from firing a round it doesn't have a safety. can be a sear lock, trigger block, firing pin block, etc.
This is the terminology I use when I speak at length on a technical subject and I will not relent. A safety with a switch or button that must be manipulated by the user in order for the gun to fire is a manual safety. Trigger safeties, striker safeties, drop safeties, grip safeties etc. are different types of safeties that prevent the firearm from firing in other circumstances. They are safeties and they objectively exist, and we need different terminology to refer to them.
Now, answer the question, please. Are all firearms without manual safeties useless?
>Are all firearms without manual safeties useless?
nta but they're definitely gay as fuck, all the good guns like the Beretta 92 have a real safety
Either you're retarded or this is incredible bait. Glocks have 3 safeties, none of which are a traditional manual safety which would prevent the gun from firing when the trigger is deliberately pulled.
So don't pull the trigger.
so they're safeties that don't make the gun safe
My car has child locks to prevent kids from opening the door when they shouldn't. I don't need child locks because I'm a functioning adult who knows when I should and should not open the door.
your car also comes with locks on every door too, and the child locks don't disable anything on the driver's door
what a fuckin retarded analogy
This guy is retarded.
Is the only poster with a brain. You need locks to prevent usage of the gun, that's why I only use smith and wesson revolvers. The Hillary Hole is peak firearm safety. Glockfags coping and seething.
Yeah maybe don't let you and your sisters son play around with guns?
>Yeah maybe don't let you and your sisters son play around with guns?
maybe you should mind your own goddamn business and not tell me how to raise my chillins u fuckin liberal faggit
>a child comes across a gun
>has no safety because it's a glock
>child tragically fires gun killing someone nearby
by your logic cars shouldn't have child locks and we should have toddlers flying out of cars at 100mph on the freeway. you are one twisted fuckerino.
>thumb safety = gun lock
Fuck I wish it were that easy
Gun safes exist. Use one when around people who don't have impulse control, like children and OP. When around adults, you don't need a safe or a manual safety.
unless you own a Sig and then it'll just shoot you if it's in a bad mood
Maybe keep your kids away from your guns and vice versa.
Your argument is that we have to bring everything down to the level of safety required for the absolute lowest tier of person.
>your kid could shoot it
is the same logic as
>morons keep shooting each other and gay incels keep shooting up schools so we have to ban guns from everyone because two distinct groups of fucking retarded gays can't handle it
Be a responsible gun owner and learn how to not press a trigger and not leave guns out for toddlers to find. gay moron
It's not similar to a child lock, it's similar to a nuclear launch button. Your gun firing when you didn't want it to could have devastating effects. I'm not leaving the nuclear launch button open so anything can bump into it and set it off. Sometimes it's not in the holster so just that as a cover isn't enough. I want to be able to disable the button until I'm certainly ready to fire.
Not safe enough. We need a button that disables the button that disables the button to fire the gun.
we need to be able to deactivate the atoms inside the cartridges
Why the fuck are you having a conversation with yourself and why is it so deeply retarded?
the first and only safety anybody NEEDS isn't even on the gun, but not everybody has one.
too bad Glocks seem to fall into the hands of those exact retards, i.e. poorfags and cops
you may not like it, but picrel is peak performance
cope nogunz gay
You have clearly never used a beretta. There's a reason the military is replacing the M9.
L + gun failed due to sand + broken locking piece
Lol you have either never used a Beretta or only ever used a beat to shit military one that was never maintained and was used by 10 different bubba grunts to hammer in tent pegs. The reason the military is replacing the M9 is because Sig bribed them and our government are cheap fucks. The sand issue was fixed- it was the mags. The locking block is a non-issue that is grossly overstated and misunderstood. If you actually swap out your recoil spring when you are supposed to and swap the locking block at around 20k rounds, it will never be an issue.
Why are you berettafags always so fucking insufferable? Yes we get it, you totally didn't purchase 15 variants of the 92 because that was the standard pistol for the military at the time, and that they're really the most reliable pistols on the planet because your gun with 50 rounds through it hasn't malfunctioned yet. Now go cry about mvh sovl or some shit.
>Touch my cock, feel my Glock
>Touch my chedda, feel my Beretta
Berettas are just sexy.
I can take my Beretta made shotgun, Beretta made rifle, or Beretta made pistol to the range in my Beretta branded made in China clothing. I can only rock Glock pistol as a consoomer.
>inherently more accurate
>easier to shoot
Beretta's are superior to almost every other handgun.
Berettas are neat. I still EDC a G19 though.
they're cool I just wish there weren't so many fucktarded slight variations that affect holster compatibility
Now post it without crying.
They cope and call everyone else poor but they're too afraid to openly admit that they're too poor for HK. HK is what they'd like to base their whole personality around, but can't afford to, so they do it with Beretta instead. The ironic part is that they have barely shot the guns they worship and they don't understand how prone to failure they are.
>Yes we get it, you totally didn't purchase 15 variants of the 92
true, ive bought it because lethal weapon
>i.e. poorfags and cops
And all western specops with infinite money, time and choice, you gay nogun.
reddit moment for sure
Since I'm not spec ops I can do better than them in my choice of pistol instead of being limited by institutional matters such as having standardized weaponry, training, supply chains, etc across all allied nations. No wonder they choose bottom barrel glocks, they're just easy to find. They're not common because they're good, they're good because they're common. That's why you see more Honda Civics than Lambos
good lord, fuckin noguns
safety are for FAGGETS
most guns have a safety or two, Glocks don't because the inventor was a retarded fuck nogunz gay who didn't know anything about gunz
Anon he didnt invent it, he hired a lot of people to. His company just owns the patent and makes them, but Gaston didnt sit there with a slide ruler and pencil. He wanted a very minimalist hand gun, he got it
the safety is right there on the trigger.
they don't have safety levers because cops are too retarded and untrained to disengage a safety in the event of some basketball american coming at them with a rusty needle.
Because you make shit threads and can't even suck start a rifle
Glocks are always ready for action.
a safety is a cope for a nogunz gay moron who doesn't know how to safely handle, anybody who needs a safety is a retard who shouldnt touch a firearm
This is the nogunz take.
You use a manual safety is that you dont eked a lawyer trigger.
Thats just a cultural attitude. Some people get glock leg so we could argue for more safeties and some people carry an aftermarket glock trigger and are fine so you could argue for more
I put my beretta safety on just so I can twirl it around like a SAA. Can't do that with a glock or you'd have a nice day
Tell me you are an irresponsible child with out telling me you are an irresponsible child.
im perplexed by people who want 87 safeties on firearms. do you want to shoot or not? decide. don't pull the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
there is a good argument that you don't want a gun to fire if it falls or is dropped, so cover the trigger with a holster like a responsible adult.
oh boy it's the "I'm too cool to reply to anyone but check out my totally unique idea" poster
Not an argument.
jfc Glocks don't have safeties because the inventor wanted anyone dumb enough to buy one to die by their own hand through a preventable ND
Because HiPoints are unironically better than Glocks.
The most common cause of ND that I have seen on video is
>accidentally letting a finger slide into the trigger guard during a stressful moment, typically during the early part of a draw (dangerous as the gun is often muzzling the shooter's body at this stage of draw)
>a foreign object getting into the trigger guard during reholster (t-shirt, draw strings, etc)
The fact that Glocktards just say "oh but that's negligence!" to these scenarios is really shocking. As far as mistakes go, which may be uncommon as a whole, these are the common ones. These are mistakes that trained people make. Instructors make these mistakes. Police officers make these mistakes. There are countless videos of these mistakes happening. And Glock's design very specifically omits a control for these mistakes.
I like having a safety on my gun because I know I'm not infallible no matter how much I practice. I practice my draw during nightly dry fire for about 10 minutes. I go to the range twice a week. I haven't flubbed a draw yet, but I wouldn't bet my life that I would NEVER accidentally grip a little too high and end up with my index finger in the guard in a stressful life or death scenario. Nor would I think that a foreign object could NEVER get in my trigger guard during a re-holster, again potentially complicated by an active defensive scenario that has just transpired and sent adrenaline to the moon.
In aviation, safety redundancies are applauded. In the firearms world, you get called a gay for wanting a shut-off device that MAYBE delays your draw by 50 ms. Weird community we have here.
looks like the Based Department has a new CEO, welcome aboard.
Ok so I'm curious anon. Have you compared NDs to "anti-discharges?" I.e. person attempts to pull the trigger but is unable to because safety is on (not sure what term for that would be give me a break). If someone can panic and accidentally pull the trigger early while drawing the gun couldn't they just as easily, say, forget to disengage the safety and lose the precious 2 seconds that could of kept them alive because they kept the safety on? Not trying to disagree with you btw just curious.
>it's better to accidentally fire off a round into yourself or someone else
>than it is to not fire a round, realize safety is on, correct, and fire a round in less than 1 second
Good logic anon, I'm sure tons of dead people who died accidentally from gay glocktards ND'ing their shit brick guns would agree with you.
Are you a literal waterhead or what?
>pull out pistol like a retard during a panic situation and NDing is reasonable
>pulling out pistol in same panic situation and getting yourself blasted because you didn't disengage the safety is impossible
Being a waterhead would probably be an improvement for you so I'm going to assume you meant that as a compliment
Now this is an actual reasoned response. Notice how this anon actually thought before he posted. Something we don't see so often nowadays.
And this is the opposite of thinking before posting. If Glocks should be banned because they don't have manual safeties then why even suggest carrying with the safety off since that's essentially the same thing as not having the safety at all?
>Unsafe state ready to go off without warning
I think the warning is the trigger pull retard. Either you're the anon from the first post or you're in a fierce stupid contest with him and I can't tell which of you is winning.
>Have you compared NDs to "anti-discharges?" I.e. person attempts to pull the trigger but is unable to because safety is on (not sure what term for that would be give me a break). If someone can panic and accidentally pull the trigger early while drawing the gun couldn't they just as easily, say, forget to disengage the safety and lose the precious 2 seconds that could of kept them alive because they kept the safety on?
I've certainly considered this, and it has shaped the gun purchases I've made. I have some rules
>all guns that I buy and train with have manual safeties
>all manual safeties are well-designed, tactile, and positive 1911-style frame-mounted thumb safeties
This ensures I'm training the same muscle memory for all of my guns. They all operate in the same way and it is fully engrained for me to defeat the thumb safety just before / just as I acquire my early sight picture. With that said, I've never seen an "anti-discharge" or a failure to defeat a safety on video. I HAVE seen a few cases of people carrying in Condition 3 flub racking a round and dying prematurely as a result. But I've yet to see this fabled "he forgot to defeat the safety and it got him killed" scenario on video. Even if it is on video, I do think I mitigate that risk significantly by training with guns that all operate in similar ways.
he's also ignoring the fact that you can manually disengage a thumb safety at any point, even if you wanted to holster it with the safety OFF you could
with Glawks you literally don't have any options; it's just constantly in an unsafe state ready to go off and kill some random person or shoot you in the leg without warning
glocks should unironically be banned
It must suck being brain dead
I imagine it would suck, but then Glock owners probably don't know they're braindead on account of their single digit IQs. Maybe it's why they keep barfing out non-sequiturs.
I carry an LCR in my pocket every day. It has a transfer bar safety, and that's it. Like a Glock, it also has no manual safety. The primary method I employ in not shooting myself is to not fucking pull the trigger and to definitely not fingerfuck it when it's in its holster. How is this hard?
I don't know how you can read my post and think that I'm trying to make a point that it's "hard" to not have a nice day in the leg. I carry every day and I haven't done it yet. I've never pulled the trigger by accident and I've never needed any of my manual safeties yet. It's just an extra layer of precaution -- that's it. Like in the field of aviation, redundant safety mechanisms (that have negligible operational cost) should be applauded.
The LCR has a 10+ lb trigger pull by the way. Pretty different than carrying a broken-in Glock, where ~5 lbs of force with pretty minimal travel will fire the gun. Carry however you want, though. I just don't really understand the hatred of manual safeties -- it seems odd to me.
>10 lb trigger pull
weird, mine is about 7.5. like all of them.
I have irrational hatred for you and wish harm upon you for having preferences different from my own.
Get a striker control device. Problem solved and you get the best of DA/SA and striker fired designs.
What's best about striker fired designs besides being cheap? Just get a hammer fired gun at that point.
Trigger pull isn't different on the first shot.
Just cock the hammer
Or just get a glock and not have to do that.
You don't have to do that, it's automatically cocked when you rack the slide. Why would you ever downgrade to a fucking glock?
>he has no idea how a DA/SA works
Metal frame, cocked and locked. No reason to carry round chambered hammer uncocked. You can train that first trigger pull if you really want to, you GOCK loving sissy.
>he thinks every hammer fired gun is a DA/SA
>clearly talking about DA/SA
>psyke we were talking about SAO
talking about DA/SA
>retard can't follow up a conversation that started with a different retard complaining about different trigger pulls
Stay mad retard.
Typically skinnier, lighter, no hammer to poke tummy when bending over, only one trigger pull, some of the most popular handgun designs are striker fired(Glock ex) which is great for parts/holsters/etc. Nothing wrong with hammer fired but strikers are cool too
also wrong, there are hammer fired polymer frames
>no hammer to poke tummy when bending over
Internal hammers exist, also a non issue
> some of the most popular handgun designs are striker fired
Because they are cheap
You're a pedantic gay. The vast majority of DA/SA or SAO hammer fired guns are thicker, heavier, and have an external hammer instead of internal. Your last point is particularly funny and showcases how disingenuous you are. The only internal hammer fired polymer framed handguns of comparable weight and thickness to typical striker fired designs on the market currently are the cheapo Ruger ones of mediocre quality.
Would the canik TP9DA count or is that too heavy?
Looks to be a DA/SA striker to me, not hammer fired.
I just realized that mentioning the TP9DA was stupid. My apologies.
>The vast majority of DA/SA or SAO hammer fired guns are thicker, heavier, and have an external hammer instead of internal
You acting like that's all they are and you cannot find anything else easily is what's disingenuous. You can easily find hammer fired guns that are as thin and light as strikers. That's why you have to start making useless generalizations and invent bullshit issues like hammer rubbing your sissy tummy.
> Get a striker control device.
So, buy an aftermarket part to make your striker-fired gun have an external control to disable the firing mechanism. If only there were guns with that built in from the factory…you know, like a gun with an external hammer and/or a manual safety.
The striker control device doesn’t solve the flubbed draw, which is probably as common as the flubbed reholster. If you want to be snarky about “training issues”, then why argue for the SCD in the first place? The SCD by the same exact logic is an “unneeded” safety redundancy. Why does yours get a pass but the manual safety doesn’t?
What is your argument against carrying cocked and locked?
>same trigger pull every time
>protection against flubbed draw and flubbed reholster
>safety can easily be defeated during draw after clearing the body and before early sight picture acquisition
>in case of holster failure/foreign object interference inside of the holster, you don’t blow your dick off when you bend over (see:
>they're totally unnecessary and are a crutch for poorly trained retards
>t. poorly trained retard)
>Remind me again why Glocks don't have safeties but Hi-Points do?
Because Glocks are typically owned by the middle class, who understand not pulling the trigger when you don't want the firearm to discharge. Hi-Points on the other hand are typically owned by destitute untouchables, who more often than not are poorly educated and struggle with impulse control.
glock owners are OD'ing on copium ITT top kek
>glock owners are OD'ing on copium ITT top kek
I knew it didn't have a manual safety when I bought it though?
You mean "every modern pistol owner, and also every revolver owner" since none of those guns have manual safeties.
>bbububut I should be able to pull the trigger while I point it at my head! Why can't I?!
You can. Do it and do us all a favor.
>this poster drinks almond milk and drives an EV
I exclusively drink unpasteurized whole milk.
>drives an EV
I drive an 80s shitbox pickup.
You ride a city bus and cry about walkable cities and drink nothing but fresh milked cum. "oh no everyone should be responsible for my actions but me" toughen up liberal or get a new hobby, you're stupid enough to have a nice day even with a manual safety and it's only a matter of time til it happens.
This is what morons call a Glock. White people carried guns for over a hundred years without safeties and nobody saw a problem with it.
>oh but revolvers are scary fudd guns
Go back to Africa.
Anon glocks are one of the few guns morons can identify
More of a display of a moron attempting to bullshit his poverty status. Having stood inside of an evidence vault I can say without question they are popular with the """urban youths"""
>Anon glocks are one of the few guns morons can identify
No they can't, they, like OP the jigaboo, call any and every black pistol a glock.
No, these are the best.
Because Glocks are not made for morons. If you're too stupid to keep your finger off the trigger, you should die of a self inflicted gunshot wound. It should also be very slow, painful, and your family should watch it happen.
>Because Glocks are not made for morons
Glocks are made specifically for morons too dumb to operate a safety
I’ve never had a problem with the lack of a manual trigger on my glock.
that's because your fingers are too fat to fit inside the trigger guard you tub of lard
>has so little self-control that he has to have a manual safety so he doesn't shot himself
>has to have a manual safety
>has to have
Because the Austrians are literal retards and actually believed Gaston Glock when he told them that the trigger dingus is enough to make a gun safe.
I carry my Glock 19 @ IWB 6 o'clock
NEVER a round chambered
Yes, I will lose those precious fractions of a second in a SHTF situation
Meantime all my parts will remain intact, yours too if you're nearby
SHTF situation probably never comes but strapped anyway
This is what I call a win-win outcome
I respect you for being unashamed of carrying in condition 3. I think it's a perfectly reasonable way to carry and that people overstate the risk of a jam or a lengthy draw. I HAVE seen people die on video trying to rack a round in defensive scenarios, but I have seen countless more successful defensive scenarios in which the defender racked a round before engaging.
The only gun I carry appendix is my HK p30sk. It has a manual thumb safety and a decocker. The double action pull is 12 lbs with about an inch of pretravel before the wall. I carry with a round chambered, hammer down, safety on. I wouldn't want to carry aiwb with any potential energy stored in the primer-striking system and I wouldn't want to carry aiwb without a safety. If I HAD to carry a Glock in the appendix position, it'd be in condition 3.
No point in asking glockfags why there shouldn't be a manual safety on their precious pistol. Too fucking stupid and lazy to bother with one, and they honestly believe the drop safety and a digit off the trigger is enough.
It generally is, what sort of beat to shit gun do you carry that goes off on its own?
>beat to shit gun do you carry that goes off on its own?
New sigs or a Japanese type 44 pistol from ww2
Or HKfags, Waltherfags, CZfags, S&Wfags, Sigfags, Berettafags, all revolverfags, etc.
Really, the only people disagreeing are newfag retards who learned about guns suddenly in 2019 and are still scared to chamber a round.
This, I did a G conversion on my 92fs because I never carried with the safety engaged
All HKs up until the VP9 (their Glock competitor) had manual safeties and decockers. USP, P2k, and P30 all had them.
Literally popularized the frame-mounted safety-decocker with the P38 and others
CZ's most popular model ever, the 75, has a 1911-style safety and is designed to be carried cocked and locked
Offers all of their models polymer striker guns with manual safety variants
Pretty much all of Sig's hammer-fired guns are offered with manual safeties or decockers. Many of their striker guns have optional frame safeties
The 92 is literally an updated Walther P38. They've offered it with both a slide mounted safety-decocker (like the P38) and frame mounted safeties
>retards who learned about guns suddenly in 2019 and are still scared to chamber a round
You seem to be getting your history backwards. For about 30 years, Glock was one of the only brands selling semi-automatic handguns exclusively WITHOUT manual safeties. All of the brands you listed sold their most popular models with manual safeties. The Glock 19 and Glock 17 just became such large segments of the market that now all those very same brands have been copying Glock -- they're all selling polymers guns without safeties now (some still offer variants with a safety as an option). This brave new world of the no-safety semi-auto has ramped up very specifically over the last 3-4 Shot Shows since 2019ish.
hurdur glock is the only company that makes striker fired pistols hurr
They've been around since before your retarded ass was born.
DAO pistol and an auto-decocker
>All HKs up until the VP9
>ou seem to be getting your history backwards. For about 30 years, Glock was one of the only brands
Uh no retard. HK invented the polymer frame striker fired pistol with no safety.
Sorry, I forgot to mention a few low-adoption, irrelevant HK models. Why do HK fags always get enraged at Glock getting the credit? Glock popularized the polymer + no-safety segment. That's indisputable fact.
HK's primary sellers before the VP9 were the USP, P2k, and P30. Are you disputing that? That's just the reality. The VP70 had low-adoption and the P7 is a giant meme.
>a few low-adoption, irrelevant HK models
You mean the LEM models, widely regarded as the best trigger HK offered for the models that have it?
>P38 and others
Let me know which models I'm missing with this feature anon, I do not know about them and not a single one I have has a frame mounted safety/decocker and I've got a pretty good spectrum represented! Most of them in fact don't have either individual function frame mounted
Meant slide-mounted, you turbo autist tripfag. have a nice day.
I recommend proof reading before wallposting, cuts down on these kinds of replies
>Dear Diary. Today, the tripfag was, in fact, not a gay
>quoted post literally says slide-mounted like seven lines down
>No point in asking glockfags why there shouldn't be a manual safety on their precious pistol.
That's easy: because they're totally unnecessary and are a crutch for poorly trained retards so they don't shoot themselves when they inevitably mishandle their weapon. They're inferior if you know how your gun works.
>they're totally unnecessary and are a crutch for poorly trained retards
>t. poorly trained retard
such is life
real americans never bend over for anyone
>filthy caliber-mixing heathen
This will lead to destruction of both calibers and some disgusting MONGREL CALIBER shall be born.
>and some disgusting MONGREL CALIBER shall be born
>cctv of jeremy renners accident
Why do you need a safety? Just don't pull the trigger if you don't want to OP. You can't control your fingers now anon, are they possessed by demons?
what are you? a pussy?
Op is of a homosex persuasion and needs to post guns NOW.
>Muh blow my dick off.
>Muh glocks sux!
Trainpower issue. They're the honda civic of guns.
>Muh could've added a safety
Didn't need too. Superfluous bullshit is for retards. The more complex a system the greater the incidence of entropy. Or for sub-room-temp IQlets: KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
>M-muh these other guns are b-better.
Not arguing that, you're arguing that a glock has to have a safety. It doesn't. There is literally no reason to put a safety on a glock except you don't want to train more. And y'know something even WACKIER????? THEY MAKE SLIDES WITH SAFETY LEVERS ON THEM!!!!
>They're the honda civic of guns.
hondas don't cost 1.5x the better competition
Just buy a polymer80.
The goalposts have flown away, along with my final fuck. Plus if you were an PrepHole you would know civics haven't been the cheapest in a while. They're still the fucking baseline though. Why?
>Does everything it needs too.
>Not too expensive.
post stupid shit, win stupid prices
glocks are overpriced guns with bad ergos and plastic sights, they only charge more because retarded following buys this crap
>just train around it bro
>just train everything everywhere always, be perfect at all times
>if you didn't train every little thing it's all on you even if you never knew about it
>adding a safety? no, it's all about keeping things simple
oh the irony
Yeah, this is where the argument just gets infuriating
*Glocktards shoot themselves in the leg during draw, on video*
*Glocktards shoot themselves in the leg during reholster, on video*
*Glocktards experience holster failure / foreign object interference inside of the holster and shoot themselves when they bend or twist while their gun is holstered against their body, on video*
*Somebody suggests that maybe their gun should just have a manual safety, which you can train to use and protects you against all of these common patterns of NDs*
>That’s impossible! I’ll forget about that safety and it’ll get me killed! I can’t possibly train to use that thing!
It’s all so tiring
You dont want to train around not having a safety. I dont want to train around having a safety that I have to turn off.
Nobody forces you to engage it, you know. You can carry condition 0 with any gun you want.
This image along convinces me glocks are for people who have tiny hands. A Glock 19 is too short for me and uncomfortable to hold
I do get kind of nervous carrying a loaded pistol pointed right at my nuts, but the trigger pull is like 6 pounds and I have a kydex iwb holster. I guess I try not to think about it.
because hi-points lack internal safeties like a trigger dingus, half tensioned firing pin, or firing pin block. hope this helps.
glocks are gay.
that is all.
What is it about Glocks that makes people seethe so much?
Maybe the real safety was the NDs we made along the way
poor people are stupid